[00:42] <hylian> hello all.
[00:52] <charlie-tca> !hi | hylian
[01:08]  * hylian thanks charlie-tca, and enjoys xfce very much.. goodbye!!!
[02:02] <Sue__> I am stuck on switch over from ubuntu to Xubuntu it seem to lode properly and then it gave a message No Support for Locale: EN_Us.utf8 I need step by step Line by LIne instruction can some one walk me thru this
[02:04] <Sue__> can anyone see me ? I mean is this shwing up my typing?
[02:09] <Sue__> hello?
[04:03] <Anom01y> hi, I have Xubuntu 10.04 installed, after doing all the updates the bootsplash is now a blurry mess. is there a way to change the bootplash or restore it ?
[10:14] <redspike> hi all, is there any application like "ubuntu-tweak" for application/repository installation that works on xubuntu ?
[10:18] <xubuntusnoopy> xubuntu is veeeery fast
[12:21] <charlie-tca> !ubuntu-tweak
[12:59] <XubuntuKris> Anybody know how to get xchat to switch to another screen when opening a url in a browser, instead of bringing the browser window to my current screen?
[13:01] <charlie-tca> Window Manager Tweaks, Focus gives two options, one to switch to the opening apps window, one to bring that app to the current window.
[13:02] <charlie-tca> It won't move xchat to the browser window, but you could set it to not move the browser to the current screen
[13:02] <XubuntuKris> Thanks. That's exactly what I'm looking for.
[13:03] <redspike> charlie-tca: ubuntu-tweak dosent work in xubuntu 11.04 ?  get some error when starting it about sudo .
[13:06] <charlie-tca> I don't use ubuntu-tweak, myself
[13:06] <charlie-tca> I have no idea what it does, actually
[13:06] <charlie-tca> I set repositories in Synaptic Package Manager
[13:07] <charlie-tca> click on Settings, Repositories
[14:31] <hylian> is there a keyboard shortcut for changing desktops in xfce? (workspaces)
[14:31] <madnick> hylian: ctrl+alt+arrow key
[14:31] <Pici> hylian: Does ctrl-alt left/right not work?
[14:32] <hylian> Yes it does, thank you!
[14:33] <hylian> madnick, Pici, it works perfect! I really don't need the workspaces switcher on the top very often, so I wanted to remove it, thanks!
[14:34] <knome> hylian, you can always just scroll on the wallpaper with mouse
[14:34] <Pici> hylian: you can also use that to 'drag' windows to other desktops by pressing the shift key at the same time.
[14:34] <knome> Pici, no need to press shift in xubuntu :)
[14:34] <knome> at least iirc, that's the default (no need for shift)
[14:35] <Pici> knome: Then how else would you specify that you wanted to bring a window with you to the next desktop?
[14:35] <knome> Pici, just drag it to the edge
[14:35] <knome> (and over)
[14:35] <Pici> knome: No, I mean using ctrl+alt+shift+arrow
[14:36] <knome> Pici, ah, yes. true with the keycombo
[14:36] <knome> i thought of dragging with mouse
[14:36] <Pici> knome: sorry, thats why I said 'dragging' in quotes ;)
[14:36] <knome> np
[14:36] <hylian> I would like to say that since I decided to escape the gnome 3 / unity options a month ago, I have not been dissapointed. xfce 4 is awesome.
[15:12] <pteague_work> any ideas as to why i can't get alt+enter to work in firefox? looking in settings -> keyboard -> application shortcuts there's nothing listed for alt+enter
[15:13] <Pici> pteague_work: What is alt+enter supposed to do?
[15:14] <pteague_work> alt+enter from urlbar is supposed to open the url in a new tab... which it's done for quite a long time - http://lifehacker.com/399252/alt%252Benter-to-open-a-typed-url-in-a-new-tab
[15:18] <charlie-tca> You should not need a shortcut in keyboard for firefox, that is an application specific shortcut defined in firefox itself
[15:20] <hylian> charlie-tca, i think pteague_work wants to know how to set it up via firefox, or in firefox...
[15:21] <charlie-tca> I would say ask mozilla, or macworld, which is what the article references
[15:21] <pteague_work> charlie-tca, yes, i realize that... i wanted to point out i had already checked to see if there was some global shortcut that might be overriding it or something
[15:21] <charlie-tca> ah, got it
[15:22] <Pici> I looked in about:config here on windows, didn't see anything relevant, perhaps you'd hav better luck?
