[00:00] <arrrghhh> that fixed it tho, thanks.
[00:00] <qman__> that's something you'd do to work around encrypted homes
[00:00] <qman__> or other weird cases where the home directory isn't available
[00:00] <arrrghhh> i think i was just being difficult
[00:00] <arrrghhh> and trying to do things on my own
[00:00] <arrrghhh> and i didn't understand the gravity of what i was doing ;)
[00:00] <arrrghhh> i'm slowly starting to grasp this whole pub/priv key auth.
[00:01] <arrrghhh> not sure why it's taking me so long to wrap my head around it, usually this stuff isn't so difficult for me.
[00:01] <arrrghhh> but i do appreciate the help, i am now auth'ing at least from my work PC to my server.  now i just need to add the rest & disable password-based auth.  thanks again!
[00:19] <smoser> Daviey, bug 833783 is your boot failure
[00:19] <Daviey> smoser: ta
[00:20] <smoser> it seems like a legit race in initramfs to me.
[00:35] <davros-_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/setting-up-dhcp3-server-10-04-4-a-899460-new/
[00:35] <davros-_> any suggestions?
[00:38] <StevenR> davros-_: fix one problem at a time?
[00:39] <davros-_> duh
[00:40] <StevenR> well, start by fixing eth1, then fix dhcpd, then the other bits that don't work
[00:41] <davros-_> eth1 isn't rally an issue, that ifconfig is after a reboot
[00:42] <davros-_> unless eth1 is supposed to hold its settings after reboots
[00:43] <StevenR> if you want to run dhcpd and give out IP addresses from that interface, then it's going to need to
[00:43] <davros-_> ahhh ok kinda thought that too
[00:44] <StevenR> you can't have a dhcp server on a dynamic IP, it's just not going to work
[00:44] <StevenR> or a "no-ip" interface
[00:45] <davros-_> how would eth1 be setup to hold an ip
[00:46] <StevenR> by editing the interfaces file appropriately
[00:46] <StevenR> /etc/network/interfaces or similar
[00:46] <davros-_> INTERFACES="eth1"
[00:47] <StevenR> ?
[00:47] <StevenR> where's that from?
[00:48] <davros-_> oops that's from dhcpe interfaces I belive
[00:48] <StevenR> well. Fix your interfaces file for starters :)
[00:49] <davros-_> lol
[00:50]  * StevenR goes to bed
[00:50] <davros-_> you bee around Wednesday during the day StevenR?
[01:42] <CluelessPerson> hey all
[01:42] <CluelessPerson> for some reason I can't connect to samba now
[02:06] <Arrick> hey all... How easy is it to install lts 10.04 on an hp proliant ml350?
[02:13] <JadedJacob> hi, has anyone ever used the ddrescue program to recover files from a failing hard drive.
[04:16] <ryoohki> i notice that after i set a raw partition to be crw-rw-rw- it reverts to crw-rw---- .
[04:19] <ryoohki> i  there  a seperate process or file in /etc controlling this?
[04:20] <ryoohki> actually, i menat brw-rw-...
[06:50]  * RoyK += 0xc0ffee
[07:36] <jamespage> jcastro: it did but it may be broken as I've not spent time updating to support service exposure - I'll look today
[08:08] <trapmax> How do i fix these: "File descriptor 15 (socket:[6111]) leaked on lvremove invocation. Parent PID 20901: /bin/bash" notifications, when running a script from crontab? If i manually run it, there is no notification
[08:39] <smoser> so how do we look for beta ?
[08:41] <Daviey> smoser: 'OK' .. not perfect.. but 'OK'
[08:41] <Daviey> :)
[08:42] <smoser> is there any reason why we would not want to start ISO testing for ec2 images ?
[08:42] <Daviey> I don't think there is anything blocking that.. Have you asked utlemming the same?
[08:46] <jamespage> lynxman: around?
[08:51] <lynxman> jamespage: indeed :)
[08:51] <jamespage> lynxman: and how are you today?
[08:52] <lynxman> jamespage: very good sir, enjoying my extra week in London due to natural disasters ;)
[08:52] <lynxman> jamespage: and you?
[08:52] <jamespage> lynxman: good thanks - refreshed after a week off
[08:53] <jamespage> so I'm patch piloting today and came across bug 820936
[08:53] <lynxman> jamespage: oh goodie
[08:54] <jamespage> lynxman: I was a little confused - the bug is marked fixed released - merge proposal still outstanding - is it still needed?
[08:55] <jamespage> looks like it is to me - but wanted to check with you first
[08:56] <lynxman> jamespage: oh yes, my mistake on that one, needs to be merged
[08:56] <jamespage> lynxman: OK - leave it with me and I will review
[08:57] <lynxman> jamespage: lovely, can't be in better hands
[08:57] <jamespage> flattering but probably untrue :-)
[08:57] <smoser> utlemming wont wake for a while, but last night things looked in order.
[08:59] <lynxman> jamespage: It is true in my head ;)
[08:59] <lynxman> smoser: congratulations on getting the +1 from cody, I'm officially impressed
[08:59] <smoser> woowoo.
[08:59] <CluelessPerson> hey guys
[09:00] <CluelessPerson> what's the program used to remotely manage sql databases?
[09:00] <smoser> i would think most of that is due to the vast bug list output which is a result of Daviey's script that scrapes archive update mailing lists.
[09:00] <smoser> CluelessPerson, there are probably lots.  'mysql' is one.
