[00:10] <hugodidier> Hi
[00:13] <hugodidier> Hi guys can i help to config sylpheed?
[00:29] <hugodidier> configured sucefull guys thanks! :-D
[06:51] <iamfennec> hi is anyone up ?
[06:54]  * iamfennec pokes the room 
[06:55] <iamfennec> is there anyone awake that can offer a hand to a new lubuntu user?
[06:55] <bioterror> sure
[06:55] <bioterror> if I can lend
[06:56] <iamfennec> oh sweet i thought nobody was around
[06:56] <bioterror> almost always someone is
[06:56] <iamfennec> well i'm pretty new to linux in general and was useing ubuntu
[06:57] <iamfennec> then someone turned me towards lubuntu because my computer is a bit on the older side and it runs better
[06:57] <iamfennec> and it does
[06:57] <iamfennec> but i'm alittle stuck with a few things
[06:58] <iamfennec> like i just installed wine and it didn't turn up in my drop down list
[06:59] <iamfennec> is there a setting or something that i'm doing wrong or does lubuntu rely on terminal way more then ubuntu
[07:00] <iamfennec> because i'm lost when it come to knowing the terminal protocal
[07:05] <iamfennec> sorry hope i didn't miss the answer
[07:06] <iamfennec> bioterror ?
[07:06] <bioterror> sorry
[07:06] <bioterror> I'm at work ;)
[07:06] <iamfennec> thats not a prob
[07:06] <bioterror> !wine | iamfennec
[07:06] <bioterror> that's all I know about wine, I've couple of times played Fallout using WINE
[07:06] <bioterror> and that's all :D
[07:08] <iamfennec> i've had it installed on ubuntu and it gave its own listing in the dropdown with everything installed in its dropdown
[07:08] <bioterror> lxde menu reads .desktop -files from /usr/share/applications/ folder
[07:08] <iamfennec> when i installed it in lubuntu it never loged it in the dropdown
[07:08] <bioterror> if you mean that "start" -menu in your statusbar
[07:08] <iamfennec> yes
[07:09] <bioterror> that's the reason
[07:09] <iamfennec> thats what i'm talking about
[07:11] <iamfennec> ok so is there a way to add a folder location to the lxde so it will read the programs that i add after the fact ?
[07:11] <iamfennec> i don't know the infastructure at all
[07:12] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#To_start.2BAC8-run_Windows_programs_using_Wine
[07:17] <JadedJacob> Would it be possible to setup VirtualBox on lubuntu and run vista on a machine with 2GB RAM and a  dual core 1.7ghz cpu?
[07:17] <bioterror> sure
[07:17] <bioterror> !virtualbox | JadedJacob
[07:18] <bioterror> remember, Vista likes RAM ;)
[07:19] <JadedJacob> yeah
[07:19] <JadedJacob> :(
[07:19] <JadedJacob> I could give it 1GB ;)
[07:19] <bioterror> or if you dont surf web much at the time, you can give easily 1.5GB
[07:20] <iamfennec> i'm still really lost
[07:20] <iamfennec> i don't see that wine works on lubuntu
[07:20] <iamfennec> just the standard version
[07:21] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Hi
[07:21] <bioterror> iamfennec, as I said, that menu reads all the stuff from /usr/share/applications/, that's why you dont get your installed wine stuff there
[07:22] <bioterror> hi JohnDoe_71Rus
[07:22] <JadedJacob> but won't virtualbox and lubuntu need at least 1gb ?
[07:22] <JadedJacob> 2GB total
[07:23] <iamfennec> ok so my question was can i add a folder location to the lxde so it will ?
[07:23] <JohnDoe_71Rus> need some help with pcmanfm. is it good place?
