[18:13] <azm> anyone here?
[18:13] <azm> I'd like some more stable version of ardour3
[18:37] <azm> solved.
[19:41] <holstein> azm: hey
[19:41] <holstein> falktx (kxstudio) pacakges it up if you dont feel like building it
[19:41] <holstein> otherwise, you'll just have to wait like the rest of us :)
[19:44] <azm> well guys in Ardour told me its bad Idea to use prepacked so I downloaded the binary and it works
[19:44] <azm> just trying to resolve xruns
[19:44] <holstein> well, to be more presice, its preferred to build the current version from las
[19:44] <holstein> but, its not a *bad* idea
[19:46] <azm> las gave me such instructions
[19:46] <holstein> las is awesome
[19:46] <holstein> and i trust him implicitly in every way
[19:47] <azm> when the installation of ubuntu studio asks me If I want to use rt priority
[19:47] <holstein> *except*
[19:47] <holstein> his option of ubuntu is really low
[19:47] <azm> how come I don't have all the options in limits.conf?
[19:47] <azm> like
[19:47] <holstein> and not necessarily current, accurate, nor based on *any* first-hand experience
[19:47] <azm> @audio - rtprio 99
[19:47] <azm> @audio - memlock unlimited
[19:47] <azm> @audio - nice -19
[19:47] <holstein> azm: that has been phased out
[19:47] <holstein> and you shouldnt need it
[19:48] <holstein> but, test for yourself
[19:48] <azm> but what is realtime on it then?
[19:48] <azm> I have generic kernel and lots of xruns
[19:48] <holstein> right, so try a different kernel
[19:48] <holstein> i say go in order
[19:48] <holstein> -generic then -lowlatency then -RT or -realtime
[19:48] <azm> ok
[19:48] <holstein> *and* have realistic expectations
[19:49] <holstein> if you have an internal sound card, and you get near 20ms latency, thats pretty good
[19:49] <azm> yea near yes but with hundreds xruns :)
[19:50] <holstein> sure, but you have interrupts to look at
[19:50] <holstein> also, you are looking at ardour
[19:50] <holstein> i would close ardour
[19:50] <holstein> and troubleshoot jack seperately
[19:50] <holstein> with something like hyrdogen or yoshimi
[19:50] <azm> yea, its all same
[19:50] <holstein> i mean, you can hop versions of ardour all day and it wont matter
[19:51] <azm> I go for lowlatency
[19:51] <holstein> try gksudo qjackctl
[19:51] <azm> now reboot
[19:51] <azm> I use one
[19:51] <azm> second
[19:51] <holstein> then, you can troubleshoot for permissions issues seperatly too
[19:56] <azm> why to go gradually and not for rt straight from generic?
[20:45] <azm> holstein, are you around?
[20:45] <azm> I just tried lowlatency k.
[20:46] <azm> and intital ubunstustuio logo appeared but then it freezed
[20:46] <azm> I had to reboot
[20:46] <azm> nvidia I guess?
[20:54] <holstein> azm: thats a good guess
[20:54] <holstein> i suggest not using it with the proprietary drivers
[20:54] <holstein> falktx has them patched for nvidia use though AFAIK
[20:55] <azm> Im just reading that latest
[20:56] <azm> 280 works fine
[20:57] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/kernel/
[21:20] <azm> holstein, jusr purged the old ones and installed 280 and works great!
[21:20] <azm> *just
[21:20] <azm> wow and no xruns s ofar
[21:20] <holstein> azm: :)
[23:25] <holstein> azm: master out to midi in?
[23:25] <holstein> you mean a master audio out?
[23:25] <holstein> that wont go to a MIDI in
[23:25] <azm> holstein, well IM trying to get sound from pian oroll
[23:25] <azm> yea its wrong
[23:25] <holstein> azm: piano roll doesnt make sounds
[23:25] <azm> yea
[23:25] <holstein> thats going to just be a controller
[23:25] <holstein> you
[23:26] <azm> but it does if you connect it to yoshimi
[23:26] <holstein> 'll point it (via MIDI) to a synth
[23:26] <azm> or add plugin
[23:26] <azm> in jack connections?
[23:26] <azm> how
[23:26] <holstein> i would do it there
[23:26] <holstein> in jack
[23:26] <holstein> under connect
[23:26] <holstein> *if* you cant get things from the alsa tab to talk to things in the midi tab you can use a2jmidid
[23:27] <azm> like yoshimi left and right to master of ardour ?
[23:27] <azm> not necessary
[23:27] <holstein> nah
[23:27] <holstein> going *to* the master of ardour doesnt do anything
[23:27] <holstein> IF you wanted to loop something in
[23:27] <holstein> like JAMin
[23:27] <azm> starting Yoshimi using alsa midi input.
[23:27] <azm> yoshimi -a , or yoshimi --alsa-midi
[23:27] <holstein> you *could* put it there
[23:28] <azm> no, I just want sound from piano
[23:28] <azm> that is all
[23:28] <holstein> right
[23:28] <holstein> so route the piano to the sound card
[23:28] <azm> las said that it possible two ways
[23:28] <holstein> and listen to it
[23:28] <holstein> you can put it in the ardour master too
[23:28] <holstein> that'll make it 'export'
[23:28] <holstein> you just need to read about some routing
[23:28] <holstein> and signal path
[23:28] <holstein> and get used to the jagon
[23:28] <holstein> and just try some things out
[23:29] <azm> jagon?
[23:29] <holstein> jargon*
[23:30] <azm> the thing is
[23:30] <azm> if I want to make that piano roll make sound with yoshimi
[23:30] <holstein> it'll have some midi out
[23:31] <holstein> in jack
[23:31] <holstein> or it should
[23:31] <holstein> again, i would suggest starting with something easier
[23:31] <azm> in JACK-MIDI tab right ?
[23:31] <holstein> ardour it self is not trivial
[23:31] <holstein> i would close ardour
[23:31] <holstein> get comfortable routing something to a midi synth
[23:31] <holstein> maybe use something like qtractor for a bit
[23:31] <holstein> or rosegarden
[23:32] <holstein> you could be dealing with broken things in ardour 3
[23:32] <holstein> if you can catch [lsd
[23:32] <holstein> over in #opensourcemusicians
[23:32] <azm> I have no problem routing plugins and synths and other software in older Ardour
[23:32] <azm> the only thing is
[23:32] <holstein> he's my go-to midi guy
[23:32] <azm> thatin A3 alpha is midi new and Im kinda confused
[23:33] <holstein> right, and you should be
[23:33] <holstein> and it could be broken
[23:33] <holstein> and no one cares if you can use it yet or not
[23:33] <holstein> but, [lsd] would take some time im sure
[23:33] <holstein> personally, im waiting til its out
[23:33] <holstein> at least beta
[23:41] <azm> ok, so I figured out the first way
[23:42] <azm> already have sound on piano roll
[23:42] <azm> now the other