[00:28] snap-l: how many people are you expecting saturday? [02:22] http://blog.kobobooks.com/new-4-5-2-kobo-application-update-is-now-available-for-your-ios-devices/ <- I will not be the guy that bitches that they introduce bullshit features in iOS while not fixing my firmware... I will not... [02:25] wow, and I thought kindle's snippet sharing was bad. [02:26] I don't want my facebook friends to know I'm team edward. [02:53] hah [03:41] I think I figured out what is using up /tmp [03:41] and it might have U1's fingerprints all over it [03:41] uhoh [03:42] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuone-client/+bug/823647 [03:43] I think my problem is because U1 was having connectivity issues [03:44] but I'm down to 41M on a 2gb filesystem [03:44] which would explain why tmpfs filled up earlier. [03:44] Man, U1 is quirky [03:46] Note: this is all to upload 1 albums worth of mp3 files. [03:47] which, according to u1's current transfers switch, should have already finished [03:52] `This is insane [03:52] There's 16 copies of the same file with different filenames [03:57] And removing the tmp files got me from 95% to 39% [11:23] snap-l: quit breaking U1, let it work the way they intended [11:36] :-) [11:36] morning [11:43] morning [11:46] ayep [11:55] I request a number of downvotes please [11:55] http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/jyvib/my_vim_setup_for_python/ [11:55] wasting my time in the morning with this crap [12:06] lame. [12:06] (the reddit entry, not you wasting time) [12:07] bah [12:25] i think i may have vim movement command under control [12:26] can anyone think of a command line command with a . in the name? [12:26] i think splits must come next. i find i use gedit when i need to deal with more than 1 file at the same time [12:27] brousch: awesome [12:27] splits are the best can't live without them [12:27] yeah, i have to rewatch your vimcast on them [12:27] it comes highly recommended :) [12:28] rick_h_: Heh. :) [12:28] i have had surprisingly few people make fun of the postit notes taped to the side of my laptop monitor [12:29] take it slow, one/two new a week [12:29] it works incredibly well. even when i'm not actually using vim i glance over and read through the list [12:29] more than that you forget things and never really learn [12:29] just learn to look up things [12:29] well the post0its are my lookup. they're just instantly accessible [12:30] http://www.reddit.com/r/vim/comments/jyvib/my_vim_setup_for_python/c2g8kq8 [12:32] yea, I mean who thinks that looks cool at all? [12:33] and the code, ugh! [12:33] I couldn't even look at the code. Sorry. [12:33] pep8! please! [12:33] and all the print crap, imports in methods [12:34] I'm going to be copying over our loco team application for our reapproval application [12:34] rick_h_: Aw, c'mon... imports in methods are so you don't have that long load time. ;) [12:34] It's like putting tabs in there so the compiler doesn't have to work so hard reading spaces. [12:34] OPTIMIZATION [12:34] I forsee many pull requests to snap-l's todo project [12:34] :P [12:34] heh [12:35] Pull requests as in skeet shooting. :) [12:35] PULL! (PEP8) [12:35] PULL! (WTF?!?) [12:35] hey, that was one of my first pull requests to fabric [12:35] pep8'd that mofo [12:35] PULL! (WERE YOU ON DRUGS?) [12:35] pep8nazi [12:36] that is your new handle === rick_h_ is now known as pep8mofo [12:36] * pep8mofo says: you damn well better only do one import per line [12:36] * pep8mofo says: I pity the fool that don't put a space after his , [12:37] I'm totally single spacing my code. :) [12:37] * pep8mofo says: if you make any line 120char long you will be dragged out back and shot [12:38] Man, I think I need to write an irc bot. First time I've felt that urge [12:38] my monitor is 1280 pixels wide. i should be able to use it all! [12:38] * pep8mofo goes to get the gun [12:38] pep8mofo: ok, I'll make sure my lines are longer than 120 [12:39] * Wolfger writes a bunch of 119 and 121 character lines, to avoid being shot. ;-) [12:39] don't anger the pep8mofo :P [12:40] wow, just realized I had pep8 installed in /usr/local/bin. [12:40] *sigh* [12:40] and a lot of crap in /usr/local/lib that got copied over from many many machines [12:40] so it wouldn't work. [12:41] sudo pip install pep8 [12:41] pep8 is for sheep and confomists. i'm a rebel! [12:41] yes, my master. [12:41] craig@lister:~$ sudo apt-get install pep8 [12:42] booooo! [12:42] you expect ubuntu to have decent packages