[09:01] <CluelessPerson> I have my server running mysql
[09:01] <CluelessPerson> and I don't remember the name of the remote editor I had
[09:01] <CluelessPerson> You could monitor, configure, alter and setup permissions and users for the databases
[09:07] <smoser> phpMyAdmin perhaps
[09:11] <Daviey> smoser: Are you core now? (minus the admin)
[09:13] <smoser> well i have 5 "+1" and no -1. so i think i match quorum
[09:17] <lynxman> smoser: Daviey: oh can I have a copy of the script?
[09:19] <a_ok> how do I upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10?
[09:19] <a_ok> distupgrade does not seem to be available anymore
[09:23] <maxb> It ought to be
[09:24] <maxb> what do you mean when you say "not available" ?
[09:27] <Daviey> lynxman: script?
 i would think most of that is due to the vast bug list output which is a result of Daviey's script that scrapes archive update mailing lists. <-- that
[09:28] <smoser> lynxman, i'll find it on 2 requests
[09:29] <smoser> a.) you add crawling of the archive and storing in local database
[09:29] <smoser> b.) you add a query mechanism for seeing a person's activity during an arbitrary time frame
[09:30] <Daviey> lynxman: You really don't want it.
[09:30] <Daviey> it's crap.
[09:30] <smoser> its useful crap
[09:30] <Daviey> I'm actually wondering ultimate debian database exposes this now anyway
[09:30] <smoser> and it will be more useful and less crap when he adds my two feature requests
[09:31] <Daviey> smoser: I'm scared to touch it. RoAkSoAx touched-it-last, which means he is the new maintainer
[09:32] <smoser> lynxman, your silence indicates you agree to my demands
[09:32] <smoser> https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/+junk/search_uploads
[09:32] <lynxman> smoser: I was having coffee, but I do agree :)
[09:32] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/677822/
[09:33] <smoser> that is my local diff, so i had nothing useful
[09:33] <smoser> Daviey, do we have a UDD for ubuntu?
[09:34] <Daviey> smoser: Some Ubuntu data is now posted there.
[09:34] <Daviey> Thanks to the ever awesome Laney.
[09:35] <Daviey> smoser: bah, who needs a shebang
[09:35] <smoser> Daviey, yeah, i see that.
[09:35] <smoser> http://udd.debian.org/schema/udd.html doesn't seem to have changelogs though.
[09:35] <smoser> or did i just miss it.
[09:36] <smoser> Daviey, if search_uploads could incrementally crawl archives, and stored data in a db, it would not be crap.
[09:37] <lynxman> smoser: Daviey: you both were right, the script is crap, very useful crap though
[09:37] <Daviey> smoser: bah, seems you are correct.
[09:37] <smoser> lynxman just couldn't pass up a free pass at calling Daviey's work 'crap' (i wouldn't have been able to either)
[09:37] <Daviey> smoser: Yeah, make a web frontend for it; and expose an API for people to query.
[09:38] <Daviey> Could call it 'Launchpod' and have python bindings called launchpodlib
[09:39]  * smoser reboots, hoping beyond hope, that this time when he logs in compiz wont leak memory like its going out of style.
[09:39] <Ursinha> good morning folks
[09:39] <lynxman> Ursinha: bom dia
[09:40] <Ursinha> lynxman: bon dia :)
[09:40] <linocisco> how to build mail server for windows clients? I have installed [mail server] option during fresh installation. then dpkg-reconfigure postifix. and then telnet localhost 25 fine. and then ??
[09:40] <lynxman> Daviey: sorry for having a free go at your script, I like it though :)
[09:40] <linocisco> mail clients will be outlook express or outlook
[09:42] <Daviey> lynxman: no, it's dirty. It was under a no-free licence to start with.. :)
[09:42] <lynxman> Daviey: I'm afraid to touch it now
[09:42] <lynxman> Daviey: although it's never too late to create the GDaBPL
[09:42] <lynxman> Daviey: (Give Daviey a Beer Public License)
[09:44] <Daviey> crack on... the reason for it to be non-free was to allow me to not show it in public :)
[09:44] <Daviey> Then RoAkSoAx moaned.. so i let him have it.
[09:44] <Daviey> Thankfully smoser is the new maintainer, as he patched it last.
[09:45] <lynxman> Daviey: oh boy, so if I patch it I'll be the new maintainer?
[09:45] <Daviey> yus
[09:47] <smoser> local diffs do not count.
[09:47] <smoser> that just makes me a leach
[09:48] <lynxman> 5lol
[09:48] <lynxman> smoser: you cheat
[09:48] <lynxman> smoser: or shall I say... core-cheat
[09:56] <Daviey> lynxman: It does count, sorry - it's derived works. However, don't worry, as you will have the shortest tenure yet.
[09:57] <a_ok> Ok there are to many conflickting guides out there
[09:58] <a_ok> I did a edit of the sources file (from lucid to karmic) and apt-get update; apt-get upgrade failes
[09:58] <jamespage> lynxman: not sure switching to _default_:80 actually resolves the bug report TBH - http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_rewrite.html#vhosts
[09:58] <Daviey> a_ok: That is generally a bad idea.
[09:59] <a_ok> Daviey: yeah I noticed. luckaly it failed on fetching so I sould be able to revert it
[09:59] <lynxman> jamespage: it actually does, I had this problem myself in the past
[09:59] <jamespage> hmm
[09:59] <a_ok> Daviey: how do I get rebuild my repository cash?
[09:59] <Daviey> a_ok: So Lucid is still supported, Karmic is End Of Life.
[09:59] <a_ok> Daviey: sorry ment maverick
[10:00] <a_ok> upgrading
[10:00] <Daviey> a_ok: I'm confused.. you are/were(?) upgrading from what to what?
