[00:04] <yofel_> burner: check if the nouveau module is loaded when you try to use nvidia
[00:04] <yofel_> if yes add nomodeset to the kernel command line
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[00:56] <billybigrigger> anyone know where gnome 3.1.9 is?
[00:57] <billybigrigger> it was released almost a week ago now
[00:57]  * Pici checks under the couch cushions
[00:58] <billybigrigger> well why are we still running 3.1.5 is all i'm wondering :P
[00:58] <billybigrigger> or is ubuntu holding out for 3.2?
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[01:47] <micahg> billybigrigger: we're in beta freeze
[03:13] <Vanillalite> Hello all!
[03:14] <DBO> hey Vanillalite
[03:15] <Vanillalite> So regular Unity is weird for me now... when I log in I just see my desktop background and my top panel acts like nautilus is open... I don't get the normal top panel nor the unity menu on the left... any ideas? lol
[03:15] <DBO> Vanillalite, can I get a screenshot?
[03:16] <Vanillalite> I can try in Unity 2d now which seems to always work
[03:16] <Vanillalite> brb with a screen shot hopefully :P
[03:22] <Vanillalite> Hello all I'm back with a screenshot :P
[03:23] <Vanillalite> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bHP88h5Bmg0/Tl2oxjUstOI/AAAAAAAAAVg/cVbUf5Djags/s800/Screenshot%25252520at%252525202011-08-30%2525252023%2525253A18%2525253A25.png
[03:23] <Vanillalite> that's what I get when I log into Ubuntu with regular Unity....
[03:25] <Vanillalite> if you people want a higher res upload to see the screen let me know and I can do that
[03:26] <Vanillalite> any ideas? I don't seem to get the normal top panel or the regular unity panel... plus it acts like nautilus is open... it's just odd...
[03:30] <Vanillalite> larger screenshot.... http://www.abload.de/img/screenshot20at202011-0woj8.png
[03:34] <billybigrigger> Vanillalite, it's a know problem
[03:35] <billybigrigger> the unity plugin didn't get loaded in compiz
[03:35] <billybigrigger> click file, new tab
[03:35] <billybigrigger> then navigate to /usr/bin and open gnome-terminal
[03:36] <billybigrigger> open compizconfig by typing ccsm
[03:36] <billybigrigger> make sure the unity plugin is checked
[03:36] <Vanillalite> I tried to find it on launchpad but I'm terribad at finding my bug on launchpad lol
[03:36] <billybigrigger> after the plugin loads, you'll be left with the borked nautilus window, so in  your open terminal type sudo killall nautilus and you should be left with a normal desktop
[03:37] <billybigrigger> im going for a smoke, let me know how that works out for you
[03:37] <Vanillalite> do I have to do this each time I log in or will this be a real fix for me?
[03:40] <billybigrigger> are you fully updated?
[03:42] <billybigrigger> i see the problem still happening on the forums still, but i posted that fix i just gave you like a week ago
[03:45] <Vanillalite> Hello all again!
[03:45] <billybigrigger> Vanillalite, how did you make out
[03:46] <Vanillalite> copied your instructions to a text file and did them... worked
[03:46] <Vanillalite> I assume I have to do this each time I log in? *until a patch comes down the line*
[03:47] <billybigrigger> you quit after i asked you...
[03:47] <billybigrigger> are you fully updated?
[03:47] <Vanillalite> sorry I was in Unity 2d and quit to try your fix :P
[03:48] <Vanillalite> yeah I just updated idk less than an hour ago?
[03:48] <billybigrigger> i posted that fix on the forums about a week ago, and i haven't had it happen for awhile on MY machine, but i think it's still happening to others
[03:48] <Vanillalite> do you have a link to a bug report for it on launchpad? :P
[03:49] <billybigrigger> ill see if i can dig it up
[03:50] <billybigrigger> i meant i posted the workaround instructions on the forums, i'm sure there is a bug report around somewhere
[03:51] <Vanillalite> yeah I got that part I was just looking for a launchpad page in case I could be of any assistance
[03:56] <Vanillalite> thanks a ton btw billy! you rock for the help! :)
[04:02] <billybigrigger> feck i can't find a bug # for it anywhere on the forums...