for that crap? :P [12:42] No, but my virtualenv does. :) [12:42] at least it's a sane default [12:43] problem is the --no-site-packages [12:43] wouldn't it be python-pep8? [12:43] you need it as part of your base virtualenv stuff [12:43] and not something compiled for 2.6 on a 2.7 machine [12:43] you're not on 2.6 or 2.7? [12:43] ahem [12:43] python2.5 for life! [12:43] if it's good enough for guido ... [12:43] /usr/local/ had a pep8 for 2.6 [12:44] I'm not on 2.6, I'm on 2.7 [12:44] I removed the libraries under /usr/local/ [12:44] installed pep8 for the rest of the system [12:44] and installed pep8 in my virtualenv [12:44] do it with pip and a site-packages per python version and don't care about /usr/local [12:44] pep8mofo: I DID THAT [12:45] I removed the libraries under /usr/local/ [12:45] ^^ [12:45] ^^ [12:45] ^^ [12:45] relax, cujo [12:45] lol [12:46] he's not cujo, he's mofo === pep8mofo is now known as pep257mofo [12:48] E: Unable to locate package pep257 [12:48] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0257/#multi-line-docstrings [12:49] * pep257mofo says: if you start a docstring and then newline without any text...pain! [12:49] docstrings? Who uses those? [12:49] my code is my comment. ;) [12:50] yeah, screw comments [12:50] rtfc if you want to know what it does [12:50] I'll remember you said that [12:51] I believe the next language we'll be programming in will be called buckshot [12:52] as in what we'll be pulling out of our ass the next time we see pep257mofo [13:33] anyone played with aws acls? [13:37] no, you are the guinea pig for all technologies [13:37] ugh [13:38] admit it. you hate using things that everyone has used and approved of [13:39] java, dotnet, django, Apple, Gnome, Ubuntu [13:47] ok, I can't help it [13:48] wasn't gib recording the meeting where we did the loco takes over Mug? [13:48] where there was a big presentatin on lernid? [13:49] that video was horrendous [13:49] i even tried to download it and edit it and gave up [13:49] hah [13:49] but now he's emailing the guy that gave that prensetation "what is lernid" [13:50] doh [13:50] sorry, caused a laugh [14:25] pep257mofo: pls change your nick. ;) [14:25] r[tab] isn't working. ;) [15:01] whitemice: Did you get John Harig's email about your OLF hotel registration? [15:02] He wants to know if you want to keep the hotel reservation he made for you or cancel it. [15:02] Dang, he's not online now. [15:12] ptenhoopen_: wrong channel [15:12] Doh! [15:13] brousch: Thanks! === pep257mofo is now known as rick_h [15:22] fine :P [15:36] i made mistake of reading more about raspberrypi board. zomg I can't wait! i want one so badly. [15:37] <_stink_> holy balls [15:37] <_stink_> i hadn't heard of this yeet [15:37] <_stink_> yet [15:39] that sounds really cool [15:39] i had heard of it. [15:39] i might want to buy one [15:39] but the B board is new to me. ethernet and 256MB plz, k, ty. [15:39] zomg, it sounds so awesome. [15:40] sweet, talked to the boss about setting up a github organization for OSS'ing some of the code/packages here [15:40] since I"m the only one to have written any of hte packages, it'd be great to help me prepare for future job :) [15:41] nice [15:41] also talked about getting devs large format kindles :) [15:41] that one has a longer shot I believe, but boss seemed interested in the illegal sharing idea [15:41] buy one pdf share to all 5 devs/kindles [15:44] And you can use it for RPG game night [15:44] not that I'd know of any company with a store of RPG books [15:44] lol [15:44] well we got chatting on how he was printing of tons of material he read on vacatoin [15:44] and I asked why not print to pdf and take with you on your kindle [15:44] so that brought up the pdf shortfalls of the small kindle [15:44] which brought up the idea I've had for getting a big one [15:45] and then company issued ones :) [15:45] rick_h: Nice. [15:45] I played a little more with the nook color last night [15:45] wife is less angry if work buys it vs me :) [15:45] Jodee's going to take a class where the payoff is a $150 B&N gift card [15:45] I think everyone in that class is going to be there just for the gift card. [15:46] I told her she should ask questions during class: [15:46] wow, what class is this? [15:46] "will the gift card work on all purchases"? [15:46] Some educator bullshit class that nobody in their right mind would take if there wasn't a $150 B&N carrot at the end. [15:46] can she attend multiple times? [15:46] brousch: It's