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cjwatsonhi, sorry I couldn't get to the mumble meeting, unity had gone into ridiculous go-slow mode and it was insanely hard to start any new applications15:03
slangasek#startmeeting15:04
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Aug 31 15:04:21 2011 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.15:04
meetingologyAvailable commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired15:04
slangasekwow, that's a lot more commands than before15:04
stgraberthat list got a lot bigger :)15:04
slangasekdo they only work with '#' now?15:04
AlanBellthey work with both15:05
slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round15:05
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slangasekcool15:05
barrykind of nice not to have to type ALLCAPS any more15:05
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)15:05
slangasekmvo stgraber bdmurray ev slangasek cjwatson barry jhunt doko15:05
slangasekmvo's on vacation this week15:05
slangasekstgraber:15:05
stgraber- Last week15:05
stgraber - Did some more IPv6 testing for cyphermox and talked about the proper implementation of DUID handling in Network Manager15:05
stgraber - Continued work to automate IPv6 testing. Got all the configuration files automatically generated, just need to script the VMs now.15:05
AlanBellhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology is a documentation page I wrote yesterday15:05
stgraber - Bunch of Edubuntu uploads, replacing the old LTSP live by a new one that works. Tweaked unity-greeter and unity, changed the wallpaper, ...15:05
stgraber - Started poking at Ubiquity, fixing a few bugs.15:05
stgraber- This week15:05
stgraber - Some more discussion with cyphermox on DHCPv6, I think we now have the final implementation of what we want in NM. Still needs testing though.15:05
stgraber - Mostly worked on Ubiquity, trying to get the bug list a bit shorter (pretty difficult considering the number of new bugs we get every hour...)15:05
stgraber - Started looking at bug 575469 and bug 234409 in friendly-recovery. Got it moved to /lib here, just need to patch the scripts and do some testing.15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 575469 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu Oneiric) "recovery mode mounts filesystems read-write rather than read-only" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57546915:05
stgraber - ISO testing and Edubuntu beta1 release.15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 234409 in friendly-recovery (Ubuntu) "friendly-recovery violates the Linux Filesystem Hierarchy Standard" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23440915:05
stgraber- Next week15:05
stgraber - Monday is public holiday in Canada (Labour day)15:05
stgraber - Get friendly-recovery reviewed and uploaded15:06
stgraber - Finish to automate IPv6 testing and get that running daily.15:06
stgraber - Hopefully some time for WebLive work, still need to get an Oneiric server working (only have Natty at the moment)15:06
stgraber - Continue poking at TPM.15:06
stgraber(done)15:06
* stgraber loves his new irssi script/plugin, copy/paste always work now :)15:06
bdmurraylp_stockereplies.user.js to work with new Launchpad forms15:06
bdmurrayUploaded new version of firefox-lp-improvements15:06
bdmurrayBug triage of iso-testing bug reports15:06
bdmurrayubiquity merge proposal modifying how bugs are tagged oem-config15:06
bdmurrayapport merge proposal preventing bug reports due to hardware error on /, /usr or /var devices15:06
bdmurrayapport merge proposal creating a DuplicateSignature for ubiquity bug reports and redirecting some bugs to grub-install15:06
bdmurrayupdated update-manager apport source package hook to ask whether or not it is a dist-upgrade and include files in /var/log/dist-upgrade15:06
bdmurraywrote up test case for SRU for bug 81472715:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 814727 in apport (Ubuntu Natty) "Do not report package installation failures that contain a segmentation fault" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81472715:06
bdmurray[done]15:07
ev- Short week; public holiday on Monday15:07
ev- Fixing bugs in ubiquity and expanding the test coverage along the way.15:07
