[00:11] <HazRPG> woah, that's freaky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKiMqRSHIHs
[00:11] <HazRPG> I've never managed to do the cross-eyed stereoscopic image thing before... but I managed to do it on that video - and its quite freaky
[00:11] <HazRPG> its hard to keep the focus of the centre image though
[01:36] <HazRPG> I parted?
[01:36] <HazRPG> apparently?
[03:22] <daftykins> HazRPG: you quit, changing host
[03:22] <HazRPG> ah
[03:22] <daftykins> ^_^
[03:22] <daftykins> just in case you wondered 2hrs later
[03:22] <daftykins> :>
[03:22] <HazRPG> heh, thanks :)
[03:29] <daftykins> my pleasure ^_^
[04:13] <Azelphur> why does the Ubuntu store insist on charging me in USD/Euro?
[04:14] <Azelphur> ...and in the meantime charge me UK VAT rates?
[04:14] <Azelphur> what is this I don't even.
[05:07] <MartijnVdS> Hm, no Oneiric updates for 2 days?
[06:18] <dwatkins>   
[06:18] <dwatkins> oops
[06:19] <dwatkins> and good morning
[06:20] <daftykins> o hai
[06:20] <daftykins> i'm still in the US so i'm -5hrs :>
[06:20] <daftykins> nearly got hit by Irene :O
[06:56] <daubers> Morning
[07:27] <DJones> Morning all
[07:47] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:58] <MartijnVdS> daftykins: hit or hit on? :P
[08:00] <AlanBell> morning all
[08:00] <bigcalm> Keep forgetting I'm leaving this session running
[08:00] <bigcalm> Morning peeps :)
[08:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> and a very good morning to everyone (To be read out loud in the voice of Rabbi Lionel Blue)
[08:03] <dwatkins> helloes
[08:04] <MooDoo> anyone need a teaboy?
[08:04] <MooDoo> rates are cheap :D
[08:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ewww. Tea? Nah...
[08:04] <TheOpenSourcerer> Coffe Yes :-D
[08:06] <dwatkins> I alternate between tea and coffee.
[08:06] <AlanBell> I alternate between coffee and coffee
[08:06] <TheOpenSourcerer> I alternate between coffee and beer :-)
[08:07] <MooDoo> ask a simple question ;)
[08:08] <AlanBell> anyone live over on the right hand side of the country?
[08:09] <bigcalm> MooDoo: read as 'rats are cheap'
[08:10] <MooDoo> bigcalm: lol
[08:10] <MooDoo> :)
[08:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> selinxium (or whatever his handle is) lives in Southend.
[08:14] <AlanBell> Daviey: is in the bottom left, must be a pub near him somewhere
[08:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> There are a few on the mailing list in the west country.
[08:15] <bigcalm> I guess I should join that mailing list thingy
[08:15] <bigcalm> Linky?
[08:16] <AlanBell> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
[08:17] <bigcalm> Thank you :)
[08:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> This just seems so wrong... https://github.com/mixu/nwm
[08:24] <bigcalm> JavaScript is the new black
[08:25] <AlanBell> nigelb is a big node.js fan
[08:25] <nigelb> Yeah, but I haven't written much in it yet.
[08:25] <AlanBell> how did my headset get this tangled??
[08:25] <nigelb> I just like writing code in javascript. I do suck at it though.
[08:25] <oimon> train driver announced that train wouldn't be stopping at next 3 stops.. 25% of passengers get off and seek alternative transport. oimon loiters suspiciously. train waits for 2 minutes and then announces that it will be stopping  there \o/
[08:26] <BigRedS> waiting is, generally, the right thing to do
[08:27] <oimon> although sometimes waiting 15 mins and then deciding to follow the crowd leads to much lateness
[08:27] <oimon> but i agree. waiting is usually as quick as buses
[08:28] <Daviey> AlanBell: I am always in the bottom left.
[08:28] <gord> i have the magic ability to be always standing at juuust the right spot to have the train doors stop right infront of me, i think i'm a wizard
[08:28] <Daviey> BUT bottem left of what?
[08:29] <oimon> gord: me too. i usually add to that trick by holding out my finger and the door button arrives in front of it :D
[08:29] <Hippychick> gord, do you also walk through brick walls to get to special platforms?
[08:30] <czajkowski> gord is special, that is all.
[08:34] <oimon> woke up at 4.30 today :(
[08:36] <AlanBell> Daviey: propose a pub name and postcode http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/
[08:36] <Daviey> AlanBell: One which i haven't been banned from?
[08:36] <BigRedS> ideally
[08:37] <Daviey> One i dodn't mind associating with beardy people in?
[08:37] <nigelb> heh
[08:38] <Mez> Daviey: pubs you haven't been banned from? That's a short list I'm sure.
[08:38] <JamesTait> Good morning, world. :-)
[08:38] <Mez> (and, morning, btw)
[08:40] <Daviey> hey Mez
[08:40] <AlanBell> Daviey: are you now not a beardy person?
[08:40] <Daviey> AlanBell: fellow beards :)
[09:02] <Mez> Oh... god... it's going to be one of those days.  I've had to use memegenerator in response to emails twice already today.
[09:05] <MartijnVdS> heh
[09:05] <MartijnVdS> Mez: Y U NO READ?
[09:07] <gord> are the emails regarding your excessive use of meme's as a communication tool?
[09:08] <ali1234> haters gonna hate
[09:09] <diplo-> AlanBell / TheOpenSourcerer, I'm a west country person.. still not decided where to have a happy hour
[09:10] <Daviey> diplo-: Where abouts?
[09:16] <diplo-> Sorry, Near Bath
[09:16] <diplo-> Placed called Trowbridge
[09:17] <bigcalm> diplo: was salt mined there or possibly a port for it?
[09:17] <bigcalm> A Severn (the river) Trow was a salt barge
[09:19] <diplo-> Not afaik, mainly weaving and stuff here in the past
[09:20] <diplo-> Bridge by the tree according to google :)
[09:21] <diplo-> Can't say what tree :D
[09:29] <czajkowski> aloha folks
[09:30] <MooDoo> hi czajkowski
[09:30] <czajkowski> MooDoo: howdy
[09:30] <MooDoo> czajkowski: relaxed?
