[00:01] DBO: next thing you'll want to do rapid release unity every two hours and get rid of version numbers...and write it in gecko and js [00:02] Go and Haskell [00:02] (Haskell is the scripting language if that wasn't obvious) [00:02] if you said erlang , you would have hda me...but you chose poorly in your functional language... [00:02] even clojure would have gotten my attention [00:02] ;) [00:03] and I would like to move to hashes instead of version numbers, Unity "ae6b3e77fd3ff2765aa254f7e7d5cf0a" [00:03] DBO: neil will never take another vacationn [00:03] Oh and lastly, I think we should move on top of the BSD kernel [00:03] I hear good things [00:04] to support this move, I have begun adding direct BSD kernel calls into Unity [00:05] that's it - I'm moving to Arch [00:06] lol [00:25] port it to KDE & call it Kunity [00:26] lol [00:26] that sounds dirty [00:36] is the fact that the lock screen doesn't update when you change your wallpaper known? [00:55] TheMuso, hey, can I grab you today to do some a11y testing in unity-greeter? [00:57] robert_ancell: Certainly can. [00:57] TheMuso, when is good for you? [00:57] Any time from now till about 1, and then from 2 afterwards. Just let me know when you're ready. [00:58] TheMuso, let's go :) [00:58] Ok. [00:58] TheMuso, can you branch lp:unity-greeter, do the standard autogen.sh, configure, make etc, then run ./src/unity-greeter --test-mode [00:58] robert_ancell: Sure. [00:59] There is a menu with a few a11y options. In particular, I want to know if the screen reader reads out the right strings, and what other a11y features are of high importance for a greeter [00:59] I have high contrast, onscreen keyboard and screen reader [00:59] Ok. [00:59] I think we need dwell click and probably sticky keys. Not sure if anything else is needed (i.e. no need for magnifier as not many elements to see etc) [01:00] Right, and magnifier would need 3D acceleration anyway. [01:02] Ok what shoudl I be seeing? With Orca, I can see my hostname, a menu, a push button, and login... [01:02] So for example, I can visually see the indicators, but cannot seem to get to them with keyboard/mouse. [01:03] TheMuso, when you select a user, does it prompt with the right info (i.e. "Luke Yelavitch, enter password" or whatever is appropriate) [01:03] TheMuso, you can't get to them with the mouser? [01:03] mouser? [01:03] mouse?: [01:03] argh! [01:03] mouse [01:03] I can't see a user list. [01:04] Not visually, or with Orca. [01:04] can you send me a screenshot? [01:04] you're running with --test-mode right? [01:04] And when I use the arrow keys, the background changes... [01:04] Sure. [01:04] one sec. [01:05] I'll email... [01:06] sent [01:08] TheMuso, that is very weird... Can you send me stdout+stderr of the greeter? [01:08] robert_ancell: Sure, let me restart it. [01:09] TheMuso, oh also bzr pull again. I updated the high contrast them a little [01:09] oh ok [01:12] robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/677599/ [01:22] TheMuso, oh, you need to do a make install somewhere [01:22] Oh right. [01:25] robert_ancell: Right, I see what is supposed to happen. [01:25] robert_ancell: Ok, when using the arrow to change the user, the new user name is not being spoken. [01:26] Ok, its possible to get to the indicator menu with F10, nice. But only menu is spoken... [01:26] TheMuso, right, so it's a custom widget, so I'll need to add some ATK stuff. Any hints here would be nice [01:26] TheMuso, they're standard indicators afaik, is this the same behaviour as in the session? [01:27] robert_ancell: Not quite, F10 usually opens a menu in the session, whether it be the session indicator or something else... [01:27] robert_ancell: What kind of custom widgets are they? Is the password text entry a standard GTK text field? [01:27] my F10 key doesn't seem to do anything, either in unity or the greeter [01:28] TheMuso, the list of usernames is custom, and it embeddes a standard GtkTextEntry or GtkButton inside it [01:28] Ok, because when typing something in the password entry field and pressing backspace, I am not getting feedback that I am deleDdeleting something. [01:28] So, should the button have the text "Password for Luke", or should there be two elements? [01:29] yeah, I don't get the backspace, not sure why [01:29] But I get it when typing in xchat [01:30] Well, I see now that some users can just click log-in, i.e have no password. [01:30] yes [01:30] I am trying to work out in my head what I might want, given the way the greeter works visually. [01:30] And orca is saying "Login button". It should probably say "Log in as guest"? [01:31] Or should it say "Guest Account" "Login button" [01:31] or "Luke" "Password entry" [01:33] Thinking of gdm, the user would select the user with arrows, which would be spoken as the username only. They would then press tab to move to the password entry field. So, maybe something like "Password for user" [01:33] And we'd have to special case the other user, so that the user would know they needed to enter a username first. [01:34] In the case of users like guest with a login button, perhaps something like "Username" [01:34] Because the login button is being seen as a standard widget, so we need to make sure the user name is spoken first. [01:35] brb [01:35] TheMuso: real name would be better than just user name, right? [01:37] jbicha: Yes, of course. [01:37] robert_ancell: As for the atk side of things, let me have a look in accerciser and see what it sees in the greeter window. [01:37] ok [01:37] Is it obvious to a blind user to press up/down to switch users? [01:40] Probably not, but I don't know how we could convey that to the user. Gdm certainly didn't make it clear that there was a user list. [01:47] robert_ancell: As for the atk side itself, what you could do, is create an atk object that represents the label of the currently selected user, and its name get supdated when the user is changed. This object could then be set as the label for the password or login button object. [01:48] TheMuso, ok, cool. That's what I thought it should be. [01:48] TheMuso, The text needs to contain if it's a button or text entry right? [01:49] And should it be what the element is, or what it does. i.e. "Luke password entry" or "Enter password for Luke" [01:49] robert_ancell: I don't think you'd need that for the login button, but for the password entry field, yes, particularly if the user switches between two users that have a password set. [01:49] Probably enter password for user [01:51] TheMuso, what element of the ATK object do I set? name? [01:51] Name [01:52] and you probably want to set the role to LABEL [01:56] TheMuso, name=label? [01:57] i.e both set to the same? [01:57] TheMuso, ok pushed some changes. Sounds a little better that before [01:57] No, the name gets set to the text you want spoken, and the role should be set to ATK_ROLE_LABEL [01:57] I get a "frame". I'm guessing that's the main window? i.e. the greeter? [01:57] Very likely yes. [01:59] Sweet, that works really nice. [01:59] The only issue now is the other option. [02:00] That will need to be special cased, because that currently still says password even though its the username. [02:00] yes, why does it think it's a password field? [02:00] TheMuso, what should the main window be called? "Login Screen"? [02:00] Without knowing how the widget is created etc, I am not sure. [02:00] Yeah I guess thats ok. [02:01] TheMuso, ok, now it says "Login screen frame". Does that make sense? [02:01] Yep. [02:02] Or maybe even just login is better, since frame is known to be a window, whether it be screen sized or not. [02:02] For example, the Desktop is known as a desktop frame, even though its the size of the screen. [02:03] robert_ancell: One more thing. The button that opens the menu to choose the sessions needs to be labeled. [02:03] Something like "Sessions" [02:04] Or "choose session" [02:06] "Session options"? [02:06] hmm, the text entry really wants to be "password" [02:07] Session options works. [02:07] Hrm interesting re the password field... [02:08] I wonder if it might be a bug in GTK, i.e. once you set it to a password entry it remains that way [02:08] robert_ancell: I wonder if you were to change the role of the accessible object representing the text field to ATK_ROLE_LABEL. It may not be changed when the text field changes. [02:08] Yeah, or as above, the role is not being changed in the atk object. [02:09] nope, that didn't work [02:09] Damn. [02:09] I've tried explicitly setting it to TEXT and LABEL but no change [02:09] I think I'll just have two separate widgets [02:11] hrm ok [02:12] This is weird, now unity-greeter is not showing up in accerciser. [02:16] robert_ancell: I can't build unity-greeter http://paste.ubuntu.com/677625/ [02:16] TheMuso, I think it may be a bug in orca. GTK is correctly changing the role [02:16] robert_ancell: Ah, it may be an at-spi caching issue now that you mention that. [02:16] TheMuso, so, I should just ignore it? [02:17] A new orca is due out any time now, and supposedly has work-arounds to solve such issues. [02:17] jbicha, what version of valac? valac --version [02:17] robert_ancell: Yes, and I'll see what I can do about getting some folks looking at it upstream should the issue persist with a new