| lfaraone | cjwatson: I'm actually having trouble uploading the fix to Debian, dpkg-source has been dieing on their end but not on mine. I'll reupload and see what happens... | 00:14 |
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| cjwatson | lfaraone: if you still have trouble, mail me the logs and a pointer to the source package and I'll see what I can do | 00:15 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: sure, thanks! | 00:16 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:00 |
| philipballew | morning dholbach | 07:01 |
| dholbach | hi philipballew | 07:03 |
| iulian | Morning. | 08:08 |
| nigelb | Morning iulian | 08:12 |
| hrw | hi | 08:44 |
| hrw | uploading packages to universe requires approval now? | 08:44 |
| cjwatson | hrw: we can only freeze the whole archive or none | 08:45 |
| hrw | sure | 08:46 |
| cjwatson | so yes, any upload to Ubuntu requires approval at the moment, although universe uploads are typically waved through if they look correct and don't get in the way of CD builds | 08:46 |
| hrw | ok, whom with I should talk then? 6 packages of cross compilers in my queue | 08:47 |
| cjwatson | just upload them | 08:48 |
| cjwatson | you don't need to ask for approval in advance, and in fact generally we'd prefer you didn't | 08:48 |
| hrw | ok | 08:48 |
| cjwatson | they'll sit in the queue where we have tools for reviewing them | 08:49 |
| hrw | ok. uploaded 2 of them - with next ones I prefer to wait for first ones to build. | 08:50 |
| hrw | maybe should add versioned build dependencies | 08:50 |
| Rhonda | Hmm | 09:41 |
| Rhonda | I wonder what the regulations are for universe in Ubuntu, especially with respect to build-depends | 09:42 |
| Rhonda | Hmm, and nvidia-settings is also in universe … | 09:43 |
| Rhonda | Shouldn't it be in multiverse, when it's in contrib in Debian? | 09:43 |
| RAOF | Rhonda: I think that's one of the differences in policy between Debian and Ubuntu; IIRC nvidia-settings is GPL and doesn't require non-free build-dependencies, so it's in Universe. | 09:49 |
| cjwatson | *in general* Debian contrib/non-free map to Ubuntu multiverse, and main+universe should be closed under depends+build-depends | 09:50 |
| cjwatson | however sometimes we take a different decision about what's free | 09:50 |
| cjwatson | often a mismatch is just a mistake though | 09:51 |
| Rhonda | I'm currently digging into the conky issue, to be honest. | 10:03 |
| Rhonda | Which was wrongly moved to main in Debian with flawed reasoning, and I wanted to check if that might affect Ubuntu too. | 10:04 |
| Rhonda | But it seems to have always been in universe in ubuntu, so … | 10:04 |
| Rhonda | I'm uncertain anyway why nvidia-settings is stuck in contrib in Debian. Because it requires the nvidia X driver to be useful? | 10:05 |
| directhex | Rhonda, indeed | 10:05 |
| Rhonda | I really would like to see such information stored in the copyright file in a clear voice. | 10:05 |
| Rhonda | I stumbled upon it because I noticed it as debian backports ftp master and had to reject it, in case you wonder. :) | 10:06 |
| cjwatson | Rhonda: an instruction to that effect was added to Policy 12.5 a few years back | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | debian-policy 3.8.0.0 | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | Packages in the _contrib_ or _non-free_ archive areas should state in | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | the copyright file that the package is not part of the Debian | 10:10 |
| cjwatson | distribution and briefly explain why. | 10:10 |
| Rhonda | Unfortunately "should" parts are seldomly followed … | 10:11 |
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| cjwatson | indeed, but gives you additional justification for a bug report :-) | 10:20 |
| hrw | bug 835743 - can someone take a look? | 12:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 835743 in simple-ccsm (Ubuntu Oneiric) "simple-ccsm version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/835743 | 12:25 |
| hrw | debdiff attached | 12:26 |
| jtaylor | hrw: is the debian-changes-0.8.2-0ubuntu2 intentional? | 12:27 |
| hrw | ouch | 12:28 |
| hrw | moment | 12:28 |
| hrw | will recreate | 12:28 |
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| hrw | uploaded | 12:30 |
| hrw | forgot to drop one file before debuild -S | 12:30 |
| jtaylor | changing from pycentral to dh_python2 requires a ffe | 12:32 |
| hrw | it is still pycentral not dh_python2 | 12:33 |
| hrw | dh_pycentral | 12:33 |
| jtaylor | you removed dh_pycentral | 12:33 |
| hrw | it is called anyway - probably by cdbs/python-distutils.mk | 12:33 |
| jtaylor | ups yes there is a PYTHON_SYSTEM above | 12:35 |
| hrw | I am looking at 'arm-porting-jam' buglist and this was first entry which looked easy enough for <30 minutes work. | 12:36 |
| jtaylor | if you want something hard try finding the gcc bug causing pari to ftbs :) | 12:37 |
| hrw | I already have ~40 bugtabs opened to check | 12:39 |
| hrw | ruby, mono, java, othercrap | 12:39 |
| jtaylor | hrw: langpack.mk was removed in favor of dh_translations, but I don't see it called for this one | 12:39 |
| hrw | I checked with dh_translations and without - package was same | 12:40 |
| jtaylor | yes also just cheked the result is the same | 12:41 |
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| === med_out is now known as medberry | ||
