| scott-upstairs | i used dvd-rw so it might be the disc, burning another one | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: you can use the ISO without burning if it's a vm | 00:04 |
| scott-upstairs | falktx_, i know, but i'm not doing a vm | 00:13 |
| falktx_ | oh | 00:13 |
| falktx_ | scott-upstairs: you can also set grub2 to load an iso | 00:14 |
| falktx_ | ie, boot from it | 00:14 |
| scott-upstairs | hmmm, interesting, didn't know that | 00:14 |
| scott-upstairs | bah, second disc didn't work, it starts the disc but after choosing to install ubuntu studio, it hangs | 00:15 |
| scott-upstairs | i was actually trying yesterday's image, i'll try the official QA one from today | 00:17 |
| falktx_ | I guess this is why we use vms... | 00:18 |
| scott-upstairs | eh, i do this for two reasons | 00:47 |
| scott-upstairs | firstly i like to test on iron, you know it works for sure then | 00:47 |
| falktx_ | yep | 00:47 |
| scott-upstairs | also i have twenty dvd-rw discs that i'm doing nothing else with ;) | 00:47 |
| falktx_ | haha, cool | 00:47 |
| scott-upstairs | going to reboot, brb | 00:48 |
| scott-upstairs | haha, i'm a big geek... | 00:51 |
| scott-upstairs | rather than find the "shut down" menu thingie, i use the reboot command in terminal | 00:51 |
| scott-upstairs | ach, nothing is booting correctly with this image :( even on multiple machiens | 01:14 |
| ScottL | can someone else try the latest images and see if they install? | 02:26 |
| falktx_ | ScottL: I can try them tomorrow | 02:41 |
| falktx_ | which should be in a few hours actually... | 02:41 |
| * falktx_ needs to sleep | 02:42 | |
| holstein | ScottL: does this look right? | 02:42 |
| holstein | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20110829/oneiric-alternate-i386.iso | 02:42 |
| astraljava | unity's still there, this time brought to your by mousetweaks. meh. I really need to get my local germinate working. | 09:07 |
| astraljava | you* | 09:08 |
| astraljava | http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/(X)ubuntu_studio_cropped.png | 09:54 |
| astraljava | A little something to work on, still. Dontcha think? :) | 09:55 |
| astraljava | Anyone seen Cory lately? He hasn't responded to my email several days back, after asking for me on this channel. | 10:21 |
| ScottL | astraljava, you can send another email, sometimes he means to responds but gets busy and forgets | 11:22 |
| ScottL | i'll poke him in google chat which gets him on his phone usually | 11:22 |
| ScottL | holstein, i think that's the one but QA has one also, hold on a sec... | 11:23 |
| ScottL | holstein, this is what i've seen: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all | 11:25 |
| ScottL | but strangely i usually get an email directoly from QA for those test but didn't this time | 11:25 |
| astraljava | ScottL: Did you have a look at the screen shot yet? | 11:29 |
| ScottL | astraljava, no, but i am now | 11:50 |
| ScottL | astraljava, is that from our image? | 11:51 |
| ScottL | astraljava, it sounds like we need to use falktx's menu to fix this | 11:51 |
| falktx | ScottL: what's the matter? | 11:52 |
| ScottL | falktx, http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/(X)ubuntu_studio_cropped.png | 11:52 |
| ScottL | that screen shot probably shows the xfce menu as you described it to me previously | 11:52 |
| falktx | yep | 11:52 |
| falktx | ScottL: the audio production is still there though, right? | 11:53 |
| ScottL | i didn't see that menu, but i'll look again | 11:53 |
| falktx | I can't see it from the screenshot | 11:53 |
| ScottL | falktx, if you could get the image and see about getting the menu updated that would be awesome | 11:54 |
| ScottL | falktx, is that something you might be able to do quickly? | 11:54 |
| falktx | ScottL: I think I can just install us-menu here | 11:54 |
