[00:00] i used dvd-rw so it might be the disc, burning another one [00:04] scott-upstairs: you can use the ISO without burning if it's a vm [00:13] falktx_, i know, but i'm not doing a vm [00:13] oh [00:14] scott-upstairs: you can also set grub2 to load an iso [00:14] ie, boot from it [00:14] hmmm, interesting, didn't know that [00:15] bah, second disc didn't work, it starts the disc but after choosing to install ubuntu studio, it hangs [00:17] i was actually trying yesterday's image, i'll try the official QA one from today [00:18] I guess this is why we use vms... [00:47] eh, i do this for two reasons [00:47] firstly i like to test on iron, you know it works for sure then [00:47] yep [00:47] also i have twenty dvd-rw discs that i'm doing nothing else with ;) [00:47] haha, cool [00:48] going to reboot, brb [00:51] haha, i'm a big geek... [00:51] rather than find the "shut down" menu thingie, i use the reboot command in terminal [01:14] ach, nothing is booting correctly with this image :( even on multiple machiens [02:26] can someone else try the latest images and see if they install? [02:41] ScottL: I can try them tomorrow [02:41] which should be in a few hours actually... [02:42] * falktx_ needs to sleep [02:42] ScottL: does this look right? [02:42] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20110829/oneiric-alternate-i386.iso [09:07] unity's still there, this time brought to your by mousetweaks. meh. I really need to get my local germinate working. [09:08] you* [09:54] http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/(X)ubuntu_studio_cropped.png [09:55] A little something to work on, still. Dontcha think? :) [10:21] Anyone seen Cory lately? He hasn't responded to my email several days back, after asking for me on this channel. [11:22] astraljava, you can send another email, sometimes he means to responds but gets busy and forgets [11:22] i'll poke him in google chat which gets him on his phone usually [11:23] holstein, i think that's the one but QA has one also, hold on a sec... [11:25] holstein, this is what i've seen: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/ubuntustudio/all [11:25] but strangely i usually get an email directoly from QA for those test but didn't this time [11:29] ScottL: Did you have a look at the screen shot yet? [11:50] astraljava, no, but i am now [11:51] astraljava, is that from our image? [11:51] astraljava, it sounds like we need to use falktx's menu to fix this [11:52] ScottL: what's the matter? [11:52] falktx, http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/(X)ubuntu_studio_cropped.png [11:52] that screen shot probably shows the xfce menu as you described it to me previously [11:52] yep [11:53] ScottL: the audio production is still there though, right? [11:53] i didn't see that menu, but i'll look again [11:53] I can't see it from the screenshot [11:54] falktx, if you could get the image and see about getting the menu updated that would be awesome [11:54] falktx, is that something you might be able to do quickly? [11:54] ScottL: I think I can just install us-menu here [11:55] if we could get something for astraljava to test as well that would be helpful to check it before pushing to a new image [11:55] ok [11:59] brb [12:02] ScottL: I am presented with two sessions there. The other one being Ubuntu, which doesn't work, and the other is XFCE, which you can see in that shot. [12:03] So we need to look into how we can get our own session in the greeter, and modify that then. [12:11] ScottL: just noticed the us-menu does nothing... :( [12:12] falktx, yes [12:13] astraljava, we could talk to somebody with xubuntu-dev to ask about this setting, i think they have lightdm working [12:13] astraljava, falktx: can the two of you work together to get something testing and pushed to launchpad to fix the menu? [12:14] I think my patch still works, http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/us-menu_xfce.patch [12:14] i can talk to xubuntu-dev about the lightdm situation if no one else wants to [12:14] ScottL: if you're willing to accept that patch, I assure you it will work [12:15] falktx, if astraljava is not in a position to test then maybe you should just push it to the bzr branch and we'll test it in the image [12:15] ok [12:15] i just don't like the habit of pushing code without testing it, nothing against you or your work [12:15] ScottL: let me make a testing deb [12:16] i'm still getting kids and me ready, i'll be in and out for another fifteen minutes then we are off [12:16] apt-get source ubuntustudio-menu [12:16] cd ubuntustudio-menu-0.14 [12:16] wget http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/us-menu_xfce.patch [12:16] patch -p1 < us-menu_xfce.patch [12:17] dch -i # add a new entry there [12:17] debuild -rfakeroot [12:17] cd .. [12:18] sudo dpkg -i ubuntustudio-menu_0.*_all.deb [12:18] * falktx tests, brb [12:19] I can test this later this evening for sure. [12:22] ScottL: it still works [12:24] ScottL: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/tmp/scr024.png [12:24] ScottL: there are still some missing apps in the us-menu, but that can be fixed later [12:24] I think getting the menu to work is more important now [12:25] astraljava: ^ [13:02] falktx: Yes, that works. [13:02] astraljava: can you push (apply the patch) ? [13:02] Certainly. [13:02] ok, thanks [13:02] Thank you! :) [13:04] Oops, I'll take that back. I cannot push to that branch. [13:04] Only for Ubuntu branches team members. [13:04] Scott can, though. [13:05] oh [13:05] ScottL: it's up to you ;) [13:07] Wait, what? [13:10] I see, no direct uploads except only by Colin and James. I wonder if it works then that you file a bug against the package and attach the patch to the bug report? ScottL, can you recall how it was done in the past? [15:40] well... im finally about done installing the image from yesterday ;) [15:40] he [15:41] and today there is a new image... [15:42] yup... [15:42] hey, we're getting good images it seems [15:42] thats cool [15:53] well, at least images from which you can install a working system. looks like crap, but works. :) [15:55] lol [16:01] eh... i'll