[04:02] <DBO> Vanillalite, Im sorry, I forgot about you!
[04:03] <DBO> Vanillalite, it looks like compiz is failing to start all together :/
[04:03] <DBO> Id be looking at your drivers
[04:03] <billybigrigger> compiz is starting, just not loading the unity plugin
[04:03] <Vanillalite> no worries DBO billy says it's a known bug and had a fix for me
[04:03] <DBO> Vanillalite, what was the fix?
[04:04] <billybigrigger> workaround
[04:04] <Vanillalite> yeah more like workaround
[04:04] <DBO> what is the workaround
[04:04] <Vanillalite> load the terminal load up compiz settings and check the unity box
[04:04] <DBO> did you try unity --reset?
[04:04] <Vanillalite> then just task kill nautilus via terminal
[04:05] <DBO> fair enough
[04:05] <DBO> I wonder why your settings got screwed up
[04:05] <DBO> I'll have to poke didrocks about that...
[04:05] <billybigrigger> DBO, it's been happening to everyone at some point
[04:05] <billybigrigger> it's all over the forums
[04:05] <DBO> billybigrigger, thats crazy...
[04:05] <DBO> I've never seen it
[04:06] <Vanillalite> I'm running an ATI card with the ati fxlgr drivers if that matters at all
[04:06] <DBO> must be a packaging issue
[04:06] <billybigrigger> Vanillalite, could just been an ati issue then
[04:07] <billybigrigger> i originally posted the workaround in an fglrx thread :P
[04:07] <Vanillalite> wouldn't surprise me... I've had a bunch of regular unity problems as an ati user during this alpha
[04:07] <DBO> Vanillalite, how are things going for you on ati now
[04:07] <DBO> (if it's not clear by now, I am one of the Unity developers)
[04:08] <Vanillalite> good post big patch last week that fixed the major issue a bunch of us had with unity loading up with black bars/boxes everywhere
[04:08] <Vanillalite> sometime last week a patch fixed that and I was good until well now
[04:09] <Vanillalite> Unity 2d has been perfect tho
[04:09] <DBO> 2d doesn't have to deal with 3d drivers
[04:09] <DBO> do you use the new alt-tab at all?
[04:09] <billybigrigger> i use it every few minutes
[04:09] <billybigrigger> works fine here, always has
[04:10] <DBO> :)
[04:10] <DBO> do you like it?
[04:10] <Vanillalite> yeah alt tab works fine
[04:10] <billybigrigger> i dont like how some icons have shite resolution
[04:10] <billybigrigger> looks tacky
[04:10] <Vanillalite> wellll
[04:10] <Vanillalite> I have one small complaint
[04:11] <billybigrigger> xchat and vbox icons look like poop, they need to be cleaned up
[04:11] <Vanillalite> like when I minimize my browser I get this weird bit of ghosting
[04:11] <DBO> Vanillalite, can you describe it better?
[04:12] <DBO> billybigrigger, are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[04:12] <htorque_> Vanillalite: bug 837820
[04:12] <billybigrigger> xchat
[04:12] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 837820 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Window minimizing animation leaves decoration trail on screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837820
[04:12] <htorque_> just opened it
[04:12] <DBO> interesting...
[04:12] <billybigrigger> DBO, ...
[04:12] <billybigrigger> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bHP88h5Bmg0/Tl2oxjUstOI/AAAAAAAAAVg/cVbUf5Djags/s800/Screenshot%25252520at%252525202011-08-30%2525252023%2525253A18%2525253A25.pn
[04:12] <DBO> billybigrigger, oh the icon thing is easy to fix by hand if you want :P
[04:13] <Vanillalite> yeah that's my exact problem
[04:13] <billybigrigger> errrr ignore that....
