[00:28] <zetaphor> Hello everyone! In my attempt to get sound working, I ended up uninstalling the default sound slider app that was packaged with xubuntu 11.04. I'd like it back as it had a hover window for controller gmusicbrowser. Does anyone know the package name for this, and if it will also manage spotify?
[00:37] <knome> zetaphor, xfce4-mixer?
[00:37] <knome> zetaphor, or are you maybe talking about the indicator plugin?
[01:25] <zetaphor> @knome I thought it was the indicator plugin, but I have lost the volume control
[01:27] <zetaphor> No it's not the mixer. I was able to control gMusicBrowser with it, it's the default sound package with 11.04
[03:10] <uofm49426> if  sudo modprobe start a module how do i stop one
[10:18] <Arcaious> hello
[10:32] <paul_uk> hey all, i've got a lot of files in my trash that I don't have permissions to.  I've tried going into ~/.local/share/Trash/files but its coming up blank.  Is there a way of getting elevated privileges to remove these files or another directory? Thanks
[10:34] <TheSheep> paul_uk: type 'gksu thunar' in terminal
[10:35] <paul_uk> what does that do?
[10:35] <paul_uk> ok i had to run it again cos apparently it wasn't doing anything
[10:36] <paul_uk> ok this is weird, im still not showing any files in trash although in my Rubbish Bin, I am seeing 6GB.
[10:40] <jarnos> How do you enter grub menu in Natty? Display goes black soon after BIOS checks and no key seems to bring menu visible.
[10:42] <paul_uk> oh man, i had to go into the usb device find the trash location and then delete the files from there.  Thankfully the Rubbish Bin updated and it's now showing 0 items.
[10:43] <paul_uk> jarnos hold down shift right after your bios finishes and just before you boot
[10:43] <paul_uk> left shift
[10:43] <paul_uk> jarnos, nvida gfx card?
[10:48] <jarnos> paul_uk, yes
[10:48] <jarnos> paul_uk, why?
[10:49] <paul_uk> ok, me too.  What worked for me in the end after hours of troubleshooting.  Is to boot in safe mode gfx settings and then choose opensource 3d drivers because the default nvidia drivers kept on giving a blank screen.
[10:50] <paul_uk> the linux community is seriously screwing up by installing gfx operability.  For me F15 is a complete screw up and totally unstable, ubuntu wouldn't give me any 3d options and it was only until I chose xbuntu and show the 3d option that I selected that and I was actually working again.  This after using fedora since version 10 lol.  No problems ever.
[10:50] <jarnos> paul_uk, but I use nouveau driver; binary driver does not even work for my card in 11.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#Driver Versions
[10:51] <paul_uk> jarnos, did xubuntu fire up ok after the initial install?
[10:51] <jarnos> paul_uk, I think it was blank initially, too.
[10:52] <paul_uk> jarnos: but you choose to specifically install the nouveau driver?
[10:52] <jarnos> paul_uk, no, AFAIK it is the default for nVidia cards.
[10:53] <paul_uk> jarnos, no it wasn't for me.  For me the default was the nvidia accelerated graphics driver.
[10:53] <paul_uk> I had to choose the experimental 3d support for nvidia cards
[10:53] <paul_uk> then I had no issues so far..
[10:53] <jarnos> paul_uk, strange.
[10:54] <paul_uk> yes I wasted half a day trying the latest and beta drivers from nvidia site with ubuntu and couldn't get anything to work.
[10:54] <paul_uk> only xbuntu and 3d support drivers works
[10:55] <paul_uk> jarnos, this is what I have: http://i.imgur.com/2CKgH.png
[10:56] <paul_uk> as I say the first option was only available with ubuntu and xubuntu gives both drivers.
[11:00] <paul_uk> is there a way to hide .ext~ files? like .txt~ .php~ .whatever~
[11:02] <jarnos> paul_uk, AFAIK the default driver is neither shown in the Additional Drivers dialog. you can find the current driver in the output of command "sudo lshw"
[11:03] <paul_uk> jarnos: to be honest for me xubuntu is working and that's that.  I am too busy in a development project I need to get out the door to do any sort of troubleshooting :)
[11:04] <paul_uk> so all I'm doing is giving you my experience  of how I finally got linux to work with an up to date nvidia card.
