[00:42] <skaet> hi kubuntu developers,  we've just posted some new images (Kubuntu desktop 20110831 and Kubuntu alternates 20110830.1).  Help testing them would be very much appreciated, so we can figure out if they're good to release with Beta 1 or not.   Tests we need run on the images can be found on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/.   Thanks for any help with this you can provide. :)  
[00:45] <skaet> If anyone has spots a burning "must fix" issue,  please flag it in either the #ubuntu-testing or #ubuntu-release channel.  
[00:46] <skaet> rbelem, do you want me respinning the kubuntu mobile images to pick up the latest set of chanes?
[00:46] <skaet> s/chanes/changes/ 
[00:46] <kubotu> skaet meant: "rbelem, do you want me respinning the kubuntu mobile images to pick up the latest set of changes?"
[00:47] <skaet> yup.  :)
[01:20] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse, ping
[01:21] <jjesse> DarkwingDuck pong
[01:21] <jjesse> i think :)
[01:21] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse, did you see my Kubuntu Doc Guide?
[01:21] <jjesse> nope
[01:21] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse, wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation
[01:21] <jjesse> ok
[01:22] <DarkwingDuck> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Documentation
[01:22] <skaet> kubuntu dvd (20110831) images posted on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/ 
[01:22] <jjesse> ok
[01:23] <jjesse> ok will have to look/read
[01:23] <DarkwingDuck> jjesse, TY
[02:52] <rbelem> skaet, nope, we did not manage to push all changes
[02:52] <rbelem> skaet, beta-2 they will be ok :-)
[02:53] <skaet> rbelem,  ack.  I'll remove them from the beta-1 release list then. 
[02:54] <rbelem> thanks skaet :-)
[03:51] <rbelem> Quintasan_, i pushed the changes to my branches at https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem
[03:51]  * rbelem is not very good with prepositions
[06:03] <markey> good morning :)
[06:04] <markey> apachelogger: so there is still interest in doing a Kubuntu talk @ Nokia. if we could get Riddell that would rock
[06:41] <jussi> o/
[07:12] <nigelb> ahoy jussi!
[07:20]  * jussi waves at nigelb
[07:55] <DarkwingDuck> My brain...
[08:16] <Mamarok> padevchooser is recommended when you install various pa* modules, but has no installation candidate
[08:44] <debfx> Mamarok: padevchooser has been deprecated in favor of pavucontrol
[08:47] <Mamarok> debfx: OK, then the recommendation should be removed
[08:47] <bambee> morning
[09:05] <apachelogger> Riddell: when do you think you could stop by in Ulm to talk about the greatness of Kubuntu? :)
[09:08] <Riddell> apachelogger: to whom?
[09:08] <apachelogger> Riddell: Nokia, I thought markey already talked with you about it :S
[09:08] <Riddell> yes but I never got an e-mail or any other sort of invite
[09:08] <apachelogger> ah
[09:09] <apachelogger> markey: send the man an invite :P
[09:09] <Riddell> I'm leaving the continent from November so any time before then
[09:09] <apachelogger> Riddell: vacation?
[09:09] <Riddell> no, an adventure
[09:10] <apachelogger> uhhhh, where?
[09:11]  * apachelogger actually thinks that Riddell probably doesnt like us anymore and thus hides somewhere on the world so we cant find him :(
[09:11] <Riddell> Guadeloupe, and I love you very much
[09:12] <Riddell> I'll be doing Kubuntu, don't worry
[09:13] <apachelogger> http://ovi.me/Pm4Xn I am reasonable certain this isle is smaller than austria
[09:16] <Riddell> better sea kayaking too :)
[09:17] <apachelogger> well, you can't say that without having tried in austria ^^
[09:17] <apachelogger> ohh
[09:18]  * apachelogger needs to poke colin, get coffee and then ring jussi
[09:29] <Riddell> jussi's already married, I expect he has a ring
[09:48] <apachelogger> good point :P
[09:53] <Quintasan_> rbelem: Changes to what?