[04:13] <billybigrigger> xchat:
[04:13] <billybigrigger>   Installed: 2.8.8-3ubuntu6
[04:13] <billybigrigger>   Candidate: 2.8.8-3ubuntu6
[04:13] <Vanillalite> when I minimize chrome it looks exactly like the screen shot in that bug report
[04:13] <DBO> too late already clicked it baby
[04:13] <bullgard6> What is the function of the program »oneconf-service«?
[04:13] <DBO> bullgard6, afaik it is related to ubuntu one
[04:13] <bullgard6> DB0 I see.
[04:15] <billybigrigger> htorque_, i definitely DON'T get that on fglrx
[04:15] <billybigrigger> minimize animations are smooth(ish) :S here :P
[04:15] <DBO> htorque_, cant see it on nvidia blob
[04:15] <Vanillalite> I get that exact deal
[04:15] <htorque_> oh, it's smooth here as well :P
[04:16] <DBO> htorque_, oh wait I see it
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[04:16] <DBO> okay so this is a damage clipping error
[04:16] <billybigrigger> what ccsm settings do you have?
[04:16] <htorque> pretty much stock
[04:17] <DBO> htorque, if you switch workspaces after triggering the bug it goes away immediately right?
[04:17] <billybigrigger> fading windows?
[04:17] <htorque> DBO: yes
[04:17] <DBO> htorque, okay we can at the very least hack around this trivially
[04:20] <Vanillalite> btw
[04:20] <Vanillalite> here is a screen shot off my personal "ghosting" "artifacting" issue
[04:20] <Vanillalite> http://www.abload.de/img/screenshot20at202011-09cg5.png
[04:22] <htorque> uh, what's that pattern behind your launcher bar?
[04:22] <billybigrigger> ya i have a solid dark grey
[04:22] <billybigrigger> no pattern here either
[04:22] <Vanillalite> I do too it just came out like that weirdly in the screen lol
[04:23] <DBO> screenshots of unity can be corrupted
[04:23] <DBO> not known why
[04:23] <DBO> something about shitty ass framebuffers
[04:23] <Vanillalite> WAIT
[04:23] <Vanillalite> nvm
[04:23] <Vanillalite> UPDATE
[04:23] <Vanillalite> it goes patterny when I get the artifacting
[04:24] <Vanillalite> goes back to solid grey as soon as the artifacts go away
[04:24] <Vanillalite> not sure what that means exactly
[04:24] <billybigrigger> i get a wierd screenshot that looks like your guy's problems but all is working here
[04:25] <Vanillalite> idk it's a small issue and not a deal breaker like my other bug so not as high on my list of what needs to be fixed :P
[04:26] <htorque> would be a deal breaker for me :P
[04:28] <Vanillalite> well considering my other bug is unity not even loading... that's a bigger issue lol
[04:30] <billybigrigger> compiz:
[04:30] <billybigrigger>   Installed: 1:0.9.5.92+bzr2791-0ubuntu1
[04:30] <billybigrigger>   Candidate: 1:0.9.5.92+bzr2791-0ubuntu1
[04:30] <billybigrigger> what version are you running
[04:31] <htorque> the same
[04:31] <Vanillalite> how can I check that?
[04:31] <htorque> type "apt-cache policy compiz" in a terminal
[04:32] <htorque> gotta go, cya
[04:32] <Vanillalite> peace out htorque!