[11:33] <LogicallyDashing> Ubuntu LTS is at version 10.04.3 while Xubuntu LTS is at version 10.04.2; is there any meaning to this? Is Xubuntu LTS less up to date?
[11:39] <paul_uk> probably
[12:26] <bittin> Somone wants a Mac LC?
[12:27] <Sysi> bittin: don't crosspam offtopic
[12:30] <Jcook_5xData> anyone know how to install ubuntu mixer in xubuntu? Xfce4 mixer is just not that good
[12:30] <Sysi> you propably want pavucontrol
[12:37] <Jcook_5xData> Sysi, yea I look at that now the right one. I am not sure if it there in 11.10 I think they combine it in the gnome-control-panel
[12:37] <Jcook_5xData> not *
[12:52] <charlie-tca> LogicallyDashing, paul_uk : If you update your system, it is up-to-date whether it is Ubuntu or Xubuntu. The cd is just an older image for Xubuntu, which means there will be more updates after installing.
[12:56] <paul_uk> charlie-tca, thanks captain obvious ;) another point is, whether or not someone cares about a 0.0.1 upgrade heh.  Any serious dev will tell you that it's an update you can do without.
[12:56] <paul_uk> if it is at all any sort of real update.  Or it could be mis-match in versions between repos, etc
[12:57] <charlie-tca> It is normal for LTS releases to have those image updates. Normally, Xubuntu will have .1 while Ubuntu will have .1, .2, .3, .4
[12:57] <paul_uk> well LogicallyDashing there you go
[12:57] <charlie-tca> However, It still is only a specific image in time, with updates in the cd instead of after the installation completes
[12:58] <paul_uk> anyway onto something more useful: is there a way to hide .ext~ files? like .txt~ .php~ .whatever~
[12:59] <TheSheep> no, the files that start with a . are hidden
[12:59] <paul_uk> TheSheep, .ext as in extensions and no starting with .
[12:59] <TheSheep> you can change your editor settings to append a period to the temporary files
[12:59] <TheSheep> no, you can't
[13:00] <paul_uk> that's a PITA.  so if I have say 100 files that I have edited I now have to also see 100 ~ files giving me lots of noise.
[13:00] <TheSheep> no if you have properly configured editor
[13:00] <paul_uk> I'm talking about the filemanager
[13:00] <TheSheep> it is a PITA to use an editor with broken config, agreed
[13:01] <paul_uk> When I do FileSystem > Directory > Files
[13:04] <paul_uk> oh nevermind, I'll just add this to my list of xubuntu gripes.
[13:04] <TheSheep> would be so much easier to just make your editor prefix backups with a period
[13:06] <paul_uk> TheSheep, unfortunately I don't see such option.
[13:06] <paul_uk> I'm currently using bluefish, but don't have the time to spend customising gedit.  I'll leave it for now.
[13:06] <paul_uk> Thanks anyways
[15:22] <xubuntu192> howdy
[15:23] <charlie-tca> !hi | xubuntu192
[15:23] <xubuntu192> i just installed xubuntu on my dell latitude, is there anyone here who can tell me how install the broadcom drivers for my wireless?
[15:25] <xubuntu192> or perhaps point me in the right direction
[15:26] <genii-around> !broadcom
[15:26] <xubuntu192> thank you much  :)
[15:27] <genii-around> xubuntu192: Is your card in that 43xx series?
[15:28] <xubuntu192> yeah....i had this trouble before
[15:29] <genii-around> Ah, right page then.
[15:29] <xubuntu192> thanks again
[15:31] <genii-around> np
[16:22] <rafa_pezzuto> hi
[16:54] <yeik> Where would i post a suggestion on workspaces?
[17:04] <Pici> !brainstorm | yeik perhaps
[17:35] <xunubi> Could some kind soul explain to me what changes have been made regarding sound drivers / mixer gui between ubuntu + xubuntu ? :) just switched to xubuntu and im getting a lot more sound devices listed than I had on gnome, and when I try to increase volume for my mic, it plays out of my speakers lol.