[15:22] <charlie-tca> I don't really know if that is valid in the current firefox versions.
[15:22] <charlie-tca> That article is three years old. A lot has changed in firefox since then
[15:22] <madnick> alt+enter works fine here
[15:22] <charlie-tca> madnick: firefox version?
[15:23] <madnick> It works like this: you type an URL, then press alt+enter and it opens in a new tab
[15:23] <pteague_work> i did find https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/246236 so i know others have had the issue before... although i don't know if that is due to some global shortcut overriding it or not
[15:23] <madnick> charlie-tca: 6
[15:23] <Pici> FF3 is a bit old..
[15:23] <charlie-tca> pteague_work: which version are you using?
[15:24] <pteague_work> alt+enter worked fine up until i updated to 6 i believe
[15:24] <charlie-tca> Maybe it is one of those things that only works typing the url, instead of pasting or something?
[15:24] <genii-around> http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Keyboard%20shortcuts seems to indicate that emacs shortcuts can also conflict with the ones in Firefox
[15:24] <charlie-tca> pteague_work: see above: madnick says it works in 6 for him
[15:25] <hylian> pteague_work, i am runnign xubuntu 11.04 with firefox 6, and alt enter works here... i don't know what to say
[15:25] <pteague_work> genii-around, thanks, i'll dig through that & see... although if that is the case, how do i disable gnome shortcuts in xfce? ;)
[15:26] <charlie-tca> Got to be something else interferring with it then
[15:26] <genii-around> pteague_work: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Emacs_Keybindings_%28Firefox%29 looks possibly useful in this
[15:27] <pteague_work> actually...  http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Keyboard%20shortcuts#w_navigation states alt+enter for "Open Address in New Tab" from location bar or search bar... i'm noticing it works from search bar, but not in url bar which is where i need it
[15:29] <hylian> pteague_work, i just used it though in the url bar. (im too old fashioned to use the nice search bar, i just go back to google the old fashioned way...)
[15:29] <pteague_work> hylian, heh, same on the search bar
[15:34] <pteague_work> plus in a lot of cases i'm slightly modifying the url & opening multiple tabs to check different pages during development
[15:35] <hylian> pteague_work, this is probably something you have done already, but just try it going to google.com...
[15:36] <pteague_work> nope, alt+enter still acts like i just pressed enter
[15:36] <pteague_work> unless i do it specifically in the search box
[15:38] <pteague_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=201011
[15:38] <pteague_work> oops, that's mozilla, nm
[15:41] <hylian> pteague_work, strange... could this be somehow a problem cause by an addon?
[15:42] <pteague_work> could be, but i'm not aware of any of the ones i use using alt+enter for anything...
[15:51] <genii-around> Have you tried with -safe-mode to see?
[15:58] <hylian> pteague_work, sorry, wish i was more fluent with firefox, but for me, firefox has been a "it just works" solution since 6. i used to use chrome because of how buggy firefox was with flash, but even that problem is gone now for me, sorry. :(
[16:03] <pteague_work> found the plugin... which means i need to dig through it & figure out why it's messing with that  - http://tmp.garyr.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=14487
[16:04] <pteague_work> hylian, buggy flash? are you on 64bit?
[16:05] <hylian> pteague_work, no.
[16:06] <pteague_work> ah, that was my problem with flash... the 32bit wrapper was crap... there's finally now a ppa for 64bit flash
[17:20] <Guest31713> hi, i am having trouble trying to make the keyboard switch to greek from us and vice versa, can anyone please help?
[17:23] <Guest31713> and for some reason i don't have a xorg.conf file...!
[19:00] <ruby90> hi, doe anyone know a real (not like http://superuser.com/questions/155758/how-to-change-keyboard-layout-change-shortcut-in-xubuntu) fix for switching keyboard layouts?
[19:02] <ruby90> anyone.....?
[19:08] <ruby90> so xfce can't handle keyboard switching...?
[19:08] <Sysi> whats wrong with that, bind that command to some hotkey in xfce keyboard settings
[19:08] <Sysi> or you can try keyboard switching panel applet, though it has been buggy
[19:08] <ruby90> thank you
[19:15] <XubuntuKris> thunar doesn't seem to recognize my home directory, keeps throwing an error saying "host is down"
[19:15] <XubuntuKris> wtf?