[04:33] <Vanillalite> btw same as you billy in terms of version #
[04:34] <billybigrigger> k cause i thought that update fixed my problems
[04:34] <Vanillalite> nope still issues here sorry :(
[04:35] <Vanillalite> btw if I may ask as a non dev how freaked out are you by the quick 6 month time frame and the fact that beta is coming this week? does it seem crazy fast? lol
[04:35] <Vanillalite> I don't envy you guys and gals at all getting stuff done and fixed so fast :P
[04:36] <billybigrigger> im a non-dev, the 6mth release cycle has been going on as long as i've been using ubuntu :)
[04:37] <billybigrigger> i love it, i love bleeding edge software :)
[04:37] <billybigrigger> Join Date: October 18th, 2005
[04:37] <Vanillalite> ditto still just seems like OMG it's beta already we got so much stuff to still do lol
[04:37] <billybigrigger> ^^^ my join date on ubuntu forums, i think that was hoary/warty days :P
[04:38] <billybigrigger> ya but feature/ui freeze's are in effect, now it's bug squashing time
[04:39] <Vanillalite> never been a person to try out alphas usually I wait till beta 1 for the jump
[04:39] <billybigrigger> i usually jump in around a2/3
[04:39] <billybigrigger> i totally missed 10.04/.10 dev cycles...
[04:40] <Vanillalite> I'll be honest something about the name and the cool cat being the animal this time around made me want to jump in on the alpha as silly as that sounds lol
[04:40] <billybigrigger> err no 10.10/11.04 i missed, 10.04 was the last time i was around
[04:40] <billybigrigger> heh i think the name sucks, and honestly haven't bothered to look at the mascot
[04:40] <billybigrigger> i'm more excited for gnome3/gtk3 and oneiric+1 being an lts
[04:41] <Vanillalite> just sort of a sleep cat as the mascot :P
[04:41] <Vanillalite> sleepy
[04:46] <Vanillalite> alright all time for bed!
[04:46] <Vanillalite> thanks for all the help and I'm sure I'll be back soon :)
[04:51] <bullgard6> What is the function of the file /var/crash/_usr_share_oneconf_oneconf-service.1000.crash ?
[04:52] <billybigrigger> its a crash report
[05:34] <billybigrigger> yay, emerge of xfce has only been running for a few hours now...95/216 hah
[05:34] <billybigrigger> gentoo sucks my left ...
[05:35] <jussi> billybigrigger: wrong channel for that discussion ;)
[05:35] <billybigrigger> no just giving a pep talk to all the new +1 users to stick it out with ubuntu :P
[05:36] <billybigrigger> showing them that the grass is greener here heh
[06:25] <ssargennto> anybody running xfce instead of unity?
[06:35] <billybigrigger> maybe in a few more hours i will be on my gento vm :P
[07:20] <carli2> hi
[07:20] <carli2> i open a .deb file in software center
[07:20] <carli2> i click at "install"
[07:20] <carli2> no installation, just a warning
[07:20] <carli2> "only install this file if you trust the origin"
[07:21] <carli2> how can i install the package anyway?
[07:21] <carli2> or better:
[07:21] <zniavre> dpkg -i name_of_package.deb ?
[07:22] <carli2> how can i change the default opener for .deb files to "gksudo dpkg -i $1"?
[07:25] <carli2> zniavre: i know. but i want the default way to work, because the default way to open .deb files is used by my browser
[07:28] <zniavre> im not able to find the way to cahnge nautilus properties with deb files
[07:30] <zniavre> i got only gdebi as CLI package manager and it is not present in deb properties> open with (and seems not possible to add a path to gdebi)
[07:30] <zniavre> but gdebi is availbla in right clic menu
[07:41] <ssargennto> Is anybody else having issues with their login screen? Mine will show the regular background for about a couple seconds then it just goes to like a black background, older style icons, and the top bar is black also
[07:42] <ssargennto> I think it might be my upgrade though. Because I just loaded gnome shell for the first time and I was having some display issues there as well, like parts of the desktop looked to be missing, I could click the icons but they looked funny..
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[07:47] <Volkodav> Looks like Macbook 7.1 only gets wireless g connection in 20 Mhz range . N does not work at all in 20 or 40 hmm - will file a bug I guess
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[08:31] <ssargennto> I am having problems with gnome shell after my upgrade to 11.10 - It seems there are missing icons and such from the interface. I can click where they are but it looks like distorted colors and not a icon. Anybody else experience this?