[17:36] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu uses gnome and it's applications, Xubuntu does not
[17:36] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu uses Xfce and it's applications
[17:38] <xunubi> Yeah, I guess what I meant to ask was, is it possible to use the gnome default sound application within XFCE, the one that comes built in with xubuntu seems to be conflicting with my sound hardware.
[17:38] <charlie-tca> sure, you can just install it, but I don't know what the names are that gnome uses
[17:39] <charlie-tca> You can remove xfce4-mixer and install the mixer from gnome
[17:39] <gtludwig> hello all
[17:40] <charlie-tca> !hi | gtludwig
[17:40] <xunubi> Thanks :) usually I'd persevere and fiddle till it works but I've got incoming calls left right and centre on skype and can't talk lol
[17:40] <gtludwig> thx, charlie-tca !
[17:41] <gtludwig> quick question, how can I set font resolution for xubuntu?
[17:41] <Sysi> settings → appearance → fonts
[17:43] <gtludwig> Sysi, I try a "xdpyinfo | grep resolution"
[17:43] <gtludwig> and it returns resolution: 79 x 113 dors per inch
[17:44] <gtludwig> it looks strange
[17:45] <takumi> Hello everybody
[17:48] <takumi> Is someone can help me please?
[17:48] <xunubi> Gah, my mic plays through my speakers! Anyone with experience who might suggest where I'm going wrong? :)
[17:49] <Sysi> takumi: somebody may ansver if you ask a question
[17:49] <takumi> ok thank you Sysi
[17:50] <takumi> in fact i am not new on linux OS but i'm totaly new on xubuntu
[17:50] <takumi> and i have some little problem with it
[17:51] <takumi> Oh a precesion, i'm using Xubuntu 11.04
[17:51] <takumi> So my first question is : Is it possible to change the Icon of a folder? or a video?
[17:51] <Sysi> (told'ya to ask a question)
[17:52] <Sysi> not easily at least
[17:52] <takumi> oh sad :(
[17:53] <takumi> it is look more hard than the other OS to personalize
[17:54] <takumi> 2) Is it possible to have overview of Picture or Video (I'm not sure my english is good for you understanding)
[17:54] <Sysi> well, you can change icon themes easily, download one and extract to ~/.icons
[17:54] <TheSheep> it's easy to use a different icon theme, and there are hundreds of different icon themes
[17:54] <TheSheep> making an icon theme takes a little learning, but it's not extremely hard
[17:55] <takumi> Yes but i dont talk about icon theme, i just want to change 1 icon
[17:55] <takumi> as exemple, i create new folder "work" and i put a personal icon only for this folder
[17:55] <TheSheep> takumi: yes, thunar (the file manager) makes thumbnails of pictures, videos, pdf files and such
[17:55] <takumi> Ok thank you thesheep!
[17:55] <TheSheep> takumi: you can put an emblem on a folder
[17:55] <takumi> Yes i saw the emblem, but they are not really an icon
[17:55] <TheSheep> takumi: it will have the same icon as other folders, but it will have an additional icon on it
[17:56] <takumi> but to have an other icon of the older folder, it is not possible?
[17:56] <TheSheep> takumi: not for just one directory, no
[17:56] <takumi> ok
[17:57] <takumi> hmmm and my last question was about the hide folder
[17:57] <takumi> in gnome, it just need to add a . before the name, and the shortcut is Ctrl+H
[17:57] <TheSheep> all files and directories that have their names staring with "." are hidden in linux
[17:57] <takumi> but on xubuntu, it is doesnt work
[17:57] <TheSheep> that's a general thing in linux
[17:57] <TheSheep> it does work
[17:57] <takumi> ah? i will try again
[17:58] <takumi> pfff oh yes you are true! sorry
[17:59] <TheSheep> by the way, you can make a shortcut to a directory, and change the icon of that shortcut
[17:59] <TheSheep> if you for example want to have fancy icons on the desktop
[18:00] <takumi> oh yes good idea, thank you ;)
[18:00] <takumi> i will try personalize it
[18:00] <takumi> i'm on xubuntu because i really hate unity
[18:00] <TheSheep> we get a lot of users like that recently
[18:00] <takumi> so i keep gnome 2, but i would like try xfce now for change and learn more
[18:01] <takumi> yes i think canonical made a bad thing with unity
[18:01] <xunubi> xfce is much nicer, apart from some confusing differences with my sound driver, so doesn't look like im gonna be able to keep it :|
[18:01] <takumi> it is maybe cute but very not usefull
[18:01] <takumi> Sorry for your problem, wish you can correct it but as i'm newbee i can't help you now :(
[18:03] <takumi> TheSheep, for the overview, it is not possible to have it naturaly on desktop as exemple, without pass by thunar?
