| mhall119 | jcastro: aww | 02:01 |
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| paultag | Sweet. I finally finished that USB RGB throbber arduino thing. Responds to a single 3 bit byte to control what colors are on over ttyUSB0 | 03:01 |
| paultag | alias alert='echo "1" > /dev/ttyUSB0' | 03:01 |
| paultag | :) | 03:01 |
| head_victim | Good afternoon all | 03:36 |
| nigelb | hello head_victim | 03:42 |
| nigelb | Morning! | 03:42 |
| head_victim | It's good being in front of almost everyone :) | 03:45 |
| head_victim | How goes. | 03:45 |
| nigelb | Pretty good, I just woke up. | 03:45 |
| nigelb | Tomorrow and day after being holidays give me great motivation :D | 03:45 |
| head_victim | Nice, It's been 22 hours since I woke up :/ | 03:45 |
| nigelb | Ouch. | 03:46 |
| head_victim | Yeah, trying to find a way to type an assertive email without upsetting people so it's taking longer than anticipated | 03:46 |
| * head_victim thinks some people might be trying to take advantage of popey 's absence on the -users ml | 03:47 | |
| nigelb | Didn't popey shut it down? | 03:47 |
| nigelb | Oh wait, that was sounder. | 03:48 |
| head_victim | Hah nah they're trying to convert the -users into a sounder :/ | 03:48 |
| nigelb | ouch. | 03:48 |
| head_victim | Ah well, I'll probably get shouted down but I'm about to hit send to point out the obvious | 03:49 |
| nigelb | jono's last tweet explains that his wife reads his tweets :P | 04:47 |
| nigelb | (j | 04:48 |
| nigelb | (j/k) :) | 04:49 |
| jono | lol | 04:50 |
| jono | howdy dpm | 06:06 |
| dpm | heya jono :) | 06:06 |
| nigelb | Morning dpm | 06:23 |
| dpm | morning nigelb | 06:23 |
| nigelb | dpm: Is the schedule for app developer day sort of stable now? | 06:23 |
| nigelb | We'd like to get it added to the calender and do a blog post about it on the classroom blog | 06:24 |
| dpm | nigelb, yeah, definitely. It would be great to find 2 sessions to close the open slots in the schedule, but it is stable as of yesterday: | 06:25 |
| dpm | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable | 06:25 |
| dpm | I wanted to blog about it yesterday, but got busy with developer.ubuntu.com, so if you guys can do a blog post on the classroom blog, that'd be awesome! | 06:26 |
| nigelb | I'll get it done today evening, when I get home :) | 06:26 |
| * dpm hugs nigelb | 06:27 | |
| * nigelb hugs dpm :) | 06:27 | |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:00 |
| jono | hey dholbach | 07:28 |
| jono | just FYI - I moved our call earlier by 30m | 07:28 |
| jono | I also sent you a link to a Google Doc where I tracked the work we discussed | 07:28 |
| dholbach | hi jono | 07:28 |
| dholbach | yep, saw it - thanks! | 07:28 |
| dholbach | did you have another look at the doc I sent? | 07:29 |
| jono | I figured it would be easier as you need to take off | 07:29 |
| jono | dholbach, I did | 07:29 |
| jono | it looks good | 07:29 |
| dholbach | great | 07:29 |
| jono | we have plenty to discuss :-) | 07:29 |
| dholbach | yeah :) | 07:30 |
| nigelb | heya dholbach! | 07:30 |
| dholbach | hiya nigelb | 07:30 |
| nigelb | head_victim: meeting today? | 07:33 |
| nigelb | Or is it next tuesday? | 07:34 |
| head_victim | They have it as the 2nd and 4th so that actually means 2 weeks time | 07:37 |
| head_victim | I assume you mean RMB? | 07:37 |
| head_victim | And what's worse, being the shiftworker I am (disclosed before accepting position) means I actually miss the first one I could attend unless I can organise my lunch hour around it, which will depend on workload. | 07:40 |
| nigelb | head_victim: Yeah, I meant RMB. | 07:49 |
| head_victim | nigelb: speaking of RMB, is there anywhere I can go to read up on the general admin rules (quorum, what to do if...... and all that sort of thing?) | 08:35 |
| nigelb | head_victim: hmm, not sure if such a place exist beyond some mailing lists. someone on the board should know better. czajkowski? | 08:36 |
| * nigelb is not on any board. | 08:36 | |
| czajkowski | head_victim: which board are you on | 08:38 |
| head_victim | czajkowski: asia oceania | 08:42 |
| head_victim | *membership board | 08:42 |
| czajkowski | head_victim: best to ask them how they operate tbh, and how they chair rotations and how votes are done tbh | 08:42 |
