| pleia2 | on the bright side, the rivers around philly seem to have finally crested so the flooding should stop ruining my life \o/ | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| pleia2 | (stupid power and internet outages) | 00:00 |
| knome | good to hear | 00:00 |
| * pleia2 detatches from computer | 00:00 | |
| knome | oki, see you | 00:00 |
| charlie-tca | knome: what is the status of the logo for the menus? | 02:03 |
| Unit193 | Looks to me as if it's still pending, but what would I know? | 02:06 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, knome has decided to keep it a secret. I will have to guess it is not going to happen | 02:10 |
| Unit193 | It's up to someone else now, nothing he can do but bug him | 02:12 |
| GridCube | my university proxy is blocking irc :| | 02:25 |
| madnick | GridCube: ssh then? :) | 02:28 |
| GridCube | i can't even use webirc, tho that might have to be whit the university's servers are failing | 02:29 |
| GridCube | i dont know how to ssh | 02:29 |
| GridCube | :( | 02:29 |
| madnick | Well, do you have a box that is mostly online all the time at home+ | 02:29 |
| madnick | ?* | 02:29 |
| GridCube | i can have | 02:29 |
| GridCube | if i turn it up when i leave :P | 02:30 |
| * GridCube thinks this is offtopic | 02:30 | |
| madnick | Ill assume it'd be running xubuntu :P so just apt-get ssh-server | 02:30 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/debian-cd/xubuntu-logo/+merge/72497 (knome gave this link, and it's not really a secret…) | 06:15 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: I still don't know what the url means. Is the updated logo on hold until after beta1, or until LTS, or what? | 12:59 |
| mr_pouit | "Status: Needs review", and "Reviewer: Colin Watson; Status: pending" | 13:07 |
| mr_pouit | no more info than that | 13:07 |
| mr_pouit | I guess you'll have to ask Colin for a timeframe | 13:08 |
| charlie-tca | Thank you | 13:13 |
| charlie-tca | I will push cjwatson after beta1 then. | 13:14 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think I will ever understand all this stuff. I can push when someone tells me what needs pushing. | 13:18 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: another lightdm configuration change taking place | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | ev | http://paste.ubuntu.com/678006/ | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | superm1 | that will be fine for mythbuntu, xubuntu will need to add a commented out #autologin-user= line to their default conf | 14:19 |
| charlie-tca | ev | patches welcome, should be fairly straightforward | 14:21 |
| mr_pouit | charlie-tca: we don't ship a default conf | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | I thought we had one in /usr/share/xubuntu/ something | 15:07 |
| mr_pouit | not for lightdm | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, okay. I can't get them to tell me more, either | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | I am tired today. Maybe I am just getting frustrated, they just dropped a new kernel, too. Maybe it will not affect us, though | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | charlie-tca | superm1: Xubuntu is not shipping any lightdm.conf file | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | superm1 | charlie-tca, yeah you are, the postinst creates it | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | superm1 | via lightdm-set-defaults | 15:16 |
| charlie-tca | alternate images will be re-built again | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | hm, I sure am hating software center. It is difficult to tell an application is even installing. | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | no password required to install either | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: can you upload https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/debian-cd/xubuntu-logo/+merge/72497 | 16:00 |
| charlie-tca | so we can get it in beta1? | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | or knome ? | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | or micahg ? | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | I have it approved | 16:01 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: in the middle of something at the moment, will get back to you when I have a minute | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | Approved by pitti and skaet | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | I think that is what it is waiting for, is the approvals | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | lightdm on 64bit upgrade has no icons, clock in center across top; black panel on top | 16:27 |
| charlie-tca | this seems to be limited to upgrades. Fresh installs are fine | 16:38 |
| charlie-tca | plymouth looks great! | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | hm, probable problem with plymouth... It doesn't tell me to remove the cd anymore, it just waits for me to and then hit enter. | 17:54 |
| madnick | That is acctually quite odd, because thats a message, and messages should be handleded properly | 17:58 |
| madnick | let me try | 17:58 |
| charlie-tca | maybe related to the disappearing splash screen then? | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | I get text, and the bouncing slider, but no splash | 17:59 |
| madnick | yeah the message function works | 18:01 |
| * madnick checks if the prompt works | 18:02 | |
| charlie-tca | hm, I don't have a camera, so I can't get a picture. I have on screen: | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | * Stopping save sound card(s') mixer state(s) | 18:03 |
| charlie-tca | * Starting Userspace bootsplash utility | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | and the bouncing slider | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | but the cd ejected from the drive | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | I don't get a prompt to remove it and hit enter to continue | 18:04 |
| madnick | hm, hold on ill check something | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | These are both live cd's | 18:06 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: hm | 18:17 |
| madnick | It is possibly | 18:17 |
| madnick | that they are sending an "ask-question --prompt" | 18:17 |
| madnick | to plymouth | 18:17 |
| madnick | and that is not implemented, because I honestly did not think it was used | 18:18 |
| madnick | But I am unable to confirm this | 18:18 |
| madnick | Because I cannot find where the commands sends to plymouth are located | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | I see | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | anything is possible | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | probably comes from caspar or ubiquity | 18:18 |
| charlie-tca | caspar runs the live session, ubiquity runs the installer | 18:19 |
| madnick | yeah | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | well, I must say, colors when installing using "install Xubuntu" from the menu are really unique! | 18:21 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: but if this is the case, it must not have shown anything like this for 11.04 either | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, that is possible | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | We didn't get a lot of things to work in 11.04... | 18:22 |
| madnick | I fixed this locally | 18:22 |
