[00:30] <melik> how is the ubuntu 11.10
[00:30] <melik> ISO
[00:30] <melik> is it safe for a production environment?
[00:30] <melik> or still really buggy ?
[01:05] <jcook_5xdata> Can some one help with lightdm on ubuntu 11.10? it fails to start to keeps trying to but after about 20 time it just stops. right now I am using slim it works but it does not support xubuntu
[01:05] <Daekdroom> Hello.
[01:05] <Daekdroom> I'm wondering why Xorg ignores my xorg.conf unless I use recovery mode.
[01:07] <jcook_5xdata> here is my lightdm log http://pastebin.com/33vXqxXV
[02:17] <wers> what's the /etc/gdm/Init/Default for LightDM?
[02:18] <wers> that file has to be tweak to optimize dithering for MacBook displays
[04:38] <ssargennto> anybody still having problems with updating packages?
[04:43] <billybigrigger> nope
[04:43] <billybigrigger> what's your troubles
[04:46] <ssargennto> earlier was getting error that apt couldnt verify the key or something.. others were getting the error to. was wondering if anybody else still was before i tried again
[04:56] <billybigrigger> ssargennto, apt is working here in the command line for me
[04:59] <ssargennto> aye, i just did an apt-get dist-upgrade and all went well
[05:23] <billybigrigger> ssargennto, i heard peeps having problems with update manager and the gui, i always stick to cli and it's always worked for me
[05:25] <ssargennto> yeah, im getting sick of update manager, always wanting to offer me partial upgrades
[07:38] <GutZuWiSSeN> hi .. is there a patched libnotify for oneric? i want to use notifyosdconfig :)
[09:40] <wers> what's the /etc/gdm/Init/Default for LightDM?
[09:45] <Ian_Corne> X11/default-display-manager:/usr/sbin/lightdm
[09:45] <Ian_Corne> /etc/X11/default-display-manager:/usr/sbin/lightdm
[09:45] <Ian_Corne> there you'll find it wers
[09:48] <wers> Ian_Corne, thanks!
[09:50] <wers> Ian_Corne, wait i'm lost. what's the counterpart of the /Default file?
[09:52] <Ian_Corne> doh, i just assumed you wanted to knwo how to make lightdm the default :p
[09:53] <wers> Ian_Corne, ah no. I'm on lightdm. For my MacBook Air, I have to tweak something on /Default for the display to function correctly
[09:53] <wers> I want to do the same with lightdm
[09:55] <Ian_Corne> and there's nothing in /etc/lightdm/ for you?
[09:56] <wers> Ian_Corne, yep, none
[09:56] <wers> or at least, I think. nothign looks like /Default for gmd
[09:56] <wers> *gdm
[09:59] <Ian_Corne> yes maybe it doesn't look like it
[09:59] <Ian_Corne> but might give you some options
[09:59] <Ian_Corne> like setting DPI
[09:59] <wers> Ian_Corne, I basically need to set dithering
[09:59] <wers> at 6 bits per colour channel to smooth colour gradients
[10:01] <Ian_Corne> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1835756
[10:01] <Ian_Corne> is that you? :p
[10:02] <Ian_Corne> top google result :D
[10:02] <wers> Ian_Corne, yes lol
[10:02] <wers> pretty small world, eh
[10:02] <Ian_Corne> i'm guesing you could mail the dev-list
[10:02] <Ian_Corne> for lightdm
[10:02] <Ian_Corne> because I don't know
[10:03] <wers> Ian_Corne, will do. thanks
[10:03] <wers> seems to be a fresh problem
[10:04] <wers> btw, I tried gdm on oneiric to solve my issue. it did fix gradients with proper dithering but graphics became slow for some weird reason
[10:06] <Ian_Corne> i don't know how/if gdm will be supported
[10:43] <antihero> Anyone else having a signature verification issue for de.archive ?