ev- Currently fighting GtkIconView which in GTK3 has decided to completely ignore the length of text when determining a width and goes entirely on the size of the (in our case nonexistent) icon.15:07
ev- Travelling to SF for Plumbers this Friday then on holiday for the first half of the week.15:07
ev(done)15:07
slangasek* FTBFS fixes (gnuradio, php5; passed the buck on php5 after it still FTBFS)15:09
slangasek* follow-through on ia32-libs/wine15:09
slangasek * now tested with all the proprietary 32-bit apps I can find15:09
slangasek{done}15:09
slangasek* fakeroot sync to fix a regression when using Xvfb at build-time15:09
slangasek* on vacation grinding gears in a manual transmission rental car in France next week15:09
cjwatsonShort week (bank holiday).15:10
cjwatsonOngoing NBS/FTBFS fun.15:10
cjwatsonSeveral ubiquity test fixes.15:10
cjwatsonWorking on getting new-style Chinese edition CD images autobuilt.15:10
cjwatsonRoving consultancy on bugs discovered during beta-1 preparation.15:10
cjwatsonInitial work on bug 420080 (getting partman-crypto to allow reusing existing encrypted volumes).15:10
cjwatsonPrepared a plausible-looking fix for bug 774089 (nasty misinstallation on some Macs); sent private mail asking for testing.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420080 in partman-crypto (Ubuntu) "Configure encrypted volumes destroys existing data" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42008015:10
cjwatsonSome UEFI testing.  Found a fatal bug in the kernel configuration; now fixed, have partially retested but not completely as yet.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 774089 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Booting fails 3 times, works every fourth time after new install of Natty Narwhal amd64 on Macbook Pro" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77408915:10
cjwatsonFixed IPv4/IPv6 dual-stack breakage during installation (queued for post-beta-1).  Slightly worried that nobody seems to have noticed this before me - stgraber, is this a gap in our testing?15:10
cjwatsonFixed kexec-tools bug 401405 (fails to install in chroots).15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 401405 in kexec-tools (Ubuntu) "kexec-tools should not exit when there is no /boot/grub" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40140515:10
cjwatsonFinally got LP dpkg-xz-support branch landed, and announced it.  multiarch-translations branch is blocked on bug 809123.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 809123 in Launchpad itself "we cannot deploy DB schema changes live" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80912315:10
cjwatsondone15:10
barrylast week: short week due to vacation; this week: bug 832756 uploaded; currently working on bug 832864 and bug 831739.  next week: monday is usa holiday (labor day, sans extra 'u'). done.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832756 in python-scipy (Ubuntu Oneiric) "python-scipy version 0.9.0+dfsg1-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83275615:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832864 in pyside (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyside version 1.0.4-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83286415:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 831739 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "package python3 3.2-3 [modified: usr/share/doc/python3/changelog.Debian.gz] failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 134" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83173915:10
stgrabercjwatson: what was the specific case failing with dual-stack in d-i?15:11
slangasekev: does GtkIconView look like it needs a change in gtk3?15:11
cjwatsonstgraber: it didn't work at all, because dhclient-script was flushing the IPv6 addresses when it got an IPv4 address15:12
evslangasek: I don't follow what you're asking, but I've just fixed the issue in a roundabout fashion.  Just trying to find a way of probing whether the text is wrapping in the individual cells so I can construct a proper test case for it.15:12
evslangasek: http://paste.ubuntu.com/678954/15:12
cjwatsonwhich was because I sent the bug report to Debian fixing that but forgot to actually upload it to Ubuntu *blush*15:12
stgrabercjwatson: ah right, well, we didn't test dhclient before in d-i. All the tests at the sprint were with wide-dhcp.15:13