[07:23] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, just ask ;)
[07:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> pcmanfm %U result no file or folder
[07:24] <JohnDoe_71Rus> lubuntu 10.04
[07:25] <JohnDoe_71Rus> update from lxde and lubuntu-desktop ppa
[07:25] <bioterror> hmm
[07:27] <JohnDoe_71Rus> 3 times repeat. lubuntu in virtual box and ubuntu 10.04 + lxde and lubuntu-desktop ppa
[07:27] <bioterror> Guest21521, WAKEUP
[07:27] <bioterror> Guest21521, waky waky waky
[07:28] <bioterror> iamfennec, you can create .desktop file to your Desktop with certain launch parameters
[07:29] <iamfennec> ok i would need a compleate walk though on that lol
[07:29] <bioterror> iamfennec, take example from /usr/share/applications/
[07:29] <iamfennec> is there a linux for dummies book out there hahaha
[07:29] <bioterror> and change exec and some things to match ;)
[07:30] <iamfennec> ok i'll try
[07:30] <bioterror> Unit19, run pcmanfm %U in terminal
[07:30] <Unit19> No such file or directory
[07:31] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, you're not alone ;)
[07:31] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: this comand start FM from menu.
[07:32] <JohnDoe_71Rus> but i can't see files and folder
[07:32] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, edit /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop
[07:32] <bioterror> if that's the one that has exec=pcmanfm %U
[07:32] <JohnDoe_71Rus> how?
[07:34] <JohnDoe_71Rus> pcmanfm2 0.9.8+git-6240436419-0ubuntu1~lucid3
[07:34] <bioterror> JohnDoe_71Rus, with leafpad or nano or vim
[07:34] <iamfennec> is there a help doc built into the os like in wins?
[07:36] <JohnDoe_71Rus> no /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop exist /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm2.desktop with Exec=pcmanfm %U command
[07:36] <bioterror> yes
[07:37] <bioterror> edit pcmanfm2 then and remove %U for example
[07:38] <JohnDoe_71Rus> just in console pcmanfm not the same?
[07:38] <bioterror> hmm
[07:38] <bioterror> if you run in terminal just command: pcmanfm
[07:38] <bioterror> does it work?
[07:38] <bioterror> without %U
[07:38] <bioterror> let's try that first, before we edit that
[07:39] <JohnDoe_71Rus> no effect
[07:39] <bioterror> it doesnt work at all?
[07:39] <JohnDoe_71Rus> yes
[07:39] <bioterror> okay
[07:40] <bioterror> gotta think :D
[07:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> pastebin.com/RwRVgPy9 .xsessions-error
[07:44] <bioterror> looks empty
[07:47] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://pastebin.com/RwRVgPY9
[07:57] <JohnDoe_71Rus> afk to 40 minuts
[08:44] <JadedJacob> Is there an equivilaint of PowerToysXP for Vista?
[08:45] <JadedJacob> whoops wrong channel
[08:46] <Unit193> Haha! Yep, major wrong channel :P
[08:48] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bioterror: i'm back. any ideas?
[08:54] <bioterror> not yet
[08:54] <bioterror> been rather busy :D
[09:00] <bioterror> Unit193, do you have problems with pcmanfm launching from menu?
[09:03] <Unit193> No, checking .desktop file now
[09:04] <bioterror> you can launch it from the terminal without a problem?
[09:06] <Unit193> Exec=pcmanfm %U in desktop, but that fails from terminal :P
[09:06] <bioterror> what about without %U
[09:07] <Unit193> No, that one is fine
[09:08] <JohnDoe_71Rus> menu - Run  pcmanfm and pcmanfm %U not work to
[09:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> desktop, folders and icons is pcmanfm to? can be problem to start another pcmanfm process?
[09:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> ubuntu 10.04. LXDE session and Lubuntu session. One computer. In LXDE session right btn menu = "create, copy...". in Lubuntu session right btn menu = LXDE "applications, desktops, reload config.." For Lubuntu session need menu "create, copy..."
[09:43] <JohnDoe_71Rus> that differents?