[09:30] <czajkowski> yup
[09:32] <MooDoo> czajkowski: glad to hear it :)
[09:51] <oimon> seen this? http://www.benpurdy.com/2011/08/minecraft-in-real-life/
[09:52] <dogmatic69> lol
[09:53] <MooDoo> awesome
[09:53] <DJones> Wierd
[09:55] <bigcalm> My lack of flash prevents me from seeing this awesome weirdness
[09:58] <oimon> you're missing out
[09:58] <bigcalm> Apparently
[10:06] <oimon> where's your flash anyway? is this a wilful flash-fast?
[10:07] <bigcalm> Indeed. It needlessly bogs down my system
[10:07] <bigcalm> I have to keep it on my dev server for testing some client work, but I really don't miss it
[10:09] <bigcalm> Any youtube video I can't watch in HTML5 quite often works on my phone. And if it doesn't, I'm not really missing out that much
[10:13] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:14] <Myrtti> so... since there doesn't seem to be linux-386 kernel in the newer versions of Ubuntu, is there a comparable one in Debian? Was just looking at the options I have for the Viglen...
[10:14] <Myrtti> brobostigon: ohai
[10:15] <brobostigon> morning Myrtti
[10:21]  * AlanBell wonders if there is a nice pub in peterborough
[10:21] <Myrtti> brewery tap
[10:21] <Myrtti> smack in middle of town
[10:21] <Myrtti> :->
[10:23] <AlanBell> added :)
[10:23] <AlanBell> anyone over in Bristol?
[10:54] <MooDoo> hi all
[10:54] <MooDoo> damn vps ran out of memory :(
[10:54] <brobostigon> :(
[10:55] <MooDoo> That's what you get for playing with vps's at home :D
[10:57] <MooDoo> yay for VMWARE :)
[10:57] <MooDoo> lol
[11:13]  * AlanBell grumbles about people not knowing what "correct postage" means
[11:14] <DJones> AlanBell: Doesn't it mean that the person receiving the letter/package will pay the extra to correct the postage charge
[11:14] <DJones> :)
[11:14] <AlanBell> yes
[11:14] <oimon> reminds me i should send a few of those to virgin media
[11:14] <AlanBell> which is me, sending someone a free CD
[11:15] <AlanBell> so it is going to be sent back with incorrect postage too
[11:15] <oimon> how much does it cost to send a cd?
[11:16] <AlanBell> 2nd larg
[11:16] <Hippychick> our old post office delivered it anyway
[11:16] <AlanBell> 1st is 12p short
[11:16] <AlanBell> so I have had to pay £1.12 to receive a CD case
[11:17] <oimon> wow, i thought a regular stamp would cover it
[11:17] <DJones> We had a letter from our accountants enclosing a bill which had the wrong postage on so we ended up paying the extra
[11:17] <ali1234> this is why you should have just asked people to send you a pound sellotaped between two pieces of card
[11:17] <oimon> ali1234: or a paypal link.
[11:17] <ali1234> or bitcoins
[11:18] <oimon> bitcoins = virtual currency.  result = virtual cd (i.e. a url)
[11:20] <AlanBell> ali1234: yeah, I kind of liked the "no money changes hands" aspect of it, but this time it failed
[11:20] <AlanBell> I will update the web page
[11:21] <ali1234> alternatively just don't accept any that didn't have the right postage
[11:22] <oimon> tbh if i wanted a CD, the faff of SSAE etc would put me off, but a link to pay £1ish would be easy
[11:22] <ali1234> i will send you as many linux cds as you want if you send me bitcoins
[11:22] <ali1234> i don't accept paypal though
[11:22] <ali1234> and they are not originals
[11:22] <ali1234> i will just download and burn them
[11:24] <oimon> tbh i'm surprised that there are people in the UK who don't have broadband, or a friend with it
[11:25] <AlanBell> ali1234: you don't know what it is until you pay for it
[11:25] <ali1234> wut
[11:26] <ali1234> don't know what what is?
[11:26] <AlanBell> the post office just leave a note saying you have an item that you need to pay postage for
[11:26] <AlanBell> could be anything
[11:26] <ali1234> yeah
[11:26] <ali1234> don't collect any of them
[11:26] <ali1234> then the post office has to return it to the sender
[11:26] <oimon> what if its' something you purchased and want?
[11:27] <oimon> like my latest woot tshirt
[11:27] <ali1234> then you make a claim against the seller "object never delivered"
[11:27] <ali1234> and buy it from someone else
[11:27] <oimon> once my grandad sent me a birthday card with a 1p stamp. his eyesight wasn't great and he thought it was a 1st class. it had ££ in it
[11:27] <oimon> but no return address
[11:31] <AlanBell> http://ubuntu-uk.org/free-cds/
[11:34] <Hippychick> i never saw that before, wheres the furthest you have had to send to?
[11:35] <AlanBell> well the one with insufficient postage was blackpool
[11:35] <AlanBell> only sent out a few as we started it mid-release
[11:35] <Hippychick> fair enough
[11:36] <AlanBell> I expect we will make a bigger deal of it and accept pre-orders in the run up to Oneiric
[11:39] <Hippychick> i guess it stops the wastage as well from people ordering for the sake of ordering just because they are free
[11:54] <AlanBell> I don't know how much that was, I would be interested to know how many CDs shipit sent to the UK
[11:56] <Hippychick> i know a few years ago i went to order some, and by default it had selected to deliver 5
[12:00] <daubersmob> Tyre place is very busy today
[12:11] <popey> moo
[12:15] <DJones> Is that the real popey, or has a cow nicked his laptop from the field
[12:15] <popey> heh
[12:15] <popey> I am in semi civilisation
[12:16] <popey> just had to do some online banking :D
[12:18] <DJones> Are you on holiday
[12:20] <MartijnVdS> DJones: probably Wales or someplace
[12:20] <Daviey> popey: You sir, are full of false truths.
[12:20] <Daviey> civilisation is not possible where you are.
[12:20] <popey> Daviey: you seen where I am ?
[12:20] <popey> haha
[12:21] <Daviey> popey: nah, where are you?