have to try again later [16:01] maybe *you* get a working system [16:01] holstein: How did it fail on you? [16:02] astraljava: im not getting to a desktop [16:02] could be on my end [16:02] im a bit distracted and trying it virtualized [16:02] holstein: Not even the greeter? [16:03] astraljava: :/ [16:03] nothing [16:03] i'll try again later though [16:04] I can try later tonight [16:37] when i tried the daily image from 28th and the QA image from yesterday i was unable to get either disk to begin the installation [16:37] they would boot and give me a menu [16:37] but when i selected to "install ubuntu studio" (or whatever the first menu entry said) it would go to a blank screen and do nothing [16:38] i'm not sure that is the image's fault however [16:40] i would greatly appreciate anyone who can test the images [16:41] second QA image for amd64 from today: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6363 [16:41] second QA image for i386 from today: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6364 [16:44] yeah, i will [16:44] i wont have time today though [16:44] i got finished a little early here and i fired up the one i installed from yesterday [16:44] and waited on it longer [16:44] seem like im getting a desktop [16:46] im getting to what im assuming is light-dm [16:47] w00t [16:47] i have to say, its very exciting to see XFCE there [16:48] even as strange and bare-bones as it is [17:04] thanks mike! i'm glad the image is working [17:05] i hope that falktx and astraljava can update the menu for our submenus [17:05] too [17:05] holstein: how do you do your installs? you burn a disc, do it in VM with the ISO image, use netbooten? [17:06] scott-work: i'm not sure how to do it [17:06] falktx: do the menu? i thought you had something that already worked [17:06] yes, scott-work, but I don't know how to push things [17:07] the patch applies and works fine [17:07] falktx: hold on a sec... [17:07] just need to make it part of US now [17:07] * scott-work is looking for something [17:07] falktx: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Sandbox#Seeds_Update [17:08] i used this work flow to update the code in the bzr branch for the seeds [17:08] you can follow an extremely similar methodology for updating the bzr code for the menu [17:08] falktx: are you familiar with bzr? [17:08] * scott-work realizes you use git quite fluently [17:08] yep, I like git [17:09] i don't know git that well actually, but i presume much is similar in overarching tasks or action between git and bzr [17:10] but the link above should show you much of what is required for the menu [17:10] yep, let me try [17:10] but the gist would be to use bzr to pull it [17:10] add any files necessary [17:10] modify what is necessary [17:10] 'bzr add' if you added any files [17:11] i like to check with 'bzr diff' [17:11] then 'bzr commit' with comment and 'bzr push' as required [17:12] falktx: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio-menu [17:12] that page will have the 'bzr branch' and 'bzr push' commands [17:19] ah, I remember this, I need to login now [17:22] should I make a new changelog entry? [17:22] I guess anyone can easily change that, so I will [17:35] done [17:36] ScottL: astraljava: how to update the package in the repos now? [17:42] Good question, I'm not 100% on how these get updated. Let me poke around a bit. [17:44] sorry, the work internet crapped out [17:44] falktx: hopefully you got all my last messages [17:45] scott-work: yes, I already did the changes, and added a new changelog entry [17:51] I'd imagine the new debs to be rolled the next time the buildd/whatever notices there's an update on that. scott-work, got a better knowledge on ubuntustudio-menu branch to become a new .deb? [17:52] astraljava: i'm not sure i understand, are you asking me if _i_ have a better understanding of the -menu branch? [17:52] astraljava: when you ask about the .deb file do you mean when building it locally by using falktx 's patch or you mean for the buildd system within launchpad? [17:53] I'm not fully up-to-date on how branches become packages in LP. falktx just pushed a commit to ubuntustudio-menu branch, when will it become a new package in the repositories? [18:03] astraljava: AH! you know, i'm not exactly sure either [18:03] perhaps TheMuso or persia can answer that, if not we can ask in #ubuntu-motu [18:03] Right, I'm on it. Thanks" [18:03] " == ! [18:04] hehe [19:42] scott-work: i actually try to do a mix [19:42] this one was just right in virtualbox from the downloaded iso [20:01] holstein: a "mix"? i'm not sure i understand [20:02] but it sounds like the iso worked for you in vm that's good :) [20:39] i'll rsync the new images and try burning with a fresh disc and then test again [20:55] Why rsync? Isn't zsync more effective? [21:00] scott-work: like i try to do different things each time [21:00] from an actual burn [21:00] or from USB [21:00] whatever [21:00] in VM... [21:01] astraljava: yeah, sorry, meant zsync, it's what i thought in my head but i typed rsync [21:01] holstein: ah, a mix meaning different types of installs...gotcha :) [22:17] Okay, we're supposed to have fresh images tomorrow morning, unless I f***ed up desktop in seeds. But we still need to work on lightdm greeter theme (my bad!), and theming overall. The current session looks fugly. [22:18] Xubuntu looks bad too, lightdm is changing too fast to keep up with it [22:18] charlie-tca: Yeah, but we don't even have a customized theme so far. [22:19] We aren't putting that in for this release. We will try again for the LTS instead [22:19] Oh okay. Is it _that_ difficult nowadays? [22:20] seems to be, at least for madnick these days. Doesn't help he is short of time, too though [22:20] I understand that.t [22:20] -t [22:38] * astraljava is getting in the know re: image spinning [22:38] Damn, I feel like we're gonna go with something real for the next cycle [22:39] heh, it all takes time to learn [22:40] Yeah, indeed. [22:48] hm, just saw a new meta, what about menus? [22:52] I dunno yet, I just asked on -devel about how that stuff rolls. I'll let you know when I do. [22:53] ok