[11:24] <weakref> hi guys, I've downloaded a minimal cd of lubuntu in order to install it on my p4 3.20ghz/256mb ram
[11:25] <weakref> it run fine but when i try to click on "install lubuntu" it freeze
[11:25] <weakref> or installation does not start
[11:25] <weakref> any way to start installation without the entire ui?
[11:25] <bioterror> !mini | weakref
[11:26] <bioterror> weakref, and when you get to console you run command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends
[11:26] <weakref> that's strange because that cd start with UI and an icon "Install Lubuntu" on desktop
[11:27] <weakref> oops just crashed ubiquity
[11:27] <weakref> :?
[11:27] <weakref> nothing the installer won't start :(
[11:28] <bioterror> ofcourse you can check what's under /var/log/
[11:28] <bioterror> like /var/log/messages
[13:31] <usr13> I've installed lubuntu* on a regular 11.04 ubuntu system, and lxpanelctl commands do not work.
[13:32] <usr13> Anyone know how to fix it?
[13:35] <usr13> "lxpanelctl run"  does nothing.
[13:35] <usr13> "lxpanelctl menu"  does nothing.
[13:35] <usr13> etc.
[13:48] <usr13> hummm.... I killed lxpanel and restarted it, and the lxpanelctl commands work now.
[13:49] <eldapp> Hello fiends
[13:52] <eldapp> Is it safe to do a dist-upgrade from Lubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 in the update manager. I couldnt install 11.04 from disc
[13:52] <bioterror> yes
[13:53] <bioterror> I've done it few times
[13:53] <eldapp> thanks i will try
[13:54] <bioterror> do-release-upgrade
[13:54] <bioterror> sudo before that command ;)
[13:54] <eldapp> ok
[14:05] <JadedJacob> hi.
[14:05] <JadedJacob> What is new in 11.04 compared to 10.10 ?
[14:07] <bioterror> mostly less bugs
[14:07] <bioterror> and different theme
[14:08] <JadedJacob> ok cool
[14:08] <bioterror> like fixed xdg
[14:08] <JadedJacob> i just got a bit confused with ubuntu updating with unity
[14:09] <JadedJacob> This OS looks amazingly fast
[14:09] <bioterror> I hope it feels too
[14:10] <JadedJacob> whats the default install size?
[14:10] <bioterror> it was around 2GB
[14:10] <bioterror> was it 2.3GB
[14:12] <JadedJacob> oh yep.
[14:12] <bioterror> 11.10 is going to be really good looking ;)
[14:12] <bioterror> can hardly wait
[14:12] <JadedJacob> whats the best way to get divx codecs, dvd, setup ?
[14:12] <bioterror> JadedJacob, I've preferred VLC
[14:12] <bioterror> even if it's a QT instead of GTK
[14:16] <JadedJacob> i'm trying to install open office, do i select 'linux intel DEB' or 'linux x86-64 DEB'
[14:16] <JadedJacob> The cpu is a dual core 1.7ghz cpu with only 32bit instruction set.
[14:16] <bioterror> with 11.04 you will be using LibreOffice
[14:16] <bioterror> and that's found from the repos
[14:17] <bioterror> so if you're going to upgrade to 11.04, you will have LibreOffice (which is good ;)
[14:17] <JadedJacob> you prefer it over openoffice
[14:17] <bioterror> we all do
[14:18] <bioterror> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/general-faq/why-was-libreoffice-launched/
[14:22] <JadedJacob> cool
[14:22] <JadedJacob> how about firefox?
[14:23] <JadedJacob> or are you a chromium fan ;)
[14:23] <bioterror> I'm using Chromium
[14:23] <bioterror> it had a working sync before FireFox ;)
[14:23] <JadedJacob> do you use compiz?
[14:23] <bioterror> (so did Opera before Chromium, but all the adblocks did suck)
[14:23] <bioterror> no I do not use
[14:23] <bioterror> I have better use for my graphics card
[14:28] <ubuntu_> HI
[14:29] <bioterror> hi again
[14:31] <ubuntu_> how do i get flash working in lubuntu
[14:31] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:33] <ubuntu_> thanks
[14:34] <ubuntu_> do you use any linux download managers?