[18:03] <TheSheep> xunubi: did you try installing pavucontrol and padevchooser?
[18:03] <TheSheep> takumi: desktop is displayed by thunar now too, so it should work fine
[18:03] <xunubi> TheSheep: Nope, I'm totally clueless when it comes to Linux and sound :) will have a look now, thanks
[18:03] <TheSheep> xunubi: they give you even more options to confuse you ;)
[18:04] <TheSheep> xunubi: but at least you can see what is happening with them
[18:04] <TheSheep> xunubi: I still didn't find a way to stop the mike being heard in the speakers, other than muting the mike
[18:05] <xunubi> TheSheep:  My problem is already too many options, the last thing I need is more lol.  on a clean ubuntu install, if I go to sound mixer, I just get a nice standard window with Master, Mic, etc ...from a clean xubuntu install I have 7 different devices listed, each containing an insane amount of things such as Surround, PCM, LFE, CAPTURE x3
[18:06] <takumi> TheSheep, i didn't have overview of a picture in my desktop (i have just icon BMP) but i have overview in the folders you contain the picture. For the videos, i don't have overview in the folders and on the desktop (but it is not a problem of driver because i can play the video normaly)
[18:06] <xunubi> But I can't locate the driver / difference between installs so I can revert, so I think I will just install Ubuntu and then install XFCE and set it to default, hopefully this will address it.
[18:07] <TheSheep> xunubi: I feel your pain, unfortunately the linux sound ecosystem is very complicated, and xfce is made to work with most of the elements available out there, so one can mix and match them -- unlike gnome, which just make a choice and simplified everything
[18:07] <TheSheep> xunubi: both approaches have their up and down sides, obviously, but xfce's way is much more confusing
[18:08] <TheSheep> takumi: which version of xubuntu is it?
[18:09] <takumi> It is the last one 11.04
[18:09] <xunubi> TheSheep: Yeah I agree totally, XFCE has a nicer feel to it, but the definition of "desktop environment" seems to be getting quite cloudy compared to when I first tried linux 4 or 5 years ago, and xfce seems to be using a lot more gnome dependencies now, hard to draw the line between what is what lol
[18:10] <TheSheep> xunubi: gnome is getting less open day by day and more monolithic, it's hard to pull only some parts from it
[18:10] <TheSheep> xunubi: plus, we still need to use the ubuntu base, which sometimes forces some innovations of their own
[18:11] <TheSheep> xunubi: dropping gdm should help a little in the near future
[18:11] <xunubi> TheSheep: Yeah I really don't want to go back to Gnome if I can help it, but I have zero knowledge about how sound works on linux, I have tried reading up on it but it's just messy and confusing.  And I need to be able to use my mic, lots of skype calls etc, doesn't work when it's playing out of my speakers lol
[18:12] <TheSheep> takumi: do you get the thumbnails if you open the Desktop directory with thunar?
[18:12] <TheSheep> xunubi: it's 20 years of complete chaos :)
[18:12] <takumi> TheSheep, yes if i open thunar, i can see pictures thumbnails but not video
[18:13] <TheSheep> takumi: you need to have ffmpegthumbnailer installed to have video thumbnails
[18:14] <TheSheep> takumi: make sure you have it
[18:14] <xunubi> Back laters gonna try installing ubuntu and xfce, I get the feeling it's a change in the distros not the window manager itself (fingers crossed as that means i can still use xfce)
[18:14] <takumi> Ok thank you TheSheep i will check it :)
[18:16] <takumi> You was true again TheSheep, i didn't had ffmpegthumbnailer!