[12:21] <Daviey> specific
[12:21] <popey> one mo
[12:21] <popey> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=cary+park,+torquay&hl=en&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=15.738773,39.331055&vpsrc=0&z=16
[12:21] <popey> the green bit there
[12:23] <Myrtti> awww
[12:23] <Myrtti> Tony Sale has passed away
[12:29] <oimon> i went near there on my hols this year
[12:30] <oimon> incidentally i just been watching freakyclown's excellent talk from oggcamp this year
[12:31] <Daviey> popey: ah, not too far then
[12:39] <popey> right, best go play with kids
[12:39] <popey> ttfn
[12:40] <MooDoo> later popey
[13:32] <daubers> \o/ new tyres
[13:32] <dogmatic69> $money--
[13:32] <dogmatic69>  /o\
[13:33] <Hippychick> i need a new tyre :/
[13:34] <Hippychick> daubers, can i have yours? :P
[13:37] <daubers> Hippychick: Probably the wrong tyres
[13:45] <Hippychick> shame :(
[13:45] <Hippychick> maybe you can just take my car for the new tyre then bring it back to me: :D
[13:46] <daubers> Hippychick: after my wallet being made £150 lighter from the two I got.... I'd rather not :p
[13:47] <Hippychick> fair enough, im £600 down from the ferrets :(
[13:56] <daubers> £600 on _ferrets_?????
[13:56] <daubers> Where they made of gold?
[13:56] <daubers> Solid gold ferrets?
[13:57] <daubers> You could buy a hive full of bee's, a beekeepers smock, hive tool, smocker and still have change for that!
[13:57] <daubers> s/smocker/smoker
[13:57] <Hippychick> x-rays and medicine
[13:58] <Hippychick> 1 broke its leg twice and has major calcium defcieny so is being treated for that
[13:58] <ikonia-remote> Hippychick: are the ferrets pets or business
[13:59] <Hippychick> and the other being jelous of all the attention decided to try and break his leg so more x-rays and pain meds for both of them
[13:59] <Hippychick> they are just pets, ikonia-remote
[14:00] <oimon> ferrets are a replaceable commodity surely?
[14:00] <oimon> they all look the same
[14:00] <Hippychick> :O no ferret is replaceable!
[14:02]  * dwatkins returns to this window to see a statement he thoroughly agrees with
[14:02] <dwatkins> indeed, Hippychick
[14:03] <oimon> could you pick yours from an ID parade?
[14:04] <Hippychick> i could
[14:04] <Hippychick> they each have different looks and personallities
[14:05] <oimon> do they all smell so bad or is it just the boys
[14:06] <Hippychick> mainly the boys, though this improves after they are neuterd, i dont notice any smell anymore
[14:06] <andrew_> Don't suppose anyone is familiar with slapd?
[14:08] <DJones> Is it april fools day already? This sounds to good to be believable http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ITRI-Display-Taiwan-USB-3.0-2TB-Thin-Card,13320.html
[14:09] <ikonia-remote> andrew_: what's up with slapd ?
[14:10] <andrew_> I have some kind of permissions problem on my db but can't figure out whats wrong - if i comment out two lines in /etc/default/slapd and let it run as root it is fine, but if i start normally as openldap it wont start
[14:11] <andrew_> I can probably leave it running as root as this is just for a home network
[14:11] <Hippychick> DJones, that looks awesome, i want!!!!
[14:11] <andrew_> But I'd like to have it working properly
[14:12] <DJones> Hippychick: Me too, a 2 TB usb stick, something like that would be brilliant for schools/colleges etc, give every student one & they come to class, plug into a diskless chassis and boot up, take it from room to room with the weight of a laptop etc
[14:16] <andrew_> DJones, Couldn't that be done with far less storage than 2TB?
[14:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Hmm - No oracle-java-jdk package in the future then? Better make sure everything works on OpenJDK instead: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Oracle-retires-licence-for-distributing-its-Java-with-Linux-1332835.html
[14:17] <DJones> andrew_: It could quite easily, but I'm just surprised at the size of teh stick
[14:23] <bigcalm> There isn't a 'send window to session n' is there? I can move windows between virtual desktops but not x sessions
[14:24] <bigcalm> Due to my setup I have 3 seperate X sessions running on 3 monitors
[14:24] <ikonia-remote> bigcalm: you can't do that
[14:25] <ikonia-remote> if you used xinerama it may have been possible to write something that could send to X displays,
[14:25] <ikonia-remote> but as pretty much no-one uses it these days I guess no-one bothered to write it
[14:26] <bigcalm> I did have xinerama across the 3 monitors, but that gives one a very slow desktop
[14:26] <ormiret> bigcalm: I think you could do that with xpra
[14:27] <bigcalm> ormiret: interesting
[14:27] <ikonia-remote> ormiret: how can that work ?
[14:28] <ormiret> It sits between teh app and X server that actually does the displaying and gives the option to connect to a different X server
[14:29] <ikonia-remote> ormiret: you can't send it to different X servers
[14:29] <ikonia-remote> it's like an X11 version of screen, you can't push applications to different X servers with it
[14:30] <ikonia-remote> last time I tried it it was quite buggy, which is understandable as it's early development
[14:31] <ormiret> you can reattach to different computers so a different X server on the same machine should work
[14:33] <ikonia-remote> that's not sending to a different X server though
[14:34] <ikonia-remote> that's starting an applicaiton, detatching it, then re-attatching it on a different X server
[14:35] <ormiret> Other than a bit of shell scripting to mess with $DISPLAY between the detach and the reattach isn't that teh same thing?
[14:36] <ikonia-remote> for me no, but as you say depends on your needs and expectations
[14:37] <directhex> bored, ikonia-remote? you seem super ircish since you went to brazil
[14:45] <czajkowski> heh
[14:46]  * MooDoo would be bored if he wasn't so damn busy
[14:47] <DJones> "ircish" I read that as "irish" :)
[14:50] <MooDoo> DJones: no that's czajkowski[ish] :)
[14:50] <czajkowski> :D
[14:53] <MooDoo> czajkowski: have you seen davmor2 today?   i don't seem to recall him poking you recently...
[14:53] <czajkowski> he;'s leaving me on my hols
[14:54] <MooDoo> czajkowski: huh?   he's come to see you for a visit?
[14:54] <czajkowski> no on irc
[14:54] <MooDoo> ah
[14:57] <ikonia-remote> directhex: super board
[14:57] <ikonia-remote> plus as I'm away I thought I'd try to involve myself in the UK channel a little more rather than popping in/out
[15:05] <Hippychick> when my boss decided to lock all the router access down he never thought about internet enabled phones...