| head_victim | czajkowski: no worries, wasn't sure if there was a set standard but appears not. | 08:43 |
| nigelb | g26 | 08:44 |
| nigelb | gah | 08:44 |
| czajkowski | head_victim: sorry cant be more help, I've yet to see an a/o meeting take place in a long time. hopefully that's about to change :) | 08:45 |
| head_victim | czajkowski: yeah the wiki is far from up to date. Just making sure there wasn't some SOPs somewhere I hadn't stumbled on yet | 08:48 |
| czajkowski | what wiki page? | 08:54 |
| head_victim | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania | 08:56 |
| czajkowski | yeah as I said, there's not been a meting in a long while and not updating the page in a while., they do their page differently than the others as well | 08:57 |
| head_victim | No worries, I'll use the launchpad group to send them an email | 08:58 |
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| === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch | ||
| dpm | dholbach, when you've got a minute, could you tweet from ubuntudev about UADW? -> http://davidplanella.wordpress.com/2011/08/30/announcing-ubuntu-app-developer-week-oneiric/ | 15:16 |
| dholbach | will do | 15:16 |
| * dpm hugs dholbach | 15:16 | |
| * dholbach hugs dpm back | 15:16 | |
| * dpm runs to catch a plane | 15:18 | |
| jono | dholbach, hey | 15:35 |
| jono | sorry a few mins late, was grabbing breakfast | 15:35 |
| dholbach | hey jono | 15:36 |
| jono | all set on skype? | 15:36 |
| dholbach | no worries | 15:36 |
| dholbach | let's go | 15:36 |
| nigelb | Bah, new version of contributor agreement wants people to print, sign, scan? That's a bit too much. | 15:38 |
| nigelb | Really glad I already signed the agreement. | 15:39 |
| paultag | nigelb: for canonicial attrubution? | 15:40 |
| paultag | attribution | 15:41 |
| nigelb | paultag: There is no more attribution. | 15:41 |
| nigelb | Its just the agreement. | 15:42 |
| nigelb | I own the copyright for my code, but Canonical has full permission to do whatever with it. | 15:42 |
| paultag | nigelb: but what are you signing over then? | 15:42 |
| paultag | Oh jeez | 15:42 |
| nigelb | or something. | 15:42 |
| paultag | yeah, I'm staying way far away from that | 15:42 |
| paultag | man, it's looking more and more like debian time for me | 15:43 |
| nigelb | Why? | 15:43 |
| nigelb | No one is forcing you to sign the agreement, unless you want to write code for something that Canonical started. | 15:44 |
| paultag | nigelb: stuff's getting bogus, and I can't help but feel like this is not the same project it was a few years ago | 15:44 |
| paultag | nigelb: yeah, that's the point :) | 15:44 |
| nigelb | Debian's not that far away. We'd still love you for maintaining fluxbox :) | 15:44 |
| daker | nigelb, the ensemble team told me that too | 15:45 |
| paultag | nigelb: I'm realskies upstream there, I'm now @fluxbox.org | 15:45 |
| paultag | and I'm going to GSoC:MS for them | 15:45 |
| nigelb | Nice | 15:46 |
| nigelb | daker: did you sign it? | 15:46 |
| daker | nigelb, i am not a crazy ツ | 15:46 |
| paultag | hehehe ^5 daker | 15:46 |
| paultag | if I wanted to give code away under whatever license, I'd choose BSD by hand | 15:47 |
| nigelb | meh, I'd rather improve my frustration with Launchpad than just crib. | 15:47 |
| paultag | if I say something's GPL or AGPL then I'd expect you'd respect that | 15:47 |
| paultag | and if you force people to say Oh but we can do what we want - even turn it into a for-pay nonfree model and you get nothing, thanks for stoping by | 15:47 |
| paultag | in the end it's not respectful | 15:47 |
| paultag | which is a damn shame | 15:47 |
| paultag | and, to be clear, fluxbox is BSD, so I don't have some problem with it | 15:48 |
| paultag | it'ps just I expect my terms to be respected. | 15:48 |
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| jcastro | hey dholbach | 16:07 |
| dholbach | hey jcastro | 16:07 |
| jcastro | hey so it appears to me that shutting down sounder just made people think they can act like idiots on -users | 16:07 |
| jcastro | discuss. | 16:07 |
| dholbach | talk to ogra about it - he's been complaining about it for a longer while already | 16:08 |
| jcastro | yes, he's been complaining for like 3 years | 16:08 |