a 6 period class that requires attendance to get the card at the end. [15:47] "will this work for electronics purchases?" [15:47] "Will it be one card, or several smaller cards?" [15:47] "Can I get the Cat In the Hat card?" [15:48] stupid questions all centering around the gift card. [15:48] I think one of the sessions is on learning Excel. [15:48] ugh [15:48] <_stink_> lawl [15:48] Yeah, it's quite a bullet [16:16] hah, there you go HP, try to get me to buy other crap by emailing me to let me know no touchpads in stock === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse [16:23] rick_h: Was that the email list from HP that was to let people know when more touchpads were available? [16:25] ptenhoopen_: "we're still out and it'll be several weeks before we get stock. In the meantime, here's a coupon for some toners/printers/etc" [16:27] Nice [16:28] rick_h: I believe HP has earned a coveted place on fuckedcompany [17:05] I can't believe that this MFC has just about every single network function, save for NTP [17:07] hah, awesome [17:08] http://twitter.com/#!/dotvimrc/status/108585158499774464 [17:08] very nice vim tip! [17:08] tweaked the colors for my own setup, but very nice! [17:09] Oh, that's handy. [17:09] hi StatusLine guifg=#fcf4ba guibg=#333333 [17:09] hi StatusLineNC guifg=#808080 guibg=#333333 [17:09] my version [17:10] Mine already appears to do that. [17:10] the original color I didn't like, went more yellow [17:10] and original had a white background on me [17:10] went with the darker bg [17:11] I think my theme is interfering [17:11] gotcha [17:12] actually, it's because I was using the terminal [17:12] ah [17:14] http://zgeek.com/content.php/8656-HP-Selling-Fucked-Company-to-Buy-a-New-One-to-Fuck-Up <- heh [17:14] tru [17:17] brousch: http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/jz746/ask_what_do_you_use_micro_frameworks_for/ [17:17] just for you [17:19] http://shelby-utica.patch.com/articles/halloween-bazaar-to-take-over-borders-book-store-in-utica [17:19] There's a shocker [17:19] hah, there you go [17:22] I swear, we won't have a zombie invasion, we'll have a halloween store zombie invasion [17:39] hah, we're entering the crazy name phase of android: http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-outs-sprints-galaxy-s-ii-epic-4g-touch-ahead-tonights-event [17:40] "galaxy S II Epic 4g"...whatever happened to just driod, nexus one, captivate [17:43] yeah, "galaxy S II" is samsung's branding, "Epic 4G touch" is sprint's branding [17:43] they're all touch! lol [17:43] GS2 is available on a bunch of different carriers [17:44] I want to see epic 4g type [17:44] yea, I know [17:44] just funny when I saw that how crazy [17:44] S II 4G, gah! [17:46] yeah, samsung just unveiled a really confusing naming scheme. Something about S vs R vs W vs M. [17:46] all in the galaxy family [17:48] yay! [17:49] maturity == "running out of names! we must stick within our brand!" [18:02] http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/juonf/my_boss_was_tired_of_our_wire_cutters_getting/ [18:02] I'm waiting for the "Do NT Touch". [18:18] I'm impressed... Musicbrainz has an entry for Carcass' Peel Sessions disc [18:18] Thought for sure that wouldn't be there. [18:20] It's awesome too because it glows in the dark [18:24] http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/104598/where-to-look-for-challenging-jobs-with-a-relaxed-atmosphere [18:45] http://castrojo.tumblr.com/post/9593170639/etherpad-lite-now-easy-to-deploy-for-your-events [18:45] man [18:46] the number of times we could have used this ^^^^^^ [18:46] cool jcastro was checking out the new lite version when it was released last week [18:46] node.js ftw [18:46] up and running, 4 commands [18:46] it scales so much better than old javapad [18:46] yea [18:46] http://ec2-50-17-151-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com:9001/ [18:47] hit this! [18:47] http://ec2-50-17-151-64.compute-1.amazonaws.com:9001/p/rick [18:47] I will have this baremetalable soon [18:48] so you don't have to get nickled to death on AWS. [18:48] though, for an event [18:48] you could do like, fire this up [18:48] attach an EBS [18:48] have your event [18:48] tear it all down [18:48] then repeat the next year and you'd have your data just stored in EBS. [18:49] yea, that's cool [18:50] uh oh, think I crashed something [18:50] an event? [18:59] snap-l: did you listen to http://unwoman.bandcamp.com/album/uncovered-volume-1# ? [18:59] good stuff in