| ScottL | if we could get something for astraljava to test as well that would be helpful to check it before pushing to a new image | 11:55 |
| falktx | ok | 11:55 |
| falktx | brb | 11:59 |
| astraljava | ScottL: I am presented with two sessions there. The other one being Ubuntu, which doesn't work, and the other is XFCE, which you can see in that shot. | 12:02 |
| astraljava | So we need to look into how we can get our own session in the greeter, and modify that then. | 12:03 |
| falktx | ScottL: just noticed the us-menu does nothing... :( | 12:11 |
| ScottL | falktx, yes | 12:12 |
| ScottL | astraljava, we could talk to somebody with xubuntu-dev to ask about this setting, i think they have lightdm working | 12:13 |
| ScottL | astraljava, falktx: can the two of you work together to get something testing and pushed to launchpad to fix the menu? | 12:13 |
| falktx | I think my patch still works, http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/us-menu_xfce.patch | 12:14 |
| ScottL | i can talk to xubuntu-dev about the lightdm situation if no one else wants to | 12:14 |
| falktx | ScottL: if you're willing to accept that patch, I assure you it will work | 12:14 |
| ScottL | falktx, if astraljava is not in a position to test then maybe you should just push it to the bzr branch and we'll test it in the image | 12:15 |
| falktx | ok | 12:15 |
| ScottL | i just don't like the habit of pushing code without testing it, nothing against you or your work | 12:15 |
| falktx | ScottL: let me make a testing deb | 12:15 |
| ScottL | i'm still getting kids and me ready, i'll be in and out for another fifteen minutes then we are off | 12:16 |
| falktx | apt-get source ubuntustudio-menu | 12:16 |
| falktx | cd ubuntustudio-menu-0.14 | 12:16 |
| falktx | wget http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/us-menu_xfce.patch | 12:16 |
| falktx | patch -p1 < us-menu_xfce.patch | 12:16 |
| falktx | dch -i # add a new entry there | 12:17 |
| falktx | debuild -rfakeroot | 12:17 |
| falktx | cd .. | 12:17 |
| falktx | sudo dpkg -i ubuntustudio-menu_0.*_all.deb | 12:18 |
| * falktx tests, brb | 12:18 | |
| astraljava | I can test this later this evening for sure. | 12:19 |
| falktx | ScottL: it still works | 12:22 |
| falktx | ScottL: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr024.png | 12:24 |
| falktx | ScottL: there are still some missing apps in the us-menu, but that can be fixed later | 12:24 |
| falktx | I think getting the menu to work is more important now | 12:24 |
| falktx | astraljava: ^ | 12:25 |
| astraljava | falktx: Yes, that works. | 13:02 |
| falktx | astraljava: can you push (apply the patch) ? | 13:02 |
| astraljava | Certainly. | 13:02 |
| falktx | ok, thanks | 13:02 |
| astraljava | Thank you! :) | 13:02 |
| astraljava | Oops, I'll take that back. I cannot push to that branch. | 13:04 |
| astraljava | Only for Ubuntu branches team members. | 13:04 |
| astraljava | Scott can, though. | 13:04 |
| falktx | oh | 13:05 |
| falktx | ScottL: it's up to you ;) | 13:05 |
| astraljava | Wait, what? | 13:07 |
| astraljava | I see, no direct uploads except only by Colin and James. I wonder if it works then that you file a bug against the package and attach the patch to the bug report? ScottL, can you recall how it was done in the past? | 13:10 |
| holstein | well... im finally about done installing the image from yesterday ;) | 15:40 |
| falktx | he | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | and today there is a new image... | 15:41 |
| holstein | yup... | 15:42 |
| holstein | hey, we're getting good images it seems | 15:42 |
| holstein | thats cool | 15:42 |
| astraljava | well, at least images from which you can install a working system. looks like crap, but works. :) | 15:53 |
| falktx | lol | 15:55 |
| holstein | eh... i'll have to try again later | 16:01 |
| holstein | maybe *you* get a working system | 16:01 |
