[00:10] Hi [00:13] Hi guys can i help to config sylpheed? [00:29] configured sucefull guys thanks! :-D [06:51] hi is anyone up ? [06:54] * iamfennec pokes the room [06:55] is there anyone awake that can offer a hand to a new lubuntu user? [06:55] sure [06:55] if I can lend [06:56] oh sweet i thought nobody was around [06:56] almost always someone is [06:56] well i'm pretty new to linux in general and was useing ubuntu [06:57] then someone turned me towards lubuntu because my computer is a bit on the older side and it runs better [06:57] and it does [06:57] but i'm alittle stuck with a few things [06:58] like i just installed wine and it didn't turn up in my drop down list [06:59] is there a setting or something that i'm doing wrong or does lubuntu rely on terminal way more then ubuntu [07:00] because i'm lost when it come to knowing the terminal protocal === zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie [07:05] sorry hope i didn't miss the answer [07:06] bioterror ? [07:06] sorry [07:06] I'm at work ;) [07:06] thats not a prob [07:06] !wine | iamfennec [07:06] iamfennec: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [07:06] that's all I know about wine, I've couple of times played Fallout using WINE [07:06] and that's all :D [07:08] i've had it installed on ubuntu and it gave its own listing in the dropdown with everything installed in its dropdown [07:08] lxde menu reads .desktop -files from /usr/share/applications/ folder [07:08] when i installed it in lubuntu it never loged it in the dropdown [07:08] if you mean that "start" -menu in your statusbar [07:08] yes [07:09] that's the reason [07:09] thats what i'm talking about [07:11] ok so is there a way to add a folder location to the lxde so it will read the programs that i add after the fact ? [07:11] i don't know the infastructure at all [07:12] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#To_start.2BAC8-run_Windows_programs_using_Wine [07:17] Would it be possible to setup VirtualBox on lubuntu and run vista on a machine with 2GB RAM and a dual core 1.7ghz cpu? [07:17] sure [07:17] !virtualbox | JadedJacob [07:17] JadedJacob: virtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox [07:18] remember, Vista likes RAM ;) [07:19] yeah [07:19] :( [07:19] I could give it 1GB ;) [07:19] or if you dont surf web much at the time, you can give easily 1.5GB [07:20] i'm still really lost [07:20] i don't see that wine works on lubuntu [07:20] just the standard version [07:21] Hi [07:21] iamfennec, as I said, that menu reads all the stuff from /usr/share/applications/, that's why you dont get your installed wine stuff there [07:22] hi JohnDoe_71Rus === Unit193 is now known as Guest21521 [07:22] but won't virtualbox and lubuntu need at least 1gb ? [07:22] 2GB total [07:23] ok so my question was can i add a folder location to the lxde so it will ? [07:23] need some help with pcmanfm. is it good place? [07:23] JohnDoe_71Rus, just ask ;) [07:24] pcmanfm %U result no file or folder [07:24] lubuntu 10.04 [07:25] update from lxde and lubuntu-desktop ppa [07:25] hmm [07:27] 3 times repeat. lubuntu in virtual box and ubuntu 10.04 + lxde and lubuntu-desktop ppa [07:27] Guest21521, WAKEUP [07:27] Guest21521, waky waky waky [07:28] iamfennec, you can create .desktop file to your Desktop with certain launch parameters [07:29] ok i would need a compleate walk though on that lol [07:29] iamfennec, take example from /usr/share/applications/ [07:29] is there a linux for dummies book out there hahaha [07:29] and change exec and some things to match ;) === Guest21521 is now known as Unit19 [07:30] ok i'll try [07:30] Unit19, run pcmanfm %U in terminal [07:30] No such file or directory [07:31] JohnDoe_71Rus, you're not alone ;) [07:31] bioterror: this comand start FM from menu. [07:32] but i can't see files and folder [07:32] JohnDoe_71Rus, edit /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop [07:32] if that's the one that has exec=pcmanfm %U [07:32] how? [07:34] pcmanfm2 0.9.8+git-6240436419-0ubuntu1~lucid3 [07:34] JohnDoe_71Rus, with leafpad or nano or vim [07:34] is there a help doc built into the os like in wins? [07:36] no /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm.desktop exist /usr/share/applications/pcmanfm2.desktop with Exec=pcmanfm %U command [07:36] yes [07:37] edit pcmanfm2 then and remove %U for example [07:38] just in console pcmanfm not the same? [07:38] hmm [07:38] if you run in terminal just command: pcmanfm [07:38] does it work? [07:38] without %U [07:38] let's try that first, before we edit that [07:39] no effect [07:39] it doesnt work at all? [07:39] yes [07:39] okay [07:40] gotta think :D === Unit19 is now known as Unit193 [07:43] pastebin.com/RwRVgPy9 .xsessions-error [07:44] looks empty [07:47] http://pastebin.com/RwRVgPY9 [07:57] afk to 40 minuts [08:44] Is there an equivilaint of PowerToysXP for Vista? [08:45] whoops wrong channel [08:46] Haha! Yep, major wrong channel :P [08:48] bioterror: i'm back. any ideas? [08:54] not yet [08:54] been rather busy :D [09:00] Unit193, do you have problems with pcmanfm launching from menu? [09:03] No, checking .desktop file now [09:04] you can launch it from the terminal without a problem? [09:06] Exec=pcmanfm %U in desktop, but that fails from terminal :P [09:06] what about without %U [09:07] No, that one is fine [09:08] menu - Run pcmanfm and pcmanfm %U not work to [09:13] desktop, folders and icons is pcmanfm to? can be problem to start another pcmanfm process? [09:43] ubuntu 10.04. LXDE session and Lubuntu session. One computer. In LXDE session right btn menu = "create, copy...". in Lubuntu session right btn menu = LXDE "applications, desktops, reload config.." For Lubuntu session need menu "create, copy..." [09:43] that differents? === MichealH is now known as Supernova [11:24] hi guys, I've downloaded a minimal cd of lubuntu in order to install it on my p4 3.20ghz/256mb ram [11:25] it run fine but when i try to click on "install lubuntu" it freeze [11:25] or installation does not start [11:25] any way to start installation without the entire ui? [11:25] !mini | weakref [11:25] weakref: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [11:26] weakref, and when you get to console you run command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop --no-install-recommends [11:26] that's strange because that cd start with UI and an icon "Install Lubuntu" on desktop [11:27] oops just crashed ubiquity [11:27] :? [11:27] nothing the installer won't start :( [11:28] ofcourse you can check what's under /var/log/ [11:28] like /var/log/messages [13:31] I've installed lubuntu* on a regular 11.04 ubuntu system, and lxpanelctl commands do not work. [13:32] Anyone know how to fix it? [13:35] "lxpanelctl run" does nothing. [13:35] "lxpanelctl menu" does nothing. [13:35] etc. [13:48] hummm.... I killed lxpanel and restarted it, and the lxpanelctl commands work now. [13:49] Hello fiends [13:52] Is it safe to do a dist-upgrade from Lubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 in the update manager. I couldnt install 11.04 from disc [13:52] yes [13:53] I've done it few times [13:53] thanks i will try [13:54] do-release-upgrade [13:54] sudo before that command ;) [13:54] ok [14:05] hi. [14:05] What is new in 11.04 compared to 10.10 ? [14:07] mostly less bugs [14:07] and different theme [14:08] ok cool [14:08] like fixed xdg [14:08] i just got a bit confused with ubuntu updating with unity [14:09] This OS looks amazingly fast [14:09] I hope it feels too [14:10] whats the default install size? [14:10] it was around 2GB [14:10] was it 2.3GB [14:12] oh yep. [14:12] 11.10 is going to be really good looking ;) [14:12] can hardly wait [14:12] whats the best way to get divx codecs, dvd, setup ? [14:12] JadedJacob, I've preferred VLC [14:12] even if it's a QT instead of GTK [14:16] i'm trying to install open office, do i select 'linux intel DEB' or 'linux x86-64 DEB' [14:16] The cpu is a dual core 1.7ghz cpu with only 32bit instruction set. [14:16] with 11.04 you will be using LibreOffice [14:16] and that's found from the repos [14:17] so if you're going to upgrade to 11.04, you will have LibreOffice (which is good ;) [14:17] you prefer it over openoffice [14:17] we all do [14:18] http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/faq/general-faq/why-was-libreoffice-launched/ [14:22] cool [14:22] how about firefox? [14:23] or are you a chromium fan ;) [14:23] I'm using Chromium [14:23] it had a working sync before FireFox ;) [14:23] do you use compiz? [14:23] (so did Opera before Chromium, but all the adblocks did suck) [14:23] no I do not use [14:23] I have better use for my graphics card [14:28] HI [14:29] hi again [14:31] how do i get flash working in lubuntu [14:31] sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree [14:33] thanks [14:34] do you use any linux download managers? [14:35] what do you mean? [14:35] something that downloads with multiple connections [14:35] like transmission :---------D [14:35] and no, I dont use such things for the WWW [14:35] ooosh what is that? [14:36] curl -O or wget [14:40] what happened to the wireless signal indicator on this version of lubuntu? [14:40] it used to tell signal health a bit more detailed [14:40] or at least