[10:44] <minimec> Hi. Would you have any information about ubuntu 11.10 and llvm-pipe? I have a ATI RS690 (x1250) which will need llvm, as the hardware has no vertex shaders. According to this article (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTQ0MA), Ubuntu 11.10 may enable llvm... For my card, it would be great... https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31635
[10:50] <antihero> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com oneiric Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[10:50] <antihero> This seems bad
[10:53] <IdleOne> !badsig
[10:53] <Johnny_Giggles> Hi everyone.  I'm thinking of transitioning to 11.10 even though it's not ready yet.  how ready is it?  Can I use it for general websurfing, development, etc?
[10:54] <IdleOne> Johnny_Giggles: if you depend on your machine to be stable for development then wait.
[10:55] <Johnny_Giggles> I'm just going through the exercises from K&R
[10:55] <Johnny_Giggles> C Programming book
[10:55] <minimec> Johnny_Giggles: I would wait. I had some problems with a Intel Ironlake GPU for example.
[10:55] <Johnny_Giggles> ok
[10:56] <IdleOne> antihero: sudo apt-key update
[10:56] <IdleOne> what does that tell you?
[10:57] <jtaylor> the signing went wrong yesterday
[10:57] <jtaylor> some mirrors may still be affected
[10:57] <jtaylor> it has nothing to do with your local keys
[10:57] <antihero> 2 unchange
[10:57] <IdleOne> see what jtaylor just said. Besides it is just a Warning
[10:58] <IdleOne> probably will be fixed in a few hours
[10:58] <jtaylor> no
[10:58] <jtaylor> its an error
[10:58] <jtaylor> which must not be ignored under normal circumstances
[10:58] <jtaylor> bad signature could mean someone is doing messing with your connection to your repo
[11:00] <antihero> :O
[11:00] <antihero> It's times like these I'm glad I'm not using Arch linux.
[11:00] <jtaylor> in this case there was some issue with automatic signing in the main repo, which was reported and fixed yesterday
[11:01] <antihero> so I shouldn't update my keys
[11:01] <antihero> right?
[11:01] <antihero> because they might be compromised :|
[11:01] <jtaylor> no the keys should be fine
[11:02] <jtaylor> gpg --list-keys  --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg should have a key with id 1024D/437D05B5 and fingerprint 6302 39CC 130E 1A7F D81A  27B1 4097 6EAF 437D 05B5
[11:04] <antihero> how do I know someone hasn't MITM'd and edited your message?
[11:04] <antihero> PARANOIA
[11:04] <jtaylor> I can sign it with my key :)
[11:04] <antihero> but I have never had your key on a trusted connection
[11:05] <antihero> so they could be re-signing it
[11:05] <antihero> and giving me a false key
[11:05] <antihero> fuuuu
[11:05] <antihero> but yeah I do have a key with that ID
[11:26] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I need tomcat7 on ubuntu, but it somehow won't work on 11.04 so I tried updating to 11.10 (it's only for developing apps on my own), but I get the error: "Error authenticating some packages" (and a list of all packages). Any help  with either tomcat7 on 11.04 or the upgrade error?
[11:29] <jtaylor> yes there are signing issues
[11:29] <jtaylor> wait a while
[11:29] <KNUBBIG> aah okay! Thanks! :)
[11:29] <jtaylor> I just checked the newest signature from today is also bad
[11:29] <jtaylor> apparently its nto fixed yet
[11:29] <KNUBBIG> I thought it was my bad as I'm behind a firewall and had some serious problems with rsync easier today
[11:30] <KNUBBIG> :)
[12:00] <jtaylor> signature on main archive is good again
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[14:11] <lenios__> firefox 7 already here, great
[14:13] <Feldegast> it is??
[14:13] <lenios__> yes
[14:14] <lenios__> well, beta available on oneiric repositories, that is
[14:14] <Feldegast> ah beta
[14:16] <BluesKaj> been avoiding FF , due to clunkiness ...does this one seem less bloated than previous versions ?
[14:16] <Feldegast> my big issues is flash, not ffx itself
[14:51] <vega__> is shotwell still the default photo manager in oneiric?
[15:26] <francis__> I am using daily build of 28 August installed the restricted extra but can't stream web radio. any help
[15:36] <SpamapS> francis__: "can't stream web radio" is pretty hard to debug. Can you describe your symptoms?