[15:06] <Hippychick> sorry, not router, internet
[15:12] <czajkowski> Hippychick: used to use anyterm in a place where it was all locked down
[15:12] <czajkowski> so I could stil irc
[15:12] <DJones> Who was it that was waiting for the £69 HP Pre? http://www.reghardware.com/2011/08/30/hp_puts_69_pound_pre_3_on_uk_website/
[15:13] <oimon> directhex:
[15:13] <DJones> I thought it was either AlanBell or TheOpenSourcerer
[15:13] <Azelphur> DJones: oO, is there any effort to get android on it?
[15:13] <oimon> i want another touchpad
[15:14] <DJones> Azelphur: No idea about that
[15:14] <directhex> ARGH
[15:15]  * DJones shouldn't have mentioned it, if that the reaction
[15:15] <Azelphur> lol
[15:15] <Azelphur> pressing find a local retailer, nothing is happening
[15:15] <ikonia-remote> ahhh who cares
[15:15] <Azelphur> clearly it doesn't want to sell me one D:
[15:16] <directhex> could you port android to it? sure. should you? Why on earth would you WANT to?
[15:16] <ikonia-remote> why is everyone obssed with porting android to these things
[15:16] <Azelphur> because I like android? because it's open source and has a huge selection of apps and is the #1 mobile operating system?
[15:16] <directhex> Azelphur, open source ish.
[15:16] <ikonia-remote> android is turning into another Linux where things don't work as there are 200 varients all slightly different
[15:17] <oimon> i don't really regard android as linux
[15:17] <oimon> it just runs on linux
[15:17] <directhex> oimon, good. it isn't, really
[15:17] <Azelphur> sure it is
[15:17] <Azelphur> you can hack away at android just like any other distro
[15:17] <ikonia-remote> I didn't say it was Linux, I said it's turning into another Linux due to how it's being forked/varients
[15:17] <oimon> do we see android apps running on our linux desktops?
[15:17] <directhex> Azelphur, awesome. there are some tweaks i want to make to the honeycomb ui...
[15:18] <Azelphur> oimon: yep
[15:19] <oimon> Azelphur: how?
[15:19]  * Azelphur points at the android sdk
[15:19] <directhex> android isn't gnu/linux. it has a forked linux kernel, and a nonstandard userland. it's possible to run some android apps on a real linux kernel (or other non-android kernel) via software like Alien Dalvik
[15:19]  * dwatkins wonders if mounting a filesystem from a 200 GB file on a USB-attached disk was a bad idea, when it fails to complete within 30 seconds
[15:19] <directhex> but it doesn't achieve much.
[15:20] <ikonia-remote> exactly
[15:20] <oimon> what happened to this? http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/05/canonical-developers-aim-to-make-android-apps-run-on-ubuntu.ars
[15:20] <ikonia-remote> oimon: I hope it died
[15:20] <directhex> as for android on pre3... yeah. could be done. if someone writes the requisite drivers for the touchscreen
[15:20] <ikonia-remote> just from the url alone
[15:20] <directhex> and finds a way to fake the hardware buttons via the gesture area
[15:20] <czajkowski> ikonia-remote: aye you;'ve never been as vocal in here till you went away
[15:21] <directhex> someone's got cyanogenmod to boot on a touchpad. the colours are wrong, and there's no user input, but it boots
[15:21] <directhex> same technique would work for a pre3.
[15:21] <ikonia-remote> czajkowski: thought I'd try to get more invovled in my local comunity
[15:21] <Azelphur> :)
[15:21] <Azelphur> In other news, why does Ubuntu software center want me to pay in USD/Euro and charge me UK VAT?
[15:21] <czajkowski> ikonia-remote: ok :)
[15:21] <czajkowski> Azelphur: log a bug
[15:21] <czajkowski> bit odd tbh
[15:22] <Azelphur> woulda thought there's some explanation to it :p
[15:22] <dwatkins> haha wow, it took several minutes to tell me off for forgetting the -o loop :)
[15:22] <czajkowski> you're based in UK
[15:22] <czajkowski> billing address in UK
[15:22] <czajkowski> offhand
[15:22] <directhex> JoShieldsHPPre3 / # uname -a
[15:22] <directhex> Linux JoShieldsHPPre3 2.6.32.9-palm-rib #1 PREEMPT 153.5.1 armv7l GNU/Linux
[15:22] <directhex> real lunix
[15:23] <Azelphur> directhex: does it run X11?
[15:23] <directhex> Azelphur, the native WM isn't x11. but there's an X11 app in preware.
[15:24] <directhex> JoShieldsHPPre3 / # /lib/libc.so.6
[15:24] <directhex> GNU C Library (Sourcery G++ 4.3-234) stable release version 2.8, by Roland McGrath et al.
[15:24] <directhex> gnu!
[15:24] <Azelphur> the thing is that when you go to phone hardware and stuff like this not everything works anyway even if you get as close as you are
[15:24] <Azelphur> Even with the N900 that had "proper" linux and X11
[15:24] <directhex> JoShieldsHPPre3 / # gst-inspect-0.10 | tail -1
[15:24] <directhex> Total count: 53 plugins, 199 features
[15:24] <directhex> gstreamer!
[15:25] <Azelphur> The majority of stuff still needed heavy tweaking or just didn't work at all
[15:25] <directhex> JoShieldsHPPre3 / # pulseaudio --version
[15:25] <directhex> pulseaudio 0.9.22
[15:25] <Azelphur> also havn't HP abandoned WebOS now?
[15:26] <directhex> they've axed the hardware. the software is supposedly still being developed, but without shipping hardware, people are nervous.
[15:27] <Hippychick> just looking at smartphones, the htc sensation has about as much processing power as our media server...
[15:27] <ikonia-remote> directhex: I still think those tablets would make mega network VT1000 or terminal emmulators
[15:27] <ikonia-remote> directhex: forget everything else just using them as a terminal emmulator would be a great tools
[15:28] <directhex> ikonia-remote, if they had rs232 ports, sure ;)
[15:29] <DJones> Azelphur: There was a report that there was going to be an OTA update for WebOS fairly soon
[15:29] <DJones> Or for the touchpad anyway
[15:29] <Azelphur> :)
[15:30] <DJones> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20099049-64/hp-update-to-boost-touchpad-functionality/
[15:30] <Azelphur> yea I'm not seeing how WebOS has anything over Android/Maemo tbh
[15:30] <oimon> seems to work nicely?