[08:50] <ssargennto> Anybody else having troubles with gnome shell displaying correctly?
[08:55] <psalden> ssargennto: I think it's because it tries to use unity's default themes
[08:55] <psalden> ssargennto: and now I read your earlier line, you're probably talking about something else, sorry :)
[08:56] <psalden> still though, now that unity is 'in the same field', it might be related
[08:58] <ssargennto> psalden,  do you have any problems with gnome shell?
[08:59] <ssargennto> would removing gnome-shell and re-installing it help?
[09:01] <psalden> well when I run it, I notice how everything looks crappy. using gnome-tweak-tool reveals it's just trying to use ubuntu's themes, fonts, etc. Assuming the fact that it shares its settings with unity to be the cause of your problem too, I doubt reinstalling would help at all
[09:05] <bullgard6> GNOME  does not provide TeaTime. Can you recommend a substitute?
[09:06] <ssargennto> gotcha :)
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[09:17] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I need help on how to configure my keyboard to match an Apple keyboard to reactivate the alt key (for pipes, etc). I remember that there was some setting in Natty but I can't seem to find it. Any help?
[09:17] <heslam> hey guys. has anyone done any video editing on 11.10 using MLT-based editors? if so anyone getting weird hangs, terrible performance, intermittent crashes?
[09:29] <lenios__> <ssargennto> Anybody else having troubles with gnome shell displaying correctly? << same here, it was working a few days ago on another machine though
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[09:58] <Rods_Tiger> is filesharing broken for the time being in oneiric?
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[10:17] <KNUBBIG> Why does apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk not install any useable binaries but instead install openjdk-6-jdk?
[10:20] <nyuszika7h> !jre | KNUBBIG
[10:20] <ubottu> KNUBBIG: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://goo.gl/zwOip -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.
[10:20] <nyuszika7h> JDK != JRE
[10:28] <KNUBBIG> nyuszika7h: I know that
[10:28] <KNUBBIG> nyuszika7h: But I nevertheless wanted javac
[10:28] <KNUBBIG> nyuszika7h: And also java which I installed (tried to) with openjdk-7-jre
[10:29] <KNUBBIG> nyuszika7h: I downloaded both compressed binaries from oracle and relinked /etc/alternatives/java(c) manually, including /usr/bin/javac. What a pain
[10:30] <nyuszika7h> Heh
[10:31] <KNUBBIG> ?
[10:32] <heslam> has anyone had any problems with Pulse Audio, especially in relation to MLT/video editing?
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[11:12] <IdleOne> why am I seeing x86_64 3 times in the output of uname -a?
[11:14] <vega__> -m -p -i ... man uname
[11:16] <IdleOne> seems kinda redundant
[11:16] <IdleOne> thanks for the info
[11:17] <Ian_Corne> well, you choose -a
[11:17] <Ian_Corne> so it shows all
[11:17] <Ian_Corne> :p
[11:35] <Milos_SD> Hi
[11:35] <Milos_SD> I have a little problem upgradeing to Oneiric :)
[11:35] <Milos_SD> upgrade doesn't even start becouse of a lot held back packages :S
[11:37] <Milos_SD> here is the apt log: http://pastebin.com/Xq7qPqbx
[11:43] <jbicha> Milos_SD: how exactly are you trying to upgrade? and are you using a bunch of PPAs?
[11:43] <Milos_SD> I'm trying to upgdade via "update-manager -d"
[11:43] <Milos_SD> I am using a lot of PPA's :)
[11:44] <jbicha> Milos_SD: I think you'll have to upgrade manually or do a clean install
[11:45] <Milos_SD> well... I used to upgdade without problem before ( to Natty), and I was using bunch of PPA's too :)
[11:46] <jbicha> Milos_SD: the transition to GNOME3 might be complicating that, and there are limits to what the installer can do automatically
[11:47] <Milos_SD> jbicha, what did you mean when you sad to manualy upgrade?