[10:00] <jamespage> lynxman: I think that might be true for apache < 2.2
[10:00] <a_ok> upgrading from lucid to maverick
[10:01] <a_ok> and than to 11.4
[10:01] <jamespage> but I can't get globally defined rewrite rules to apply unless I add the options to each virtualhost as described above
[10:01] <a_ok> I got a better upgrade guide now but I need to restore my apt stuff
[10:01] <lynxman> jamespage: option 2 is create a global VH and import, which I've done as well
[10:01] <a_ok> apt-get udate fails
[10:01] <lynxman> jamespage: nonetheless is good practice to have _default_:80 instead of *:80
[10:01] <Daviey> a_ok: sudo apt-get update | pastebinit
[10:02] <a_ok> Daviey: its because I edited the sources.list and did a succefull apt get update with the maverick repositories
[10:03] <jamespage> lynxman: I agree that _default_ is good practice as it make virtualhosts behave nicely with each other  - just not sure we are actually addressing the bug
[10:03] <jamespage> or that we should be
[10:03] <lynxman> jamespage: I see your point, I still think it should be merged and then a word of caution given towards that practice?
[10:08] <Daviey> In general, increasing the delta with Debian is bad karma.
[10:12] <jamespage> lynxman: assuming that Daviey's comment was directed at our conversation then I don't think we should merge this change.
[10:12] <lynxman> :(
[10:12] <jamespage> rewrites are notorious in my experience for creating unexplained server behaviour
[10:12] <lynxman> alright, reject the merge then
[10:13] <jamespage> and although I think that it makes sense to switch to _default_ we should try a push this to Debian first IMHO
[10:13] <jamespage> it does not provide enough value to risk maintaining an Ubuntu delta
[10:14] <lynxman> jamespage: I do agree
[10:15] <jamespage> lynxman: coolio - lemme updates bugs/merge proposals etc... inline with our conversation - would you like to submit a bug to Debian to request the change?
[10:16] <lynxman> jamespage: never did :)
[10:19] <trapmax> anyone have experience with confluence's scroll wiki pdf exporter -plugin?
[10:21] <trapmax> and more specifically its problem with scandinavian alphabet
[10:24] <linocisco> hi
[10:25] <a_ok> Daviey: sorry got called away
[10:25] <linocisco> I tried dpkg-reconfigure postfix. in one step, i am being asked that root and postmaster mail recipient entry
[10:25] <linocisco> do I need to enter or leave that blank ?
[10:25] <a_ok> Ill be back later
[10:31] <linocisco> hi
[10:33] <linocisco> how to copy data from server to flash drive ? rsync -avP server flashdrive ?
[10:57] <ersi> linocisco: If you want something even simpler.. just mv or cp data there... it's a regular block device
[10:57] <ersi> linocisco: but rsync is a good idea, it's made for robustness and error checking
[11:01] <smoser> linocisco, most likely rsync -avP is going to fail for you
[11:02] <smoser> unless you've formated your flash drive with ext3 or some sane filesystem rather than FAT32
[11:02] <linocisco> smoser: mine is with FAT32
[11:09] <linocisco> hi. telnet example.org 25 is not working. it sid could not resolve. name or service not known
[11:09] <Daviey> smoser: You fixed sbuild to not need root, right?
[11:13] <linocisco> hi
[11:13] <linocisco> please let me know fix for my question
[11:19] <ersi> linocisco: And if you'd do a "nslookup example.org" what are your output?
[11:26] <linocisco> ersi:  I got dns server address of my computer.    x.x.x.x#53
[11:26] <linocisco> ersi: *** server can't find example.org
[11:28] <ersi> Yeah, not strange at all actually. Since it's a system that doesn't have internet connectivity. You got two options; Either add 'example.org' with the machines local IP or localhost to /etc/hosts or your local DNS server or; Don't use example.org
[12:11] <zul> morning
[12:29] <smb> morning
[12:29] <smb> (is over)
[12:30] <smb> zul, Any progress on your xenification? :)
[12:31] <zul> not yet..i been blocked by an ncurses issue when rebuilding xen
[12:32] <hggdh> Daviey: good morning
[12:33] <smb> zul, I guess I should not update my o-server then as it seems to still work... :-P But I guess all it would gain is some company while stepping from one pitfall into the next...
[12:33] <Daviey> hggdh: Hello!
[12:34] <zul> smb: it would be so much better if you could do it in a vm
[12:34] <hggdh> Daviey: a very good afternoon for you, and we can chat whenever you want
[12:36] <Daviey> hggdh: Okay.. give me 15 mins?
[12:36] <Daviey> then lets cook!
[12:36] <smb> zul, Well kvm->xen-dom0->xen-pvm sort of works but slooow... multi-stage hvm unfortunately not (without much cheating)
[12:36] <zul> right
[12:37] <smb> zul, And of course its HVM which is broken beyond belief...
[12:37] <zul> smb:  blah
[12:38] <hggdh> Daviey: certainlu
[12:54] <airtonix> yay for chrome crashing when recieving clipboard paste data from across synergy screens
[12:55] <airtonix> i was about to paste a critical pastbin url , now my enthusasim has died
[12:56] <airtonix> http://dpaste.com/605165/ << ok so I'm on a terminal using ssh to a ubuntu 10.10 server and i start typing : cd sr <then tab>
[12:56] <airtonix> suddenly, errors
[13:00] <jamespage> jcastro: etherpad-lite formula now fixed - needed a few changes to support 1.0 which was release a few weeks ago + some open-port fu.
[13:00] <airtonix> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/bash-dev-null-permission-denied-and-growing-size-813604/
[13:04] <Daviey> zul: Can you try to generate an RSA key pair on your pandaboard?