[19:15] <ruby90> though it's not a proper way to do things
[19:15] <XubuntuKris> Anyone know what's going on.
[19:23] <XubuntuKris> Nobody?
[19:25] <XubuntuKris> The problem started after installing a font and running the command "sudo fc-cache -f"
[19:26] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: do you have any free space left in your home?
[19:26] <XubuntuKris> Yeah, tons
[19:26] <XubuntuKris> but I can't get to it at all
[19:27] <XubuntuKris> tells me that the "host is down"
[19:27] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: can you get to other directories?
[19:27] <XubuntuKris> Yes, Every other directory is accessible, including directories inside my home directory (desktop, etc)
[19:28] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: did you maybe mount some directory using samba?
[19:28] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: what if you start thunar in your home directory from a terminal?
[19:29] <XubuntuKris> it's telling me that it cant open the home directory because the samba directory host is down.
[19:29] <XubuntuKris> how do I open home directory from terminal
[19:30] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: 1. open terminal, 2. type 'thunar' and press enter
[19:31] <XubuntuKris> duh.lol
[19:31] <XubuntuKris> still loading, it never takes this long to load
[19:32] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: ok, open another terminal, type 'mount' and pastebin what it says
[19:32] <TheSheep> you probably have some samba share mounted at your home by mistake
[19:33] <XubuntuKris> but it was opening fine earlier
[19:33] <XubuntuKris> like I said, it only did this after installing a font and running "sudo fc-cache -f"
[19:34] <TheSheep> that command couldn't have caused this
[19:34] <XubuntuKris> Idk, cause it was opening fine earlier today.
[19:34] <TheSheep> how did you install the font, with the software center?
[19:34] <TheSheep> maybe earlier today the windows host from which you monted the directory was available
[19:34] <TheSheep> mounted*
[19:35] <TheSheep> anyways, please pastebin the result of a 'mount' command and we will see what's wrong
[19:37] <XubuntuKris> http://pastebin.com/Zn4J82mU
[19:38] <XubuntuKris> There you go.
[19:38] <TheSheep> //JOHNSON-PC/Ozzwin/ on /home/kristopher/ozzwin type cifs (rw,mand)
[19:38] <TheSheep> yup
[19:39] <TheSheep> try this command: 'unmount /home/kristopher/ozzwin'
[19:39] <TheSheep> sorry
[19:39] <TheSheep> that's 'umount /home/kristopher/ozzwin'
[19:39] <TheSheep> without 'n'
[19:40] <XubuntuKris> umount: /home/kristopher/ozzwin mount disagrees with the fstab
[19:40] <TheSheep> fun
[19:40] <XubuntuKris> fun?
[19:40] <TheSheep> did you use giggolo?
[19:40] <XubuntuKris> use it for what?
[19:40] <TheSheep> maybe try unmounting that directory in gigolo
[19:40] <TheSheep> if you used it to mount it
[19:41] <XubuntuKris> I don't think I used gigolo to mount it.
[19:41] <TheSheep> you have a network directory mounted as /home/kristopher/ozzwin from a computer that is not available anymore
[19:41] <TheSheep> that computer is JOHNSON-PC
[19:42] <TheSheep> it tries to access it an times out, that's why it doesn't work
[19:42] <TheSheep> how did you mount that directory?
[19:42] <XubuntuKris> but the computer is available. Everything is up and running fine
[19:42] <XubuntuKris> Oh shit, we had a power outtage this morning.
[19:42] <XubuntuKris> maybe if I reset my network?
[19:43] <TheSheep> I would just unmount that directory
[19:43] <TheSheep> but no idea how you mounted it
[19:43] <XubuntuKris> gigolo won't unmount it
[19:43] <TheSheep> I hate samba :(
[19:44] <XubuntuKris> i'm gonna try resetting the network.
[19:50] <XubuntuKris> damn, same error
[19:50] <XubuntuKris> grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[19:51] <charlie-tca> Did you reset the other machine?
[19:51] <XubuntuKris> no, but it's in use.
[19:51] <XubuntuKris> Otherwise, I would
[19:52] <charlie-tca> I have to restart my server, then my client to get my remote directories back after power failures
[19:52] <charlie-tca> but, I don't use windows, either
[19:52] <XubuntuKris> This is my only linux machine on what is basically a windows network.lol
[19:58] <XubuntuKris> Okay, restarting the other computer
[20:30] <XubuntuKris> How do I change where an external harddrive is mounted?