| dholbach | I guess we need to put out a call for more moderators | 16:08 |
| jcastro | but it's been getting worse since sounder shut down | 16:08 |
| dholbach | for a while it's been better again | 16:08 |
| jcastro | let's not tell popey, he'll just go turn it off | 16:09 |
| * jcastro grins. | 16:09 | |
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| nigelb | jcastro: That was one of the arguments for keeping sounder on | 16:10 |
| nigelb | That way those sort of discussion could be pushed there. | 16:10 |
| jcastro | ok so basically people think it's ok to act like idiots because they don't have an officially designated place to act like idiots. | 16:11 |
| jcastro | I was thinking more along the lines of "don't act like an idiot" | 16:12 |
| pleia2 | dholbach: +1 to more moderators (I'm a list admin, but I don't read it, never have, I was added because I didn't unvolunteer ;)), but I don't think anyone wants the job | 16:12 |
| pleia2 | jcastro: yeah, I don't think we should be hosting such junk | 16:12 |
| pleia2 | there is a whole internet out there for it | 16:12 |
| jcastro | "I can be an asshole to you on this list because they don't have sounder, which was where I was self contained before, but since you took it away it entitles me to pollute the rest of the project with my bile. Rabble, rabble." | 16:13 |
| jcastro | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2011-August/003189.html | 16:13 |
| jcastro | this one is awesome | 16:13 |
| nigelb | jcastro: +1 for "don't act like an idiot" | 16:15 |
| nigelb | lets tell popey | 16:15 |
| nigelb | he'll get it shut down in a week. | 16:15 |
| jcastro | "Unfortunately, my experiences of the last years with ubuntu maintainers teach that being confrontational has the highest probability of getting a bug/problem fixed, while beeing friendly usually results in beeing ignored" | 16:15 |
| jcastro | that is awesome | 16:15 |
| nigelb | :| | 16:16 |
| dholbach | alright my friends - I call it a day | 16:23 |
| dholbach | see you all tomorrow | 16:23 |
| nigelb | g'nite dholbach | 16:23 |
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| jono | mhall119, cjohnston are we still moving along smoothly on the l.u.c stuff? | 16:44 |
| mhall119 | jono: yup, the data recovery script is done, waiting review, and we have IS ready to run it as soon as it's ready for them | 16:53 |
| jono | mhall119, what is waiting to be reviewed? | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | the blog feed changes are also ready, I believe, and once we do the data recover we'll be ready to move that out | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | jono: just the code for the recovery script, to make sure I didn't miss any glaring logic errors | 16:53 |
| jono | ahhh gotcha | 16:54 |
| jono | mhall119, think we can get that reviewed today? | 16:54 |
| mhall119 | the last thing I want to do is cause *more* damage to the databas | 16:54 |
| mhall119 | I think so, cjohnston has some presentation to do at work today, which is probably where he is now | 16:54 |
| jono | cool | 16:54 |
| jono | thanks mhall119 | 16:54 |
| mhall119 | np | 16:55 |
| jono | rock and roll :-) | 16:55 |
| jcastro | hey so what's going on with loco directory | 17:02 |
| jcastro | this sounds awesome | 17:02 |
| czajkowski | http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie/events 3 jams :D | 17:08 |
| pleia2 | nice :) | 17:08 |
| czajkowski | yeah am well chuffed | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | I'm just pleased we pulled off one, holiday weekend here in the stats has everyone MIA (including me) | 17:09 |
| pleia2 | s/stats/states | 17:09 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: we're blowing it up | 17:55 |
| jcastro | Wait until you see my etherpad lite blog post | 18:04 |
| jcastro | I will be awesome today | 18:04 |
| akgraner | mhall119, how long does it take a member in LP to show up as a team member in the LD | 18:08 |
| akgraner | I just had the contact for one of our events join the NC LoCo Team in LP but I can't find his name in the LD to list him as POC | 18:09 |
| mhall119 | akgraner: about an hour usually | 18:15 |
| mhall119 | that's to have their profile updated, their user account is created at login | 18:15 |