[13:04] <Daviey> See if that works on it's own?
[13:05] <Daviey> zul: It might be a good bug to throw over to racb :)
[13:05] <zul> racb?
[13:05] <Daviey> say hello racb. :)
[13:06] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/677961/
[13:06] <racb> hello!
[13:06] <zul> hey racb
[13:06] <zul> you start today?
[13:06] <racb> I do!
[13:06] <zul> muahahhahahaaha
[13:07] <Daviey> zul: Ah super, a bug against openssl with strace would probably help then :)
[13:07] <Daviey> zul: you don't have a ~/.rnd do you?
[13:08] <Daviey> and $HOME is valid?
[13:08] <zul> nope
[13:08] <zul> oh wait i do have a .rnd
[13:09] <Daviey> zul: try rm'ing that
[13:09] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/677962/
[13:12] <zul> still segfault
[13:13] <Daviey> zul: and you have a valid $HOME ?
[13:13] <Daviey> (env)
[13:13] <Daviey> zul: Oh wait
[13:13] <Daviey> that second pastebin worked?
[13:13] <zul> it looks like it
[13:14] <Daviey> Fix Released \o/
[13:16] <zul> still segfaults though
[13:16] <zul> lemme try something
[13:26] <zul> Daviey: nope still busted
[13:26]  * Daviey blames smoser.
[13:34] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, awake?
[13:34] <smoser> kirkland, ?
[13:35] <smoser> maybe lynxman knows.
[13:35] <smoser> if i use https://launchpad.net/~orchestra/+archive/ppa/+packages
[13:35] <smoser> where am i supposed to get distro-info
[13:35] <smoser> (on natty)
[13:36] <lynxman> smoser: good question, having a look
[13:37] <smoser>  ubuntu-orchestra-provisioning-server : Depends: distro-info but it is not installable
[13:37] <lynxman> smoser: hah, is that only avail in Oneiric?
[13:37] <smoser> yes
[13:37] <lynxman> smoser: so looks like this is a bug
[13:37] <lynxman> RoAkSoAx is carrying most of the Orchestra work now though
[13:38] <lynxman> while he's not fighting hurricanes
[13:38] <smoser> ppa:udt-developers/daily seems to be ok
[13:44] <smoser> bummer. i tlooks like that ppa is busted.
[13:44] <smoser> ubuntu orchestra is depending on some cobbler stuff too
[13:44] <smoser> andreserl, you used https://launchpad.net/~orchestra/+archive/ppa/+packages lately?
[13:45] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah what's up
[13:45] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: maverick/lucid should ftbfs in the ppa
[13:46] <smoser> natty builds, but cobbler is expecting ubuntu-cobbler-import
[13:46] <smoser> and orchetra wants distro-info
[13:46] <smoser> which is not available in archive
[13:51] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: ok, will look into that, thanks for pointing me out
[13:54] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, and now, trying to import an oneiric, cobberl is moaning at me that os-version is not one of dapper -> natty
[13:54] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah I'm gonna upload cobbler's oneiric to that PPA for natty
[13:56] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, there is broken (inverted) logic in cobber-ubuntu-import on creation of ISO_DIR
[13:56] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/677993/
[13:58] <zul> Daviey: ok its fixed now
[13:59] <zul> Daviey: python-greenlet was causing it to segfault on arm
[14:00] <Daviey> zul: how/why?  Have a patch?
[14:00] <Daviey> Was it the monkey patching?
[14:00] <zul> Daviey: its arm specific...ill upload it after the beta
[14:00] <zul> im up to 3 patches so far
[14:01] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: k
[14:11] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, even after i add 'oneiric' to 2 places so that it is a heard of release, it complains to me
[14:11] <smoser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/678005/
[14:12] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: where are you adding it
[14:12] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: did you start cobbler?
[14:12] <smoser> why?
[14:12] <RoAkSoAx> err re-start
[14:12] <smoser> yes after adding oneiric
[14:13] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678007/
[14:15] <smoser> yeah, thats what i did
[14:15] <smoser> but after restart it failed like i pated
[14:15] <smoser> paste
[14:15] <smoser> d
[14:15] <smoser> arrgh
[14:15] <smoser> anyway
[14:16] <smoser> so that worked on the enxt run. i dont know why.  now, if all i did was install orchestra-provisioning-server, should i be able to tftp boot if my dhcp server has this server as 'next-server'?
[14:16] <smoser> i answered 'no' to the dhcp/dns question
[14:16] <smoser> Daviey, did you have a bug link for the possible loss of amis on canonistack?
[14:16] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: if you answered no, you still need someone that gives dhcp, and that dhcp server should tell that the PXE is cobbler
[14:17] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: so, yes
[14:17] <smoser> ok.
[14:17] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: it should still be able to pxe
[14:18] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, do you know how i tell dd-wrt to do next-server equivalent?
[14:19] <smoser> ah. never mind.
[14:19] <Daviey> smoser, i do not remember deleteing the one mentioned here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/831704
[14:19] <smoser> dhcp-boot=pxelinux.0,tfptd-hostname,tftpd-ip
[14:24] <zul> smoser: ping when you do cloud-publish-tarball is the architecture hardcoded?
[14:24] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: yeah it is easy
[14:24] <smoser> zul, no.
[14:24] <zul> smoser: ok good
[14:25] <smoser> you can pass it, or it guesses based on name
[14:25] <smoser> but it might say GTH if you tell it to do arm
[14:25] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: add to dns masq dhcp-boot=pxelinux.0,,<ip-iof-pxe>
[14:25] <smoser> yeah, thats what i did.
[14:25] <robbiew> Daviey: any sign of Robie?