upstream version of orca. [02:17] robert_ancell: oops, vala 0.12, let me fix that [02:18] jbicha, yeah, it probably required 0.14. I'll update configure.ac [02:19] robert_ancell: yup, works now with 0.14 [02:20] TheMuso, do you get a python process using 100% cpu using a11y sometimes? [02:21] robert_ancell: Yes, and its at-spi related, a fix is in the new upstream of at-spi2-core 2.1.90./ [02:21] TheMuso, ok, I've pushed changes for all the things you've asked for. Can you give it a run over now [02:21] yay :) [02:21] robert_ancell: Sure will do. [02:24] TheMuso, noticed one thing, how do I notify login failure messages? [02:24] robert_ancell: How are they presented to the user? [02:24] I mean visually? [02:24] TheMuso, the label above the password entry is changed to red and shows the message [02:24] robert_ancell: what do i need to do to see the userlist in testmode? because it's blank here too [02:24] Ok. Is there any way I can trigger a failure in the test mode? [02:24] In fact, that label could ask for anything, not just a password [02:25] jbicha, make install [02:25] TheMuso, The passwords are "password" in test mode [02:25] so anything else should cause an error [02:25] robert_ancell: oh I see how to trigger a wrong password. [02:25] And I see what happens visually. [02:26] robert_ancell: What if you simply change the name of the label's accessible object to the same text that is shown visually? [02:26] robert_ancell: I did make install, then I cd into the install location and ./sbin/unity-greeter --test-mode [02:26] TheMuso, will that trigger the screen reader? [02:27] jbicha, that should be it, can you send me the stdout+stderr [02:27] robert_ancell: hrm probably not, I guess the reason why going through the user list triggers it now is due to focus changes. [02:28] To map what happens visually, every time that label changes it should be read out [02:28] Right. [02:29] sudo nano t [02:29] And with the other option in the user list, entering a username and pressing enter doesn't speak password, even though the password prompt is the next one to be entered. [02:29] sudo pkill lightdm [02:30] robert_ancell: And why does onboard get loaded immediately on greeter load? [02:30] sorry, had some crashes with gnome-shell, back in Unity now [02:31] TheMuso, the other options speaks both for me [02:32] hrm... interesting. [02:32] I am running a partially upgraded at-spi stack here though, that *may* have something to do with it... [02:32] TheMuso, Yeah, I should probably make onboard load on demand [02:34] onboard now loaded on demand [02:34] ok [02:34] jbicha, any luck now? [02:35] TheMuso, do you know if anyone has asked the ubuntu-mono icon theme to make a nice a11y icon? The default one is still blue right? [02:35] robert_ancell: No I don't., [02:36] I need to find someone to whip one up or it's going to look u-g-l-y [02:36] Right [02:39] * robert_ancell goes hunting for lunch [02:39] robert_ancell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/677636/ [02:39] Yeah not a bad idea, won't be around from 1-2, and lunch needed before then. [02:46] for ambiance, can't you just borrow /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/apps/preferences-desktop-accessibility-symbolic.svg [02:46] which I believe is used for GNOME Shell's a11y menu [03:06] jbicha, awesome, Thanks! [03:07] robert_ancell: how come the password box doesn't use • as the invisible_char ? [03:07] jbicha, the design had the asterisk instead [03:07] oh ok, just checking if it was intentional [03:07] maybe I'll go bug the design guys :-) [03:08] jbicha, you have no users listed right? can you send a screenshot? [03:08] is the greeter design publicly posted? [03:10] robert_ancell: http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/8582/workspace1040.png [03:11] jbicha, no, unfortunately [03:12] thanks, maybe I'll just open a bug report to make sure [03:19] jbicha: Did you remember to make install somewhere? That was the mistake I made. [03:19] robert_ancell: mpt reported bug 834878 , he speaks for design, right? [03:19] Launchpad bug 834878 in unity-greeter "Unity greeter password field uses old-fashioned asterisks" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834878 [03:20] TheMuso: yes, I make installed and then ran from the install location [03:20] jbicha, that's the problem with a non-public design, he probably hasn't seen it! [03:21] (I don't care what they are personally) [03:21] it's not a big deal to me but the little things add up eventually [03:22] robert_ancell: I think the designs should be publicized when the code is released, or if not at least when it becomes default [03:22] jbicha, I