| mhall119 | we're working on improving that | 18:15 |
| akgraner | hey jono it's nice being quoted with you (and Linus) in the same article - Linus Torvalds and Others on Community Burnout - http://www.datamation.com/open-source/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-community-burnout-1.html | 18:21 |
| jono | ahhh he published it...reading | 18:22 |
| jcastro | hey mhall119 | 18:24 |
| jcastro | http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/9593170639/etherpad-lite-now-easy-to-deploy-for-your-events | 18:24 |
| jcastro | jono: ^ | 18:24 |
| jcastro | Now everyone can have etherpad lite for their event | 18:24 |
| jcastro | total set up time ~10 minutes | 18:24 |
| jcastro | cost, a few dollars | 18:24 |
| jono | jcastro, sweet! | 18:25 |
| mhall119 | AlanBell: ^^ etherpad light for UDS-P? | 18:25 |
| jcastro | mhall119: top that with loco directory today. :) | 18:25 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: heh, I might ;) | 18:25 |
| jcastro | http://ec2-50-17-151-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com:9001/ | 18:27 |
| jcastro | throw something up there everyone | 18:27 |
| jcastro | kick the tires | 18:27 |
| jcastro | man | 18:29 |
| jcastro | I can't tell you how many events this would have been awesome at | 18:29 |
| jcastro | jono: let's time machine | 18:30 |
| jcastro | pretend it's LRL USA. | 18:30 |
| jcastro | "omg I need infrastructure for my event" | 18:31 |
| jcastro | "oh now worries bro, here's a bundle of formulas, we call it the Open Conference Pack" | 18:31 |
| jcastro | blam, you get etherpad, a wiki, a blog, summit, etc. | 18:31 |
| nigelb | jcastro++ | 18:32 |
| nigelb | jcastro: is that etherpad lite? | 18:32 |
| jcastro | YESSIR | 18:32 |
| jcastro | in all it's node.js glory | 18:32 |
| nigelb | \o/ | 18:32 |
| nigelb | How's the server load? | 18:33 |
| nigelb | Daviey: ^^ Switch too etherpad lite! | 18:33 |
| jcastro | 0.0 | 18:33 |
| jcastro | it's an m1.large | 18:33 |
| nigelb | well, large shouldn't raise a peep | 18:33 |
| nigelb | jcastro: RAM? | 18:33 |
| jcastro | james "guesses" you could do an event like UDS on an m1.large, but he's not willing to put his name down for that. | 18:33 |
| jcastro | http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/ | 18:34 |
| jcastro | nigelb: look at the 2nd instance | 18:34 |
| doctormo | Interesting article, thanks for posting akgraner | 18:34 |
| jcastro | that's what it's on right now | 18:34 |
| nigelb | I know what large is :) | 18:34 |
| jcastro | oh | 18:34 |
| jcastro | ;) | 18:34 |
| * nigelb manages ec2 servers at work | 18:34 | |
| jcastro | oh, didn't know that | 18:34 |
| jcastro | ok so even if it scaled I would bet that IS would want the instance running locally at the UDS location anyway | 18:34 |
| jcastro | at that point you just fire up orchestra and deploy to the local thing instead | 18:35 |
| jcastro | ^^^ note that that part doesn't work yet | 18:35 |
| doctormo | jcastro: I wonder if the project could need the svg template/generation software I developed for UDS-N | 18:35 |
| nigelb | but local would be bad for remote. | 18:35 |
| jcastro | I bet running the whole thing in EC2 would work fine | 18:36 |
| akgraner | doctormo, thanks - I was as honest I as could be when I talked to Bruce... | 18:36 |
| nigelb | It totally should. | 18:36 |
| jcastro | it's not like we're streaming 1080p video | 18:36 |
| nigelb | jcastro: WE could do some smart load balancing if we wanted to. | 18:36 |
| jcastro | yeah he is working on that next | 18:36 |
| nigelb | Like, two instances talking to same db | 18:36 |
| jcastro | right | 18:36 |
| jcastro | you just add the mysql one | 18:36 |
| jcastro | make the relation | 18:36 |
| nigelb | and then a load balancer between. | 18:36 |
| jcastro | and then add a load balancer | 18:37 |
| nigelb | heh, we're thinking the same thing :) | 18:37 |
| jcastro | if the request comes from internal IPs, hit the local server, everything else, EC2. | 18:37 |
| jcastro | nigelb: great minds think alike! | 18:37 |
| nigelb | haha +1! | 18:37 |
| jcastro | theoretically that is all easy with ensemble | 18:37 |
| nigelb | I'm totally for it. | 18:37 |
| jcastro | "haproxy can't do it - it needs to understand node.js socketio + be able to interrogate messages to determine pad locations and that all needs to be backed by a scalable key value store like cassandra or mongo" | 18:38 |