[15:31] <ikonia-remote> directhex: network acces would be great, a physical port would be even more amazing
[15:31] <Azelphur> If you want apps with a little compromise it seems like Android, and if you want real Linux, Maemo is more mature, has more things ported to it, and uses X11 so you can have more things.
[15:31] <directhex> http://twitpic.com/6ct48e/full
[15:32] <oimon> isn't maemo pronounced meego nowadays?
[15:32] <MartijnVdS> directhex: is that banshee?!
[15:32] <directhex> oimon, except the n9 is running maemo 6, which has meego compatibility ;)
[15:32] <directhex> MartijnVdS, yes.
[15:32] <MartijnVdS> directhex: because it looks different than mine
[15:32] <Azelphur> oimon: good point :P
[15:33] <oimon> or mee"gone"
[15:34] <oimon> who bought the kagon tablet a little while back? that cost about the same as a TP as i recall
[15:34] <directhex> here's the problem with android: it sucks. it really does. it's going to take over the world as the #1 smartphone OS not by being good, but by being everywhere. its devices are user-hostile, the OS is user-hostile. are there some good apps? yes, there are apps i really miss from android on webos. but it's a big app store on top of a crap os
[15:34] <oimon> HP accidentally made the TP more desirable than the ipad atm
[15:35] <directhex> oimon, seems like the tp had a pricing problem more than anything, eh?
[15:35] <ikonia-remote> well, no, it just made it very cheep by killing it
[15:35] <oimon> tons of guys have become insanley jealous of me suddenly
[15:35] <oimon> because i have something they can't get
[15:35] <directhex> your tablet brings all the boys to the yard
[15:36] <directhex> and you're like "it's better than yours"
[15:36] <oimon> deffo
[15:36] <oimon> some people didn't think they existed
[15:36] <directhex> i nearly bought one full price the week before they axed the price
[15:36] <directhex> no kidding
[15:37] <ikonia-remote> luck is on your side
[15:37] <oimon> the force is with you
[15:37] <oimon> although you might have got a refund
[15:38] <ikonia-remote> has anyone jumped into the 6 core intil CPU's yet ?
[15:39] <directhex> not i
[15:39] <ging> i can barely afford 2 cores
[15:39] <directhex> i'm on quadcore i7, wife is on quadcore i5 sandy bridge
[15:39]  * MartijnVdS is waiting for Ivy Bridge
[15:39] <ging> 6 cores? there was a time when they thought the world would only need 6 computers
[15:40] <ikonia-remote> I'm torying with an upgrade for my machine in the loft.
[15:40] <ikonia-remote> toying even
[15:40] <directhex> tories? eek!
[15:40] <ikonia-remote> directhex: I think you know better than that.
[15:41] <directhex> wifey has a big red pc now. it's got a 6970 in it
[15:42] <ikonia-remote> red ?
[15:42] <directhex> red!
[15:42] <ikonia-remote> colour is important to women
[15:42] <directhex> http://i.imgur.com/BK7mqh.jpg
[15:43] <ikonia-remote> nice small case
[15:43] <ikonia-remote> did yo ubuy it red
[15:43] <oimon> i like the rennie tablets on top of the pizza advert
[15:43] <oimon> kind of go hand-in-hand
[15:43] <directhex> oimon, not a coincidence :|
[15:43] <directhex> ikonia-remote, yeah, they make that one in red, alu & black
[15:44] <DJones> directhex: Without wanting to add to the stereotype, .... but my wife has a red laptop because she liked the colour
[15:44] <ikonia-remote> nice
[15:44] <ikonia-remote> quite tidy, would fit well under my desk
[15:44] <oimon> when i eat a subway i swig gaviscon as a pre-emptive strike
[15:44] <directhex> ikonia, and it came with the cd bezel in red. that was a big problem with other coloured cases
[15:44] <ikonia-remote> that's a bit annoying
[15:46] <Hippychick> if it helps i have a dell studio with one of those funky patterns on the lid
[15:46] <oimon> my wife said she didn't mind what colour our laptop was. so i bought a gunmetal/battleship grey one that i knew was good and i knew how to fix. now she tells me that wasn't exactly true.
[15:47] <Hippychick> i only wanted the laptop for the funky pattern....
[15:48] <oimon> i wonder if i can buy a big sticker for the case instead
[15:49] <Hippychick> oimon, depends on the sticker
[15:49] <Hippychick> maybe you could spray paint it
[15:50] <oimon> not this one i suppose http://www.notefashion.com/product.aspx?pid=20100523090446837
[15:50] <Hippychick> or airbrush might be  a better term....
[15:50] <ikonia-remote> oimon: there are some companies that do really good viynal covers for laptops, made to spec
[15:51] <ikonia-remote> eg: apple ones with the apple logo cut out, dell ones with the dell logo cut out, ones that cover the whole case, keyboard surround, monitor surroud, or ones that just cover the lid
[15:51] <Hippychick> maybe not, though i like the abstract person one
[15:53] <directhex> ikonia,  http://yfrog.com/z/gzjrmcpzj
[15:53] <dogmatic69> only two sticks of ram?
[15:53] <dogmatic69> no ssd
[15:54] <dogmatic69> :/
[15:54] <directhex> dogmatic69, only two 4G sticks, yes.
[15:54] <directhex> dogmatic69, and look to the right of the CPU
[15:54] <dogmatic69> new mobos take more than 8
[15:54] <ikonia-remote> directhex: I remember you ordering that
[15:54] <dogmatic69> ah :)
[15:55] <directhex> dogmatic69, what's the point in putting 16G of RAM into it at this point? better to save the money
[15:55] <dogmatic69> ram is about the cheapest part of a new pc
[15:56] <ikonia-remote> directhex: yeah, cache your whole file system ! waste ram you don't need
[15:56] <suprengr> was thinking od adding memory myself today - saved the waste and bought a *low* end graphics card instead - weee!
[15:58] <directhex> dogmatic69, yeah, but we already blew the budget. it's a £140 case, for starters.
[15:58] <dogmatic69> ah
[15:59] <dogmatic69> what was the budget?
[15:59] <directhex> something around the £1000 mark. bitcoin mining added a few hundred to that though
[15:59] <directhex> windows, £67.50.
