| mellhen | Hello@all: Iam using Kubuntu. But i have a audiophile specific question. Is this the right place to ask? | 19:44 |
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| FloatingGoat | holstein: hi | 20:23 |
| holstein | hey FloatingGoat | 20:45 |
| FloatingGoat | you like ulrich schnauss? | 20:45 |
| holstein | mellen: this is the place | 20:45 |
| holstein | ill be home in a bit | 20:46 |
| holstein | im on my phone right now :/ | 20:46 |
| FloatingGoat | what? | 20:57 |
| mellhen | holstein: actually iam "arguing" in the pulseaudio channel, too. It seems to be a bit strange. my "sb live! 24bit"s driver seems not be able to play s24le. http://pastebin.com/8Gfb3zWf | 21:00 |
| mellhen | holstein: when i force mplayer to use a specific format, then only 32bit, but not 24bit works. http://pastebin.com/gxBDLyPS | 21:03 |
| mellhen | holstein: This could be usefull, too: LANG=C pactl list | 21:07 |
| mellhen | http://pastebin.com/dtix6Esk | 21:07 |
| holstein | mellhen: im back :) | 21:13 |
| holstein | no more phone touchpad keyboard.. | 21:14 |
| * holstein reading | 21:14 | |
| mellhen | holstein: take your time.. ;) | 21:14 |
| holstein | mellhen: its been my experience that those cards work in 16bit | 21:14 |
| holstein | personally, i say play it in 16bit | 21:14 |
| mellhen | holstein: why is 32bit available? | 21:14 |
| holstein | to sell hardware in my opinion ;) | 21:15 |
| holstein | i mean, you get proper supported hardware, and it'll work | 21:15 |
| mellhen | but its only available in linux, not in windows.. | 21:15 |
| holstein | but, if you're not making audio... i wouldnt sweat it | 21:15 |
| holstein | you wont know the difference anyways | 21:16 |
| holstein | between 16bit and 24bit | 21:16 |
| mellhen | . | 21:16 |
| mellhen | you mean notice? | 21:16 |
| holstein | right | 21:16 |
| holstein | you wont be able to hear that | 21:16 |
| holstein | anyone who says they can more that a percentage of chance... i call BS on | 21:16 |
| mellhen | maybe you are right.. but i do have a lot of files in 24bit. it hurts to downscale that.. | 21:16 |
| holstein | nah | 21:17 |
| holstein | what hurts is messing with drivers | 21:17 |
| holstein | wasting time | 21:17 |
| holstein | keep at 24, and play em at 16 | 21:17 |
| holstein | and sleep well at night knowing that it doesnt matter :) | 21:17 |
| mellhen | ;)- | 21:17 |
| mellhen | ill try to. | 21:18 |
| mellhen | so nevertheless i will use 16bit and do not care. Why is 32bit "available". this doesnt make any sense to me. | 21:18 |
| holstein | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ | 21:18 |
| holstein | ^^ an intersting 'audio myths' workshop vid a friend turned me on to | 21:19 |
| holstein | mellhen: its likely just a button | 21:19 |
| holstein | like in JACK | 21:19 |
| holstein | we have the options for *some* hardware | 21:19 |
| holstein | that doesnt mean its supported | 21:19 |
| mellhen | i do not undestand, why this was implemented in the free(?) linux driver.. | 21:19 |
| holstein | or even supported enough to be properly 'greyed-out' in a menu | 21:19 |
| holstein | mellhen: was it? | 21:20 |
| holstein | it could just be a button in the UI | 21:20 |
| mellhen | http://pastebin.com/8Gfb3zWf | 21:20 |
| holstein | i mean, if the hardware supports 32 bit, im sure it would work | 21:20 |
| holstein | its not likely to find hardware that goes above 24 bit | 21:20 |
| mellhen | it should only support 24. but maybe its locked somehow | 21:20 |
| holstein | nah | 21:21 |
| mellhen | by windows driver i mean. | 21:21 |
| holstein | its just not well supported | 21:21 |
| mellhen | nah means no? | 21:21 |
| mellhen | iam not a native | 21:21 |
| holstein | dont lise sleep over what alsa reports | 21:21 |
| holstein | and has as options | 21:21 |
| holstein | you can go *way* deep on these driver issues, and get no where but a little smarter about one particular piece of hardware and what doesnt work about it | 21:22 |
| mellhen | ok thank you for your video. ill safe it as an driver bug in my brain :) | 21:22 |
| holstein | mellhen: yeah... nah means no | 21:22 |
| holstein | mellhen: you can get into it and file alsa bugs | 21:23 |
| holstein | thats really teh best place to do it | 21:23 |
| holstein | i find it so challenging to keep up with what needs to be reported | 21:23 |
| holstein | and also... im never sure if its just something stupid im doing | 21:23 |
| mellhen | this card is from 2005. they wont do anything i think. | 21:23 |
| holstein | SB's are pretty bad for getting audio in the computer | 21:24 |
| holstein | i steet clear of them | 21:24 |
| holstein | not bad at listening though | 21:24 |
| mellhen | i just use to hear music in stereo nothing special. i bougt it 5 years ago in ebay. so nothing special.. | 21:27 |
| holstein | yup | 21:27 |
| holstein | i got a bunch of them laying around | 21:27 |
| holstein | support is usually not bad | 21:27 |
| holstein | we use JACK here mostly though | 21:27 |
| holstein | with interfaces that have more than 2 inputs | 21:28 |
| holstein | like 8 or 16 | 21:28 |
| mellhen | yea i know. a friend of mine uses ubuntu studio to record bands and stuff.. | 21:28 |
| holstein | cool :) | 21:28 |
| holstein | mellhen: welcome to the channel | 21:28 |
| mellhen | this is why i know ubuntu studio. | 21:28 |
| mellhen | and that the most audiophile ubuntu users will be found here ;) | 21:29 |
| mellhen | holstein: could you tell me what the difference between BE and LE is in this ourtput? | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - U8 | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - S16_LE | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - S16_BE | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - S32_LE | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - S32_BE | 21:40 |
| mellhen | - FLOAT_LE | 21:40 |
| mellhen | ..and what is FLOAT_LE; is there faq where i can find information about it? | 21:40 |
| holstein | i would try someone with alsa experience | 21:41 |
| holstein | you could ask in #opensourcemusicians | 21:41 |
| holstein | also, las over in #ardour knows a lot about some things, and a little about everything | 21:41 |
| holstein | floating is something faked pretty much | 21:41 |
| holstein | from where ive seen it | 21:41 |
| holstein | like, my hardware is 24 bit | 21:42 |
| holstein | and i can record at 32bit float | 21:42 |
| holstein | which is *not* the native resolution anyways, so i dont bother | 21:42 |
| holstein | be and le are big endian and little endian AFAIK | 21:43 |
| holstein | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness | 21:43 |
| mellhen | holstein: thank you. | 21:47 |
| mellhen | holstein: i will ask the alsa-guys about this 32bit fake.. ;) have a nice day (or night) holstein! | 21:50 |
| holstein | mellhen: o/ | 21:51 |
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