[09:53] <Quintasan> Good morning
[09:54] <Quintasan> rbelem: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/revision/227 and this http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde4libs-active-4.7/revision/373?
[10:03] <Quintasan> ScottK: Can you accept kde-runtime update?
[10:03] <ScottK> Is it critical for Beta 1?
[10:05] <Quintasan> ScottK: It makes runtime-active installable
[10:06] <ScottK> Since we don't use that on any images, I think it can wait until after the beta is released.  Go ahead and upload it and I'll accept it tomorrow.
[10:06] <Quintasan> ScottK: Okay, I already uploaded it, it's waiting there for approval :)
[10:06]  * Quintasan goes shopping
[10:07] <ScottK> OK.  Great.
[10:07] <Quintasan> rbelem,apachelogger: hopefully (thanks to bulldog98) we should have s-l-c and plasma-mobile tomorrow
[10:33] <Tm_T> bwwwaaah, "temporarily sold out" http://www.dealextreme.com/p/replacement-45w-power-supply-ac-adapter-for-apple-ibook-late-2001-model-more-25274
[10:45] <danimo> ScottK: who is in charge of security-related changes to Qt/KDE packages at Canonical?
[10:53] <apachelogger> danimo: ubuntu security team/us
[10:53] <danimo> apachelogger: can anyone of the security team get in touch with the responsible Qt devs (#qt-earth-team) ?
[10:56] <apachelogger> micahg: ^
[10:59] <bulldog98> can I close bug #768641 with won’t fix cause upstream closed it with won’t fix
[11:11]  * bulldog98 is triaging amarok bugs
[11:15] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Not really
[11:16] <bulldog98> Quintasan: closing?
[11:16] <Quintasan> It looks like a upgrade problem
[11:16] <Quintasan> That's our bug
[11:17] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Did you confirm that this takes place?
[11:18] <bulldog98> Quintasan: I read the kde bug and it seems like it’s an amarok issue
[11:18] <Quintasan> Really?
[11:18] <bulldog98> Quintasan: forget that they closed it as upstream bug
[11:20] <Quintasan> Well, looking at the kde bug
[11:20] <Quintasan> Mark it as won
[11:20] <Quintasan> won't fix*
[11:21] <bulldog98> Quintasan: I can’t do that
[11:21] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Are you a kubuntu-member?
[11:21] <bulldog98> Quintasan: no
[11:22] <Quintasan> bulldog98: I believe you should be a member of https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[11:23] <Riddell> bulldog98: you can change he status to Incomplete bugs where you are asking for more information e.g. bug 389271
[11:23] <bulldog98> Riddell: ok I’ll do that
[11:25] <bulldog98> Riddell: if I ask them for reproducing it with a newer version is that also incomplete?
[11:25] <Riddell> yes I'd say so
[11:30]  * bulldog98 just closed on bug as fix released
[11:32] <bulldog98> bug #810500 is more a unity bug, isn’t it?
[11:41] <bulldog98> what to do if a package for -backports fails to install, du to some override issue?
[11:44] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: fix the package in oneiric ( if required ) and then backport to natty
[11:45] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: the package version in oneiric is higher than the one in backports
[11:45] <bulldog98> and it’s some translation stuff being overriden
[11:45] <shadeslayer> hmm .. no idea then, possibly just fix the backports package? Not entirely sure tho
[11:47] <Quintasan> Fix the backports package
[11:48] <bulldog98> Quintasan: the bug #789036 can’t be fixed by fixing the backport package, or am I wrong with that?