| jcastro | is what he told me | 18:38 |
| jcastro | at that point I decided "ok then, m1.large instead of a small, got it." | 18:38 |
| Daviey | jcastro: I think jamespage might have written an ensemble formula for etherpad lite already | 18:39 |
| jcastro | Daviey: that's what we're talking about | 18:39 |
| jcastro | he fixed it just now | 18:39 |
| jcastro | it's was almost working | 18:39 |
| Daviey | cool | 18:39 |
| jcastro | but now it's working | 18:40 |
| doctormo | akgraner: How's life these days? | 18:40 |
| akgraner | good... | 18:41 |
| akgraner | getting back into my own groove | 18:41 |
| akgraner | balance is a good thing | 18:41 |
| akgraner | doctormo, do you have any team members in or near Lowell | 18:41 |
| doctormo | akgraner: We call them force stable phases. | 18:42 |
| akgraner | the priest at my old parish in Lowell wants some more information on Ubuntu and could use some face to face instructions | 18:42 |
| doctormo | akgraner: Yes, Mike Rushton (leftyfb) was a member for a long time and Elizabeth DeMarco (|iz) still is. | 18:42 |
| akgraner | I am sending hin the official Ubuntu Book, but wanted to give him a POC as well | 18:43 |
| akgraner | s/hin/him | 18:43 |
| doctormo | OK so he has options, there is a train into Boston from Lowell and getting in person training is possible here. Also I'm sure Mike could be convinced to help give some face time up there. | 18:43 |
| akgraner | ok I'll let you know when he has the book and you all can take it from there | 18:43 |
| doctormo | akgraner: Send an email to ubuntu-us-ma@lists.ubuntu.com when ready. | 18:44 |
| akgraner | he rarely gets away from the church...his schedule is nuts | 18:44 |
| akgraner | will do thanks! | 18:44 |
| doctormo | I have developed a rather nifty xbmc module for video library checking, but the xbmc community is really hard. Preference Ubuntu community +1 | 18:45 |
| AlanBell | what is the benefit of etherpad lite over what we have working? | 19:01 |
| Daviey | AlanBell: scaliability | 19:03 |
| * AlanBell hates that word | 19:03 | |
| AlanBell | so are you meaning that in the sense that you can run it seamlessly across multiple servers, or that it uses fewer resources per user? | 19:05 |
| AlanBell | and is any of this worth the effort of getting IS to deploy it? | 19:06 |
| AlanBell | or can the ensemble/cloud peeps adopt a JFDI methodology with it? | 19:07 |
| jcastro | doctormo: what checking does it do? | 19:09 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: according to james page this is much lighter on the resources, by a ton | 19:09 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: but if what we have no works then shrug, why change it | 19:10 |
| jcastro | I think the nice thing here is for things like Barcamps and stuff | 19:10 |
| jcastro | that want something fast and easy without messing around with having to be a sysadmin | 19:10 |
| jcastro | Need a pad for your local jam? Done. | 19:10 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I can see it is better, just not a reason to change | 19:11 |
| * jcastro nods | 19:11 | |
| AlanBell | if it could do SSO with launchpad then *yes* | 19:11 |
| jcastro | well, this is very embedable | 19:11 |
| jcastro | I think you just put it in an existing page | 19:11 |
| jcastro | oh right | 19:11 |
| AlanBell | just like the other one, it sits in an iframe | 19:11 |
| jcastro | I remember now | 19:11 |
| jcastro | spam | 19:11 |
| jcastro | right | 19:11 |
| AlanBell | so if it could pick up names automagically from the user logged into summit that would be sweet | 19:12 |
| AlanBell | or do some level of SSO/authentication | 19:12 |
| AlanBell | right now I am looking at it and thinking that all the theme work (which was only a few hours, but still) would need to be redone, just to get back to square one | 19:13 |
| doctormo | jcastro: I was talking about a templater which takes data (sql/ical etc) and pushes out pdfs for printing. good for conference badges, room signs and other things. uses svg. | 19:13 |
| doctormo | Or do I have wrong end of stick? | 19:13 |
| doctormo | Oh you mean the librarian. | 19:14 |