cjwatsonstgraber: dhclient is still used for IPv415:13
cjwatsonwide-dhcp is just for IPv615:13
cjwatsonthis is the exact setup we tested at the sprint15:13
stgraberah, right, weird we didn't notice then...15:13
cjwatsonwe did15:13
cjwatsonas I said, I forgot to upload one of the pieces of this to Ubuntu15:13
slangasekev: meaning, if this is a regression vs. GTK+2.0, should we be trying to get it fixed in gtk itself and is that feasible for oneiric15:14
evslangasek: we're abusing GtkIconView here15:14
slangasekok15:14
cjwatsonby testing I meant testing of actual Ubuntu images rather than the test ones we put together15:14
evnormal people would have an icon visible15:14
evwe're just using it to lay out a few bits of text15:14
* slangasek nods15:14
evplus I'd sooner say, lets have a consistent language page (between ubiquity and oem-config) before I fought GTK+ upstream to accept patches for this15:15
cjwatsonyeah, that page in oem-config is horrible15:15
evindeed15:15
stgrabercjwatson: right, I've currently been focusing on the NetworkManager implementation, only started automating IPv6 testing for d-i and post-install last week. Should have that ready and running daily next week.15:15
cjwatsonstgraber: ah, right - yep, sounds good.  run beta-1 through it and it should fail :-)15:16
stgrabercjwatson: will do :)15:16
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs15:17
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slangasekbdmurray: are there any bugs in oneiric? :)15:17
bdmurrayslangasek: a couple of have come to my attention recently15:17
bdmurraymterry brought up bug 407862 the other day15:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 407862 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "Messages not being sent to system logs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40786215:18
bdmurrayit could use some further investigation15:18
slangasekany volunteers to look into that?15:19
dokolightning round already finished?15:20
slangasekoh phooey, did I cut you off?15:20
slangasek[TOPIC] lightning round15:20
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slangaseksorry, I thought you'd already gone15:20
slangasekdoko:15:20
doko- OpenJDK-[67] multiarch installations15:21
doko- gcc-4.4/gcj-4.4/gnat-4.4 multiarch patch update15:21
doko- Test rebuild finished this weekend.15:21
doko- Filed remaining bug reports for build failures15:21
doko- Walked through all dep-wait packages, resolved a lot, and filed reports for the others.15:21
doko- Synced/fixed ~80 packages last week.15:21
doko- ARM test rebuild finished this Monday.15:21
doko--15:21
slangasekare there bugs filed/tagged for the arm-specific failures?15:21
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dokono, asked the arm guys to do that15:22
dokorsalveti, janimo15:23
slangasekok15:23
slangasek[TOPIC] Bugs15:23
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slangasekback to bug #407862 - any takers?15:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 407862 in rsyslog (Ubuntu) "Messages not being sent to system logs" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40786215:24
barryslangasek: i can look into it, as i get tired of/blocked on bug 83286415:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832864 in pyside (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyside version 1.0.4-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83286415:24
slangasekbarry: thanks15:24
bdmurrayiso testing is on going but bug 837681 kind of jumped out at me15:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 837681 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Automatic partitioning corrupts GUID partition table (GPT)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83768115:25
bdmurrayand then there is bug 837287 and I'm not quite certain where that one belongs15:26
cjwatsonyeah, that was in my lightning round report15:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 837287 in casper (Ubuntu Oneiric) "live cd panel / top menu is cropped" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83728715:26
cjwatson(837681 - I'm working on it)15:26
cjwatsonoh, wait, it wasn't, sorry.  it should have been.15:26
bdmurraycjwatson: oops, sorry I missed it15:26
cjwatsonno, my bad15:26
stgraberbdmurray: 15:11 < ev> right, 829987 is fixed (it was just the wrong function prototype for GTK3 - passing the data argument is now required)15:27
