| darkmatter | 'ello coz_ o/ | 21:24 |
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| coz_ | darkmatter, hey guys sorry for dealy | 21:49 |
| coz_ | delay | 21:49 |
| darkmatter | coz_: np. just collecting files from aminet. gonna install amiga in emu today. trying 3.9, wanna be prepared. it takes about 4x longer than 3.1. | 21:50 |
| coz_ | yikes | 21:50 |
| darkmatter | coz_: gonna set up a new user with the OS as the shell. user name "Flashback" with a boingball for an avatar :D | 21:52 |
| coz_ | :) | 21:52 |
| * darkmatter misses the classics. and running a full OS as a session is easier than emulating individual roms | 21:54 | |
| coz_ | darkmatter, getting naustalgic >? | 21:54 |
| darkmatter | since I gets all the drivers and stuff, so only need one config | 21:54 |
| darkmatter | coz_: a bit :P | 21:54 |
| coz_ | :) | 21:54 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, I think I understand,, it's from getting old I think :) | 21:55 |
| darkmatter | coz_: yes, it is. that plus, some of the art programs from the amiga _still_ don't have challengers :( | 21:57 |
| coz_ | oh! | 21:57 |
| darkmatter | so ro use them. need amiga emulation. that or have 15 dozen individual configs to swap and troubleshoot in the emu if running the roms without workbench | 21:58 |
| darkmatter | easier to just emulate the whole darn OS | 21:58 |
| darkmatter | coz_: plus, I always loved the amiga | 21:58 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, too long ago for me for sure,, I barely remember original mac os and win 95 :) | 21:59 |
| darkmatter | coz_: aside from unix boxes, I grew up on PETs and SuprPETs ---> | 22:00 |
| darkmatter | so was a commodore child :P | 22:00 |
| darkmatter | unix teenie' | 22:00 |
| coz_ | ah ok :) understandable then | 22:01 |
| darkmatter | I remember when the old PET was state of the art, shiny and new. now we have calculators with 12x the horsepower. lol | 22:01 |
| coz_ | :) yeah it is a bit scary when y ou think back especially pricing | 22:04 |
| darkmatter | coz_: floppies were an extra! :D | 22:05 |
| coz_ | :) | 22:05 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, and now they nearly dont exist :) | 22:05 |
| darkmatter | I know :( | 22:05 |
| coz_ | I still have windows 3.1 or 3.2 on floppies never used | 22:06 |
| coz_ | but i no longe have a floppy drive | 22:06 |
| darkmatter | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Commodore_4032.jpg <-- I remember using those | 22:09 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, yikes | 22:14 |
| coz_ | they look cook though :) | 22:14 |
| coz_ | cool | 22:15 |
| coz_ | damn fingers and new keyboard | 22:15 |
| darkmatter | coz_: but my nostalgia is practical too. remember many, many, many moons ago about my project? a modern, not retro, full bling enviro that takes cues from amiga and beos (in terms od "epic workflow get stuff done without banging head" methodology)? | 22:20 |
| coz_ | yep :) | 22:20 |
| darkmatter | coz_: "can't remember what you lied about it if you don't run it" | 22:20 |
| darkmatter | liked* | 22:20 |
| coz_ | yeah I dont remember much ,, I wasnt into computers until later ,, mostly work and not enough money,,, I can remember friends w ho purchased a "word processor" for many hundreds of dollars and were are snotty about it,,, I wasnt impressed,,, I thought a typewroter was more efficient back then :) | 22:22 |
| darkmatter | coz_: not that modern environments are bad, but they sacrifice workflow a bit, imo | 22:22 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, yeah I understand ,, as always,, what you mean,,, lately I have gotten tired of the new interfaces,, and somewhat disalussioned with linux in general because of them | 22:23 |
| darkmatter | coz_: I never owned the old ones, but as resident techy as a kid (new more than the actual hobbiests that taught me), had special priledges | 22:23 |
| coz_ | :) | 22:23 |
| * darkmatter had access to key for puter lab :D | 22:24 | |
| coz_ | excellent :) | 22:24 |
| darkmatter | coz_: was an honor, considering how much the hardware was worth in the earlier 80's | 22:24 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, that's for sure :) I remember some of the prices,, way out of my range then | 22:25 |
| darkmatter | other kids were outside playing, I was in lab programming xD | 22:25 |
| coz_ | :) | 22:25 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, I unfortuantely was working,, no childhood :) | 22:26 |
| darkmatter | coz_: I _do_ want some oldies now though. if just for museum purposes. | 22:26 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, the oldest computer I have here is the apple SE/30 | 22:26 |
| darkmatter | like, next cube, bebox, amigas... just need to find crap in my price range | 22:27 |
