[06:59] Hey Super fly no worries i had to go home too. [06:59] i have got it done by changing the folder owner ship for the copy and then changing them back again. [07:00] ^ superfly [07:01] hey magespawn, glad you came right [07:01] gah my poor gf's flight outta kenya was delayed by 2 hours so she's gonna not make her connecting flight in joburg and is gonna need to get a later one and heh, she's kinda freaked out about that [07:02] lol, she's never had to sort out connecting flights etc in a foreign country before (normally all flights are direct and normally she's travelling with someone else) [07:02] hey Symmetria [07:02] learning curve then [07:03] lol made a plan though, got someone meeting her at the airport and phoned the airlines and gave em my platinum voyager number and told them to make a damn plan :P [07:03] they asured me they would lol [07:03] lol, one advantage of being a very frequent traveller, once you hold that platinum card, SAA starts being very careful how they treat you [07:03] thanks superfly. the folder was owned by root for some reason. [07:04] so that the web server could write to it? [07:04] i am not sure. i am self teaching on this one. i set up a pc with ubuntu server on it. [07:05] i ticked all the options for server types, want to learn how to use them all. [07:05] magespawn: were you trying to run Joomla on the server? [07:06] thats another story all together. [07:06] yeah, I recommend against Joomla, rather use Drupal [07:07] mweb does not allow you to ftp joomla to the servers and run the install through the web. their tech help said i have to install it locally and then transfer to their server. [07:07] yeah, and Joomla is retarded about that, from what I've heard. I do that with Drupal all the time though. [07:08] that was a consideration, did some research, opinion is that Joomla has a easier learning curve. [07:08] easier yes, but it'll bite you in the rear too [07:08] maybe i will give it ago. do you have any running on mweb? [07:08] And Drupal's not that difficult [07:08] no, I use SubOracle's hosting [07:09] i was going to install joomla on mweb and drupal locally to try. [07:09] mkay [07:10] this is just really me playing/learning, no of this actually concerns any work i am doing at the moment. [07:19] to put things in perspective i studied nature conservation, i am professional Field Guide, and now i own an internet cafe and pc shop. [07:20] heh, its strange how our careers mutate [07:20] ppl are always asking about websites and if i can do them. so i thought i would learn. [07:20] yup [07:20] look at the number of electrical engineers who are now working in networking and IT for example [07:21] heh, for myself, I've been working part time in IT since I was 12, and full time since I was 16, but only in the last 9 years or so have I been completely focused on networking (after doing programming, security, software consultancy and unix administration in the beginning at various times) [07:22] heh, in 1996 odd I was doing installation and maintenance of AIX systems and specialix systems connected to those [07:22] I think if you put me down infront of an AIX box today I wouldnt have a clue :P [07:23] (AIX = strange beast, though WAY ahead of its time back then) [07:24] heh, aix's file system in the 1990s had features that other *nix systems didnt get for *YEARS* afterwards (like live space allocation/deallocation to a file system from newly inserted hot swap drives) [07:25] * Symmetria also remebers running linux kernel 0.99 :P [07:25] and fbsd 2 or something lol, which had to be installed off 1.44meg disks [07:25] mm. i have also just done the physical set up of a dvr security system [07:26] okay now that is going to far back for me [07:26] strangely, I almost ended up at one point leaving IT all together [07:26] I gave seriously consideration to going back and doing a degree in my second passion, clinic psych [07:26] but i do remember booting a pc of 5 1/2 inch disks with no hard drive. [07:27] heh, and I found an interesting article that refers to a discussion I had with someone in the 90s about leaving IT [07:27] http://gopherproxy.org/gopher.meulie.net/00/textfiles/programming/cyberpunk.txt [07:27] nah you cannot talk to yourself if you do that, everybody expects it ppl to talk to themselves [07:28] heh, that was written by wyze1 in 1999 [07:28] LOL, I didnt even know he had written it until a few weeks ago, but I clearly remeber that night and that discussion, lol, and remeber passing out on the office floor cause of pure exhaustion [07:31] running under a different name then to [07:31] too [07:34] heh, for good reason [07:34] just read the article, my thoughts, ppl will quite often mistrust things they do not understand. [07:35] :P Vortexia was... an interesting persona :) fairly carefully crafted and served a specific purpose *shrug* it was time to put that persona to bed :) [07:36] one of those things. i have been using the same nick since i first started using irc in '94, somewhere there. [20:54] howdy all [20:57] if I had know it was this late i would have gone straight to bed [20:57] night all