| jcastro | yeah, as part of a conference pack | 19:14 |
| jcastro | that's awesome | 19:14 |
| AlanBell | however it is *very* easy to point summit at a different etherpad server at a moments notice | 19:14 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: as far as I'm concerned the current pad is your blood and tears, whatever you think is best is what I'll support. | 19:14 |
| jcastro | I wasn't the one pitchforking normal etherpad, I believe that was nigel | 19:15 |
| jcastro | I have much better things to complain about | 19:15 |
| jcastro | like the wiki. :p | 19:15 |
| AlanBell | heh, not that much blood went into it :) | 19:15 |
| doctormo | xbmc librarian: checks video lengths, missing files, missing db entries (files with no entry), missing episodes from tvshows. | 19:15 |
| jcastro | ok so is it like a db clean like from the menu? | 19:16 |
| AlanBell | when nigelb gets SSO into etherpad lite I will get my pitchfork out too | 19:16 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: I agree, moving everything to nigel's plate neatly wraps up our responsibilities. | 19:16 |
| AlanBell | \o/ | 19:16 |
| doctormo | jcastro: No, the clean actually attempts to remove db entries with no file, this just reports (no fix) on what is wrong. | 19:16 |
| jcastro | Oh | 19:17 |
| doctormo | do you run xbmc jcastro? | 19:17 |
| jcastro | yes | 19:18 |
| jcastro | it's been my side project for going on 6 months now, it's me new Ask Ubuntu. | 19:18 |
| jcastro | it's taking up like all my free time | 19:18 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Packagaing, setup or collecting videos? curious. | 19:26 |
| jcastro | just using it | 19:30 |
| jcastro | it's like KDE, 50 options buried inside 50 other options | 19:30 |
| jcastro | in a for loop | 19:30 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Most of the options are burried in code. do you use video addons? | 19:30 |
| jcastro | a few, not many, they're too confusing to use, the UI needs work there | 19:31 |
| doctormo | jcastro: Indeed it does, although kde is slightly better in that they're coming round to some UI testing. | 19:35 |
| doctormo | I'm hoping I can change Daily Show and Colbert Report addons to download instead of stream... one day, future project. | 19:36 |
| doctormo | Let me know if you need any help and what you're trying to do, I got mine up and running in 3 days or so. | 19:36 |
| jcastro | mine works awesome | 19:38 |
| jcastro | it's the needless tweaking I always do, heh | 19:38 |
| doctormo | Awesome | 19:38 |
| doctormo | I'll pass along the librarian addon via email for you to try out. | 19:38 |
| * jcastro nods | 19:39 | |
| * AlanBell can't stream the daily show :( | 19:39 | |
| paultag | doctormo: have you posted it to the ML yet? | 19:39 |
| paultag | P.S. - for all the PPA fans out there, I'm in the middle of a fancy implementation for Fluxbox >:) - http://pault.ag/fluxbox/debian/ | 19:40 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: oh hey I forgot to ask you | 19:40 |
| jcastro | your lens, is it for 11.10? | 19:40 |
| AlanBell | yes | 19:40 |
| jcastro | ok whew | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | jono: ping | 19:41 |
| jcastro | I was dreading having to tell you that it's all different in 11.10 | 19:41 |
| jono | hey mhall119 | 19:41 |
| AlanBell | jcastro: I get the feeling that the documentation is a bit 11.04ish | 19:41 |
| mhall119 | jono: data recovery has been done, I'm going to send an email to loco-contacts letting them know and to have them check for duplicates | 19:41 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: updating that is on his todo list | 19:42 |
| jcastro | he's been slammed | 19:42 |
| jcastro | I too have been looking forward to them | 19:42 |
| AlanBell | quite excited by the python lens possibilities | 19:42 |
| jono | mhall119, awesome, and then what is the next step for landing the blogging feature? | 19:42 |
| mhall119 | jono: I'm not 100% sure, I'll have to check with cjohnston | 19:43 |
| jono | mhall119, is the blogging functionality considered ready by you guys for deployment? | 19:44 |
| mhall119 | jono: I haven't been involved with the latest work, so I can't say | 19:44 |
| jono | mhall119, ok, so it sounds like we should check in with cjohnston and then see if he can basically get it to IS today ready for deployment | 19:46 |