[11:48] <bulldog98> without droping the translation
[11:50]  * bulldog98 just noticed that the translation of KDE into German looks quite good (better than anytime before)
[11:50] <Quintasan> bulldog98: Look at the package version that is installed
[11:50] <Quintasan> I wonder where on Earth did he manage to get such a version
[11:50]  * bulldog98 does that, too
[11:50] <Quintasan> We can't possibly fix that
[11:51] <Quintasan> I think you should mark that as Invalid and tell the user to use official packages
[11:51] <bulldog98> Quintasan: ok
[11:52] <shadeslayer> whut
[11:52] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: he has amarok 0:1.1.1
[11:52] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: yeah, thats what i was looking at
[11:53] <shadeslayer> wth? :P
[11:57] <debfx> agateau: could you have a look at bug #631794? it's quite annoying :/
[11:59] <agateau> debfx: will do
[11:59] <debfx> thanks!
[12:32] <bulldog98> how do I link a launchpad bug to an kde bug?
[12:39] <ScottK> bulldog98: Click "Also affects project" and then paste the URL of the KDE bug into the box for URLs.
[12:39] <bulldog98> ScottK: ok thanks
[12:41] <Mamarok> there still is that file manager regression in Oneiric, I want my default Dolphin back :)
[12:42]  * ScottK has power back.
[12:42] <ScottK> How's ISO testing going?
[12:43] <bambee> the bug with the task manager is boring , seriously. :\
[12:43] <ScottK> What bug is that?
[12:43] <ScottK> Is that the same one Mamarok has?
[12:43] <bambee> when you click on "x" to close a window, it does not disappear from the task manager once the window is closed
[12:45] <bambee> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
[12:45] <Mamarok> ScottK: it's not a KDEKonqueror instead of Dolphin
[12:46]  * bambee wonders if this bug will be fixed , one day.
[12:46] <Mamarok> ScottK: it's not a KDE bug but a distro bug, the default file manager ids Konqueror instead of Dolphin
[12:46] <ScottK> Mamarok: OK.  That's odd.  
[12:46] <ScottK> bambee: Can you look into Mamarok's bug?
[12:47] <ScottK> claydoh: ^^^ That's a regression that we ought to release note if it's a general problem.
[12:49] <ScottK> OK. so the answer to my question about ISO testing is "Not very well".
[12:49] <bambee> ScottK: sure
[12:49] <ScottK> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all <-- Almost all the Kubuntu stuff is not done.
[12:52] <ScottK> bulldog98: Can you take a break on your bug triaging and do some ISO testing ^^^
[12:58] <bulldog98> ScottK: no I need about 6h to download an iso
[12:59] <bulldog98> an CD for the record
[12:59] <bambee> ScottK: which package does contain the default file manager ?
[13:04] <ScottK> bulldog98: OK (you can test with a USB stick) - I understand the download time is a killer.
[13:04] <ScottK> bambee: Either kubuntu-default-settings or kde-workspace.
[13:05] <bambee> ok
[13:05] <bambee> thanks
[13:10] <ScottK> debfx: How about you?  Can you do some ISO testing today?
[13:10]  * ScottK wonders if maybe txwikinger can too?
[13:15]  * bulldog98 proposes yofel to do iso testing
[13:17] <rbelem> Quintasan, ping
[13:27]  * bulldog98 now tries to get super moster kdepim tamed
[13:36] <rbelem> Quintasan, we need the kde-runtime-data-active
[13:36] <ScottK> debfx: Could you take a look at Bug 838099?
[13:36] <bulldog98> rbelem: what?
[13:37] <ScottK> Mamarok: I can't replicate your file manager default problem on a fresh install.  Not sure what's up with that.
[13:37] <rbelem> bulldog98, the active patches changes files that are installed in kde-runtime-data
[13:38] <bulldog98> rbelem: ok
[13:38] <rbelem> bulldog98, we need it back
[13:39]  * bulldog98 feels ashamed for suggesting to drop that
[13:40] <rbelem> bulldog98, did you see changes for the plasma-mobile since yesterday
[13:40] <rbelem> bulldog98, no worries
[13:40] <rbelem> ;-)
[13:40] <bulldog98> rbelem: no haven’t seen them
[13:41] <rbelem> bulldog98, loooots of changes :-D
[13:41] <rbelem> bulldog98, cool changes
[13:41] <rbelem> bulldog98, no need for symlink anymore
[13:41] <rbelem> plasma-mobile -> plasma-tablet
[13:42]  * bulldog98 gets exited
[13:42] <rbelem> plasma-mobile -> plasma-contour
[13:42]  * rbelem updates the packages
[13:44] <bulldog98> rbelem: so we have to update /usr/bin/startkde and create extra xsession files and modify our kubuntu-tablet-default and maybe introduce new default packages?