strength, [14:42] will removing vlc, and reinstall affect mplayer/gnomplayer functions? [14:42] you tell us [14:49] that is what I am afraid of lol [14:49] not daring to mess when gnomeplayer works fine [14:50] just a few things it will not do [14:50] which vlc used to do fine [14:59] is it possible to run lubuntu and opensuse out of the same partition? [14:59] what do you think? [15:00] yes [15:00] only if you're using virtual computer [15:01] * silverarrow poors coffee and chocolate into bioterror, hoping it will improve his mood [15:01] now someone should tell me how do I copy this windows xp's administrator theme to default users [15:02] do you have a computer with multiple user login? [15:02] soon I have [15:03] i see [15:04] I just let people use my computer, if needed [15:04] only one login, [15:04] doesnt work in corporate environmen t:D [15:06] Default User is hidden! ;D [15:06] lol [15:07] I'll make one and copy those to Default User [15:16] all that within 6 seconds? [15:30] anyone every used audacious ? [15:31] I think it is able to play online radio streams [15:31] but when opening url, I get "no decoder found" === semitones is now known as sillytones [18:10] Anyone here interested in reading a little something I wrote on iptables ? [18:10] http://bodhizazen.net/IPTables.odt === zmijunkie_ is now known as zmijunkie [18:23] That's something I'm going to hold onto. The router has a very nice web interface, but it's built on iptables === moo is now known as Guest6864 [18:44] Has anyone tried editing the isolist.ini file for Wubi and recompiling to enable Wubi installs of lubuntu in windows? [18:45] Is isolist.ini the only file that needs to be edited for it to work? [18:45] I have tried compiling Wubi from source to no avail. The compile goes smoothly w/o any errors, but the wubi.exe won't execute normally. [18:46] It does nothing when executing. [18:46] I am compiling it in linux. [18:47] we're not friends of WUBI ;) [18:47] haha. Me neither at this stage. [18:47] But it is perfect/ the only thing that can work in my situation [18:48] I don't have a windows disk for the laptop I am trying to get the Lubuntu install done on, and I can't format the drive. Wubi is my only solution if I could just get it to work this once. [18:49] I do think Wubi is a wonderful way to get linux out there though... [18:49] I think a plain installation is best [18:50] +1 bioterror [18:50] vort3x: try unetbootin + a flash drive [18:50] I'd still need to partition the windows drive wouldn't I ? [18:50] Once you are running lubuntu you can do things such as partition your hd, the installer in fact will handle it automatically [18:51] How safe is it? [18:51] What is so hard about partitioning the windows hd ? [18:51] Installing an OS, by any method, is major surgery [18:51] I can't risk having the bootloader get messed up at the moment. [18:51] Usually well tolerated, but best back up any data first [18:51] I don't think it has to be major surgery, but yes, in this case it is. [18:51] You going to configure the windows boot loader to boot Linux ? [18:52] so you bodhi say, but I bet you hardly never take backups when you do stuff like that ;) [18:52] Lol who does :P [18:52] bioterror: that is because I have everything backed up already [18:52] I have an old box with an oversized hard drive that serves as a network backup [18:53] Now my wife is a different matter [18:53] Okay well, I guess I'll have to risk it. Worst case, I need to find a windows recovery disk somewhere. [18:53] She keeps re-learning the need for backup, despite the network share, year after year [18:53] Best case it works :D [18:53] Thanks anyway [18:53] bodhi_zazen, you have make rsync script into cron ;) [18:53] Can't you just schedule backups [18:54] no need bio [18:54] If it is important, it goes to backup now [18:56] vort3x: depends on the value of the data and frequency of backups [19:07] What windows version? They should have a disk creator [19:15] XP service pack 2 [19:15] :G [19:16] is there a reason to not upgrade? [19:16] bioterror: I know someone on XP Home (Note how I didn't list service pack) [19:16] (NOT a good thing) [19:16] @bioterror [19:16] vort3x: Error: "bioterror" is not a valid command. [19:17] That is terrible [19:17] I was planning on upgrading, I just have limited internet access(had) [19:17] So I haven't gotten around to upgrading yet. [19:17] yeah, SP3 was 300MB or something [19:17] Im from South Africa [19:17] vuvuzelaman! [19:17] and internet [19:18] is expensive :/ [19:18] you have to loan mark's internet ;) [19:18] Lol , I would be happy if I never heard another vuvuzela in my