think that's the plan, but I'm not sure what the process is [03:23] I'll send an email to them, because it is starting to become a problem [03:24] robert_ancell: thank you, it's easier to tell whether something is missing or by design & thus whether to talk to the developer or the designers [03:25] yeah, and the current greeter is not 100% of the design due to time considerations [03:31] robert_ancell: when I run --test-mode, the indicators aren't in greeter mode but normal mode [03:32] jbicha, yeah, I don't know why that happens. You'll have to ask mterry as he did the indicator work [03:32] thanks mterry! [03:32] jbicha, I just pushed a change that stops the missing list bug you've got - it seems to happen when it can't find logo.png [03:38] robert_ancell: thanks, 2 more questions, F10 isn't working, not sure if that's Unity's fault [03:38] and keyboard navigation of the indicators doesn't wrap around [03:38] jbicha, thanks. please file bugs [03:38] will do [04:14] Good morning [04:17] jbicha: only the uploader should do the dch -r/debcommit -r parts, otherwise you already claim an upload where none has happened; the sponsor might want to add a few extra things or corrections, or the main branch might have gotten other changes in between, or the package might not yet be ready for uploading [04:18] jbicha: if your branch already tags a release, the sponsor needs to manually set it back to UNRELEASED, untag it, etc. [04:25] pitti: ok thanks and good morning [04:26] I got away with a bunch of uploads without doing that & not all sponsors expect to see UNRELEASED but I've switched over now [04:50] Morning pitti. [04:50] hey TheMuso [04:51] TheMuso: thanks for the quick at-spi fix [04:51] pitti: np [04:51] TheMuso: have you been on holidays last week? [04:51] pitti: yes I was, I said that yesterday. :) [04:52] TheMuso: ah, welcome back then! hope you had a good time? [04:52] TheMuso: sorry, must have missed it; release stress.. [04:52] certainly did [04:52] understood. [05:39] good morning [05:44] bonjour didrocks [05:44] guten morgen pitti! How are you? [05:45] didrocks: not bad, thanks! [05:45] didrocks: sorry for the oneconf bug; I should have looked at it first [05:45] before I assigned to you [05:45] pitti: I was just kidding, no worry :-) [05:45] I guess it needed a full path [05:45] didrocks: no, you were right, it was my fault [05:45] didrocks: but I guess it's moot now, it can use GI now [05:45] pitti: anyway, it's pure pygi now for that part :) [05:45] right [05:46] (and rather "needs to use") [05:46] pitti: oh btw, I fixed some other crashes (most of them are due to dbus not answering), and as you have more dbus foo than I have: [05:46] for bug #834394, how do you deal with that normally? [05:46] Launchpad bug 834394 in oneconf "oneconf-service crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834394 [05:47] making a retry if we receive no answer, like adding it to a timeout and try it again [05:47] (it's not vital, but necessarry for launching the syncing process, so the daemon can work without getting the sso, and try to get it again later for syncing) [05:47] didrocks: hm, the usual reason for that is not a real timeout, but because the backend crashes [05:47] didrocks: i. e. [05:47] - frontend makes d-bus call [05:47] - backend gets it, processes, crashes [05:48] - frontend doesn't get response back and complains with above error [05:48] i. e. the traces from the frontend are usually rather useless [05:48] you need the actual backend crash [05:48] ok, so in this case, ubuntusso is crashing [05:49] but I still have to handle that gracefully I guess [05:49] (as the ubuntu sso backend is a dbus activated service… I can't just do a retry) [05:50] didrocks: we currently have a bug in desktopcouch/couchdb that throws "not authenticated" exceptions, may it be that? [05:50] pitti: I don't use anymore desktopcouch/couchdb, it's all ubuntu sso and direct/manual syncing to webcatalog [05:52] ah, ok [05:53] pitti: also, just a last question, any idea what can happen there? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/77297035/Traceback.txt [05:53] I don't sync the dbus service died here :) [05:54] hm, I've never seen that one [05:54] it might be another way of saying "the backend has crashed"? [05:54] hum, which backend in this case? [05:55] call_blocking() sounds like it's doing a d-bus call? [05:55] to get dbus.SessionBus().list_names() [05:56] oh, wow [05:56] NFC, I'm afraid :/ [05:57] pitti: ok, no worry, right now, I'm just exiting the daemon in this case, I'll see later if I need to do a wait/retry thing [05:58] pitti: thanks for looking at it! :-) [05:58] I just found that real timeouts are rather rare [05:58] didrocks: can you reproduce that crash, or did you just see it on a bug report? [05:59] I just saw it on bug #826687 but with 3 duplicates [05:59] Launchpad bug 826687 in oneconf "oneconf-service crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Disconnected: Connection was disconnected before a reply was received" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/826687 [06:00] didrocks: which pygobject do you have running, 2.90 from the PPA, or 2.28 from oneiric? [06:00] didrocks: I just fixed a grave bug in jockey which only happens with 2.28 [06:01] pitti: 2.28 from oneiric [06:02] ok, so that's not it then [06:42] good morning everyoner [06:42] hey chrisccoulson, good morning [06:42] hi pitti, how are you? [06:42] quite fine, thanks! [06:46] hey chrisccoulson! [06:46] hmm, no seb128 this week to remind me about the reminder [06:46] * pitti reminds-reminds himself [06:46] hi didrocks, how are you? [06:46] oh right, I reminded seb128 when you were not there, but didn't remind about reminding you :) [06:47] chrisccoulson: excellent thanks! saw the nice improvment from oneiric in two weeks. Overall impression is that it looks snappier here [06:47] didrocks, yeah, it's looking pretty good [08:04] G'Morning! [08:04] hey Sweetshark [08:18] pitti: Heya. [08:19] morning [08:20] hey rodrigo_, how are you? [08:20] hi pitti, I'm fine, and you? [08:20] pretty well, thanks! [08:20] pitti: I got the build on ppc to finished (failed) -- it took agaes because the job was killed at least twice (or davis was rebooted). But since I not have a completed build I have decent change to fix the stuff (using partial/incremental builds). [08:22] Sweetshark: oh dear; sounds painful! [08:22] Sweetshark: so is it the same libgcc workaround as for armel? doko mentioned something about this yesterday === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|afk [08:32] pitti: yes, it pretty much is. I prevented it to break by not trying to unprelink it, which prevented the early buildbreaker in external or sal. but then it broke in instsetoo_native because it still wanted to pack it. [08:34] pitti: I am now again copying it to the solver (both linker script and the dynlib), so it will be packed again. The packing is still wrong as it does not allow cross-distro closed source development of c++ extensions. trying that on armel is doomed anyway (as of now). [08:35] hum, the OneConf change is really really not trivial… [08:36] didrocks: do you need some help with the GI porting? [08:37] pitti: it's not really GI related, but the new design landed and it mixes the installed and OneConf view, which introduces a lot of changes (as there is no more main treeview) [08:52] rodrigo_, ping [08:54] rodrigo_, please have a look at the folks merge proposal [08:57] why is there no gir1.2-folks package ? [08:57] ricotz, ^ [08:57] at least for folks 0.6 in oneiric [08:57] xclaesse, no body cared about until now [08:57] ricotz, ok [08:58] ricotz, for me it is because gnome-shell does not build [08:58] rodrigo_, thanks, this depends on an eds update to [08:58] rodrigo_, https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/evolution-data-server/ubuntu/+merge/73243 [08:58] ricotz, hmm, folks or e-d-s? [08:59] xclaesse, i know ;) [08:59] rodrigo_, both [08:59] ah ok :) [08:59] the folks gir building depends on present gir of eds [08:59] ricotz, ah that's what you are discussing as well :) [09:00] rodrigo_, if you are doing them please grab them on the desktop-pad [09:01] ricotz, didn't work earlier, let me try loading the etherpad now... [09:01] ah, it works now! [09:01] rodrigo_, i also had vala prepared ;) [09:02] ricotz, I submitted vala 0.13.3 last night [09:02] ricotz, do you need anything newer than that? [09:02] ricotz, btw if you build latest gnome-shell, make sure to have latest gjs too (1_29_17) [09:02] rodrigo_, i saw that, but it has been in the pad for a while ;) [09:02] otherwise it will crash [09:03] ricotz, right, sorry, it didn't work for me yesterday, I was getting all the time a 'proxy error' ???? [09:03] xclaesse, alright [09:03] rodrigo_, no problem [09:08] urgks [09:09] * Sweetshark forgot -nc on "dpkg-buildpackage [09:14] aka --reduce-universe-heating [09:27] * Sweetshark now creates some more entrophy for the universe... [09:37] if a package is waiting for approval in the queue, I can still submit another version, right? [09:41] rodrigo_: yes [09:42] pitti, ok [09:42] njpatel: is it already known that the dash is too big for a netbook screen? (1024x600) [09:42] it's cut off at the right and at the bottom [09:42] there's plenty of