[19:44] Hello@all: Iam using Kubuntu. But i have a audiophile specific question. Is this the right place to ask? [20:23] holstein: hi [20:45] hey FloatingGoat [20:45] you like ulrich schnauss? [20:45] mellen: this is the place [20:46] ill be home in a bit [20:46] im on my phone right now :/ [20:57] what? [21:00] holstein: actually iam "arguing" in the pulseaudio channel, too. It seems to be a bit strange. my "sb live! 24bit"s driver seems not be able to play s24le. http://pastebin.com/8Gfb3zWf [21:03] holstein: when i force mplayer to use a specific format, then only 32bit, but not 24bit works. http://pastebin.com/gxBDLyPS [21:07] holstein: This could be usefull, too: LANG=C pactl list [21:07] http://pastebin.com/dtix6Esk [21:13] mellhen: im back :) [21:14] no more phone touchpad keyboard.. [21:14] * holstein reading [21:14] holstein: take your time.. ;) [21:14] mellhen: its been my experience that those cards work in 16bit [21:14] personally, i say play it in 16bit [21:14] holstein: why is 32bit available? [21:15] to sell hardware in my opinion ;) [21:15] i mean, you get proper supported hardware, and it'll work [21:15] but its only available in linux, not in windows.. [21:15] but, if you're not making audio... i wouldnt sweat it [21:16] you wont know the difference anyways [21:16] between 16bit and 24bit [21:16] . [21:16] you mean notice? [21:16] right [21:16] you wont be able to hear that [21:16] anyone who says they can more that a percentage of chance... i call BS on [21:16] maybe you are right.. but i do have a lot of files in 24bit. it hurts to downscale that.. [21:17] nah [21:17] what hurts is messing with drivers [21:17] wasting time [21:17] keep at 24, and play em at 16 [21:17] and sleep well at night knowing that it doesnt matter :) [21:17] ;)- [21:18] ill try to. [21:18] so nevertheless i will use 16bit and do not care. Why is 32bit "available". this doesnt make any sense to me. [21:18] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYTlN6wjcvQ [21:19] ^^ an intersting 'audio myths' workshop vid a friend turned me on to [21:19] mellhen: its likely just a button [21:19] like in JACK [21:19] we have the options for *some* hardware [21:19] that doesnt mean its supported [21:19] i do not undestand, why this was implemented in the free(?) linux driver.. [21:19] or even supported enough to be properly 'greyed-out' in a menu [21:20] mellhen: was it? [21:20] it could just be a button in the UI [21:20] http://pastebin.com/8Gfb3zWf [21:20] i mean, if the hardware supports 32 bit, im sure it would work [21:20] its not likely to find hardware that goes above 24 bit [21:20] it should only support 24. but maybe its locked somehow [21:21] nah [21:21] by windows driver i mean. [21:21] its just not well supported [21:21] nah means no? [21:21] iam not a native [21:21] dont lise sleep over what alsa reports [21:21] and has as options [21:22] you can go *way* deep on these driver issues, and get no where but a little smarter about one particular piece of hardware and what doesnt work about it [21:22] ok thank you for your video. ill safe it as an driver bug in my brain :) [21:22] mellhen: yeah... nah means no [21:23] mellhen: you can get into it and file alsa bugs [21:23] thats really teh best place to do it [21:23] i find it so challenging to keep up with what needs to be reported [21:23] and also... im never sure if its just something stupid im doing [21:23] this card is from 2005. they wont do anything i think. [21:24] SB's are pretty bad for getting audio in the computer [21:24] i steet clear of them [21:24] not bad at listening though [21:27] i just use to hear music in stereo nothing special. i bougt it 5 years ago in ebay. so nothing special.. [21:27] yup [21:27] i got a bunch of them laying around [21:27] support is usually not bad [21:27] we use JACK here mostly though [21:28] with interfaces that have more than 2 inputs [21:28] like 8 or 16 [21:28] yea i know. a friend of mine uses ubuntu studio to record bands and stuff.. [21:28] cool :) [21:28] mellhen: welcome to the channel [21:28] this is why i know ubuntu studio. [21:29] and that the most audiophile ubuntu users will be found here ;) [21:40] holstein: could you tell me what the difference between BE and LE is in this ourtput? [21:40] - U8 [21:40] - S16_LE [21:40] - S16_BE [21:40] - S32_LE [21:40] - S32_BE [21:40] - FLOAT_LE [21:40] ..and what is FLOAT_LE; is there faq where i can find information about it? [21:41] i would try someone with alsa experience [21:41] you could ask in #opensourcemusicians [21:41] also, las over in #ardour knows a lot about some things, and a little about everything [21:41] floating is something faked pretty much [21:41] from where ive seen it [21:42] like, my hardware is 24 bit [21:42] and i can record at 32bit float [21:42] which is *not* the native resolution anyways, so i dont bother [21:43] be and le are big endian and little endian AFAIK [21:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endianness [21:47] holstein: thank you. [21:50] holstein: i will ask the alsa-guys about this 32bit fake.. ;) have a nice day (or night) holstein! [21:51] mellhen: o/