life [19:18] Wish he would [19:18] That's why he went to the UK :D [19:18] ;) [19:19] Anyway, I just want to get lubuntu up and running, hoping to totally get rid of the Windows installation anyways (eventually) if I can [19:20] Going to try Lubuntu usb now and try and partition from within the installer [19:49] I just switched to lubuntu from windows xp a few days ago :) [19:49] I think I probably should have started with ubuntu for my first linux installation though. [19:51] oh you kids, you're so spoiled ;) === Guest6864 is now known as moomoo [19:52] What? You want to make them compile their X? That's what Gentoo is for... ;) [19:52] atleast to hunt some RPM packages around the internet [19:53] Arch is for being built from the bottom up (Or netinst) [19:59] I just recently built my main ubuntu system from minimal. The difference is amazing against the bloated desktop installs. [19:59] Seems my lubuntu install with gparted windows partitioning worked :D [20:00] What DE/WM you go with? [20:00] Reboot will tell :P [20:00] Im not building this install from minimal yet. [20:01] So im using the desktop lubuntu install and DE/WM with it. Rebooting for install only now, if thats what your were asking? [20:02] The minimal install i went with gnome DE/WM to compare the performance. [20:03] What time-zone you guys in? [20:03] Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:03:20 -0400 [21:11] Is there any way to configure or set keyboard shortcuts for lubuntu menu applications and launchers? [21:11] explain more [21:11] what button should do what [21:12] I want a button that writes thesises all in one touch [21:13] all my mediapayers are acting up today [21:13] nothing works [21:13] @£$½¥ [21:14] windows key -> main menu, trl+c browser, ctrl+f filemanager, etc [21:14] silverarrow: Error: "£$½¥" is not a valid command. [21:14] ahhh [21:14] meetingology, might be [21:14] Unit193, want to explain to vort3x about rc.xml [21:15] Ill go google it thanks. [21:16] vort3x: The Lubuntu FAQs can be found at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ and should provide you with the info you need [21:16] Thanks :) [21:17] silverarrow: Error: "might" is not a valid command. [21:17] meetingology, are you attempting clever remarks? [21:17] silverarrow: Error: "are" is not a valid command. [21:18] is meetingology a bot? [21:18] nope [21:19] that's just his personality then [22:05] What is gedit alternative for lubuntu? [22:06] Cant find anything on google or lubuntu docs. [22:24] Anyone know how to do true transparency in lxterminal in lubuntu? [22:50] vort3x: lubuntu uses leafpad [22:50] thanks [22:50] It is a bit lightweight for me though.I just installed gedit. [22:50] I have an alias set uo, as I always forget when I swap systems :P [22:51] vort3x: Ever used scite? [22:51] !info scite [22:51] vort3x: I use BlueFish Editor, as gedit is too light wieght for me :D [22:51] scite (source: scite): Lightweight GTK-based Programming Editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.03-1 (natty), package size 950 kB, installed size 2376 kB [22:51] *weight* [22:51] scite looks pretty interesting [22:52] ill give it a looksee [23:13] Quick question: Is there an easy way to add applications to my startup list? My Desktop Sessions window doesn't have a "Add" button. [23:14] Nevermind, I think I finally found it. [23:16] is anyone good at fixing major messed up stuff? [23:18] silverarrow: the best way is maintain a seperate /home partition and when you completely break things - do a re-install :) [23:19] I got that advice recently, but how do I do that? [23:19] silverarrow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [23:20] you'll never regret doing it, I assure you. [23:21] silverarrow: where it says to use gedit, use leafpad in lubuntu [23:21] Yeah I should have done that as well. [23:23] * phillw is going to track down the author and ask why he did not use nano for the code editing... most puzzling. [23:24] tricky stuff [23:26] silverarrow: it is a little scary, but he has it written so things are checked. I've seen some horrible versions. The one I used was from one of the main forum admin people, but he no longer supports it and points people to that area. [23:29] I have manage to mess up gnomeplayer and even vlc [23:30] vlc is newly installed, after removal, but still the same problem; sound but no picture what ever I play [23:30] gnome stopped working today, and I haven't done any updates or installations since before the weekend [23:30] gnome player* === micahg_ is now known as micahg [23:34] good night [23:34] I am not doing a thing until tomorrow