[16:00] <directhex> ram, £63.60
[16:00] <dogmatic69> ew, winblows :/
[16:00] <directhex> blu-ray drive, £72.58
[16:00] <directhex> looks like a burner
[16:01] <directhex> case, £142.14
[16:01] <gord> always feel bad about buying cases, its like... yeah its a nice case, but i could put the computer in a cardboard box and it would work much the same
[16:02] <ikonia_> dogmatic69: ew, people who call Windows, "winblows"
[16:02] <gord> have this one at the mo, its very nice http://www.corsair.com/cases/obsidian-series/obsidian-series-800d.html
[16:03] <directhex> CPU, £149.99
[16:03] <directhex> mobo, £101.99
[16:04] <directhex> data disk, £57.59
[16:04] <directhex> psu, £59.99
[16:04] <directhex> ssd, £167.99
[16:04] <directhex> gpu, £251.63
[16:05] <directhex> £1138. didn't need another 8 gig of RAM.
[16:06] <directhex> sata3 throughout - sata3 data disk and sata3 ssd
[16:06] <directhex> oh, i forgot, her monitor blew out a couple of weeks later, so that was more expense
[16:07] <dogmatic69> monitors are a big spend
[16:07] <dogmatic69> especially when you want 2 or 3 of them
[16:08] <suprengr> directhex, 2nd hand monitors from an electronics shop are usually less than £50
[16:08] <gord> nice monitors are a big spend ;)
[16:11] <suprengr> anyone know if I can get 'sensors' to detect the temp. of an nVidia Geforce :(   anyone succeeded?
[16:12] <bigcalm> suprengr: yep, works for my pci-e gt 8600, doesn't work for my pci 8400 gs
[16:12] <bigcalm> So appears to be card dependant
[16:12] <bigcalm> Or I have to update sensors
[16:13] <suprengr> bigcalm, that's what i feared... ta
[16:13] <directhex> suprengr: replacing a £250 24" PVA display with a £50 second hand CRT, to pair with a £1200 pc? outstanding idea
[16:13] <suprengr> directhex, who said replace it with a crt?  noooo!
[16:14] <suprengr> ...and why so aggressive?
[16:14] <directhex> it comes naturally
[16:14] <suprengr> ;)
[16:15] <directhex> now back to dk2
[16:15] <suprengr> my monitor is a case in point 9yeah - me cheap skate!) £30 for a 17" lcd
[16:16] <suprengr> sub 9 for (
[16:20]  * suprengr has noticed 'topic' might be a tad beyond sell-by date
[16:56] <chambo> evening all
[16:56] <MartijnVdS> \o chambo
[17:01] <chambo> Can anyone suggest an alternative to ampache?
[17:07] <bigcalm> chalcedony: if that was a typo of Apache, then try lighttpd. If it wasn't then I don't know
[17:07] <bigcalm> Oops
[17:07] <bigcalm> chambo: if that was a typo of Apache, then try lighttpd. If it wasn't then I don't know
[17:08] <hamitron> mpd has plenty of frontends
[17:08] <hamitron> not used such stuff myself
[17:08] <hamitron> :/
[17:08] <bigcalm> Oh, ok, try gnump3d
[17:10] <chambo> I use mpd locally but i wanted to stream music over tinternet
[17:10] <chambo> Not sure MPD can do that easily
[17:13] <hamitron> like icecast?
[17:20] <Myrtti> AlanBell: }
[17:23] <AlanBell> thanks Myrtti
[17:24] <AlanBell> Myrtti passed the test
[17:24] <MartijnVdS> the OCD test? :)
[17:24] <MartijnVdS> sorry.. CDO
[17:24] <dutchie> haha
[17:25] <Myrtti> I wish I'll pass my second test this week too
[17:25] <Myrtti> I take this as good omens
[17:25] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: what test is that?
[17:26] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: *cough* Google job interview
[17:26] <bigcalm> Coooo
[17:26] <bigcalm> Myrtti: break a leg :)
[17:26] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: ah, g'luck
[17:27]  * bigcalm just realises that could sound a bit odd if one doesn't already know the expression
[17:27] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: only a little ;)
[17:29] <Myrtti> bigcalm: thankies ♥
[17:29] <Myrtti> MartijnVdS: thanks, I'll need it
[17:29] <bigcalm> Myrtti: take a lucky penguin with you ;)
[17:30]  * suprengr was away playing with 'sensors' & is more than a little impressed with AlanBell 's promptness :)
[17:30] <MartijnVdS> wow: http://slacy.com/blog/2011/01/wifi-credentials-in-a-qr-code/
[17:32] <ikonia-remote> MartijnVdS: that's an excellent tool, but a massive security risk for secured networks
[17:32] <gord> i just put a little post-it note on the router that contains the uuid/key
[17:35] <AlanBell> that is cool
[17:36] <MartijnVdS> ikonia-remote: afaics it only works for WEP/WPA with a pre-shared key
[17:36] <MartijnVdS> ikonia-remote: not Enterprise-WPA
[17:36] <MartijnVdS> I might print one for in my home (for visitors)
[17:38] <ikonia-remote> MartijnVdS: still a security risk that you give someone your password by being able to see an image
[17:39] <ikonia-remote> it's basically the same as having a post-it as gord does, it's saving the hassle of having to type it, although it's probably only good for phone or tablet devices
[17:41] <ikonia-remote> pretty touch to get a picture like that on your laptop without messing around/hassle
[17:41] <ikonia-remote> great idea to give people data like this though
[17:41] <chambo> An NFC sticker would be even better
[17:48] <AlanBell> ikonia-remote: if someone is standing in my house and looking at my wifi access point then I would let them on my wifi anyway
[17:49] <ikonia-remote> AlanBell: yeah, I can't see that as an issue for home use, it's a great trick,
[17:49] <ikonia-remote> unless you use a laptop in which case it's a headache and easier to type
[17:50]  * bigcalm notes this for the next time he's round AlanBell's place to steal bbq food
[17:50]  * AlanBell notes that last time people came round for a BBQ a big sheet with the wifi key written on it was passed around
[17:51] <bigcalm> AlanBell: I picked up 2 slackers (read Aq and Adam Sweet) so didn't know there was such a bit of paper
[17:51] <bigcalm> +arrived late
[17:51] <AlanBell> :)
[17:51]  * jml is excited
[17:51] <AlanBell> you know for next year then!