[13:45] <rbelem> bulldog98, we need to check what to do
[13:46] <bulldog98> rbelem: so quite some work to do :)
[13:46] <debfx> ScottK: I guess we need a new plasma-nm snapshot
[13:46] <rbelem> bulldog98, probably we will have one interface for both tablet and mobile
[13:47] <ScottK> debfx: I wasn't sure if it was that or just bugged version detection.  What we have works with NM.
[13:47] <rbelem> bulldog98, i think that package will be more simple now
[13:56] <bulldog98> do we still ship the notes plasmoid?
[14:00] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: the akonotes plasmoid or the normal plasmoid
[14:00] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: normal one
[14:01] <shadeslayer> don't think so, i didn't see it on my last install
[14:09] <shadeslayer> debfx: btw USE_GSTREAMER is now WTF_USE_GSTREAMER in qtwebkit
[14:10] <debfx> shadeslayer: eh, I wonder why they prefix everything with WTF
[14:10] <shadeslayer> that comes from apple i think :P
[14:11] <shadeslayer> but the guys over at #qtwebkit noticed this and told me to use WTF_USE_GSTREAMER
[14:11] <shadeslayer> USE_VIDEO is the same tho ..
[14:12] <shadeslayer> nigelb: poke
[14:12] <Mamarok> ScottK: where can I reset Dolphin to be default again?
[14:12] <nigelb> shadeslayer: pong
[14:12] <shadeslayer> nigelb: pm
[14:12] <nigelb> sure
[14:12] <bulldog98> Mamarok: systemsettings
[14:12] <Mamarok> bulldog98: I guessed so much, but where?
[14:12] <bulldog98> standard components
[14:12] <bambee> Mamarok: kcmshell4 componentchooser
[14:13] <bulldog98> or that one
[14:13] <bambee> --> file manager
[14:13] <Mamarok> the Device Notifier opens all devices with Konqueror now
[14:14] <bambee> then test with xdg-open /home/
[14:14] <Mamarok> somehow Konqueror is on top of the list there, that is certainly the reason why that changed
[14:15] <bambee> shadeslayer: what about FTW_USE_PHONON ? :P
[14:15] <Mamarok> works again, thanks
[14:15] <shadeslayer> hehe
[14:15] <shadeslayer> i was supposed to fix phonon support in qtwebkit .. but i have no idea how to do it and no time 
[14:23] <micahg> danimo: ACK on getting in touch with qt devs, which issue is this about?
[14:25] <shadeslayer> micahg: i think the google cert issue
[14:39] <micahg> shadeslayer: ok, will look into it a little later today
[14:41] <Mamarok> ximion: can you make your mind up?
[14:45] <shadeslayer> micahg: i'm not sure, i'm just assuming thats the problem :P
[14:47]  * bulldog98 is asking himself if the kubuntu-documentation is translatable atm?
[14:49] <ximion> Mamarok: about what?
[14:54] <Mamarok> ximion: about your permanent nick changes
[14:56] <ximion> Mamarok: I entered the channel at 13:40, until 16:41 there have been two nick changes due to network instability... But I was away for ~3 hours, so I haven't watched what Konversation was doing.
[14:56] <ximion> so, sorry if I bothered someone
[14:56] <ximion> (WLAN is not really great here...)
[15:11] <yofel> bulldog98: to close bugs won't fix you need to be a member of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[15:12] <yofel> also, can someone try to resurrect bug 324523 ? I don't have time and it's blocking digikam
[15:21] <agateau> debfx: regarding bug 631794, I can't get thunderbird or evolution to show up in my message indicator widget :/
[15:26] <yofel> bbl
[15:28] <jussi> apachelogger: is a strange person :D :P
[15:29] <shadeslayer> you just realized that?