stgraberbdmurray: oops, broken copy/paste ...15:27
stgraberbdmurray: IRC being super slow at the moment... sorry for that ;)15:28
slangasek837287> strange.  Can anyone else reproduce this?15:28
bdmurrayslangasek: I did it was very narrow but it was clickable too15:29
slangasekok15:29
slangasekreproduced on similar or different video hardware?15:29
slangaseksubmitter was doing it in virtualbox15:29
bdmurrayslangasek: on a kvm virtual machine15:29
* slangasek nods15:30
slangasekmaybe an issue with the 2d fallback?15:30
slangasekcjwatson, ev, stgraber: does that sound like a place to start with this bug?15:30
slangasekor is it more likely to be ubiquity itself?15:30
cjwatsonthe 2D fallback is totally broken for me in kvm right now, so hard to tell15:31
cjwatson(there are bugs on the iso.qa report that look relevant, so I haven't re-reported as yet)15:31
slangasekah, hmm15:31
evthe panel getting cropped is probably due to the indicator path being wrong15:31
evthanks to an ABI bump again15:32
evMario fixed that in trunk15:32
slangasekok - ubiquity then?15:32
cjwatsonin fact that fix has been uploaded hasn't it?15:32
cjwatsonI agree that's likely ubiquity not casper, in any event15:32
slangasekpoked the bug15:34
slangasekbdmurray: anything else?15:34
bdmurrayslangasek: that's it for today15:34
slangasekok, what's with launchpad now removing milestones by default every time I change the assigned package? :/15:34
slangasekanyone else have any bugs they're concerned about and would like to bring up?15:36
slangasekwrt beta in particular - though it's probably too late to get any fixes in for beta1 now unless it's omgkittens15:36
* ev has to run off and help Christian with Unity/nvidia/compiz issues, back in a tick15:36
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:38
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slangasekanything else?15:38
cjwatsonno such bugs that we can do anything about.  bug 813365 (I think) is giving me constant grief and making it difficult to be productive.15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 813365 in unity "compiz leaks memory, becomes sluggish and unusable after using it for few hours" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81336515:38
bdmurrayI'm taking a long weekend starting tomorrow afternoon and returning Tuesday15:38
cjwatsonwhen you try to switch workspaces and your entire desktop sometimes randomly hangs for 10+ seconds, it's pretty bad15:39
slangasekheh, ouch15:39
cjwatson(workaround: kill compiz and then rearrange all my windows back the way I want them ...)15:39
barryouch15:40
* ev back15:42
slangasekev: bringing some good news to share in our AOB? :)15:42
evhah, I bring hate for compiz15:42
slangasekwell, that doesn't sound like good news :)15:45
cjwatsonsame as my hate, or new hate?15:45
evit might be the same hate as you15:47
evhe's been having trouble all day15:47
evsince upgrading to oneiric15:47
evunity 3D hangs on launch with nvidia 173, it's exceedingly slow with 96, and the free driver doesn't work work with unity 2d (no textures for windows)15:48
evwith 96 and unity 3d his system becomes largely unusable after a few minutes15:49
evdx pointed him at pitti, I think15:49
evmadness15:49
slangasek2d + textures - I'm confused15:49
slangasekwhat textures are expected with unity 2d?15:50
evtextures is the wrong word15:50
evwindows were invisible15:50
slangasekheh15:50
slangasekwill Christian raise a bug on the nvidia drivers?15:51
slangasekanyway, I suppose we can take that back to #-devel :)15:53
slangasek#endmeeting15:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Aug 31 15:53:40 2011 UTC.15:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-31-15.04.moin.txt15:53
slangasekthanks, all!15:53
stgraberthanks15:54
evthanks15:54
evslangasek: well, it may be a compiz issue15:54
evI mean, this is a piece of software largely written by 14 year olds. As much as nvidia is a black box, the holes in compiz are quite apparent.15:55
AlanBellslangasek: shout if you have any issues with the minutes15:55
evman, I am turning into quite the curmudgeon in my old age15:55
AlanBellI know there are bugs in the output15:55
slangasekev: heh15:56
slangasekAlanBell: looks good from here, thanks :)15:56
AlanBellone top tip, do #startmeeting <meetingname>15:57