[14:25] <smoser> i think that i'm missing a kickstart or something that is causing that pasteibin that i showed, RoAkSoAx
[14:26] <smoser> zul, it looks to me like it will just pass whatever you give it on trhough (after changing amd64 -> x86_64)
[14:27] <Daviey> robbiew: Yes.. robbiew meat racb
[14:27] <Daviey> meet*
[14:27] <robbiew> ah ha
[14:27] <racb> hello!
[14:27] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: are you sure it didn't import the ISO? it might have imported it but still showing the error
[14:27] <racb> Actually I'm trying to be rbasak
[14:28] <Daviey> bah, racb was better :)
[14:28] <rbasak> Only my launchpad account is stuck on racb
[14:28] <rbasak> And shell accounts are rbasak now
[14:28] <smoser> i think it did import but is showing the error, you're right
[14:28] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, but in kickstarts in the web ui, i dont see a 'nqi'
[14:28] <smoser> should i? or , how do i?
[14:28] <smoser> as that is really why i'm doing this
[14:28] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: there should be either a ubuntu-server.seed or a ensemble.preseed
[14:29] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: both are Non Questions Asks preseed
[14:29] <rbasak> My attempt at clarity in this matter might have just failed completely :-/
[14:30] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: cobbler on orchestra's PPA should be published soon, it already finish building
[14:30] <robbiew> rbasak: changing LP ID /should/ be easy, unless you have PPAs
[14:31] <rbasak> robbiew: I have PPAs
[14:31] <rbasak> (some of which are public)
[14:32]  * rbasak thought everyone would have PPAs!
[14:32] <kernelpanicker> Can anyone suggest something for spam to use on 10.05 lucid server with postfix/dovecot/mailman?
[14:33] <robbiew> rbasak: ah...then we can still change it
[14:33] <robbiew> just takes some LP magic ;)
[14:34] <robbiew> once you get @canonical.com address and access to the internal irc/wiki, we can get that done
[14:34]  * robbiew recently changed his from robbie.w to robbiew ;)
[14:37] <rbasak> robbiew: I'm sorted with those, but won't that break published PPA URLs?
[14:37] <robbiew> rbasak: nope...they do some sort of cut-and-paste magic
[14:37] <robbiew> I have a public PPA
[14:37] <robbiew> hmm
[14:37] <rbasak> what with an HTTP 301 or somethign?
[14:38] <robbiew> though I wonder if they do a redirect
[14:38] <robbiew> I think you can keep the old id for that purpose
[14:38] <robbiew> I dunno...we can just ask and see what happens
[14:38] <robbiew> it's just software ;)
[14:38] <rbasak> :)
[14:46] <smoser> RoAkSoAx, so sorry to be annoyhing
[14:46] <smoser> but how will this avoid the install loop ?
[14:46] <smoser> i dont see a "turn off install late command"
[14:46] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: no worries ;)
[14:46] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: uhmmm what preseed are you using?
[14:47] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: there's a snippet for that
[14:48] <smoser> i was just looking at /etc/cobbler/ubuntu-server.preseed
[14:48] <smoser> shouldn't that be the default behavior ? or are we expecting to primarily ship this to system builders that want to test burn-in
[14:48] <smoser> :)
[14:49] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: if that's so, we would have to ship that snippet in cobbler
[14:49] <RoAkSoAx> smoser: but yes, I think it probably should. gonna add it
[14:57] <zul> hallyn: ping when you are around
[15:01] <hallyn> zul: i'm around
[15:02] <zul> hallyn: cool....are you still testing the libvirt FFE
[15:04] <hallyn> zul: I'm still working on a setup where I can do so yes :)
[15:04] <hallyn> I tried on an ec2 instance, but with the current libvirt half of the tests failed
[15:04] <zul> hallyn: heh ok thats all i need to know.
[15:05] <hallyn> why do you ask?
[15:05] <hallyn> if you want to try running the qa-regression-tests on your end, and beat me to it, that'd be great
[15:08] <zul> hallyn: ill have a debdiff i need included for arm
[15:08] <hallyn> ok
[15:09]  * hallyn should finally be able to get his pandaboards working, just needs to pick up some cables at frys
[15:09] <FKman> hello all, i have problem with installing ubuntu 11.04 Server on Xen. Can anybody help me with ?
[15:09] <zul> hallyn: ill grab it from your ppa and send you a debdiff is that ok?
[15:10] <zul> hallyn: 0.9.4 ftbfs for me just as a heads up
[15:12] <hallyn> zul: sounds great, thanks
[15:12] <hallyn> was the ftbfs in configure with some libxml error that didn't make sense?
[15:12] <hallyn> (I got that building git HEAD last week by hand)
[15:12] <zul> hallyn: testsuite failure
[15:13] <hallyn> feh
[15:34] <CluelessPerson> how do you setup an easy and temporary port forward?
[15:35] <CluelessPerson> as in  sudo ufw portforward 9001 192.168.1.1:80?
[15:35] <Ursinha> CluelessPerson: it depends.. if your computes is accessed directly, you can use the old but gold iptables command line
[15:35] <Ursinha> or that
[15:35]  * Ursinha goes google ufw
[15:35] <jdstrand> actually, ufw doesn't do port forwards via the cli yet
[15:35] <CluelessPerson> sigh
[15:35] <CluelessPerson> alright
[15:35] <jdstrand> you can do them with the ufw-framework
[15:36] <CluelessPerson> I'm at my brother's house
[15:36] <jdstrand> see 'man ufw-framework' which has examples for port forwarding and where to do it
[15:36] <CluelessPerson> SSHing to my server, behind a router.