[17:51] <jml> tonight is podcast night
[17:51] <bigcalm> Hooray!
[17:51] <bigcalm> Hooray for bbq food
[17:52] <bigcalm> Never have the time to listen live
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: Hooray for http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silence-Love-Headless-Heros/dp/B001H1Q99M :)
[17:57] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: ?
[17:57] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: One of the best albums in my collection
[17:58] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: also one of the most unknown :)
[17:58] <bigcalm> Ok :)
[18:00] <bigcalm> I shall have a listen in Spotify later
[18:03] <suprengr> I will not send lard through the mail
[18:03] <suprengr> ;)
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: that sounds like something Bart Simpson would write on the blackboard :)
[18:04] <suprengr> double ;)
[18:04] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: it's an oldie too -- 1994 :)
[18:05] <suprengr> [they're all getting a bit old now - but still fun]
[18:05] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: they're still making new ones
[18:06] <suprengr> MartijnVdS, and Family Guy - how does that man do it?
[18:07] <suprengr> ...& AmDad
[18:07] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: Family Guy is not the same guy
[18:07] <MartijnVdS> suprengr: Futurama is
[18:07] <suprengr> Bender is a close friend
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> the newest season is a bit hit&miss though
[18:08] <suprengr> :(
[18:18] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: enjoying the guitar work in To You
[18:21] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: all of the songs are covers -- To You is originally by "I am Kloot"
[18:21] <bigcalm> I see
[18:23] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: I have the album, the single (North Wind Blew South) and the "remixes" 12" on vinyl
[18:24] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Headless+Heroes (all the covers look similar but different)
[20:18] <czajkowski> anyone here who following the RWC ?
[20:21] <suprengr> o/
[20:22] <suprengr> assuming you mean the wugby rolrld cup ;)
[20:22] <czajkowski> 9 days to world cup kick off just created #RWCRants on Freenode :D for all the FOSS rugby fans to join in
[20:23] <suprengr> well done to czajkowski
[20:23] <ikonia-remote_> RWC ?
[20:24] <Pendulum> ikonia-remote_: Rugby World Cup
[20:24] <suprengr> wugby rolrld cup!
[20:24] <czajkowski> if ya have to explain it you probably don't follow it :)
[20:24] <suprengr> ...that's what the WRC is when you have WRC parties
[20:25] <bigcalm> World Rally Championship
[20:25] <suprengr> [viewing, cheering, * bottles]
[20:25] <bigcalm> Brum brum
[20:26] <suprengr> ...& other fellow followers
[20:38] <ikonia-remote> I can't tell if my connection is alive it's that quite in here
[20:39] <bigcalm> !ping
[20:44] <AlanBell> anyone from newcastle upon tyne or thereabouts?
[20:45] <brobostigon> anyone from north oxfordshire?
[20:46] <dwatkins> brobostigon: no, south
[20:46] <brobostigon> :(
[20:46] <mrevell> AlanBell, Grew up there, if that's any help
[20:46] <AlanBell> ohh, pub in Oxford please
[20:46] <AlanBell> mrevell: hmm, not so much, trying to fill out http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/
[20:46] <mrevell> ah
[20:46] <dwatkins> I like the Folly Bridge Inn in Oxford.
[20:47] <dutchie> turf!
[20:47] <brobostigon> AlanBell: i would ask directhex for that one, her worked there.
[20:47] <dutchie> does get rather busy though
[20:47] <AlanBell> dutchie is a student there
[20:47] <brobostigon> :)
[20:47]  * AlanBell is staying in keble college next week
[20:47] <dutchie> !
[20:47] <dutchie> that's my college!
[20:47] <AlanBell> orly!
[20:48]  * brobostigon is available for a daytime beer.
[20:48] <AlanBell> will be at the Transfer Summit
[20:48] <AlanBell> http://transfersummit.com/
[20:49] <dutchie> keble is clearly the best oxford college :)
[20:49] <AlanBell> so what was a good oxford pub? Folly Bridge?
[20:49] <AlanBell> fairly near the station as parking is a nightmare
[20:49] <dutchie> the turf is supposedly the best
[20:49] <dutchie> you can walk everywhere in central oxford really
[20:50] <dutchie> there is a wetherspoons reasonably near the station
[20:50] <brobostigon> eeek, i seem to have AlanBell's mobile number.
[20:51] <dutchie> personally, i usually go to the college bar, the wetherspoons, the turf, or the royal oak
[20:51] <AlanBell> brobostigon: probably the wrong one though
[20:51] <brobostigon> AlanBell: yes.
[20:51]  * AlanBell adds the turf to the list
[20:51] <dutchie> or the gloucester arms
[20:51] <dutchie> but that will probably be too metal-ly for some
[20:51] <AlanBell> do we not have someone in "the other place"
[20:51] <brobostigon> if one of you, wants to give me a shout, i would be pleased to attend, within reasonble hours.
[20:53] <brobostigon> how long does it take to get form dover to banbury, at this time of day?
[20:53] <TheOpenSourcerer> brobostigon: How quick are you going?
[20:54] <brobostigon> TheOpenSourcerer: my dad is coming back from holiday.
[20:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> From Farnham, I can get to my Brother-in-laws (Horton) in about 2hrs,
[20:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> Dover to me is about 2hrs too.
[20:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> take "me out of it and you could probably do it in 3 1/2 hrs
[20:55] <brobostigon> so 3.5-4 hours?
[20:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> yeah
[20:55] <brobostigon> ok, thank you.
[20:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> As long as the M25 isn't broken.
[20:55]  * TheOpenSourcerer will be at Keble College next week too :-)
[20:55] <brobostigon> lol. google latitude to the rescue.
[20:56] <brobostigon> alan invasion. :)
[20:56] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[20:56] <dutchie> well room 2004 was my room last year, and 4105 (iirc) is next year
[20:56] <dutchie> 2004 was very hot :)
[20:57] <dutchie> stupid hatot water pipes
[20:57] <dutchie> hot
[20:57] <brobostigon> TheOpenSourcerer: the same time as AlanBell ?
[20:57] <TheOpenSourcerer> dutchie: How did you get  into your message?
[20:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> brobostigon: Indeed. We will probably be sharing a car.
[20:58] <brobostigon> ok, beer meeetup?