[14:35] <bioterror> what do you mean?
[14:35] <ubuntu_> something that downloads with multiple connections
[14:35] <bioterror> like transmission :---------D
[14:35] <bioterror> and no, I dont use such things for the WWW
[14:35] <ubuntu_> ooosh what is that?
[14:36] <bioterror> curl -O or wget
[14:40] <silverarrow> what happened to the wireless signal indicator on this version of lubuntu?
[14:40] <silverarrow> it used to tell signal health a bit more detailed
[14:40] <silverarrow> or at least strength,
[14:42] <silverarrow> will removing vlc, and reinstall affect mplayer/gnomplayer functions?
[14:42] <bioterror> you tell us
[14:49] <silverarrow> that is what I am afraid of lol
[14:49] <silverarrow> not daring to mess when gnomeplayer works fine
[14:50] <silverarrow> just a few things it will not do
[14:50] <silverarrow> which vlc used to do fine
[14:59] <JadedJacob> is it possible to run lubuntu and opensuse out of the same partition?
[14:59] <bioterror> what do you think?
[15:00] <JadedJacob> yes
[15:00] <bioterror> only if you're using virtual computer
[15:01]  * silverarrow poors coffee and chocolate into bioterror, hoping it will improve his mood
[15:01] <bioterror> now someone should tell me how do I copy this windows xp's administrator theme to default users
[15:02] <silverarrow> do you have a computer with multiple user login?
[15:02] <bioterror> soon I have
[15:03] <silverarrow> i see
[15:04] <silverarrow> I just let people use my computer, if needed
[15:04] <silverarrow> only one login,
[15:04] <bioterror> doesnt work in corporate environmen t:D
[15:06] <bioterror> Default User is hidden! ;D
[15:06] <silverarrow> lol
[15:07] <bioterror> I'll make one and copy those to Default User
[15:16] <silverarrow> all that within 6 seconds?
[15:30] <silverarrow> anyone every used audacious ?
[15:31] <silverarrow> I think it is able to play online radio streams
[15:31] <silverarrow> but when opening url, I get "no decoder found"
[18:10] <bodhi_zazen> Anyone here interested in reading a little something I wrote on iptables ?
[18:10] <bodhi_zazen> http://bodhizazen.net/IPTables.odt
[18:23] <Unit193> That's something I'm going to hold onto. The router has a very nice web interface, but it's built on iptables
[18:44] <vort3x> Has anyone tried editing the isolist.ini file for Wubi and recompiling to enable Wubi installs of lubuntu in windows?
[18:45] <vort3x> Is isolist.ini the only file that needs to be edited for it to work?
[18:45] <vort3x> I have tried compiling Wubi from source to no avail. The compile goes smoothly w/o any errors, but the wubi.exe won't execute normally.
[18:46] <vort3x> It does nothing when executing.
[18:46] <vort3x> I am compiling it in linux.
[18:47] <bioterror> we're not friends of WUBI ;)
[18:47] <vort3x> haha. Me neither at this stage.
[18:47] <vort3x> But it is perfect/ the only thing that can work in my situation
[18:48] <vort3x> I don't have a windows disk for the laptop I am trying to get the Lubuntu install done on, and I can't format the drive. Wubi is my only solution if I could just get it to work this once.
[18:49] <vort3x> I do think Wubi is a wonderful way to get linux out there though...
[18:49] <bioterror> I think a plain installation is best
[18:50] <bodhi_zazen> +1 bioterror
[18:50] <bodhi_zazen> vort3x: try unetbootin + a flash drive
[18:50] <vort3x> I'd still need to partition the windows drive wouldn't I ?
[18:50] <bodhi_zazen> Once you are running lubuntu you can do things such as partition your hd, the installer in fact will handle it automatically
[18:51] <vort3x> How safe is it?
[18:51] <bodhi_zazen> What is so hard about partitioning the windows hd ?