[15:29] <debfx> agateau: do you have libunity installed?
[15:29] <apachelogger> lolwut?
[15:29] <apachelogger> why me
[15:29] <apachelogger> ?
[15:29] <apachelogger> wtf
[15:30] <agateau> debfx: libunity3 and libunity5
[15:30] <jussi> shadeslayer: shush, you are the scapegoat today...
[15:30] <agateau> debfx: and I can see the extension from within thunderbird
[15:30] <jussi> :P
[15:30] <shadeslayer> whut?
[15:30] <shadeslayer> jussi: i'm always the scapegoat :P
[15:31] <apachelogger> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=scapegoat
[15:33] <debfx> agateau: that's weird, maybe something is broken in thunderbird 7. I still have version 6.
[15:34] <agateau> debfx: could be
[15:38] <debfx> agateau: hm no, it works fine for me on tb7
[15:38] <debfx> so it doesn't even show up in the addons maanger?
[15:38] <debfx> *manager
[15:39] <agateau> debfx: it does show up in the addons manager, but the message indicator widget does not detect it
[15:39] <debfx> agateau: aha, you need libunity4 :P
[15:40] <debfx> or apply my patch from bug #817598
[15:40] <agateau> debfx: /o\
[15:41] <agateau> debfx: yay, crashed it!
[15:44] <shadeslayer> haha
[15:44] <debfx> success! :)
[15:44] <agateau> debfx: for a certain value of success ;)
[16:09] <ScottK> claydoh: I think we need to mention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/837681 in our release notes for beta 1.
[17:05]  * bambee does iso testing
[17:11] <shadeslayer> debfx: now i know why building qtwebkit is such a PITA
[17:11] <shadeslayer> yofel's system killed ld because the system load was too high i think
[17:12] <shadeslayer> and my system crapped out because i don't have enough RAM to do a tmpfs build :P
[17:29] <Quintasan> rbelem: Why do we?
[17:38] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: nerner jussi sez
[17:38] <shadeslayer> huh?
[17:38] <apachelogger> he is mocking you
[17:39] <shadeslayer> -.-
[17:39] <jussi> apachelogger: thinks my wine is whiny...
[17:39] <apachelogger> well, it is wine, or so the rumor goes
[17:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Maybe don't use tmpfs then?
[17:40] <Quintasan> PROTIP: eatmydata
[17:41] <jussi> Quintasan: apachelogger thinks you need to do more work... 
[17:41] <apachelogger> BROTIP: ...:::do more work:::...
[17:41] <Quintasan> I think he needs to more do work too
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: PROTIP: icecc
[17:42] <apachelogger> I was doing dragon debugging all day long
[17:42] <Quintasan> to do*
[17:42] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: how would icecream help with linking?
[17:42] <apachelogger> what sort of icecream are we talking about anyway
[17:42] <shadeslayer> not linking, but building, yes
[17:42] <apachelogger> choclit?
[17:42] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: How is it related to missing space on tmpfs?
[17:42] <jussi> apachelogger: rubbish! you were at the monastry with me!!!
[17:42] <Quintasan> jussi++
[17:42] <shadeslayer> lol
[17:42] <apachelogger> but in my mind I was debugging dragon
[17:42] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: doesn't help with tmpfs yes
[17:43] <Quintasan> Besides it's not really Kubuntu oriented
[17:43] <Quintasan> inb4 we ship Dragon by default
[17:43] <jussi> Quintasan: however, you have to give him some credit, we did come home instead of heading to the brewery..
[17:44] <Quintasan> And, no matter how you look at it I can't do shit before new runtime hits archive
[17:44] <Quintasan> ScottK: Also, please reject this upload, looks like we need -data after all
[17:44] <ScottK> Which package?