[20:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> I understand we should use the Park and ride
[20:58] <brobostigon> geeek out?
[20:58] <dutchie> TheOpenSourcerer: not sure, think something is broken with my slow connection and ssh or something
[20:58] <suprengr_> ok - own up - who nicked my internet connxn?
[20:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://transfersummit.com/
[20:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> brobostigon: ^--^
[20:59] <TheOpenSourcerer> Python for Visual Studio from MS: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-rolls-out-open-source-python-extension-for-visual-studio/10478?tag=mantle_skin;content
[21:00] <brobostigon> wednesday-thursday. ok. in my diary.
[21:00] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: #RWCRants has been created
[21:00] <czajkowski> where is danfish
[21:00] <TheOpenSourcerer> czajkowski: Should I care?
[21:01] <czajkowski> TheOpenSourcerer: oi cranky pants, no yer'll lose anyways
[21:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> I have no idea what #RWCRants means
[21:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> Ahh!
[21:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> Penny just dropped
[21:01] <brobostigon> lol
[21:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> sorry
[21:01] <czajkowski> less of the cheeky tone
[21:01] <czajkowski> hmph!
[21:01] <TheOpenSourcerer> Mind been on other things.
[21:02]  * brobostigon needs to think about a shave then, and sorting his moustache out.
[21:04] <Pendulum> TheOpenSourcerer: I did not just drop :(
[21:07] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Tony] Old Skool - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/08/30/old-skool/
[21:07]  * AlanBell wonders if Daviey and the bottom left crue have picked a pub yet
[21:08] <brobostigon> AlanBell: i wasnt going to suggesy two good real ale houses her in banbury myself, aswell.
[21:08] <brobostigon> suggest*
[21:09] <AlanBell> one will do :)
[21:10] <brobostigon> ye olde reindeer inn, parsons street, banbury.
[21:10] <AlanBell> postcode?
[21:10] <brobostigon> ox16 *
[21:10] <brobostigon> let me find.
[21:11] <AlanBell> yup, I will add that after the next as it is a bit close to oxford
[21:11] <brobostigon> ox16 5na
[21:11] <AlanBell> well actually I am going to jumble them all up somehow
[21:11] <brobostigon> adapt a random number gen.
[21:12] <AlanBell> no, I will do it manually
[21:12] <brobostigon> ok.
[21:13] <brobostigon> same pub as i planned the release party for, a few years ago, where i met directhex.
[21:13] <AlanBell> want to get a balance of locations with it returning fairly often to within an hour of london
[21:13] <brobostigon> ok.
[21:16] <brobostigon> i am always amazed, how the version of networkmanager in debian unstable, can deal so easily with more than ione network connection. ie i am trying to fix the adsl, so connected to it via wifi. and tethered to my mobile at the same time.
[21:17] <suprengr_> so it was brobostigon who nicked my internet connxn then?
[21:17] <brobostigon> :(
[21:17]  * suprengr_ forgives
[21:18] <brobostigon> yay :)
[21:20] <suprengr_> if you'll all forgive me.. it's hard work having time off work ;) ..so I'm off to zzz
[21:34] <diplo> evening all
[21:36]  * TheOpenSourcerer decides it is time for bed. Laterz all.
[21:37] <brobostigon> nos da TheOpenSourcerer o/
[21:39] <Azelphur> haha, team avo just tried to grief my minecraft server
[21:39] <Azelphur> me and 2 other admins responded, they all got banned, I rolled back the damage
[21:40] <Azelphur> now I'm getting lots of people asking where the griefing is
[21:40] <Azelphur> and I'm like "nowhere, they all got banned and the damage was undone before you arrived"
[21:40] <Azelphur> xD
[21:40] <directhex> minecraft 1.8 looks enticing. i might start playing again
[21:40] <diplo> Still never tried it myself
[21:41] <funkyHat> I've seen my brother playing it, can't say it made me want to get it myself particularly
[21:45] <diplo> oh, first person i have heard not say overly positive comments about it
[21:45] <diplo> :)
[22:01] <AlanBell> ok, so the plan is coming together for the Ubuntu UK Happy Hour project
[22:01] <AlanBell> where and when should we do the first pub?
[22:02] <brobostigon> <-----
[22:03] <brobostigon> sorry
[22:06] <AlanBell> want to start on one where we can reliably draw a crowd, so that is probably London
[22:06] <brobostigon> yes.
[22:06] <AlanBell> Morpeth Arms near Canonical might be interesting place to start
[22:06] <AlanBell> gord suggested that one I think
[22:07] <gord> nope not me
[22:08] <AlanBell> ok, well still a decent enough place to start
[22:12] <diplo> As long as there is notice I'm willing to train down to london to get out
[22:12] <diplo> Nice to meet people from here
[22:13] <AlanBell> ok, so lets try and do London, Farnhborough, Nottingham, Oxford as the first four
[22:14] <brobostigon> sounds good
[22:14] <diplo> ooh Nottingham I could work with a visit to headoffice
[22:20] <AlanBell> ooh, rugby world cup stuff all over the diary
[22:21] <AlanBell> czajkowski: pub!
[22:22] <bigcalm> Sleepy time
[22:22] <AlanBell> oh Rugby is all on in the mornings
[22:23] <czajkowski> AlanBell: I know!
[22:23] <AlanBell> not very well planned!
[22:24] <AlanBell> anyhow, when would you like the first happy hour to be?
[22:24] <czajkowski> blame once again timezones!
[22:24] <AlanBell> as our official London correspondent
[22:25] <czajkowski> 10/7 ?
[22:25] <czajkowski> bah
[22:25] <czajkowski> 10/9
[22:25] <AlanBell> which is next Saturday
[22:26] <czajkowski> 23/9
[22:26] <czajkowski> 23 would be more notice so
[22:26] <AlanBell> 24th?
[22:27] <czajkowski> yup 24th
[22:30] <AlanBell> bother, can't do 24th
[22:30] <AlanBell> 17th?
[22:30] <czajkowski> no matches on then really
[22:32] <AlanBell> australia vs Ireland has to be good for a laugh
[23:24]  * AlanBell is basically set to announce http://ubuntu-uk.org/happy-hour/ a bit more loudly tomorrow
[23:54] <ball> That reminds me, I need to shop for an Ubuntu polo shirt to wear on "casual Fridays"