| madnick | I need to get an image | 18:22 |
| madnick | Acctually, its not sustainable to install to try the fix, i will need to find the commands sent | 18:23 |
| madnick | ill run a massive cat :) | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | the oneiric desktop images are good today | 18:26 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: catfish is broken on my image | 18:29 |
| madnick | but its acctually not todays | 18:29 |
| madnick | Ill get todays | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | I have both installing now. I will check it when they finish | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit, knome, micahg : did we get the logo fix uploaded? all images are going to be re-built, and we can get that in them for beta1 | 18:31 |
| micahg | I should be free in about 30 minutes, can look then, images won't be respun for about 4 hrs | 18:32 |
| micahg | well, freer... | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. As long we got it, I think it would be really nice to get it in | 18:32 |
| charlie-tca | knome puts a lot of time and effort into getting things to work, I think. If it just takes the upload now, ... | 18:33 |
| madnick | hm, i think it runs "ask-question" in order to wait for an enter key, to run "eject" of the install media | 18:35 |
| madnick | This is not good :| | 18:35 |
| madnick | Does it automatically eject? | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | eject is automatic, then it should say : | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | Please remove the cd and hit enter to continue | 18:37 |
| madnick | Then perhaps it waits for enter to reboot, oh well, ill fix it | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | and it won't go on until the enter key is hit | 18:38 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/fix.png | 18:43 |
| madnick | I still need to find the acctual command passed tho | 18:44 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, that's it, but will it show if the splash screen doesn't? | 18:44 |
| madnick | Nope, but that is when the text theme kicks in | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 18:45 |
| madnick | And im not sure that you can script that tbh | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | okay. It will be okay, anyway | 18:46 |
| madnick | Not sure what the .so files does | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | so, I will file a bug for that, so mr_pouit has one to put the fix against and we don't forget it. | 18:47 |
| madnick | it seems the ubuntu version loads a .so file | 18:47 |
| madnick | which is a libary | 18:47 |
| charlie-tca | which one is it? | 18:48 |
| madnick | 1 sec | 18:48 |
| madnick | Nope xubuntu-text loads that as well | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | this is for desktop images only, right? | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | alternate give a message to remove the installation media and give the message. | 18:50 |
| madnick | perhaps it does not run plymouth | 18:50 |
| madnick | on alternate installs | 18:50 |
| charlie-tca | it doesn't use plymouth, no | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | plymouth is used on live sessions and installations only, as far as I remember | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | 386 desktop passes; unfortunately, all images will be rebuilt again tonight | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: does it help if I tell you the message should appear after ubiquity closes? | 19:05 |
| madnick | Not sure :) I need to find the acctual script that invokes plymouth with that message/prompt | 19:06 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I am going for a walk. by the time things get rebuilt, I may be sleeping again... | 19:13 |
| madnick | ill upload the fix, because i have to go, i still want to know what is invoked, but if someone else figures that out, the fix is ready | 19:13 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: ok, what needs to be done? | 19:15 |
| madnick | http://madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/xubuntu-draft.script | 19:15 |
| madnick | micahg: do you happen to know what invokes plymouth with a prompt to remove install media after install? | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: I don't understand all of it, but I asked pitti and skaet if we could push this through and they said okay: | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/debian-cd/xubuntu-logo/+merge/72497 | 19:16 |
| charlie-tca | Then pitti asked if I could upload it? | 19:16 |
| micahg | madnick: no, I haven't looked at the installer at all | 19:16 |
| madnick | okay | 19:17 |
| madnick | ill do an attempt in #ubuntu-devel :) then i have to go | 19:17 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: I don't think I have access to that either...you need a CD team member | 19:18 |
| charlie-tca | so, who do I have to go to? | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | cjwatson or ev? | 19:19 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: most of the people in -release can do it | 19:19 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 19:20 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: maybe ask slangasek since he's driving this rounf | 19:20 |
| micahg | *round | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 19:20 |
| charlie-tca | knome: We are going to get the logo in, at least everything seems to point that way. | 19:26 |
| knome | charlie-tca, yeah, i already talked to cjwatson | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | Wish you would talk to me, because he ain't really doing it | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | That would have been good to know, though | 20:53 |
| charlie-tca | However, even with a lack of all information, I got it in, and it will be in beta1 | 20:54 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: it is infact really wierd that you dont get a graphical prompt | 20:56 |
| madnick | I looked at casper now | 20:56 |
| madnick | And it sends a message | 20:56 |
| madnick | not a ask-question, so it should work | 20:56 |
| charlie-tca | should is good, but it does not, in reality, work | 20:57 |
| madnick | do you get a blank screen? or is the plymouth animation going? | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | I get a black screen with some text on it, and the slider bar only | 20:58 |
| madnick | That would certainly explain it | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | Oh | 20:58 |
| madnick | That is really outside of the plymouth domain unfortunetly | 20:59 |
| madnick | Im not sure how one would go about that | 20:59 |
| charlie-tca | I see | 21:00 |
| madnick | On the bright side, it shouldnt happen :) And it happens for my labmachine aswell (1 out of 10 times) | 21:01 |
| charlie-tca | heh, here it is 10 out of 10 | 21:01 |
| madnick | Ill ask around | 21:01 |
| astraljava | Hey guys, was a little busy with studio stuff this evening. I'll try to test the QA image tomorrow at work, so I can contribute for that one. | 22:40 |
| astraljava | I'm gonna head to bed now. | 22:40 |
| Unit193 | Good night | 22:40 |
| charlie-tca | no problem. They are re-spinning all the images again, anyway | 22:43 |
| astraljava | Oh okay, so it's actually a good thing, then. See ya tomorrow, then. :) | 22:46 |
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