AlanBellso #startmeeting desktop team or whatever15:58
pedro_Hello all17:00
pedro_#startmeeting17:00
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Aug 31 17:00:30 2011 UTC.  The chair is pedro_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.17:00
meetingologyAvailable commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired17:00
pedro_Welcome to the QA Weekly Meeting, as always the Agenda is available at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings17:00
pedro_first item:17:00
Ursinhao/17:01
pedro_[TOPIC] Previous Actions (all)17:01
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pedro_any action item from previous meeting?17:01
pedro_[TOPIC] Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology is the new Mootbot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot17:02
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pedro_odd bot :-P17:02
pedro_#topic Previous Actions (all)17:02
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pedro_what?17:02
pedro_whatever, ok no one raised any items from previous meeting17:02
pedro_#topic Community Efforts/Testing17:03
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pedro_jibel, hggdh ?17:03
* pedro_ needs to learn how to use the bot17:03
jibelHi o/17:03
hggdh~รด~17:03
jibelWe are currently testing Oneiric Beta 117:04
jibelFor this milestone there is a new DVD image to test.17:04
jibelit's a 1.5GB image17:05
jibellike a desktop image + langpacks + additional software that fit on a 4GB USB17:05
jibelOn the testing side, Ubuntu still need some testing.17:06
jibelMajor issue has been found on EFI systems and filesystems > 2TB17:06
jibeland also migration assistant is broken on current desktop image.17:07
jibelOther important issues have been fixed but are not blocking installation and will be available on 1rst update after install.17:07
jibelOn the derivative side17:07
jibelKubuntu received little testing and really need your help: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all17:09
ScottKYes.  Please.17:09
ScottKParticularly on amd64.17:09
jibelhggdh, a word on server ?17:09
jibelthat's all from me then17:11
jibel..17:11
pedro_thanks jibel17:11
pedro_any comments, questions ?17:11
hggdhserver is doing good -- we have almost all tests done17:12
gemaand passing?17:12
hggdhbut I would like help on the virtual on JeOS on ESX and the iSCSI tests17:12
hggdhyes, we are passing :-)17:13
hggdh..17:13
charlie-tcao/17:13
pedro_charlie-tca, please go ahead17:13
charlie-tcaubuntustudio would also appreciate some help getting images tested17:14
charlie-tcaThey are a lacking a bit when it comes to enough people to do things17:14
charlie-tca..17:14
pedro_awesome, thanks charlie-tca hggdh17:15
pedro_[TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing17:15
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patrickmwno update from me17:18
pedro_ok17:18
AlanBellpedro_: happy to go through the bot after your meeting17:18
pedro_[TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status17:19
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pedro_AlanBell, ok thanks ;-)17:19
pedro_bdmurray, Ursinha anything to share?17:19
bdmurraypedro_: as you noticed I fixed firefox-lp-improvements and the stock replies this week17:19
pedro_ooh yes that gave me a big smile today morning ;-), thanks bdmurray17:20
Ursinhapedro_: I've been working on converting existing scripts to lpltk, so I can create desktop team triage bugs report in an acceptable time!17:20
bdmurrayI've also an apport merge proposal blocking bug reporting when there are errors on the device hold the /, /usr/ and /var partitions17:20
* pedro_ tired of copy & paste things from w.u.c/b/responses17:20
bdmurrayand an upload of ubiquity creating DuplicateSignatures for those bug reports17:21
bdmurrayand a blog post regarding Ubuntu bug volume - http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=10717:21
bdmurray..17:21
pedro_btw don't forget that this week is ISO Testing so please check your bugs marked as iso-testing , lets make happy the Testing team ;-)17:22
pedro_any other comments or questions?17:24
pedro_ok thanks bdmurray Ursinha17:25
pedro_[TOPIC] Other Topics17:25
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pedro_any other topics to raise?17:25
pedro_(tic tac tic tac tic tac)17:25
pedro_[TOPIC] Chair Selection17:26