[18:51] <bodhi_zazen> Installing an OS, by any method, is major surgery
[18:51] <vort3x> I can't risk having the bootloader get messed up at the moment.
[18:51] <bodhi_zazen> Usually well tolerated, but best back up any data first
[18:51] <vort3x> I don't think it has to be major surgery, but yes, in this case it is.
[18:51] <bodhi_zazen> You going to configure the windows boot loader to boot Linux ?
[18:52] <bioterror> so you bodhi say, but I bet you hardly never take backups when you do stuff like that ;)
[18:52] <vort3x> Lol who does :P
[18:52] <bodhi_zazen> bioterror: that is because I have everything backed up already
[18:52] <bodhi_zazen> I have an old box with an oversized hard drive that serves as a network backup
[18:53] <bodhi_zazen> Now my wife is a different matter
[18:53] <vort3x> Okay well, I guess I'll have to risk it. Worst case, I need to find a windows recovery disk somewhere.
[18:53] <bodhi_zazen> She keeps re-learning the need for backup, despite the network share, year after year
[18:53] <vort3x> Best case it works :D
[18:53] <vort3x> Thanks anyway
[18:53] <bioterror> bodhi_zazen, you have make rsync script into cron ;)
[18:53] <vort3x> Can't you just schedule backups
[18:54] <bodhi_zazen> no need bio
[18:54] <bodhi_zazen> If it is important, it goes to backup now
[18:56] <bodhi_zazen> vort3x: depends on the value of the data and frequency of backups
[19:07] <Unit193> What windows version? They should have a disk creator
[19:15] <vort3x> XP service pack 2
[19:15] <bioterror> :G
[19:16] <bioterror> is there a reason to not upgrade?
[19:16] <Unit193> bioterror: I know someone on XP Home (Note how I didn't list service pack)
[19:16] <Unit193> (NOT a good thing)
[19:16] <vort3x> @bioterror
[19:16] <meetingology> vort3x: Error: "bioterror" is not a valid command.
[19:17] <vort3x> That is terrible
[19:17] <vort3x> I was planning on upgrading, I just have limited internet access(had)
[19:17] <vort3x> So I haven't gotten around to upgrading yet.
[19:17] <bioterror> yeah, SP3 was 300MB or something
[19:17] <vort3x> Im from South Africa
[19:17] <bioterror> vuvuzelaman!
[19:17] <vort3x> and internet
[19:18] <vort3x> is expensive :/
[19:18] <bioterror> you have to loan mark's internet ;)
[19:18] <vort3x> Lol , I would be happy if I never heard another vuvuzela in my life
[19:18] <vort3x> Wish he would
[19:18] <vort3x> That's why he went to the UK :D
[19:18] <vort3x> ;)
[19:19] <vort3x> Anyway, I just want to get lubuntu up and running, hoping to totally get rid of the Windows installation anyways (eventually) if I can
[19:20] <vort3x> Going to try Lubuntu usb now and try and partition from within the installer
[19:49] <Guest6864> I just switched to lubuntu from windows xp a few days ago :)
[19:49] <Guest6864> I think I probably should have started with ubuntu for my first linux installation though.
[19:51] <bioterror> oh you kids, you're so spoiled ;)
[19:52] <Unit193> What? You want to make them compile their X? That's what Gentoo is for... ;)
[19:52] <bioterror> atleast to hunt some RPM packages around the internet
[19:53] <Unit193> Arch is for being built from the bottom up (Or netinst)
[19:59] <vort3x> I just recently built my main ubuntu system from minimal. The difference is amazing against the bloated desktop installs.
[19:59] <vort3x> Seems my lubuntu install with gparted windows partitioning worked :D
[20:00] <Unit193> What DE/WM you go with?
[20:00] <Unit193> Reboot will tell :P
[20:00] <vort3x> Im not building this install from minimal yet.
[20:01] <vort3x> So im using the desktop lubuntu install and DE/WM with it. Rebooting for install only now, if thats what your were asking?