| hrw | bug 833880 is in multiverse - simple build-dependency fix | 13:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 833880 in mush (Ubuntu Oneiric) "mush version 7.2.5unoff2-25.1ubuntu1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833880 | 13:04 |
| jtaylor | hrw: is patch 02 necessary? also the desktop file created should be removed in clean | 13:04 |
| hrw | jtaylor: it was done that way before so I preferred to not change it | 13:05 |
| hrw | but patch 02 was part of debian diff | 13:05 |
| jtaylor | yes but it gets overwritten by the build latter | 13:06 |
| lfaraone | cjwatson: I forwarded you the error and a link to the dsc. | 13:06 |
| lfaraone | . | 13:06 |
| jtaylor | it appears it was added by accident | 13:07 |
| jtaylor | due to the incomplete clean target | 13:07 |
| cjwatson | lfaraone: ok, thanks | 13:08 |
| hrw | jtaylor: like installed_files in my first debdiff probably | 13:08 |
| hrw | jtaylor: v3 attached | 13:20 |
| jtaylor | please base the debdiff on the package in the archive, else it seems fine | 13:31 |
| jtaylor | also its not installable due to compiz breaks on it | 13:34 |
| jtaylor | but that should be an upstream issue | 13:35 |
| hrw | arhg. changelog this time | 13:37 |
| jtaylor | and rules | 13:38 |
| hrw | too many things at once | 13:39 |
| hrw | jtaylor: v3 is against archive version | 13:50 |
| jtaylor | hrw: does not apply cleanly, e.g. rules has no langpack line and changelog also rejects | 13:53 |
| hrw | k | 13:54 |
| hrw | v4 version applies | 13:59 |
| jtaylor | thx | 14:18 |
| nigelb | Laney / tumbleweed - around? | 15:27 |
| tumbleweed | nigelb: hi (I think Laney is on holiday) | 15:27 |
| nigelb | tumbleweed: Ah! | 15:27 |
| nigelb | I was looking for suggestions on what to do about challenges. | 15:27 |
| nigelb | It looks like it needs further planning for next cycle. | 15:28 |
| nigelb | But if you want to start that discussion now over email, I can do that | 15:28 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, it does, we skimmed over it a lot at UDS | 15:28 |
| nigelb | I won't be at UDS, so someone will have to take it up :) | 15:28 |
| joru | what happens when a bug reported by apport is being marked as private? | 17:50 |
| joru | and why? | 17:50 |
| joru | did i click somewhere i shouldnt have clicked? | 17:50 |
| Rhonda | security related, potential sensitive information? | 17:51 |
| joru | ok, well i'm the noob so i've got no idea =) | 17:51 |
| joru | just know that i didnt click somewhere i shouldnt have then | 17:51 |
| jtaylor | all crash reports by apport are marked private by default | 17:54 |
| jtaylor | they could contain private information in tracebacks and coredumps | 17:54 |
| jtaylor | after successful retracing the coredump will get removed and you can check the attachments | 17:55 |
| jtaylor | when there is nothing private in there, set it to public | 17:55 |
| astraljava | Hey guys, got a silly little question. One of our team members (ubuntustudio-dev) just pushed a commit to a branch (ubuntustudio-menu). Am I to expect a new version in the repositories sometime soon, or does the freeze effect that now? | 18:05 |
| astraljava | effect could possibly be affect, sorry, English is not my native language. :) | 18:05 |
| joru | jtaylor: ah that figures. then i understand | 18:08 |
| joru | jtaylor: so if i've found a bug when running a live-cd what could be private? | 19:56 |
| joru | jtaylor: maybe a password supplied to the install-process? | 19:57 |
| joru | jtaylor: otherwise i cannot see what is private for me in a live session | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | probably nothing, but making bugs private is default behavior | 19:57 |
| joru | jtaylor: although i hope not passwords are logged in cleartext | 19:57 |
| jtaylor | if its your bug you can make it public yourself | 19:57 |
| joru | jtaylor: okidoki, well i'll switch it from private to public | 19:57 |
| joru | thanks for pointing that out | 19:58 |
| handschuh | hi | 20:46 |
| handschuh | what if a package that is already in the repos changed its way of versioning the packages (i.e. past: date, present: version number) | 20:46 |
| handschuh | this causes problems since the package manager things the older package with the date is newer than the one with the version number | 20:47 |
| DktrKranz | handschuh: you have to add an epoch (e.g. 1:version) | 20:48 |
| handschuh | I see, thank you! | 20:48 |
| DktrKranz | you're welcome | 20:48 |
| handschuh | another qq: the revu page has a 'nuke' link on archived packages. If I click on that, I am redirected at the main page but the package is still there. Is the real nuke delayed? | 20:52 |
| DktrKranz | I think that's limited to sponsors | 20:53 |
| DktrKranz | (or rewievers) | 20:53 |
| handschuh | sponsors are the people that upload the packages, right? | 20:54 |
| handschuh | so in my case, I am trying to nuke packages that I uploaded some time ago | 20:54 |
| DktrKranz | I can do it for you, if you want | 20:55 |
| DktrKranz | which packages? | 20:55 |
| handschuh | "jaolt" | 20:55 |
| handschuh | and "libauvitoapiaxis-java" | 20:55 |
| DktrKranz | done | 20:59 |
| handschuh | thanks a lot! | 21:00 |
| handschuh | hmm I am still able to access the packages | 21:01 |
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