| astraljava | holstein: How did it fail on you? | 16:01 |
| holstein | astraljava: im not getting to a desktop | 16:02 |
| holstein | could be on my end | 16:02 |
| holstein | im a bit distracted and trying it virtualized | 16:02 |
| astraljava | holstein: Not even the greeter? | 16:02 |
| holstein | astraljava: :/ | 16:03 |
| holstein | nothing | 16:03 |
| holstein | i'll try again later though | 16:03 |
| falktx | I can try later tonight | 16:04 |
| scott-work | when i tried the daily image from 28th and the QA image from yesterday i was unable to get either disk to begin the installation | 16:37 |
| scott-work | they would boot and give me a menu | 16:37 |
| scott-work | but when i selected to "install ubuntu studio" (or whatever the first menu entry said) it would go to a blank screen and do nothing | 16:37 |
| scott-work | i'm not sure that is the image's fault however | 16:38 |
| scott-work | i would greatly appreciate anyone who can test the images | 16:40 |
| scott-work | second QA image for amd64 from today: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6363 | 16:41 |
| scott-work | second QA image for i386 from today: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6364 | 16:41 |
| holstein | yeah, i will | 16:44 |
| holstein | i wont have time today though | 16:44 |
| holstein | i got finished a little early here and i fired up the one i installed from yesterday | 16:44 |
| holstein | and waited on it longer | 16:44 |
| holstein | seem like im getting a desktop | 16:44 |
| holstein | im getting to what im assuming is light-dm | 16:46 |
| holstein | w00t | 16:47 |
| holstein | i have to say, its very exciting to see XFCE there | 16:47 |
| holstein | even as strange and bare-bones as it is | 16:48 |
| scott-work | thanks mike! i'm glad the image is working | 17:04 |
| scott-work | i hope that falktx and astraljava can update the menu for our submenus | 17:05 |
| scott-work | too | 17:05 |
| scott-work | holstein: how do you do your installs? you burn a disc, do it in VM with the ISO image, use netbooten? | 17:05 |
| falktx | scott-work: i'm not sure how to do it | 17:06 |
| scott-work | falktx: do the menu? i thought you had something that already worked | 17:06 |
| falktx | yes, scott-work, but I don't know how to push things | 17:06 |
| falktx | the patch applies and works fine | 17:07 |
| scott-work | falktx: hold on a sec... | 17:07 |
| falktx | just need to make it part of US now | 17:07 |
| * scott-work is looking for something | 17:07 | |
| scott-work | falktx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox#Seeds_Update | 17:07 |
| scott-work | i used this work flow to update the code in the bzr branch for the seeds | 17:08 |
| scott-work | you can follow an extremely similar methodology for updating the bzr code for the menu | 17:08 |
| scott-work | falktx: are you familiar with bzr? | 17:08 |
| * scott-work realizes you use git quite fluently | 17:08 | |
| falktx | yep, I like git | 17:08 |
| scott-work | i don't know git that well actually, but i presume much is similar in overarching tasks or action between git and bzr | 17:09 |
| scott-work | but the link above should show you much of what is required for the menu | 17:10 |
| falktx | yep, let me try | 17:10 |
| scott-work | but the gist would be to use bzr to pull it | 17:10 |
| scott-work | add any files necessary | 17:10 |
| scott-work | modify what is necessary | 17:10 |
| scott-work | 'bzr add' if you added any files | 17:10 |
| scott-work | i like to check with 'bzr diff' | 17:11 |
| scott-work | then 'bzr commit' with comment and 'bzr push' as required | 17:11 |
| scott-work | falktx: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu | 17:12 |
| scott-work | that page will have the 'bzr branch' and 'bzr push' commands | 17:12 |
| falktx | ah, I remember this, I need to login now | 17:19 |