[17:44] <Quintasan> kde-runtime
[17:44] <Quintasan> rbelem said we need -data after all
[17:45] <Quintasan> rbelem: I assume you will take care of the packaging, when done send merge request and link me and ScottK to it please
[17:45] <Quintasan> Since my last year in high school is starting tomorrow I will gradually become less active
[17:46] <apachelogger> even though we were only like 5 minutes from the brewery!!!E#!!!!!
[17:46] <apachelogger> that surely would have ended well
[17:58] <rbelem> Quintasan, coz the active patches changes files that goes to -data
[17:59] <rbelem> Quintasan, oki i will  do that today :-)
[17:59] <ScottK> Quintasan: Rejected.
[17:59] <Quintasan> ScottK: Thanks
[18:11] <Quintasan> rbelem: Cool
[18:11]  * Quintasan goes off to wash and iron his shirt
[18:19] <apachelogger> jussi is totally whiny
[18:48] <shadeslayer> yofel: ping
[18:52] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I heard you are using zsh
[18:52] <shadeslayer> yep
[18:52]  * bulldog98 too
[18:52] <shadeslayer> :)
[18:52] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: than you’ll use code of mine by p-series
[18:52] <bulldog98> cause I got a patch accepted
[18:53] <shadeslayer> hahaha :D
[18:53] <shadeslayer> awesome :D
[18:53] <bulldog98> apt-get changelog wasn’t recogniced as valid so I did it
[18:54] <bulldog98> btw I also have a nice project neon function with complition
[18:54] <shadeslayer> ??
[18:54] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: we already have neonmake and neon-cmake
[18:54] <shadeslayer>  feel free to add your stuff to the wiki
[18:55] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: a function to toggle on and of the ppa for apt-get, so you can save download size
[18:55] <shadeslayer> ah
[18:55] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:56] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: completion knows if it’s turned on or off and does the other thing
[18:57] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: soon to find under kde:scratch/kolberg/zshfolder
[18:57] <bulldog98> and ninja releted function too
[19:02] <ScottK> bambee: Would you please mark the bug you found ISO testing as "serious".
[19:03] <ScottK> And then test some other stuff, we really need more amd64 test results.
[19:05] <bambee> ScottK: sure
[19:05] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:07] <ScottK> kubuntu-full takes a LONG time to install.
[19:07] <bambee> how can I mark the bug as "serious" ? I need to change the importance, but I cannot :\
[19:07] <ScottK> Better than it was when it installed every language pack in existance.
[19:07] <ScottK> bambee: Do it in the ISO tracker, not LP.
[19:07] <bambee> oh
[19:08] <bambee> ok
[19:08] <ScottK> There's a check box for it.
[19:09] <bambee> done
[19:09] <ScottK> Great.
[19:34] <shadeslayer> wohoo
[19:34] <shadeslayer> building webkit with j20
[19:38] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: what icecream farm do you have?
[19:39] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: :P ... a i7 processor + a Core 2 Duo processor
[19:39] <shadeslayer> and it's still not stressfull enough
[19:39] <shadeslayer> i mean half my core's are empty
[19:39] <shadeslayer> on the i7
[19:40] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: we should build whole kubuntu on your network, would be faster than launchpad
[19:41] <shadeslayer> probably :P
[19:41]  * shadeslayer bumps build jobs to 25
[19:41] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: unfortunately i've already commited by farm to KDE :)
[19:41] <shadeslayer> as soon as they work out how to dispatch jobs to me server
[19:42] <shadeslayer> s/by/my/
[19:42] <kubotu> shadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"
[19:43] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i might also hook up another machine in the near future
[19:44] <shadeslayer> 3 GHz Core 2 Duo :P
[19:44] <yofel> shadeslayer: Y U MAKE MY SERVER GO OOM?
[19:44] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: why do you have all that stuff and my pc is like crap :)
[19:44]  * yofel goes looking what actually happened
[19:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: LOL
[19:44] <shadeslayer> yofel: i didn't do anything
[19:44] <yofel> [11914826.003773] Out of memory: Kill process 3418 (ld) score 102 or sacrifice child
[19:44] <shadeslayer> last time i checked it was working
[19:45] <shadeslayer> yofel: how long ago is this?