| darkmatter | coz_: I liked the appleII/GS | 22:27 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, beboxes seem hard to find | 22:27 |
| darkmatter | was a nice machine in its day | 22:27 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, my nephew has an actual bebox but he wont part with it | 22:27 |
| darkmatter | ooooh... blackmail! | 22:28 |
| coz_ | :) | 22:29 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, he also has the corporate edition of BeOS 5 with java on it | 22:29 |
| darkmatter | oooh | 22:30 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, but have I been alowed to borrow it? no of course not,, damn relatives | 22:31 |
| darkmatter | hehe | 22:31 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, I have asked him to let me install it on my one be machine,, for oh maybe 8 years now | 22:31 |
| * darkmatter is munching on strawberries,raspberry, black ad blueberries | 22:32 | |
| coz_ | yummmm | 22:32 |
| darkmatter | coz_: $5 for half a kilo :/ | 22:32 |
| coz_ | yikes everything is geting expensive:( | 22:33 |
| darkmatter | uless it's frozen. you need an arm and a leg for anything fresh | 22:34 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, I know,, it's getting bad everywhere except I hear in Brazil | 22:34 |
| darkmatter | 2 - 3 grade a chicken breasts are close to $20 fresh. I remember a few years ago when a tray FULL was about $8 | 22:35 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, $20? where are you shopping? oh!!! "fresh" know I get it | 22:36 |
| darkmatter | coz_: and the price hikes are nonsense, imo, since half the product goes to waste. I mean, I' pretty sure the first world throws away half of what it produces before it ever reaches the consumer | 22:36 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, probably,, there is waist in harvesting,, shipping,, and server so maybe 1/3 is lost to waiste | 22:37 |
| darkmatter | coz_: I worded in food instustry a bit (like subway and such), had friend in bakerys and the like. we used to compare the experience in regards to waste. sad really just how much get tossed | 22:40 |
| darkmatter | especially baked goods | 22:41 |
| darkmatter | day old and hasn't been purchased? dumpster | 22:41 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, absolutely and we pay for that at some point | 22:41 |
| darkmatter | coz_: one friend worked at robins donuts when I used to volunteer with urban youth when in uni. she told he "go out back around 2:00am, and you'll have plenty for the center" (paraphrasing). sure enough, 2 - 3 flour sacks full of pastries | 22:43 |
| darkmatter | I mean, seriously | 22:43 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, that many? | 22:44 |
| coz_ | yikes | 22:44 |
| coz_ | US is piggy | 22:44 |
| darkmatter | at the end of the day day olds get tossed | 22:44 |
| darkmatter | canada piggy too. I mean. it's a "city" give that stuff to a shelter or foodbank or soup kitchen or someting | 22:45 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, well they should sell them at half price | 22:45 |
| darkmatter | there's tons of volunteer sevices that can benifit from that | 22:45 |
| coz_ | that's for sure,,, people are greedy and selfish | 22:46 |
| darkmatter | coz_: btw. here's a site you may appreciate http://www.pixeljoint.com/ | 23:38 |
| coz_ | looking | 23:38 |
| darkmatter | http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/17123.htm | 23:39 |
| darkmatter | http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/13455.htm | 23:39 |
| darkmatter | two nice examples. some fine, and oldschool pixel painting | 23:40 |
| coz_ | yeah not tooo bad,,, interesting work,,,,boy,, you are getting nostalgic :) | 23:40 |
| darkmatter | http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/59600.htm | 23:41 |
| darkmatter | coz_: well.. the pixel art was for something else. I was thinking of how to make a game (as in modern/3d) have atmosphere. as in, feel less smooth an unimpressive visually. have moe artistic impressionistic/surreal "this game is like a living painting" feel. so went through old links a few days ago. stumbled on this site for the first time in years | 23:43 |
| coz_ | darkmatter, there is a neat game named world of goo that is not much like any other with graphics | 23:44 |
| coz_ | put out by 2D boy | 23:45 |
| darkmatter | coz_: yes. goo is gooey :D | 23:45 |
| coz_ | :) | 23:45 |
| darkmatter | machinarium too. | 23:46 |
| coz_ | I have both,,, machinarium is reminicent of riven | 23:46 |
| coz_ | ok I am really tired ,, I am going to bed early ,, talk later darkmatter | 23:48 |
| darkmatter | but 2D. I'm talking full 3D polygonal nommies. like. imagine fully rendered 3D gfx. animated skies ala van gogh. 2d nebulous cloud overlays, etc. really impressionistic and stylized lanscapes. maybe a bit of watercolor looking | 23:48 |
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