[15:36] <Ursinha> hm
[15:36] <CluelessPerson> I need to access the router firewall and change it
[15:36] <Ursinha> CluelessPerson: you might be able to do that via web interface
[15:36] <Ursinha> the router one
[15:37] <Ursinha> redirecting router ports, not your computer
[15:38] <Ursinha> CluelessPerson: have you tried that?
[15:43] <CluelessPerson> no
[15:44] <CluelessPerson> Ursinha  problem is the web interface isn't enabled for remote
[15:44] <CluelessPerson> only lan
[15:44] <CluelessPerson> Ursinha  sorry for long replay
[15:44] <CluelessPerson> reply
[15:46] <CluelessPerson> anyway
[15:46] <CluelessPerson> I have to sleep
[15:50] <kernelpanicker> where does spamassassin log in ubuntu lucid?
[15:50] <patdk-wk> no where
[15:51] <patdk-wk> unless your using spamd, then mail.log
[15:51] <kernelpanicker> ok... that's why I couldn't find it... how does one monitor what it's doing?
[15:51] <kernelpanicker> ok thks
[15:51] <patdk-wk> monitor? it's a client program when you run it, it tells you what it did
[16:01] <Daviey> Server Team meeting starting in #ubuntu-meeting now
[16:06] <airtonix> sweet! haven't restarted and /dev/null is yet again unwritable by anyone but root
[16:06] <airtonix> awesome :>
[16:08] <b0nghittr> would it be possible for the server team to contact Adobe and help them officially support Ubuntu server for their Adobe Flash Media Server? atm they only support RHEL and centos, and needs tweaking to work properly on ubuntu. it would be very helpful.
[16:12] <RoyK> airtonix: pastebin `ls -l /dev/null`
[16:13] <airtonix> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/605266/
[16:14] <RoyK> airtonix: that's wierd
[16:14] <RoyK> airtonix: it should be 666
[16:14] <RoyK> airtonix: which ubuntu release is this?
[16:14] <airtonix> RoyK: 10.10
[16:14] <RoyK> airtonix: check /etc/udev.d
[16:14] <RoyK> erm
[16:15] <RoyK> /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:15] <airtonix> RoyK: i found that on a previous occasion this returned the /dev/null to a usable state for users : http://dpaste.com/605269/
[16:15] <airtonix> checking udev now
[16:15] <RoyK> airtonix: no need to recreate the device - a chmod should do well
[16:16] <airtonix> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/605271/
[16:16] <RoyK> grep for null in there
[16:16] <airtonix> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/605272/
[16:17] <airtonix> RoyK: http://dpaste.com/605274/
[16:18] <RoyK> could it be this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/63031
[16:23] <airtonix> RoyK: yes it seems to describe my situation as i read the comments
[16:24] <RoyK> the quick-and-dirty fix is to add chmod 0666 /dev/null to /etc/rc.local
[16:24] <airtonix> hoho
[16:25] <RoyK> the _good_ fix is to find out whatever changed the /dev/null perms :P
[17:01] <lynxman> Daviey: SpamapS: RoAkSoAx: smoser: Have you guys seen this? Trying to install Oneiric server daily (2011-08-26) into an HP DL360 http://lynxman.net/oneiric-ko.png
[17:02] <smoser> no. but it obviously went read-only.
[17:02] <smoser> theres probably more info further up
[17:02] <smoser> if you're in a sane virtual machine, you can shift pageup
[17:02] <lynxman> smoser: it's a bare metal thorugh iLO
[17:02] <SpamapS> sounds like he's on a DL360 :)
[17:02] <smoser> any way to get more console?
[17:03] <SpamapS> boot to recovery shell.. investigate
[17:03] <smoser> that bit only tells us what i told you.
[17:04] <lynxman> SpamapS: k,will go that way :)
[17:04] <lynxman> smoser: trying to get more console, although this environment is pretty limited
[17:05] <SpamapS> the older iLO's actually had a better interface than newer ones
[17:05] <SpamapS> they would scrape the VGA text mode perfectly into an SSH session
[17:05] <SpamapS> newer ones just use serial
[17:07] <lynxman> SpamapS: yeah, bit of a pain :/
[17:08] <Ursinha> frak, forgot the mumble thing
[17:10] <RoyK> the newer iLOs have crapware and requires an additional license to do the job properly
[17:12] <lynxman> frak, the message goes away too fast :(
[17:12] <Daviey> lynxman: on a call :/
[17:29] <hallyn> jdstrand: when I run qa-regression-test against regular libvirt on ec2, I get 8 failures.  expected?
[17:38] <crass> anyone know if a simple c program to test for 64-bit registers (which I assume means I can run 64-bit progams)?
[17:44] <jdstrand> hallyn: last upload I did there were no failures. I don't do it in ec2 though...
[17:45] <jdstrand> hallyn: actually, that shoudl be the last version I tested in oneiric. I don't recall which that was
[17:45] <jdstrand> hallyn: can you paste? I will try a run now
[17:49] <SpamapS> crass: I doubt uname would lie to you.. 'man 2 uname'
[17:55] <crass> ok, so I believe then that I'm running in 32-bit mode, can I just install a 64-bit kernel to be able to run in 64-bit mode (my processor supports it)
[18:04] <hallyn> jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678188/
[18:05] <jdstrand> hallyn: I think you don't have everything installed
[18:05] <jdstrand> hallyn: try: sudo ./test-libvirt.py setup-all
[18:06]  * jdstrand is running it now
[18:06] <jdstrand> (the whole thing, not just setup-all :)
[18:09] <hallyn> jdstrand: d'oh, didn't know about that one :)  thanks, trying
[18:09] <crass> hallyn: is there a reason not to run your libvirt packages for Oneiric on Natty?