[11:47] <jbicha> well it's a bit complicated and definitely not supported but...
[11:48] <jbicha> you can disable all your PPAs, change your sources.list to point to oneiric; apt-get update and then use Synaptic or something
[11:49] <jbicha> to upgrade everything or remove what won't upgrade, so it may take a bunch of time & effort
[11:50] <Milos_SD> jbicha, thanks...
[11:50] <Milos_SD> :)
[11:51] <Milos_SD> there are some things that are held back, and they are not from PPA :)
[11:51] <Milos_SD> libevince and libdocument
[11:51] <Milos_SD> :S
[11:52] <Milos_SD> and bunch of i386 packages :S I don't know where did I get that ... I use 64bit :S
[12:05] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:08] <jbicha> Milos_SD: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-August/000886.html
[12:12] <BluesKaj> jbicha, well, I did the command in the anounce above , but "permission denied"
[12:22] <jbicha> BluesKaj: sudo is your friend
[12:22] <BluesKaj> including sudo
[12:23] <jbicha> hmm, maybe try sudo su first then just run the command
[12:23] <jbicha> I think piped commands don't work well with sudo
[12:24] <Pici> Thats what tee is for.
[12:24] <Pici> echo "foo" | sudo tee -a /etc/bar
[12:25] <BluesKaj> jbicha, sudo su did the trick...I think
[13:09]  * hrw got kicked from #ubuntu+3 so will ask here
[13:10] <hrw> started unity desktop for first time in 11.10 cycle - where it can be configured? cause it looks not-acceptable for me (fonts, colours, decorations)
[13:11] <Ian_Corne> wtf is ubuntu+3 :p
[13:12] <hrw> Ian_Corne: just a name ;)
[13:12] <hrw> Ian_Corne: as there are insane amount of #ubuntu* channels I decided to check +3 one
[13:16] <hrw> is it normal that playing with ccsm makes unity die?
[13:16] <hrw> where unity={top+left panels}
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> yes
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> well
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> it happens to me too
[13:19] <Ian_Corne> so it's "normal"
[13:19] <hrw> its 3rd time when I try unity (previous was 11.04 alpha/beta) and still finds it too hard to setup
[13:20] <IdleOne> because there really isn't anything to setup
[13:21] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/~hrw/shots/unity1.png is how it looks
[13:21] <hrw> IdleOne: ugly window decoration from no idea where, icons on desktop which I want to hide
[13:21] <hrw> icons of two pernamently mounted devices in launcher
[13:22] <IdleOne> right click, remove from launcher
[13:22] <hrw> 3 options: "unmount, open, keep in launcher (not enabled)"
[13:23] <hrw> switching 'keep in launcher' (I hope it is this 'zachowaj w obszarze uruchamiania') does not change anything
[13:26] <Trewas> hrw: gnome-tweak-tool can at least change fonts and gtk theme, I don't know if window decorations are configurable via any GUI now
[13:27] <hrw> (gnome-tweak-tool:14815): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to underallocate GtkComboBox's child GtkCellView 0x2226d70. Allocation is 1x15, but minimum required size is 44x21.
[13:27] <hrw> thats norm too?
[13:28] <IdleOne> in alpha/beta everything is "normal"
[13:28] <hrw> just asking
[13:29] <IdleOne> just answering :)
[13:30] <IdleOne> rahter commenting
[13:30] <IdleOne> rather*
[13:32] <Jcook_5xData> I have a few problem one is Plymouth does not start all I get is text and lightdm is all pink like it not pull css file.