[18:17] <takumi> i will reboot to check if it is ok now and reconnect here to tell you
[18:19] <TheSheep> that was quick
[18:19] <takumi> TheSheep, i'm back
[18:20] <takumi> yes quick :)
[18:20] <takumi> but the result is the same :(
[18:20] <TheSheep> that is strange
[18:20] <TheSheep> it works for me
[18:20] <takumi> yes it is strange
[18:20] <takumi> you did't install other things?
[18:21] <TheSheep> hmm, I have tumbler-plugins-extra
[18:21] <TheSheep> and libffmpegthumbnailer4
[18:22] <takumi> I can try install it
[18:23] <takumi> I reboot again
[18:25] <TheSheep> I just wanted to say that you don't need to reboot or relogin for it to work
[18:25] <takumi> Ah ok TheSheep
[18:26] <takumi> so now it is working in thunar, working on the folders too
[18:26] <nick_m> Hello all! I need some help. Briefly: my notebook hangs on hibernation. OS: xubuntu 11.04. Notebook: emachines d620.
[18:26] <takumi> but not working on the desktop
[18:26] <TheSheep> takumi: yeah, I'm not sure why, to be honest I never have any icons on my desktop, so I never checked
[18:27] <takumi> Yes it is not a big deal because i have few icon on my desktop normaly, i keep place for wallpaper or conky
[18:27] <takumi> TheSheep, thank you for your help ;)
[18:28] <TheSheep> takumi: you may want to ask at #thunar about the thumbnails on the desktop
[18:28] <takumi> ah ok thanks :) i will ask here!
[18:29] <takumi> TheSheep : i will go now, have good day and thank you again!
[18:29] <manuelisimo> hello, does anyone knows if there is a tool in xubuntu to easily change keyboard layouts (I want to switch back and forth between english and spanish)
[18:29] <TheSheep> manuelisimo: there is a command for it, and you can bind it to a keyboard shortcut
[18:30] <manuelisimo> is that setxkbmap?
[18:30] <manuelisimo> how do I go about binding a command to a keyboard shortcut?
[18:30] <TheSheep> yes
[18:30] <TheSheep> you go to the
[18:30] <TheSheep> keyboard settings
[18:31] <TheSheep> applications -> settings -> keyboard -> application shortcuts
[18:31] <TheSheep> manuelisimo: then you click on 'add', type the command you want, press ok, and then it will ask you to press the key combination for it
[18:32] <manuelisimo> found it
[18:32] <manuelisimo> thanks a lot!
[18:32] <nick_m> manuelisimo: my solution is (1) to install xfce4-goodies (particularly, the keyboard plugin), and specify switching keyboard by CapsLock (you may choose favorite shortcut)
[18:32] <nick_m> the plugin should be added to the panel.
[18:36] <nick_m> by the way, the standard config manager (apps->settings...) doesn't provide this feature for me. Russian locale? I had to install goodies.
[18:42] <nick_m> sorry TheSheep for my interruption... I've come to ask, not to answer... just had same trouble and solved it
[18:46] <manuelisimo> thank you both, I installed xfce4-goodies just because I couldn't figure out a good way to toggle layouts with setexkbmap and didn't want to set up two different keyboard shortcuts
[18:46] <manuelisimo> but know that I know where to put keyboard shortcuts I will use it more often
[18:46] <manuelisimo> thanks
[18:46] <TheSheep> nick_m: it's very good that you are answering!
[18:46] <TheSheep> nick_m: and it's natural thing to do
[18:48] <TheSheep> nick_m: but unfortunately I don't know the answer to you problem, you might want to search the forums for your notebook
[18:49] <nick_m> I googled over all the internet, and there are too many DIFFERENT solutions
[18:51] <nick_m> some of them patch older distros, some tell to install and configure alternative suspenders (uswsusp, for instance).
[18:52] <nick_m> I think, there some trouble with acpi - but I don't know how to read and interpret logs of pm-hibernate.
[18:53] <nick_m> mainly, people ask "oh shi, my pc hangs/doesn't wake/doesn't sleep", and the answer - use uswsusp, or - add a script to pm-..., - oh dear, it works, thanks!