[20:02] <vort3x> The minimal install i went with gnome DE/WM to compare the performance.
[20:03] <vort3x> What time-zone you guys in?
[20:03] <Unit193> Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:20 -0400
[21:11] <vort3x> Is there any way to configure or set keyboard shortcuts for lubuntu menu applications and launchers?
[21:11] <bioterror> explain more
[21:11] <bioterror> what button should do what
[21:12] <silverarrow> I want a button that writes thesises all in one touch
[21:13] <silverarrow> all my mediapayers are acting up today
[21:13] <silverarrow> nothing works
[21:13] <silverarrow> @£$½¥
[21:14] <vort3x> windows key -> main menu, trl+c browser, ctrl+f filemanager, etc
[21:14] <meetingology> silverarrow: Error: "£$½¥" is not a valid command.
[21:14] <bioterror> ahhh
[21:14] <silverarrow> meetingology, might be
[21:14] <bioterror> Unit193, want to explain to vort3x about rc.xml
[21:15] <vort3x> Ill go google it thanks.
[21:16] <Unit193> vort3x: The Lubuntu FAQs can be found at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and should provide you with the info you need
[21:16] <vort3x> Thanks :)
[21:17] <meetingology> silverarrow: Error: "might" is not a valid command.
[21:17] <silverarrow> meetingology, are you attempting clever remarks?
[21:17] <meetingology> silverarrow: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[21:18] <silverarrow> is meetingology  a bot?
[21:18] <bioterror> nope
[21:19] <silverarrow> that's just his personality then
[22:05] <vort3x> What is gedit alternative for lubuntu?
[22:06] <vort3x> Cant find anything on google or lubuntu docs.
[22:24] <vort3x> Anyone know how to do true transparency in lxterminal in lubuntu?
[22:50] <phillw> vort3x: lubuntu uses leafpad
[22:50] <vort3x> thanks
[22:50] <vort3x> It is a bit lightweight for me though.I just installed gedit.
[22:50] <phillw> I have an alias set uo, as I always forget when I swap systems :P
[22:51] <Unit193> vort3x: Ever used scite?
[22:51] <Unit193> !info scite
[22:51] <phillw> vort3x: I use BlueFish Editor, as gedit is too light wieght for me :D
[22:51] <phillw> *weight*
[22:51] <vort3x> scite looks pretty interesting
[22:52] <vort3x> ill give it a looksee
[23:13] <moomoo> Quick question: Is there an easy way to add applications to my startup list? My Desktop Sessions window doesn't have a "Add" button.
[23:14] <moomoo> Nevermind, I think I finally found it.
[23:16] <silverarrow> is anyone good at fixing major messed up stuff?
[23:18] <phillw> silverarrow: the best way is maintain a seperate /home partition and when you completely break things - do a re-install :)
[23:19] <silverarrow> I got that advice recently, but how do I do that?
[23:19] <phillw> silverarrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[23:20] <phillw> you'll never regret doing it, I assure you.
[23:21] <phillw> silverarrow: where it says to use gedit, use leafpad in lubuntu
[23:21] <moomoo> Yeah I should have done that as well.
[23:23]  * phillw is going to track down the author and ask why he did not use nano for the code editing... most puzzling.
[23:24] <silverarrow> tricky stuff
[23:26] <phillw> silverarrow: it is a little scary, but he has it written so things are checked. I've seen some horrible versions. The one I used was from one of the main forum admin people, but he no longer supports it and points people to that area.
[23:29] <silverarrow> I have manage to mess up gnomeplayer and even vlc
[23:30] <silverarrow> vlc is newly installed, after removal, but still the same problem; sound but no picture what ever I play
[23:30] <silverarrow> gnome stopped working today, and I haven't done any updates or installations since before the weekend
[23:30] <silverarrow> gnome player*
[23:34] <silverarrow> good night
[23:34] <silverarrow> I am not doing a thing until tomorrow