[13:33] <Jcook_5xData> I have run command dpkg-reconfigure Plymouth and reboot but it did not help
[13:33] <charlie-tca> hm, I get blue in 64bit and pink in 32bit lightdm backgrounds
[13:36] <Jcook_5xData> this is a reinstall the first time it had a cool ubuntu background and styled buttons and menu. maybe it was and update that broke it
[13:37] <Jcook_5xData> I guess it no big deal. it is alpha/beta after all
[13:39] <Jcook_5xData> at lest they fix the compiz problem with wine. That why I could not use the first release
[13:39] <Jcook_5xData> starcraft 2 scrolling is smooth :)
[13:41] <Jcook_5xData> now if we could get Blizzard to support Opengl in Starcraft 2 we would be all set :D
[13:44] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/~hrw/shots/unity2d-1.png - someone knows why I got this box on right?
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[13:45] <nyuszika7h> hrw: ^^
[13:45] <hrw> nyuszika7h: I know, got the same
[13:51] <hrw> uf. now I can uninstall
[14:02] <psalden> btw am I the only one who's not got working 'media apps', 'internet apps' etc buttons?
[14:11] <drussell> psalden: you're not the only one... I'm assuming it's everyone
[14:11] <drussell> I had a complete crash about half an hour ago (disconnecting an external monitor)
[14:12] <drussell> and now my unity launcher bar won't autohide
[14:12] <drussell> *sigh*
[14:12] <drussell> btw multi screen seems to be very flaky on 11.10 generally
[14:13] <drussell> connecting and disconnecting external screens on this laptop is a sure way to crash xorg
[14:16] <patr|ck> can the Alpha 3 be downloaded already?
[14:17] <drussell> and running ubuntu-bug and selecting "xorg bug" puts a black square on the screen and a broken/frozen gtk window that needs to be forced to quit
[14:17] <yellabs-r2> hello there
[14:17] <drussell> patr|ck: it would seem so
[14:20] <yellabs-r2> is there an list somewhere about what video cards are supported for the new oneric ? unity 3D, and gnome 3 , it seems that intel is not well supported any more, will this change in future releases , i have got product: 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller
[14:21] <yellabs-r2> used to work great on the older ubuntus
[14:35] <hrw> yellabs-r2: 945 should be supported. too many netbooks with it
[14:35] <yellabs-r2> true
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> i am running it on an dell gx620, got several machines, the third seems to boot to desktop and 3D, strange
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> maybe an bois setting somehow, although unity launcher is missing ..
[14:36] <yellabs-r2> on the left , the menu
[14:36] <yellabs-r2>  gone
[14:36] <hrw> unity... I just published blog post with my opinion about it
[14:38] <yellabs-r2> alt+F2 does not work..
[14:38] <yellabs-r2> so i cant get to an run command for terminal.. tips ?
[14:39] <yellabs-r2> can i restart unity on the other terminal ?
[14:39] <yellabs-r2> replace --unity ?
[14:39] <hrw> yellabs-r2: tried Ctrl-Alt-t?
[14:39] <yellabs-r2> not yet
[14:40] <yellabs-r2> now i did
[14:40] <yellabs-r2> but no terminal
[14:40] <yellabs-r2> maybe it sees the wrong keyboard, but i cant tell
[14:41] <yellabs-r2> going for an reboot, might help ..
[14:42] <yellabs-r2> if not i might reinstall
[14:43] <yellabs-r2> to make sure nothing went wrong
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[15:36] <Milos_SD> Hi... I just did clean install od 11.10. Where can I change fonts? :S
[15:49] <Milos_SD> how can I change fonts?
[15:52] <hrw> Milos_SD: gnome-tweak-tool may help you. or wait for gnome 3.50 in 2015
[15:54] <Milos_SD> hrw, gnome-tweak-tool helped, thanks :)
[15:54] <Milos_SD> now, just to find out how to install skype :D
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[16:26] <Milos_SD> does anyone else have problem with network-manager not showing in Unity panel?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Kwin doesn't remember windows settings -size and placement set in /advanced>special windows settings or special application settings
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[17:15] <heslam> hey guys. is anti-aliased window corners working for any of you, or do I need to install that compiz testing ppa?
[17:17] <validuntilmonday> hi there
[17:18] <Arnold> Hello.