[15:39] <francis__> when I click play on the radio nothing happens just the black screen.
[15:41] <SpamapS> francis__: what "radio"
[15:41] <SpamapS> francis__: and do other sounds work?
[15:42] <francis__> if i right click to use totem it tells me 'could not read from resource
[15:42] <francis__> yes other sounds work can play movies and mp3
[15:43] <francis__> the radio station request for text/html plugin
[15:44] <francis__> radio is www.myjoyonline.com/services/radio/#
[15:46] <SpamapS> francis__: yeah I think you need to enable some restricted plugins for that.
[15:51] <francis__> I have installed the restricted extras and also xine-plugin. used to be enough when I was using 11.04
[15:51] <francis__> Any suggestions for me
[15:55] <BluesKaj> francis__, which browser ?
[15:55] <francis__> BluesKaj_, firefox
[15:56] <BluesKaj> FF works well with the mozilla-plugin-vlc
[15:57] <francis__> so should i remove the xine plugin first? my first distro was 11.04 just this year bear with me
[15:58] <BluesKaj> no
[15:59] <francis__> thanks will install now
[15:59] <BluesKaj> if mozilla conflicts , which I doubt then xine will probly be disabled by default
[16:06] <BluesKaj> BBL, lunchtime
[17:06] <ssargennto> how goes it everyone?
[17:10] <ssargennto> i just read earlier that the main archives signature is working but when i 'apt-get dist-upgrade' it seems its not working. anybody having troubles at the moment?
[17:31] <dtkachenko> Hello, All. Anyone now try testing skype in ubuntu 11.10
[17:32] <dtkachenko> I've error "skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when I try run it.
[17:33] <dtkachenko> Does anyone know how to fix it?
[18:02] <bjsnider> !file libXss.so.1
[18:04] <bjsnider> ugh. if he comes back in, tell him to install libxss1
[18:04] <bjsnider> and whack him on the head
[18:04] <jtaylor> also qtgui4 qtcore4
[18:10] <BluesKaj> jtaylor, which repos are the qts in ?
[18:11] <jtaylor> main?
[18:11] <jtaylor> yes main
[18:12] <BluesKaj> libqtcore ..ok
[18:13] <BluesKaj> still din't help my skype install
[18:13] <jtaylor> the 32 bit variants you need
[18:13] <jtaylor> see the bug on the skype package
[18:14] <BluesKaj> static skype as well ?
[18:14] <jtaylor> sudo apt-get install skype:i386 should be simplest
[18:14] <jtaylor> for "64bit" sudo apt-get install libxss1:i386 libqtcore4:i386 libqtgui4:i386
[18:16] <bjsnider> BluesKaj, is it just a coincidence that you're testing it too?
[18:21] <BluesKaj> bjsnider, testing ... well I suppose if you want to get technical about it , yeah :)
[18:50] <rye> Hello, does anybody know how to add a keyboard layout in Oneiric? Keyboard settings seems to lack it and the localization control panel thing does not do anything with the keyboard
[19:11] <rye> nevermind, bug #834523
[20:31] <syke> hi
[20:32] <syke> after a dist-upgrade cycle last week, logging into regular Unity doesn't give me a taskbar anymore
[20:32] <syke> I just get a File menu across the very top of the screen, and nothing more
[20:32] <syke> Unity2D works fine, still
[20:32] <syke> I tried resetting/removing all my .config and .cache files
[20:32] <syke> no dice
[20:33] <syke> any ideas?
[20:55] <bjsnider> syke, perhaps you've got an opengl problem
[21:14] <cebalrai> anyone else having weird issues with aptitude right now?
[21:15] <cebalrai> it forgets that i already dismissed the "new packages". Also some packages (for example gnome-shell) appear twice with different states (one is installed, the other one isn't)
[21:17] <yofel> aptitude doesn't support multiarch yet
[21:18] <yofel> which beside the duplicate entries causes bug 831768
[21:18] <cebalrai> ah that explains it. I wasn't aware of the switch to multi arch. Thanks
[21:22] <billybigrigger> is everyone's dash still bork3d?