[19:45] <yofel> well, that was probably what killed your ld just now
[19:45] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:45] <shadeslayer> makes sense
[19:45] <yofel> that was the only thing that was killed though
[19:45] <shadeslayer> also ... muwhahahahaah v
[19:45] <shadeslayer> http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/31/plasma-desktopQN1643.jpg
[19:46] <shadeslayer> building with j25 :>
[19:47] <shadeslayer> !!!!!!
[19:47] <shadeslayer> core temps upto 95oC
[19:47] <shadeslayer> ah
[19:47] <shadeslayer> build failiure @_@
[19:49] <shadeslayer> yofel: any ideas on this http://paste.kde.org/116815/
[19:50] <shadeslayer> looks like icecc ran out of memory ... but i have enough memory on both systems
[19:50] <yofel> ICECC[1181] 19:47:42: the server ran out of memory, recompiling locally -> bwahahaha
[19:50] <yofel> but no idea why
[19:51] <shadeslayer> weird
[19:51] <shadeslayer> i have like 2.7GB's free on the server
[19:51] <shadeslayer> 1.5  GB's on the other laptop
[19:55] <shadeslayer> yofel: btw i don't think it's sending me jobs anymore
[19:55] <shadeslayer> if i resume it with  dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc
[19:55] <yofel> missing -j ?
[19:56] <shadeslayer> ah yes
[20:02] <shadeslayer> hmpf
[20:02] <shadeslayer> failed again
[20:02] <shadeslayer> yofel: all of this icecc output makes this hard to debug
[20:02] <yofel> well, turn it off then...
[20:03] <shadeslayer> turn off the icecc?
[20:03] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: output
[20:03] <shadeslayer> how?
[20:04] <bulldog98> unset ICECREAM_DEBUG
[20:08] <shadeslayer> "ICECC[8073] 20:04:33: the server ran out of memory, recompiling locally" ... again?
[20:08] <apachelogger> yofel: Y U HAVE SO LITTLE MEMORY
[20:09] <yofel> sec, I'm doing some cleanup right now
[20:21] <shadeslayer> hey ld, y u so slow
[20:21] <shadeslayer> zomg
[20:21] <shadeslayer> qtwebkit compiled
[20:22] <shadeslayer> in like 30 minutes
[20:22] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: *hm*
[20:22] <shadeslayer> the number of jobs was way too high initially which was causing build failiures
[20:22] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: go and fix icecream, it soon will appear at projects.kde.org
[20:22] <shadeslayer> took it down to 15 again and it works just fine
[20:23] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: number of jobs was way too much
[20:25] <ScottK> shadeslayer: # of available CPUs +1 is the best number I've found.
[20:25] <shadeslayer> ScottK: well ... when using 15 earlier, my machine's didn't have enough load
[20:26] <apachelogger> "enough"
[20:26] <ScottK> Hmmm.  OK.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> so i kept bumping the values till they had acceptable load :P
[20:26] <ScottK> Not every part of the job is icecreamable.
[20:26] <shadeslayer> yeah, the build got ahead of itself and toppled
[20:28] <apachelogger> particularly the first quater of a build is not
[20:28] <bambee> ScottK: testing done
[20:28]  * Quintasan uses -j5
[20:28] <apachelogger> because that is moc and bootstrap usually
[20:28] <apachelogger> which is part of the not-icrecreamable
[20:30] <shadeslayer> well .qtwebkit is done, just checking a couple of things
[20:32] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: push push push and hurry up :P, now for real check everything works and push :) 
[20:32] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Any info on HP Touchpads?
[20:32] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: one last batch is being manf.
[20:32] <shadeslayer> will take a couple of weeks
[20:32] <Quintasan> God damnit
[20:33] <Quintasan> I gotta make it this time
[20:33] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: the good news is, someone told me that a major part of them are headed for the EU this time
[20:34] <Quintasan> !!!