[18:10] <hallyn> crass: there may be, actually,
[18:10] <hallyn> crass: not bc of my changes, but bc of the change to use libnl3
[18:10] <crass> ok, glad I checked. What package is now using libnl3 (not familiar with that lib)
[18:10] <jdstrand> hallyn: it's new (as of several-quite a few weeks). I got tired of all the setup
[18:11] <crass> hallyn: also, would it be possible to get the ubuntu-virt libvirt package to build successfully?
[18:12] <hallyn> crass: libvirt itself...
[18:12] <hallyn> i didn't know it was failing
[18:12] <crass> (I think it just needs libxen-dev on the build machine)
[18:12] <crass> hallyn: do you know what version of libvirt that changed in? 0.9.4?
[18:13] <hallyn> it's a change specific to the current oneiric version of libvirt's packaging.  (if you mean libnl3)
[18:13] <hallyn> it's not in upstream git yet
[18:14] <hallyn> libxen-dev is in build-depends, so it should be there for the ppa build...
[18:15] <crass> hallyn: I don't know, that's what it says here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-virt/+archive/ppa/+build/2651532 :(
[18:17] <hallyn> crass: ok.  i hit 'retry build' as that may have been a transient error, but it's kind of an old version relative to oneiric so it might be worht trying again with ubuntu11
[18:17] <hallyn> oh, no
[18:17] <hallyn> crass: libxen-dev doesn't exist before oneiric :)
[18:17] <hallyn> so the packaging has to be updated for the ppa
[18:18] <crass> hallyn: I don't understand, if libxen-dev didn't exist before oneiric, then why would those packages complain about needing them? since they are before Oneiric
[18:19] <crass> is it an easy fix?
[18:19] <hallyn> i can't get to it today, but should be simple
[18:19]  * crass is not familiar with the ppa build process
[18:19] <hallyn> crass: the package says "i need libxen-dev'.
[18:19] <crass> oh, so those packages are updated to build for oneiric?
[18:21] <crass> hallyn: I also wanted to get your opinion on the state of your spice packages, is it worth trying to use them at this point? ie are the better than the normal libvirt stuff from natty?
[18:22] <hallyn> crass: hopefully the debian spice packages will get merged soon.  I"d just wait.
[18:22] <hallyn> 'better' depends on what you mean
[18:22] <crass> better performance and user experience
[18:22] <hallyn> spice just provides better remote graphics, if you have high bandwidth to support it
[18:22] <hallyn> if users want video, then yes.
[18:23] <crass> ok, so its mainly for doing video and 3d-graphics, but otherwise you won't notice much difference?
[18:23] <hallyn> right
[18:23] <koolhead17> hi all
[18:23] <koolhead17> RoAkSoAx: hey there
[18:23] <crass> awesome, looks like I don't need to mess with it then, thanks
[18:24] <crass> however, I would very much appreciate a repo with the latest (or as close to the current releases as I can) libvirt and qemu for natty
[18:25] <koolhead17> RoAkSoAx: " d-i preseed/late_command string "  is  awesome, i did all the ip address and other done with it, instead doing anything with dhcp server natively
[18:26] <crass> hallyn: would it be any easier and/or could you provide natty builds for your virt repo? (It has qemu 0.15 and libvirt 0.9.3)
[18:28] <hallyn> no, it wouldn't
[18:28] <crass> haha, ok, I should look into setting up my own ppa
[18:28] <hallyn> here lemme just try s/libxen-dev/libxen3-dev/ and pushing to ubuntu-virt
[18:29] <crass> hopefully its that simple
[18:29] <hallyn> did qemu-kvm in that repo build?
[18:29] <hallyn> well it's probably behind anyway, so i'll push that too
[18:30] <hallyn> only for natty right now, if you need lucid pls ping me on that
[18:30] <crass> naw, just natty for me
[18:30] <adam_g> Daviey: i finished up that cobbler-enroll work @ lp:~gandelman-a/+junk/cobbler-enroll . it does everything the original did, and should be easily extended to meet orchestras needs.
[18:30] <adam_g> hggdh: ^
[18:33] <jdstrand> hallyn: ok, I had one failure do to a virtinst change
[18:33] <jdstrand> hallyn: path was changed. I'll fix and commit
[18:34] <hallyn> jdstrand: is that this one:
[18:34] <hallyn> FAIL: test_virt_install_location (__main__.LibvirtTestVirtinst)
[18:34] <jdstrand> yeah
[18:35] <hallyn> cool
[18:35] <hallyn> next to try the candidate :)
[18:35] <hallyn> jdstrand: say, while i have your ear, can you think of any reason why sshd, during a connect attempt, would fail setgid(0) = -EPERM ?
[18:37] <jdstrand> not otoh. is it confined in some way? (MAC, etc) it needs CAP_SETGID
[18:37] <hallyn> no, capsh --print shows root has that...
[18:38] <hallyn> ok, thx
[18:38] <Daviey> adam_g: great stuff!  I'll grok that shortly.
[18:38] <jdstrand> these things use to be able to fail under resource pressure iirc
[18:38] <jdstrand> hallyn: ^
[18:38] <hallyn> i was wondering that
[18:38] <jdstrand> you'd know better than I, but I thought that got fixed lately
[18:39] <jdstrand> I don't know off-hand if that is in oneiric. I wonder if the fix isn't as robust as it should be
[18:40] <hallyn> doesn't ring a bell.  and no OOM messages in syslog.  But, bumped memory limit by a fact of 10, maybe it'll help
[18:42] <hallyn> crass: both pushed.  will take awhile to build i assume
[18:43] <philipballew> how would i stream video files on my desktop to my laptop.