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pedro_any volunteer?17:26
pedro_or shall we use the shuf thing? ;-)17:26
pedro_shuf it is17:27
pedro_shuf -e hggdh pedro jibel gema ursinah bdmurray patrickwm charlie-tca | head -n117:27
pedro_gema17:27
pedro_congrats gema :-P17:27
hggdhYES!;2P17:27
gemapedro_: I have no idea how this works, I just arrived!17:27
gemahggdh: will you train me?17:28
hggdhheh. We will help ;-)17:28
charlie-tcaI like that shuf command17:28
hggdhyes, certainly17:28
pedro_gema, hggdh will teach you :-P17:28
gemagood, I will do it, then :)17:28
nuclearbobshould I sit in in case I get shuffed later?17:28
hggdhoh we forgot nuclearbob17:28
gemanuclearbob: you know which name my shuf is coming up with next week :P17:28
pedro_oh i forgot to add nuclearbob17:28
hggdhshould we shuf again?17:28
pedro_nah next week we only put his nickname ;-)17:29
hggdhor just 'shuf -e nuclearbob | head -n1'?17:29
gemahggdh: it's fine, just train us both so that we can do it :D17:29
hggdhdeal17:29
pedro_hggdh, yeah! :-)17:29
nuclearbobworks for me, I can take it week after next17:29
pedro_ok lets wrap17:29
pedro_#endmeeting17:29
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Aug 31 17:29:26 2011 UTC.17:29
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-31-17.00.moin.txt17:29
charlie-tcaThank you for chairing, pedro_17:29
hggdhthank you pedro_17:29
pedro_AlanBell, AH! it doesn't change the whole topic it restore it after the meeting, Jesus i was scare that i've screwed something :-P17:29
pedro_you're welcome folks! :-)17:30
AlanBellyeah, it sorts it out :_17:30
AlanBellyou can do this too  . . .17:30
pedro_cool :-)17:30
AlanBell#startmeeting QA Weekly17:30
meetingologyMeeting started Wed Aug 31 17:30:31 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.17:30
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* pedro_ taking notes17:30
hggdhAlanBell: wow, nice to know!17:30
pedro_that's cool :-)17:30
AlanBell#topic Community efforts/testing17:30
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kamusinthanks!17:30
hggdhAlanBell: I love you :-)17:31
pedro_ah! that's even better and doesn't give me a panic attack :P17:31
AlanBell#endmeeting17:31
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meetingologyMeeting ended Wed Aug 31 17:31:28 2011 UTC.17:31
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-31-17.30.moin.txt17:31
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AlanBellso the full command set is here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology17:32
AlanBellit should create beautiful minutes in moin markup format17:32
AlanBellbut there are a few bugs in the "beautiful" part right now17:33
AlanBellit has some funky new features for votes, with the #voters command and #votesrequired17:34
hggdhnuclearbob, gema ^ this is a very good link to bookmark17:34
AlanBellI just put it in the /topic and will update the blurb it spits out at the start and end of a meeting17:34
gemahggdh, AlanBell: thanks17:35
AlanBellthe idea with the bot changing the /topic is that people joining the channel know what they have walked in on17:35
hggdhyes, this is perfect.17:36
gemacool, hggdh , where is the agenda of our meetings?17:36
gemaand the people I need to talk to in each section x)17:36
hggdhgema: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings17:38
nuclearbobgroovy17:38
hggdhgema: well... for the players... you have to know beforehand. We should document it, though (nothing like lcak of docs in QA ;-))17:38
gemahggdh: ok, so why don't we just put the names of the usual players in the agenda?17:39
gemaon that wiki you got there?17:39
hggdhyes, I agree. Please feel free to do it :-)17:39
charlie-tcahggdh: we should update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings/Chairing17:40
gemawell, I would do it if I knew17:40
gemaxDDD17:40
gemaso please, do help yourself :P17:40
gemahggdh: if the names are not there by Wed next week, I will have to improvise :) good night folks!17:41
hggdhgema: g'night17:41
AlanBellhggdh: one thing we do in our LoCo team meetings is put the bot commands right in the agenda https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda17:53
AlanBellso chairing is just copying and pasting line by line17:53
hggdhAlanBell: yes, good idea. Will uncerimoniously copy it ;-)17:54
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