| Azelphur | the other interesting symptom I get, I have multiple X screens (Not xinerama/twinview) and if I move my mouse to another X screen while the freeze is going, I end up with my mouse rapidly flickering between the edges of both screens, and X stays locked up forever :p | 00:00 |
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| Sarvatt | Azelphur: yeah thats an nvidia driver problem, it might be worth trying a newer one out (via ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates) | 00:02 |
| Azelphur | cool ty, good to know it's not hardware :D | 00:02 |
| Azelphur | I will try the ppa :) | 00:02 |
| Sarvatt | that being said i did have an nvidia gpu completely die and it was showing those exact symptoms before it did | 00:03 |
| Azelphur | I wish it would just completely die if it was hardware, haha | 00:03 |
| Azelphur | I got the EVGA 25 year warranty :D | 00:03 |
| Sarvatt | but better to try newer drivers before remotely thinking that :) | 00:03 |
| Azelphur | indeed | 00:04 |
| Azelphur | although it might be my 8800GT that's dieing, it is getting quite old now. | 00:04 |
| Azelphur | (I have a GTX 570 and 8800GT in the same box, lots of monitors \o/) | 00:05 |
| bryceh | I agree it's probably driver rather than hardware, but sometimes bad memory, overheating or insufficient/inconsistent power supply can do stuff like that | 00:05 |
| bryceh | if it were -intel I'd say it was definitely a driver gpu issue, but -nvidia tends to be better on that count | 00:06 |
| bryceh | Azelphur, treat yourself to some new hw, you deserve it ;-) | 00:06 |
| Azelphur | can eliminate bad memory (tested it yesterday with memtest86) and overheating (temperature monitoring on the desktop), also insufficient power supply can go (1200W Corsair) | 00:07 |
| Azelphur | haha | 00:07 |
| bryceh | plus, if it is a driver problem, the likelihood of it getting fixed is low | 00:07 |
| Azelphur | GTX 570 is new hardware :( | 00:07 |
| bryceh | oh, you have two video cards installed? | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | yes | 00:08 |
| Rovanion | Azelphur: I'm bying one of those, like tomorrow or the day after | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | bryceh: I have a GTX 570 (2 monitors, twinview) and an 8800GT (2 monitors, twinview) | 00:08 |
| Azelphur | so 2 X screens both with twinview \o/ | 00:08 |
| bryceh | if it were me, I'd use two identical video cards, or at least two of relatively recent vintage | 00:09 |
| Azelphur | knowing my luck it's probably a bug in the driver exacerbated by my weird setup that'll never get fixed | 00:10 |
| bryceh | Azelphur, that's likely so | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | hehe :p | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | yea I wouldn't mind doing that, but GTX 570 is quite expensive for monitors that are never gonna see any gaming | 00:10 |
| Azelphur | I use the 8800GT for boring stuff like IM/Browsing, the GTX 570 gets all the action. | 00:11 |
| Rovanion | Azelphur: Are you using the free or propitary drivers? | 00:11 |
| bryceh | it seems like a configuration that would tend not to get much testing by NVIDIA | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | proprietary | 00:11 |
| Azelphur | bryceh: haha, indeed :) | 00:11 |
| bryceh | Azelphur, you might file a bug report upstream to the nvidia forums, but like I said it'd probably not get much attention | 00:12 |
| Rovanion | But on the off chance that it does. Well it doesn't hurt to report it. | 00:13 |
| Azelphur | yea, if it persists after the x-swat update I will | 00:13 |
| Sarvatt | i might be remembering wrong but I'm pretty sure I saw a gtx 570 hang fix in the 275.xx changelogs at some point | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | If there becomes a way for me to have multiple displays across multiple cards without killing performance (ie xinerama) I could justify getting another GTX 570 :P | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | nice, hopefully that'll be me :) | 00:14 |
| Azelphur | tri screen gaming in wine would be funny, hehe | 00:15 |
| Sarvatt | Azelphur: you could buy a 4-6 output ATI, but those would have to be displayport displays for that to work :P | 00:15 |
| Azelphur | yea, and the ATI drivers arn't really up for wine gaming yet | 00:16 |
| Azelphur | although from what I've heard things have been getting better since AMD took over | 00:16 |
| Sarvatt | nope fglrx is definitely still a nightmare compared to nvidia | 00:17 |
| Rovanion | Azelphur: Well that doesn't guarantee that the quality has reached a usable state yet, just that it's better than running the game on a cracker | 00:17 |
| Sarvatt | takes 4 months for a fix to make it into a released version of the drivers | 00:17 |