| jono | would be great if IS can then deploy tomorrow | 19:46 |
| czajkowski | added the looc council to the blog feed if that's ok | 19:51 |
| jcastro | I feel like everything is a nail now. | 19:56 |
| jcastro | ANYONE NEED AN ETHERPAD? | 19:56 |
| jcastro | If you do, I got you covered! | 19:56 |
| czajkowski | jcastro: what ever you're on can I get a double dose please | 19:56 |
| mhall119 | czajkowski: did you put it on the wiki? | 19:56 |
| AlanBell | is there going to be a gui front end to ensemble? | 19:56 |
| jcastro | caffeine | 19:56 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: aye | 19:57 |
| czajkowski | mhall119: lotta blogs on there already | 19:57 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: I guess eventually a web ui would be possible | 19:57 |
| jcastro | "Deploy Etherpad" | 19:57 |
| jcastro | click | 19:57 |
| AlanBell | yeah | 19:57 |
| * czajkowski hugs jcastro | 19:58 | |
| czajkowski | he makes me smile | 19:58 |
| AlanBell | because at the moment all the stuff is "type these commands in a terminal window and . . ." by which point 80% of the target audience has given up and bought google apps | 19:58 |
| jcastro | well, the target audience right now is sysadmins | 19:59 |
| jcastro | AlanBell: or you just do it and resell it to normal people for money. | 20:00 |
| jcastro | but I demand a 1% fee for the idea | 20:00 |
| paultag | MONEY? MONEY IN FREE SOFTWARE? HOW DARE YOU. | 20:01 |
| paultag | I'm calling popey | 20:01 |
| AlanBell | so you have made cloud deployments as easy as "sudo apt-get install wordpress" | 20:01 |
| AlanBell | but not as easy as hmm, need to do some blogging, software centre, blog, search wordpress sounds cool, install, done. | 20:02 |
| AlanBell | needs to be appstore easy | 20:02 |
| jcastro | yeah | 20:03 |
| jcastro | I see what you mean | 20:03 |
| jcastro | but at this point in the lifecycle I would settle for "ensemble search wordpress" | 20:03 |
| * czajkowski cracks the whip on paultag and huats hows my etherpad filling our folks :) back online friday and it's gonna be going on the LD next week :D | 20:03 | |
| jcastro | right now you have to know where the formula is, snag it from version control, etc. | 20:03 |
| paultag | czajkowski: :) | 20:03 |
| AlanBell | I totally understand these things take time and you have to do the back end first | 20:03 |
| paultag | czajkowski: actually, let's sync later I'm EOD | 20:04 |
| czajkowski | paultag: am online my dear so we can flesh it out | 20:04 |
| jcastro | hey jono | 21:52 |
| jcastro | the day is here | 21:52 |
| jcastro | happy birthday dude | 21:52 |
| jcastro | http://blogs.houstonpress.com/rocks/2011/08/dubbing_the_unforgiven_20_year.php | 21:52 |
| czajkowski | sqeeeeee http://ticketing.southbankcentre.co.uk/find/music/gigs-contemporary/tickets/video-game-heroes-60710 | 21:53 |
| czajkowski | sooo looking forward to date night on friday :D | 21:53 |
| AlanBell | wow | 22:02 |
| jono | jcastro, wow | 22:04 |
| jcastro | if I lived in SF I would have done a listening party | 22:06 |
| doctormo | pleia2 or others: Do you guys know much about networking? should a traceroute take 3x1.5 seconds to get out from a lan to google? | 23:33 |
| AlanBell | sure | 23:34 |
| AlanBell | oh, no it should not, but it could do | 23:34 |
| AlanBell | mtr google.com should show it nicely | 23:35 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Trying to debug network issues, home internet, WRT54G running LuCi/OpenWRT | 23:35 |
| doctormo | Okay, mtr is really fast. but the traceroute tab in the network tools is really slow. | 23:36 |
| AlanBell | might be DNS lookups that are slow | 23:37 |
| AlanBell | anyhow, it is far too late here | 23:37 |
| AlanBell | night all o/ | 23:37 |
| AlanBell | doctormo: set 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server (that is google's fast DNS server) | 23:38 |
| doctormo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/678394/ vs http://imagebin.org/170335 | 23:38 |
| doctormo | AlanBell: Night \o | 23:39 |
| doctormo | OK It's not DNS, the dns servers having been twiddled between google's 8 and the pppoe defaults. | 23:49 |
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