| falktx | should I make a new changelog entry? | 17:22 |
| falktx | I guess anyone can easily change that, so I will | 17:22 |
| falktx | done | 17:35 |
| falktx | ScottL: astraljava: how to update the package in the repos now? | 17:36 |
| astraljava | Good question, I'm not 100% on how these get updated. Let me poke around a bit. | 17:42 |
| scott-work | sorry, the work internet crapped out | 17:44 |
| scott-work | falktx: hopefully you got all my last messages | 17:44 |
| falktx | scott-work: yes, I already did the changes, and added a new changelog entry | 17:45 |
| astraljava | I'd imagine the new debs to be rolled the next time the buildd/whatever notices there's an update on that. scott-work, got a better knowledge on ubuntustudio-menu branch to become a new .deb? | 17:51 |
| scott-work | astraljava: i'm not sure i understand, are you asking me if _i_ have a better understanding of the -menu branch? | 17:52 |
| scott-work | astraljava: when you ask about the .deb file do you mean when building it locally by using falktx 's patch or you mean for the buildd system within launchpad? | 17:52 |
| astraljava | I'm not fully up-to-date on how branches become packages in LP. falktx just pushed a commit to ubuntustudio-menu branch, when will it become a new package in the repositories? | 17:53 |
| scott-work | astraljava: AH! you know, i'm not exactly sure either | 18:03 |
| scott-work | perhaps TheMuso or persia can answer that, if not we can ask in #ubuntu-motu | 18:03 |
| astraljava | Right, I'm on it. Thanks" | 18:03 |
| astraljava | " == ! | 18:03 |
| scott-work | hehe | 18:04 |
| holstein | scott-work: i actually try to do a mix | 19:42 |
| holstein | this one was just right in virtualbox from the downloaded iso | 19:42 |
| scott-work | holstein: a "mix"? i'm not sure i understand | 20:01 |
| scott-work | but it sounds like the iso worked for you in vm that's good :) | 20:02 |
| scott-work | i'll rsync the new images and try burning with a fresh disc and then test again | 20:39 |
| astraljava | Why rsync? Isn't zsync more effective? | 20:55 |
| holstein | scott-work: like i try to do different things each time | 21:00 |
| holstein | from an actual burn | 21:00 |
| holstein | or from USB | 21:00 |
| holstein | whatever | 21:00 |
| holstein | in VM... | 21:00 |
| scott-work | astraljava: yeah, sorry, meant zsync, it's what i thought in my head but i typed rsync | 21:01 |
| scott-work | holstein: ah, a mix meaning different types of installs...gotcha :) | 21:01 |
| astraljava | Okay, we're supposed to have fresh images tomorrow morning, unless I f***ed up desktop in seeds. But we still need to work on lightdm greeter theme (my bad!), and theming overall. The current session looks fugly. | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu looks bad too, lightdm is changing too fast to keep up with it | 22:18 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Yeah, but we don't even have a customized theme so far. | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | We aren't putting that in for this release. We will try again for the LTS instead | 22:19 |
| astraljava | Oh okay. Is it _that_ difficult nowadays? | 22:19 |
| charlie-tca | seems to be, at least for madnick these days. Doesn't help he is short of time, too though | 22:20 |
| astraljava | I understand that.t | 22:20 |
| astraljava | -t | 22:20 |
| * astraljava is getting in the know re: image spinning | 22:38 | |
| astraljava | Damn, I feel like we're gonna go with something real for the next cycle | 22:38 |
| charlie-tca | heh, it all takes time to learn | 22:39 |
| astraljava | Yeah, indeed. | 22:40 |
| falktx | hm, just saw a new meta, what about menus? | 22:48 |
| astraljava | I dunno yet, I just asked on -devel about how that stuff rolls. I'll let you know when I do. | 22:52 |
| falktx | ok | 22:53 |
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