unused space at the left, and also at the top/bottom [09:43] pitti, nope, is there a bug for that? [09:43] should be an easy enough fix [09:44] njpatel: I'll report it then [09:44] pitti, thanks and please assign to me [09:46] njpatel: ah, bug 825370 [09:46] Launchpad bug 825370 in unity "new dash does not fit a normal netbook screen" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825370 [09:47] hm, why doesn't LP find any "Neil", "Neil Patel" or "njpatel" when I try to assign.. [09:48] ah, now [09:48] seems it doesn't work for the upstream task, just for the ubuntu task [09:50] meh, pressing the power button still immediately shuts down now [09:50] I tought we already fixed that a while ago? [09:51] Pici, [09:51] woops [09:51] pitti, no idea, the new person search stuff hasn't really worked for me [09:51] njpatel: I assigned the ubuntu task to you, anyway [09:52] thanks [09:54] rodrigo_: I'm still quite confused why GNOME moved the keyboard settings out of "keyboard" into "region and language".. [09:54] pitti, bug #? [09:54] ah, ignore me [09:54] huh? aptitude tells me the ftpmaster@ubuntu.com key on de.archive.ubuntu.com is invalid? === balthus is now known as xaba [09:59] pitti, design decision :) [10:00] pitti, in 3.1.90 there is a link in the keyboard panel to the region one [10:00] so at least now there is a connection between the 2 [10:02] rodrigo_: but as we don't use the region one, I guess we need yet another solution? [10:02] rodrigo_: design decision> yeah, why would someone ever look for the keyboard layout in the keyboard settings.. [10:04] DBO: hm, pressing ctrl+alt on a brand new install of the beta-1 images pops up the alt+tab window switcher [10:04] pitti, I guess we can patch the keyboard panel to be linked with the language-selector, rather than the region panel [10:04] actually, I think it's the alt+` one [10:04] rodrigo_: but language-selector doesn't offer a keyboard layout [10:05] right [10:05] rodrigo_: I think there has been a bug about not being able to change the layout === Chipaca` is now known as Chipaca [10:12] can a package in main recommend a package in universe? [10:12] (i'm assuming yes, but thought i'd check) [10:13] Chipaca, I think it can, yes === MacSlow|afk is now known as MacSlow [10:48] Chipaca: I didn't think that was allowed [10:48] jbicha: ok, I'll follow up. [10:50] Chipaca: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-archive.html#s-main [10:51] jbicha: darn [10:51] so either demote to suggests or put in for a main inclusion request [10:55] probably do a MIR, if it's not too late [10:57] need to talk with wibblymat first, though [11:03] pitti, can you upload what there is in lp:~ubuntu-desktop/vala/ubuntu, I seem to not have permissions and it's not in main, so not sure what to do to get permissions, adding it to a seed? [11:16] rodrigo_: sure [11:17] rodrigo_: it's already uploaded though: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=1 [11:17] pitti, yes, but it was rejected, wasn0't it? [11:18] oh, maybe ken uploaded it [11:23] * ogra_ hugs whoever switched to a sane screensaver lock dialog === MacSlow is now known as lunch-break === lunch-break is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:02] * rodrigo_ lunch [12:15] yay, got my new mobile phone [12:15] pitti - QUICK, install angry birds on it! [12:16] chrisccoulson: yeah, that didn't run on my G1 === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [12:17] pitti - oh, perhaps they should have delivered your new phone after the beta release ;) [12:18] hehe [12:20] rodrigo_: Hello, I just updated my g-c-c MP, so it's ready for you to merge and upload. https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/gnome-control-center/langfix/+merge/72792 === njpatel is now known as njpatel|lunch [13:04] great, davis just rebooted _again_. Any reason for that machine to reboot twice a day? Microsoft patch day? [13:06] * Sweetshark would like to see _one uninterupted compile at least .... [13:09] oh great... gwibber is refusing to compile... === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:50] GunnarHj, g-c-c 3.1.90 is ready in the ubuntu-desktop branch [13:54] rodrigo_: I know, and I have updated the MP, so you can just merge and upload. [13:54] GunnarHj, ok [14:00] chrisccoulson, hey, why is my firefox not starting on arm ? [14:01] GunnarHj, there's a memory leak, isn't it, in line 123 and beyond of the merge proposal [14:01] GunnarHj, the commented g_free (name) [14:07] ogra_, i've no idea, i don't have access to any arm hardware ;) [14:07] i either need hardware or a crystal ball [14:07] we really nbeed to change that [14:07] yeah [14:08]