[21:22] <billybigrigger> ie clicking on media, internet, or more apps closes the dash?
[21:23] <Ian_Corne> yes
[21:50] <dude> hello dudettes
[21:55] <billybigrigger> sup dude
[22:12] <Lekensteyn> hi, does multiarch now? I can't install libc6:i386 which is a dependency for a lot packages
[22:13] <Ian_Corne> it should work yes
[22:13] <Ian_Corne> but as i heard, not via aptitude :)
[22:14] <Lekensteyn> Using apt-get
[22:14] <Lekensteyn> ah found it
[22:14] <Lekensteyn> I had to add [arch=i386,amd64] after deb in my sources.list
[22:14] <Ian_Corne> aha
[22:14] <Lekensteyn> yep, that works :)
[22:15] <Ian_Corne> hmm i have that nowhere
[22:15] <Ian_Corne> ohwell
[22:15] <Ian_Corne> guess i don't need 32 bit stuff yet :p
[22:15] <Ian_Corne> what kind of things do you install Lekensteyn ?
[22:16] <Lekensteyn> I am packaging virtualgl for Bumblebee
[22:16] <Lekensteyn> on natty and before, I'd just include all libraries in one package. For oneiric, I decided to use multiarch
[22:17] <Ian_Corne> yes, that's probably the "proper" way to go :)
[22:17] <Ian_Corne> I'm still scared of using bumblebee on my laptop
[22:17] <Ian_Corne> with the rm /usr /path/to/file incident :p
[22:17] <Lekensteyn> just keep away from mj-casalogic/bumblebee and you'll be fine
[22:18] <Lekensteyn> we've forked the project to Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee
[22:18] <Lekensteyn> lp:bumblebee/stable
[22:18] <Lekensteyn> the 32-bit virtualgl libs are currently broken for oneiric, but I now need to fix it
[22:18] <Lekensteyn> wha twould you suggest? I've currently a Depends for the libraries set
[22:19] <Lekensteyn> that should be fine with "recommends" or even "suggests" too
[22:19] <Ian_Corne> well my laptop is running pae
[22:19] <Ian_Corne> so it should be fine
[22:19] <Lekensteyn> the arch of virtualgl does not matter
[22:19] <Lekensteyn> it's like this:
[22:20] <Lekensteyn> application (i386 or amd64 virtualgl-libs)   <--->   virtualgl (i386 or amd64), all four combinations are possible
[22:20] <Ian_Corne> i have no idea about packaging sorry
[22:20] <Ian_Corne> but others in here do :)
[22:21] <Lekensteyn> I know a bit of packaging, but multiarch is completely new for me
[22:21] <tiox> I don't have any USB drives I can install 11.10 that I own, and 11.10a3 is just too big to fit onto disk. What can I remove in order to successfully copy it using Brasero's tools?
[22:22] <Lekensteyn> tiox: what about using a DVD?
[22:22] <tiox> Option, but I don't wish to use DVDs to something that looks like can fit on a 700MB CD-R.
[22:22] <tiox> It's just 6.5MB too big, I think.
[22:23] <jtaylor> the size should be fixed until beta
[22:23] <Lekensteyn> beta is tomorrow right?
[22:23] <charlie-tca> thursday
[22:24] <tiox> So just wait until b1?
[22:28] <jtaylor> yes
[22:28] <jtaylor> with luck the daily builds will have correct size a few days earlier
[22:29] <jtaylor> actually the alternate installer seems ok sized now
[22:29] <jtaylor> regular installer too
[22:34] <Daekdroom> Can anyone tell me how to force lightdm to use /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[22:36] <Lekensteyn> any experts here with multi-arch packaging?
[22:57] <BUGabundo> o/
[23:17] <BUGabundo> segfauls all around
[23:17] <BUGabundo> not sure how long ill be here
[23:17] <BUGabundo> seems to be in python and libc
[23:17] <Ian_Corne> hey BUGabundo
[23:18] <BUGabundo> anyone knows what's going on?
[23:18]  * burner wonders why nvidia driver doesn't let X start but nouveau works fine
[23:19] <Ian_Corne> BUGabundo: i don't have that issue sorry