| Azelphur | haha | 00:18 |
| Azelphur | I'm still not sure what I'm supposed to be watching for re tri screen gaming | 00:19 |
| Azelphur | I think I need nvidia to implement randr support | 00:19 |
| Sarvatt | any games beside final fantasy XIV even support that? | 00:19 |
| Azelphur | sure they do, I actually did it via xinerama for kicks once | 00:19 |
| Azelphur | if you just trick the game into thinking it's running on one big monitor, it usually works well | 00:20 |
| Azelphur | Sarvatt: you can also do cool things with WoW like move the viewport around and use a second screen for the UI while keeping the first screen totally clear for the viewport :) | 00:23 |
| Sarvatt | Azelphur: next step http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYDbdHB548&feature=related :) | 00:28 |
| Azelphur | haha :D | 00:28 |
| Azelphur | I have 4 x 1920x1200 landscape (7680x1200), I nearly have what he has :D | 00:29 |
| bryceh | :-) | 00:29 |
| Azelphur | those are only running at 1680x1050 I think, still fun though :) | 00:30 |
| Azelphur | I've always said that if nvidia got their stuff sorted out for scaling across GPU's I'd buy another 2 monitors \o/ | 00:30 |
| Sarvatt | Azelphur: long shot but try Option "UseEvents" "false" in your xorg.conf, that did help me with my dying gpu | 00:32 |
| Azelphur | I saw something about that, doesn't it reduce performance? | 00:33 |
| Sarvatt | i have no idea to be honest | 00:33 |
| Azelphur | Hehe, easiest way to find out is to try I guess :) | 00:34 |
| Sarvatt | it worked with that for another 2 months before it really died and wouldn't even work in windows anymore | 00:34 |
| Azelphur | haha | 00:34 |
| Sarvatt | are you getting NVRM messages when it happens in dmesg too? | 00:35 |
| bryceh | Sarvatt, take it you survived the hurricane? | 00:37 |
| Sarvatt | bryceh: yeah, barely noticed it here somehow | 00:39 |
| Azelphur | Sarvatt: nope, nothing in dmesg :( | 00:43 |
| RAOF | Hm. A surprising number of people are having the mesa upgrade break their systems because they've installed multiarched nvidia drivers from somewhere. | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | oh | 09:25 |
| ricotz | RAOF, on natty? | 09:27 |
| RAOF | ricotz: Yes. | 09:27 |
| RAOF | ricotz: Incidentally, are you coming to UDS? | 09:27 |
| ricotz | the nvidia driver in edgers for natty is multiarched as the rest of the xorg stack | 09:28 |
| ricotz | RAOF, perhaps, i signed for sponsorship | 09:28 |
| * RAOF goes to see if he can +1 that anywhere | 09:28 | |
| ricotz | nice ;) | 09:29 |
| RAOF | ricotz: I guess quite a lot of people are installing _just_ nvidia-current from -edgers, or something. | 09:29 |
| RAOF | bug #833149 and bug #833841, if you're interested. | 09:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 833149 in mesa (Ubuntu) "package libglu1-mesa 7.10.2-0ubuntu2.1 [modified: usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.071000] failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833149 | 09:30 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 833841 in mesa (Ubuntu) "libgl1-mesa-glx alternative link (affects: 4) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833841 | 09:30 |
| ricotz | RAOF, yeah, i is my quess too, since 285.03 might no be available so widely | 09:30 |
| RAOF | Anyway, time for dinner here! | 09:31 |
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| bjsnider | ricotz, if they installed anything from edgers they shouldn't complain about breakage | 14:56 |
| Sarvatt | well the dri1 only drivers being dropped will save 400KB off the livecd at least | 16:33 |
| Sarvatt | libgl1-mesa-dri_7.12.0~git20110826.3bcb9a85-0ubuntu0sarvatt_i386.deb (2.9 MiB) libgl1-mesa-dri_7.12.0~git20110829.beca3316-0ubuntu0sarvatt2_i386.deb (2.5 MiB) | 16:34 |
| Sarvatt | anyone around using xorg-edgers on amd64 natty? | 17:03 |
| Sarvatt | if so, can ya try adding foreign-architecture i386 to /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch, apt-get updating and paste what happens when you try to do a apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386? | 17:06 |
| Sarvatt | should be working now but want to be sure | 17:06 |
| bjsnider | would there be an advantage to running 32-but mesa? | 17:10 |
| Sarvatt | wine, google-earth, 32 bit flash all require it on amd64 | 17:11 |
| bjsnider | i c | 17:12 |
| Sarvatt | they've been broken since i multiarched natty mesa making ia32-libs mesa stop working | 17:12 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, are you seeing any kind of issue in gnome 3 where you can't rename a file using nautilus? | 18:29 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, havent seens such problem with nautilus | 20:16 |
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