there [18:59] No, I didn't because it's (C) [19:01] still good music :P [19:34] http://getsatisfaction.com/kobo/topics/kobo_1_9_sees_wireless_as_wep_and_is_much_more_crashy [19:45] I really hate corporate password rules that require special rules to conform [19:48] jcastro: wholy shit jorge... ensemble forumlas look like the bees knees. [19:49] jrwren: apt for the cloud yo [19:49] its awesome. [19:49] and optionally for my private cloud. [19:49] so hot. [19:50] or just normal bare metal [19:50] but not right now, give me till the end of the month [19:50] Like, I like the cloud, don't get me wrong smoser [19:50] but if I can type that at work and deploy on HW I own then woo. [19:50] right [19:51] and I don't care what anyone says. bare metal is still the fastest. [19:51] i don't want to run in VM for some things. [19:51] yeah [19:51] if anything, I am sick of waiting for EC2 for every little thing [19:51] jrwren: bah, VMs for every single process. [20:01] DBO, are you going to talk about ubuntu in ohio? [20:02] there is something going on in ohio? [20:02] cause i really dont want to, and really am not qualified to talk about any desktop-y things [20:04] smoser, this? https://ohiolinux.org/ [20:04] yeah [20:04] there was a mail from jcastro where he threw you and i under a bus [20:04] :) [20:05] really? [20:06] I like busses [20:06] no no no, Jay Sullivan got thrown under a bus [20:06] my god [20:06] "The Ubuntu Gaming System" [20:06] wow... hes screwed [20:07] jcastro, where did you send that mail. i cant find it. [20:08] oh I see [20:08] we did get bussed [20:08] smoser, it is in your canonical email [20:09] jcastro, let me check my schedule, maybe I can show [20:11] DBO: Rick and I will be there doing Lococast if you want to stop by. :) [20:11] not sure if that's incentive or not. ;) [20:12] Ubuntu Gaming... isnt' that where Canonical put the humble bundle titles into the software store? ;) [20:18] yeah [20:18] you should do the lococast [20:19] "And now we have Jason Smith, tells us Jason, how do you feel about tiling window managers?" [20:19] "Uhhhh" [20:19] jcastro: No fair, now he'll have time to think about a reasonable answer. [20:20] okay Im going [20:21] jcastro, so "Writing Applications for Unity" [20:21] smoser, you're off the hook :) [20:21] DBO: I thought it was "Ubuntu Unity: I'm not an effigy" [20:22] Ubuntu Unity: use it you ungrateful bastards [20:22] heh [20:23] where the hell is jcastro... [20:23] Florida [20:23] you dont get to throw me under a bus AND run away [20:23] hah [20:24] We're still claiming him on our team reports, though [20:24] i like snap-l's suggestion [20:24] It's like tax time and dependants. :) [20:24] jcastro, what should I tell the guy the talk is called? [20:24] i'm so coming with a fake mustache and tomatoes [20:24] "Unity: Everything you don't like is my fault, and you should throw tomatoes at me" [20:25] smoser, Im bringing a super soaker and house paint [20:25] meh. house paint washes off. tomatoes are funny for longer. [20:26] "Unity: Why you're switching to Arch" [20:26] "Unity: if you switch to Arch you were too dumb to use a combo-box" [20:26] "Unity: The prostate checkup Linux was avoiding for 20 years" [20:27] "Unity: the press is wrong and I'll tell you every lie they ever said because they review shit without using it, I'm looking at you snap-l" [20:27] "Unity: Your graphics card sucks" [20:28] DBO: Dude, I'm soaking in it [20:28] I even bought a newer graphics card because of Unity [20:28] I have never said anything bad about Unity that wasn't grounded in truth. :) [20:28] I think you're thinking of someone else. [20:29] I was telling dirty lies about you [20:29] Im tired of the press though :/ [20:29] http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5450-overview/pages/hd-5450-overview.aspx <- That's the chipset I bought [20:29] they suck so hard [20:29] you bought a radeon? [20:29] DBO: Well, it is controversial [20:29] DBO: do a cycle on server side stuff [20:29] and the press LOOOOOVES controversy [20:29] the users don't hate you [20:29] I want to cycle into HR [20:29] no [20:30] accounting [20:30] people actually like what you do, etc. [20:30] DBO: I thought it could do crossfire with my 3450, but it doesn't. [20:30] was $20 after rebate, though [20:30] and I have an AMD chipset. [20:30] snap-l, basically this is linux [20:30] always buy nvidia [20:31] its about the only thing with a proper working gl stack [20:31] I've been happy thus far [20:31] It's mostly