[18:43] <philipballew> to make my own youtube basically
[18:45] <crass> hallyn: thanks a mil, hopefully that will fix the build
[18:52]  * genii-around slides Tm_T a congratulatory beverage
[18:54] <jdstrand> hallyn: fyi, this is what I was thinking of: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git;a=commit;h=72fa59970f8698023045ab0713d66f3f4f96945c
[18:54]  * Tm_T thanks, bows, and feel very honored and humble
[19:02] <hallyn> jdstrand: well tbh i'm not sure what ssh is doing makes sense (pointing to a possible configuration problem)
[19:03] <hallyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/678233/
[19:10] <jdstrand> hallyn: weird. nothing is jumping out at me. mand setgid says: The calling process is not privileged (does not have the CAP_SETGID capability), and gid does not match the real  group  ID  or  saved  setgroup-ID of the calling process
[19:10] <jdstrand> hallyn: fyi, I committed the qrt fix
[19:16] <kirkland> today's Oneiric server has in the task selection, "Ubuntu desktop USB" ... wtf is that?
[19:16] <jdstrand> a mistake? :P
[19:21] <hallyn> jdstrand: hm, i get a lot of 'error: unknown OS type hvm' errors with the new libvirt (23 failures total)
[19:24] <jdstrand> hallyn: can you paste?
[19:28] <RoAkSoAx> koolhead17: lol cool ;)
[19:28]  * RoAkSoAx will be back in an hour
[19:29] <koolhead17> RoAkSoAx: 3 days ass kicking effort, finally success :D
[19:30] <hallyn> jdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678252/
[19:33] <jdstrand> hallyn: that doesn't seem so good. all it is doing is defining a VM and failing
[19:36] <jdstrand> hallyn: and that is simply a slightly modified libvirt/qatest/qatest.xml
[19:41] <Daviey> hallyn: How familar are you with virtio-serial ?
[19:45] <m_tadeu> hi...my email is being considered as spam (in hotmail only). the first thing poping to my eye, reading the headers is the Message-ID, which is using xxxx@www.domain.com, instead of xxxx@domain.com. How can I change this?
[19:46] <patdk-wk> what isn't the issue :)
[19:46] <patdk-wk> or unlikely to be the issue
[19:51] <m_tadeu> my SPF record seems to be set properly as  "v=spf1 a mx include:mydomain.com ~all"
[20:02] <hallyn> Daviey: not at all familiar
[20:03] <Daviey> hallyn: Hmm. I need to be able to get a qemu console into a size limited ring buffer on the host.. got any ideas? :)
[20:04] <hallyn> Daviey: none without research
[20:06] <Daviey> hallyn: bug 832507 is pretty serious.. I have commited /a/ fix, but uses a non-standard kernel module.
[20:07] <crass> hallyn: looks like the ubuntu-virt packages require the libnl3-dev as well. Would that be a lot of trouble to add those to natty?
[20:08] <crass> err, I mean the libvirt package from ubuntu-virt
[20:09] <hallyn> grr
[20:09] <hallyn> should just pull that patch converting to use libnl3.
[20:09] <hallyn> (for the ppa that is)
[20:10] <hallyn> crass: i'll get that pushed ina bout 5 mins
[20:20] <crass> thanks hallyn
[20:21] <hallyn> np - pushed
[20:25] <kernelpanicker> I changed the DNS for my domain but am having problems because the old IP is persisting somewhere in my BIND setup on ubuntu 10.04 here... any suggestions on how to purge all that?
[20:28] <crass> kernelpanicker: are you sure that the dns changes have propagated to your server's DNS?
[20:29] <kernelpanicker> well... not sure... I changed the DNS over 4 days ago, but browsing to the site on the LAN takes me to the old server... but nslookup etc are showing it as the new server...
[20:29] <kernelpanicker> so I'm assuming it's in my setup here somewhere.
[20:31] <crass> nslookup from the lan shows the new server ip?
[20:32] <crass> using which dns server?
[20:33] <crass> the bind server if its properly configured should update its cache
[20:34] <crass> ie, it shouldn't be authoratative for that domain, just a forwarder
[21:04] <hallyn> so libvirt-lxc appears to DTRT and symlink /dev/pts/ptmx to /dev/ptmx.  Then, it merrily mounts a new /dev over top of that which gets a simple /dev/ptmx device (which is broken)
[21:05] <zul> hallyn: libvirt-lxc mounting has gotten an overhaul in 0.9.4
[21:08] <hallyn> zul: yeah.  though does it do it the right way :)
[21:08] <zul> such as life :)
[21:08] <hallyn> zul: i can't get the 0.9.3-5 candidate to even recognize a 'hvm' type xml
[21:08] <zul> seriously?
[21:08] <zul> sheesh
[21:09] <hallyn> zul: so i guess lxcguest for oneiric will have to patch around that.  You ok with that?
[21:09] <zul> hallyn: yeah
[21:09] <hallyn> it's ugly, but...
[21:09] <zul> whatever works
[21:09] <hallyn> and yeah, seriously.  have you tried the qa-regression-tests on the candidate?
[21:10] <zul> nah ive had my plate full
[21:10] <zul> ...my cup runeth over
[21:19] <hallyn> zul: good times
[22:45] <bkerensa> uh oh
[22:45] <bkerensa> :D
[23:58] <Technicus> Hello . . . is there a way to setup the server so that there is a mouse?  I have a server running in a virtual machine and would like to select select and copy text, then paste it to the host operating system.
[23:59] <MacRohard> maybe install gpm ?