[20:34]  * Quintasan checks his account balace
[20:34] <Quintasan> 311 polish zloty
[20:35] <bulldog98> apachelogger: could we include zsh into recommends for kubuntu-dev-tools and install some completions for our tools, which I would write?
[20:35] <Quintasan> 100$ == 280 zloty
[20:35]  * Quintasan can afford this
[20:35] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: i don't think there's a bzr branch for qtwebkit
[20:38] <shadeslayer> so, do i upload to ninjas?
[20:38] <shadeslayer> or to my own ppa
[20:42] <ScottK> bambee: Thanks.
[20:44] <bambee> yw
[20:44]  * bambee is watching "x-men first class"
[20:46] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: ninjas
[20:47] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: uh .. ok, seeing how the builders were empty i uploaded it to my ppa
[20:47] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: mh that’s ok
[20:47] <bulldog98> i just wanted to use ninja enable
[20:48] <shadeslayer> debfx: apachelogger https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental << new qtwebkit landing there
[20:48] <shadeslayer> will take a bazillion days to build
[20:59] <shadeslayer> i'm off to sleep
[20:59] <shadeslayer> night guys
[21:01] <apachelogger> you could have put it into a more official ppa really :P
[21:06] <apachelogger> bulldog98: ping
[21:06] <bulldog98> apachelogger: pong
[21:06] <apachelogger> bulldog98: are you doing testing?
[21:06] <apachelogger> for b1
[21:06] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I would if you mind sending my a DVD or CD ^^
[21:06] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: ^
[21:07] <ScottK> You can use a usb stick.
[21:07] <apachelogger> bulldog98: how slow is your connection? :O
[21:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: 56kbit/s down
[21:07] <apachelogger> why?
[21:07] <apachelogger> you should like upgrade
[21:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes I love that kind off stuff
[21:08] <apachelogger> kubotu: google fast internetz germany
[21:08] <kubotu> Results for fast internetz germany: 1. DSL Germany - Introduction to Internet Providers in Germany: http://dsl-germany.com/en/ | 2. Fast Internet in Germany?: http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t38647.html | 3. High speed and volume internet providers - Germany: http://www.toytowngermany.com/lofi/index.php/t135189.html
[21:08] <apachelogger> there you go
[21:13] <Quintasan> Good night
[21:13] <yofel> gn
[21:13]  * bulldog98 heads of for bed, too and I won’t be much on tomorrow 
[21:14] <Quintasan> Same here
[21:16] <apachelogger> ScottK: where are the testing instructions anyway?
[21:16] <ScottK> apachelogger: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all
[21:17] <apachelogger> branding ftw
[21:31] <ScottK> No claydoh ...
[21:42] <DarkwingDuck> bulldog98, Where you at?
[22:09] <claydoh> ScottK: got the 2 bug reports you mentioned, but what are the highlight for beta? can I assume upgrading is good for testing?
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> herp derp, just spent two hours debugging an issue that was me not returning something from a non-void function, and then trying to reference what the function should have returned :?
[23:23] <JontheEchidna> :/
[23:35] <ScottK> claydoh: I think it's Alpha 3 + mostly bug fixing and increased stability.
[23:35] <claydoh> lol sorry bout that
[23:37] <claydoh> so is upgrading something we can recommend yet, or wait till beta or rc?
[23:52]  * JontheEchidna added a muon screenie to the alpha3 wiki page
[23:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: jussi was asking earlier whether http://blog.canonical.com/2011/08/30/oil-rush-ubuntu-software-center/ will be available in the muon software empire
[23:56] <apachelogger> RuntimeError: the PyQt4.QtCore module is version 1 but the PyKDE4.kdeui module requires version -1
[23:56] <apachelogger> halp?
[23:59] <apachelogger> jtechidna: <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: jussi was asking earlier whether http://blog.canonical.com/2011/08/30/oil-rush-ubuntu-software-center/ will be available in the muon software empire