working with a few quirks [20:31] but the 5450 is much less quirky than the 3450 [20:32] At least it isn't an Intel. ;) [20:32] true [20:32] I *really* want to give a talk on what everyone does wrong [20:32] and just offer no solutions [20:32] but I think that would be bad form [20:33] hmmm, did I disconnect? wtf [20:33] "How to make Unity sings, and your desktop happy" [20:34] I really wish we could just make a plugin system for Unity already... [20:34] Step 1: Ditch your POS graphics card [20:34] Step 2: uninstall Unity? [20:35] ;-) [20:35] devinheitmueller, it's called a combo-box, learn to use it [20:35] when the funny thing that makes you type a password shows up, click on it... now I know you will be tempted to let go of the mouse [20:35] but dont [20:35] Hmmm, combo-box. I remember those from Windows 3.1! [20:35] keep holding onto that button [20:35] then move the mouse to where it says "Classic" [20:36] THEN [20:36] then let go [20:36] it's practically brain surgery [20:36] but what you'll find is the urge to bitch will go down a LOT [20:37] but classic is going away, and I hate KDE/QT [20:37] And really, I just want a mac. [20:37] classic is going away? :( [20:37] no [20:37] its not [20:37] kdub: Yes, and Canonical eats children [20:37] stop listening to mark [20:37] with butter [20:37] and a rue [20:38] actually we prefer them battered [20:38] ...just realized thats a double entedre [20:38] entendre [20:39] * DBO sits down to wait for the black helicopters [20:39] heh [20:40] thought police! [20:40] I know you guys probably have dick to do with some of the design, but whomever made the new software center have a candy-store header needs to lay off the banapeel smoking [20:41] http://cdn.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Selection_008.jpeg [20:41] ouch: http://twitter.com/#!/chrismcdonough/status/108639457867071488 [20:42] rick_h_: Wow, that smarts. [20:46] heh, so true [20:47] i'm looking at what a pyramid scaffold generates for you and it is a lot [20:47] which i'm sure is one reason it's so easy to plug it into wsgi [21:10] can anyone help with a simple regex? I can't seem to see from where a second match is coming. https://gist.github.com/1182046 [21:10] jrwren: a case where you have a "*" instead of a "+" ? [21:10] * = zero or more matches. [21:11] understood, but I really want that. [21:11] e.g. 1,,2 should result in {"1","","2"} [21:11] I'm never buying another MP3 from Amazon if I can help it [21:12] devinheitmueller: and if I'm matching "a", then it is matching , or $ and I don't see a , there, so it should match $ and be done. [21:12] or is it some strange rule because $ is zero width? [21:13] Yeah, I'm not sure. Under Perl I just always use Text::ParseWords, which is a built-in module so it's always available. [21:14] I'm trying to parse Excel style CSV, that is the catch. [21:14] so its not Parse Words at all. [21:14] The name is a bit of a misnomer, but indeed it is intended to parse CSV files that have quoted values. [21:15] mixed with non quoted? [21:15] It's explicitly intended to deal with the "I'm using quoted CSV, but what if there's a quote in the actual CSV content? [21:15] jrwren: yeah. [21:15] But again, you're using Python, so not really relevant to you. [21:16] https://github.com/chorny/Text-ParseWords/blob/master/ParseWords.pm [21:16] I'm in C#. [21:16] similar enough regex engine. I'll just use their regex. [21:16] worth a try. [21:17] It's a pretty nasty regex. No guarantee they aren't using some PCRE ism rather than a true POSIX regex. [21:17] snap-l: that's just a palce holder [21:18] that'll be where like the app shots go, etc. [21:18] devinheitmueller: C# is nearly PCRE [21:18] jcastro: OK, thank you. [21:18] devinheitmueller: and I can read both pcre adn C# well enough to xlate. [21:18] devinheitmueller: I was a perl programmer before moving to C# :) [21:18] jrwren: fair enough. [21:18] I am not challenging your Perl-fu. Just making the observation that there are slight differences between Perl regex and POSIX regex to watch out for. :-) [21:19] yup. [21:19] not just slight. [21:19] POSIX regex is completely different. [21:19] no character class shortcuts like \s \w \d in POSIX or even ERE [21:20] [[:alpha:]] <- i never liked it [21:20] yup [22:03] wtf, seriously: http://www.osnews.com/story/25116/HP_Announces_Another_TouchPad_Production_Run [22:21] devinheitmueller: huge thanks for that link BTW. [22:21] Text::ParseWords ftw [22:21] np. [22:21] Glad it works for you.