[01:56] <hads> ajmitch: Nice one!
[01:56] <hads> Working well?
[01:58] <ajmitch> took a bit of effort, had to upgrade firmware to 3.2.4.4, but I have native ipv6 at home with snap now
[01:59] <ajmitch> enabling the passthrough & getting it working for ipv4 was pretty easy, just had to run pppoeconf
[02:02] <hads> Cool, native 6 is good.
[02:03] <ajmitch> yeah, I was surprised to see that snap were making it available for all, rather than an opt-in public trial
[02:04] <ajmitch> so I guess it may make some sites a little faster, since I previously had a tunnel active through he.net
[02:05] <ajmitch> otherwise I doubt it'll change a lot :)
[02:09] <hads> Yeah, I have a couple of tunnels, can't remember which one is active at the moment.
[02:09] <hads> Native would be nice but I won't go back to snap
[02:16] <ajmitch> other ISPs will get there soon, I hope
[02:18] <hads> Yeah, shouldn't be too long before v6 over VDSL is here.
[02:19] <ajmitch> which ISP are you with?
[02:19] <ajmitch> hardest part at the moment seems to be having dsl modems/routers that actually support ipv6
[02:21] <hads> Been with Telecom for the last 18 months as they were the only ones I could find to provide decent International bandwidth.
[02:21] <hads> Was with Snap before that who had issues they weren't prepared to fix.
[02:22]  * ajmitch hasn't noticed many issues with snap
[02:23] <hads> Neither did I for a couple years, then one day my connection went from 1MB/s down to 30kB/s. Snap said they were aware of it and didn't consider it an issue.
[02:23] <ajmitch> that's a pretty big issue
[02:23] <ajmitch> I've usually found the snap support to be helpful & quick to respond
[02:23] <hads> Indeed. Held out for a couple months trying to resolve it but had to leave eventually.
[02:24] <ajmitch> understandable
[02:25] <ajmitch> I wouldn't want to put up with those sort of speeds
[02:25] <hads> Quote from a "Senior Technical Specialist"; "There is a number of factors building up to what you are experiencing, and I regret to inform you that we consider this as normal behavior for our network. We are looking into this, but don't consider it an outage at this point."
[02:25] <ajmitch> speeds can be a bit limited to the UK & sometimes the US, but not usually dropping down that badly
[02:26]  * ajmitch usually gets far better speed at home on snap than at work
[02:28] <locodir-user> hi all
[02:28] <locodir-user> r there ANYONE HERE?
[02:30] <ajmitch> yes, there are people here
[02:31] <locodir-user> hi
[02:31] <ajmitch> hello
[02:31] <locodir-user> i'm new to this community
[02:32] <locodir-user> can u help me out
[02:33] <ajmitch> what did you need help with?
[02:33] <locodir-user> well i want to join the bug squad
[02:33] <locodir-user> i have followed all the steps
[02:33] <locodir-user> and have applied there
[02:34] <ajmitch> OK
[02:35]  * ajmitch doesn't know if anyone here has worked closely with the bugsquad as such
[02:35] <locodir-user> k
[02:35] <locodir-user> and what are all the projects u are working now
[02:35] <locodir-user> here
[02:36] <ajmitch> we don't really work on projects as a group, individual people here do some work on ubuntu, but there's no loco-wide projects
[02:36] <locodir-user> kk
[02:37] <locodir-user> kk
[02:38] <ajmitch> what are you waiting on from the bugsquad?
[02:39] <locodir-user> approval
[02:39] <locodir-user> i have applied for the membership
[02:39] <locodir-user> so,waiting for their approval
[02:39] <ajmitch> you have a mentor?
[02:40] <locodir-user> nop
[02:41] <locodir-user> should i have a mentor?