[18:53] <nick_m> nothing about the *reasons* of the problem.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> The reason usually has to do with something the hardware manufacturer did that made it not work correctly.
[18:55] <charlie-tca> The fixes are ways of correcting that, and each one is a little bit different
[18:57] <nick_m> I agree - so I looked for acer's and emachines'. But there are same pattern of help. Well, I'm ready to install uswsusp, but... is it good idea to have 2 hibernators on single machine?
[18:58] <charlie-tca> it doesn't hurt anything, as far as I know
[18:58] <nick_m> can I roll it back next time?
[18:59] <charlie-tca> I don't understand that?
[19:01] <nick_m> as I see (tested on a virtualbox), uswsusp injects or replaces out-of-box power manager, letting the user invoke it via menus, not only from terminal. So, when I deinstall uswsusp, will the power manager come back?
[19:02] <nick_m> my girl will kill me if I make her laptop not working (now it is just not sleeping :) )
[19:04] <nick_m> another strange effect that I saw on a virtualbox: using pm- it thaws instantly, and using uswsusp it runs grub first (and I had to configure grub to resume from my swap disk)
[19:04] <charlie-tca> if it doesn't, just install xfce4-power-manager
[19:05] <takumi> TheSheep, can i ask you ultimate thing?
[19:07] <nick_m> charlie-tca, could you please remember me, how to reinstall already installed package? sudo apt-get WHAT xfce4-power-manager?
[19:08] <charlie-tca> sure "sudo apt-get install xfce4-power-manager" without the quotes
[19:09] <nick_m> just install? obviously. though, it doesn't reconfiigure it.
[19:10] <charlie-tca> just install. If you never delete the .config files, it should pick it up again
[19:11] <takumi> Hello, is someone know how i can put a shortcurt for open my harddisk partitions, or USB key in the userbar?
[19:12] <nick_m> thanks charlie-tca, I'm going to hibernate with uswsusp...
[19:12] <charlie-tca> good luck
[19:17] <xubuntu515> Estou instalando o xubuntu, pois o gnome, unity me cansaram.
[19:18] <nick_m> bad luck. Still hangs.
[19:18] <charlie-tca> xubuntu515: English, please?
[19:19] <Unit193> It's Galician
[19:19] <xubuntu515> I am not english, portuguese
[19:20] <xubuntu515> good by people
[19:22] <Pici> !pt
[19:22] <Pici> oops
[19:23] <Unit193> Worth a shot... What he said "translated" for me as Galician :P
[19:23] <charlie-tca> me too
[20:55] <derrichter> hi all is there anyone?
[20:56] <derrichter> hell i can't make audio work :\
[22:24] <larre> hi all
[22:28] <larre> Guess noone is alive right nowm but just shout when you're available to help, if I'm here I'll notice it :P
[22:29] <charlie-tca> Help is always easier when a question has been asked. Please ask your question and if anyone knows the answer, they can respond
[22:29] <larre> Good idea
[22:30] <larre> I have tried to install Xubuntu on an old laptop I've got, Dell Inspirion 1100, but it always halts. Perhaps it's just too old?
[22:30] <charlie-tca> How much ram does it have?
[22:31] <larre> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService
[22:31] <larre> ops
[22:31] <larre> sorry
[22:31] <larre> copy didnt work right
[22:32] <larre> 384 MB (SDRAM)
[22:32] <larre> there we go
[22:32] <charlie-tca> That should be enough. Does the live session work?
[22:33] <larre> You mean start xubutu from cd?
[22:33] <charlie-tca> If you put the desktop cd in, and boot, you have a choice to try Xubuntu before installing or Install now
[22:34] <charlie-tca> If you try, does it get to the desktop?
[22:34] <larre> ah yes, havent tried, will do now
[22:35] <charlie-tca> If it won't go to the desktop, the installs will fail
[22:35] <charlie-tca> If it does, I would suggest using the alternate cd to install, since the ram is low.
[22:35] <larre> it's still a black screen but it is still working
[22:36] <charlie-tca> It will take a few minutes
[22:36] <larre> alternate cd is a command promt install right?