[18:41] <Ian_Corne> empathy is a crashaholic
[19:05] <h00k> Is there a known self-signed google-talk error with Empathy? (Located in US, not Iran)
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> me too h00k
[19:07] <Ian_Corne> and facebook too
[19:07] <h00k> Ian_Corne: I don't know if it's a CA thing, or with Empathy and Oneiric
[19:07] <h00k> I don't use FB chat, just Google-talk
[19:08] <Ian_Corne> they're both the same protocol
[19:08] <h00k> xmpp
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Wow, Kwin is really messed up here...anyone else ?
[20:24] <len> Since upgrading to Kubuntu Oneiric, my sound always starts muted.  I can unmute it, and it works fine, but every time I reboot it starts back muted again..  What do I need to do to correct this behavior?
[20:33] <BluesKaj> len, open alsamixer and disable auto mute
[20:37] <len> BluesKaj, Where is that option?
[20:39] <BUGabundo> evening !
[20:39] <charlie-tca> Hello, BUGabundo
[20:39] <BUGabundo> meh
[20:40] <BluesKaj> len in alsamixer use the f5 kay to get all ctrls
[20:40] <BluesKaj> key
[20:41] <charlie-tca> Yeah, didn't think it would be "good evening" yet
[20:42] <BluesKaj> my kwin settings won't hold ...the apps are opening  in upper left like small dialogs ...setting them in special windows and special apps advanced doesn't hold the settings I choose
[20:48] <BluesKaj> len or you set the ctrls in alsamixer then save them withe command , alsactl store
[20:48] <len> BluesKaj,  When I press F5  I get a bunch more bands I can see if I scroll right, but it all has to mics and the digital output I'm not using.
[20:49] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, did you try the updated gmailchecker yet?
[20:49] <BUGabundo> no
[20:49] <BUGabundo> not using it
[20:49] <len> BluesKaj,  OK, so if I unmute and do the alsactl store, it should preserve that for next startup?
[20:49] <bjsnider> it's a recent post at webupd8
[20:50] <BluesKaj> len , in the terminal , alsactl store
[20:50] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: I remember a old one
[20:50] <BluesKaj> yes . len  it should
[20:51] <len> OK, I'll do that and reboot to see what happens.  Do I sudo that, or does it save the settings on a per user basis?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> len , I think it's global
[20:53] <billybigrigger> anyone here using the ricotz ppa and updated to gnome 3.1.9 yet?
[20:55] <len> Hmm,  It seems to want it both  ways.  If I do it as a user (no sudo) if complains I don't have permission, but as if I do it as a supervisor, it complains that the user home dir it not it's own
[20:57] <billybigrigger> is your user part of the audio group maybe?
[20:57] <billybigrigger> should be, and i wouldn't see why you wouldn't be
[23:13] <albech> just installed the latest snapshot on a spare partition, but it appears that grub is not updated correctly.
[23:14] <urlin2u> albech, did you do the something else choice where wa grub put?
[23:14] <urlin2u> was
[23:14] <albech> urlin2u, negative
[23:15] <urlin2u> albech, where was grub put then?
[23:15] <urlin2u> albech, that snapshot has grub control now,
[23:16] <albech> i believe it was placed on sda
[23:16] <jtaylor> does another update-grub2 help?
[23:17] <urlin2u> albech, right that means that the snapshot has grub contri=ol do you want it in another install?
[23:17] <albech> urlin2u, not sure what you mean..
[23:18] <albech> urlin2u, looks like the update-grub2 found it
[23:18] <urlin2u> albech, when you install grub to the sda from a install it makes that grub have the update control, would you kike it in another.
[23:19] <albech> urlin2u, no having in on sda is fine
[23:19] <urlin2u> I can have many grub2 distros which ever one I want to do the update I install grub from it.
[23:19] <urlin2u> to the sda
[23:20] <albech> urlin2u, let me try a reboot rq to see if it boots now that update-grub2 found it
[23:20] <albech> brb
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