[02:42]  * ajmitch is just reading through https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved & it's one of the steps
[02:43] <ajmitch> I'm assuming that's what you meant when you said you followed all the steps
[02:43] <locodir-user> yup
[02:43]  * ajmitch hasn't kept up with the changes to the bug squad & other stuff over the last few years
[02:51] <snail> if anyone knows a bright-young-person looking to get a start, we're hiring http://www.seek.co.nz/Job/library-technology-assistant-part-time/in/wellington-wellington-central/20525055
[02:53]  * ojwb didn't realise the treaty of waitangi had employment-related provisions
[02:54] <snail> ojwb: it's binding on the crown, and for these purposes we're part of the crown
[02:55] <ojwb> ah, seems a little less strange then
[02:55] <ojwb> (still quite strange though)
[02:55] <ajmitch> right, but what obligations are there that VUW has to meet under the treaty?
[02:56] <snail> ajmitch: that would be a political matter
[02:56] <ojwb> probably depends which version you read...
[02:56] <snail> but lets just say that no one around here pays for courses in te reo Māori and elated subjects
[02:57] <snail> ojwb: if you can read other than the English one, we almost certainly have a job opening for you...
[02:57] <ajmitch> heh
[03:00] <ojwb> snail: sadly not, though i don't really need a job
[19:58] <chilts> morning
[20:08] <snail> morning
[20:09] <ajmitch> morning
[20:23] <Atamira> morning
[21:32] <hads> Morning.
[21:32] <hads> Anyone running oneiric yet?
[21:33] <ajmitch> only in a VM at the moment
[21:33] <hads> I just got a replacement for my failed drive and am considering what to install.
[21:33] <hads> (laptop)
[21:39] <mwhudson> it's nearly beta right, oneiric probably isn't _too_ scary
[21:40] <ajmitch> I'll probably update at home, I want to see how unity has changed
[21:40] <hads> Yeah, I've normally upgraded at beta level in the past, not for the last couple releases though.
[21:40] <mwhudson> i'm tempted to upgrade soon, on the possibly optimistic assumption that unity & compiz & so on are less ****ed in o
[21:40] <hads> heh
[21:40] <hads> I think I'll give it a crack, good time to try.
[21:41] <mwhudson> thumper: hey, does unity work at all well with multiple monitors in o yet?
[21:41] <thumper> mwhudson: no idea as I don't use multiple monitors
[21:41] <ajmitch> surprising, compiz is using < 300MB of RAM on natty for me at the moment
[21:41] <thumper> mwhudson: however njpatel does
[21:41] <thumper> so it should be at least usable
[21:41] <mwhudson> ok
[21:43] <hads> Hmm, need a closer mirror
[21:44] <ajmitch> nz.archive.ubuntu.com just had a 404 for me, even after apt-get update
[21:44] <ajmitch> so it's not syncing 100% again
[21:46] <hads> I'm grabbing an ISO at the moment anyway.
[21:46] <hads> May as well test the install
[21:47] <hads> Not sure I want to wait an hour and a half to get it though.
[21:49] <ajmitch> that's quite a slow download
[21:49]  * ajmitch doesn't have a recent ISO to share from a NZ server though
[21:52] <hads> Yeah, they all seem to be far away.
[21:52] <mwhudson> there is that thingy that downloads packages from a local mirror and then uses rsync to make it into an iso right?
[21:53] <ajmitch> jigdo? that might work for the alternate iso
[21:53] <ajmitch> but not for the normal desktop cd where it's one large compressed filesystem
[21:54] <mwhudson> ah right
[22:05] <ajmitch> thumper: I'm impressed that the unity dash blur even works in virtualbox :)
[22:05] <thumper> the live blur has been switched off for now
[22:06] <thumper> due to poor performance on some GPUs
[22:06] <ajmitch> oh?
[22:06] <ajmitch> what is it using then?
[22:06]  * ajmitch just updated to what's currently in the archive
[22:07] <thumper> the blur is still there
[22:07] <thumper> but it is no longer updated at 25-30 frames/s
[22:07] <ajmitch> right
[22:08] <thumper> if you were playing a video under the blur, it was blurred
[22:08] <thumper> now I think it takes a snapshot
[22:08] <ajmitch> I can see how that could kill performance
[22:22] <ibeardslee> morning
[23:27] <hads> Yay, one ISO downloaded.
[23:28] <ibeardslee> oneieric?