[22:36] <charlie-tca> well, no, it is a non-gui installer, but it is not command prompt
[22:37] <larre> okay, but is it still easy to install?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> You can not use a mouse with it, but it is very easy
[22:37] <larre> okay. as long as mouse works when installation is done
[22:38] <charlie-tca> yup, it should
[22:38] <larre> yes live desktop works!
[22:38] <charlie-tca> everything is the same after the installation finishes
[22:38] <charlie-tca> so, where is the install failing?
[22:39] <larre> hmm wait
[22:39] <larre> seem computer restarted before desktop was fully loaded
[22:40] <larre> oh wait
[22:40] <charlie-tca> that's usually not a good sign
[22:40] <larre> it seems to work
[22:40] <larre> but i got a login screen
[22:40] <charlie-tca> Maybe the install is just very slow
[22:41] <larre> what to login with, guest?
[22:41] <charlie-tca> ubuntu
[22:41] <larre> oh
[22:41] <charlie-tca> password is blank, just hit enter
[22:41] <charlie-tca> session should be Xubuntu
[22:44] <larre> yes it logs in
[22:44] <larre> working hard
[22:44] <larre> old computer
[22:44] <larre> I did want xubuntu as windows works damn too slow on it :P
[22:45] <larre> Still a newbie with linux
[22:45] <larre> after thinking for a while i got back to login screen
[22:47] <larre> google has revealed for me that there has been many issues with this laptop
[22:48] <larre> again just back to login screen
[23:00] <larre> Well, forget that for now, I have another issue on another computer
[23:00] <larre> I have installed xubuntu 64-bit on my stationary amd computer with windows 7 using virtualbox. I cant set higher resolution than 1024x768
[23:01] <larre> welcome back charlie-tca
[23:02] <charlie-tca> What a deal
[23:03] <larre> ?
[23:03] <charlie-tca> Did you see the part about lubuntu?
[23:03] <larre> stupid net split
[23:03] <charlie-tca> It's a netsplit
[23:03] <larre> lubuntu? never heard  of it
[23:03] <charlie-tca> That's where I went, too
[23:03] <larre> i know ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu
[23:03] <charlie-tca> If Xubuntu doesn't install, you can always try Lubuntu, which is a version of Ubuntu made for the old and slow machines
[23:04] <charlie-tca> !lubuntu
[23:04] <larre> anyway logging in doesnt work, after a while of thinking I get back to login screen
[23:04] <charlie-tca> It sometimes is better for older machines than Xubuntu
[23:04] <larre> session says other I think
[23:04] <larre> oh
[23:04] <larre> I will tru
[23:05] <charlie-tca> If you can't login, I think the install will fail, too
[23:05] <larre> but I have another issue as well
[23:06] <charlie-tca> oh? other issue?
[23:06] <larre> I have installed xubuntu 64-bit on my stationary amd computer with windows 7 using virtualbox. I cant set higher resolution than 1024x768
[23:06] <larre> thats where i caht now
[23:06] <larre> chat
[23:06] <charlie-tca> oh
[23:06] <charlie-tca> Did you install the hardware driver?
[23:06] <larre> I think it was among updates
[23:07] <charlie-tca> look in menu -> Settings -> additional drivers or menu -> System -> Additional drivers
[23:07] <larre> says no drivers is used by the system
[23:08] <larre> Haha I try to translate your instruction, I use swdish language
[23:08] <charlie-tca> heh, that's always fun, too
[23:08] <larre> so where can i find drivers?
[23:09] <larre> I edit xorg.conf according to some instructions on a forum but to no use
[23:10] <charlie-tca> no drivers needed, but this usually helps with it -
[23:10] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:11] <larre> Wonder why I try to solve computer problems now, its over 1AM in Sweden haha
[23:11] <larre> ah some terminal commands
[23:11] <larre> will try
[23:12] <charlie-tca> I have to go feed the baby here. Be back in a while
[23:12] <larre> okay
[23:16] <larre> well xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1920x1080 --rate 60 dint change anything, just got a liste of xrandr user commands
[23:18] <burner> anyone know why my network manager tray icon is showing a funny icon that looks like a polaroid photo with a red no smoking type symbol in the middle
[23:34] <larre> Well, I will try to sleep now. Will continue this late
[23:34] <larre> later