[20:30] <XubuntuKris> It's physically attached to my windows desktop, and mapped to my home folder.
[20:32] <TheSheep> how did you map it?
[20:32] <TheSheep> there is a line in /etc/fstab for it maybe?
[20:32] <XubuntuKris> Yes there is
[20:33] <TheSheep> that line has the path where it is mounted
[20:33] <XubuntuKris> The drive started showing up as a broken link today for some reason.
[20:33] <XubuntuKris> And I can't access my home directory because of it.
[20:34] <TheSheep> yeah, I remember
[20:34] <XubuntuKris> Yeah,
[20:34] <XubuntuKris> I'm thinking if I change where it's mounted, I'll be able to access my home directory
[20:34] <XubuntuKris> Or hell, remove the mount entirely and start over
[20:34] <TheSheep> you have to umount it first
[20:35] <TheSheep> you can try unmounting it as root
[20:35] <XubuntuKris> this is the line for it in /etc/fstab
[20:35] <XubuntuKris> /JOHNSON-PC/Ozzwin    /home/kristopher/ozzwin        cifs    credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 0 0
[20:36] <XubuntuKris> I did "sudo umount" to unmount it, and it worked
[20:36] <XubuntuKris> :D
[20:36] <XubuntuKris> a step in the right direction.
[20:36] <TheSheep> \o/
[20:37] <XubuntuKris> O.o
[20:37] <XubuntuKris> So it's unmounted
[20:37] <XubuntuKris> How do I remove it entirely?
[20:37] <TheSheep> now you should be able to access your ~ just fine
[20:38] <XubuntuKris> and then remount it
[20:38] <TheSheep> comment out that line in your /etc/fstab
[20:38] <XubuntuKris> indeed, I can access ~ just fine
[20:38] <TheSheep> oh, if you want to remount it, then just do 'mount /home/kristopher/ozzwin'
[20:39] <XubuntuKris> I already tried that, it breaks again.
[20:39] <TheSheep> well, there is some samba magic involved that I don't really understand
[20:39] <TheSheep> you could try #samba
[20:40] <XubuntuKris> Is samba my only option?
[20:41] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: samba is the network protocol that windows computers use to send files over the network
[20:42] <XubuntuKris> So I have to use samba...
[20:42] <TheSheep> XubuntuKris: since the other computer is windows, and they don't support other protocols very well...
[20:42] <XubuntuKris> no other options.
[20:42] <XubuntuKris> dang.
[20:42] <Sysi> *smb/cifs is protocol, samba is made for using those
[20:42] <TheSheep> there might be some options that would make it more responsive when the host is down, I don't know
[20:43] <TheSheep> also, you could mount it outside of your home directory
[20:43] <TheSheep> but that doesn't really solve the problem
[20:44] <XubuntuKris> I'll look into that later, I just remounted it again, and it all works fine
[20:44] <XubuntuKris> lol.
[20:44] <XubuntuKris> and to think, all this stuff I went through and all I had to do was "sudo umount"
[20:46] <TheSheep> next time you will know
[20:46] <XubuntuKris> maybe. my memory isn't all that great.
[20:46] <XubuntuKris> lol
[21:41] <nekotreci> how can i connect to server using xubuntu ?
[21:42] <nekotreci> i use bluefish and i had ubuntu, in ubuntu i just make connection and open that as folder using bluefish
[21:43] <nekotreci> now with xubuntu i cant find option connect to server
[23:48] <Fudge> guys guys
[23:48] <Fudge> whats the default wm for xfce
[23:49] <Fudge> and how can i use metacity instead
[23:49] <gusnan> Fudge, the default wm for xfce is called xfwm.
[23:51] <Fudge> gusnan  i just used metacity --replace and then found tha ti can use gnome-panel, with gnome-orca
[23:51] <Fudge> how would i configure it, or just save session
[23:53] <gusnan> I dont know - I guess you could just save the session to get metacity to replace xfwm permanently, but I dont really see the point... If you want gnome, why dont you just install gnome?
[23:54] <Fudge> i have gnome
[23:54] <Fudge> but i want to see if xfce will run faster even though it seems i have to use most stuff from gnome
[23:55] <Fudge> i cant stop xfce4-panel from working
[23:55] <Fudge> it respawns
[23:55] <Fudge> oh -q