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dekarlHow about /etc/init/mythtv-backend waiting for net-device-up eth0?07:16
dekarlwhen waiting for the loopback device the static ip is up 5 seconds to late to allow the backend to bind to it... (doesn't matter if ifts static dhcp or static manual configuration)07:21
dekarltgm4883: I've just verified that waiting for "net-device-up IFACE=eth0" instead of "IFACE=lo" fixes my issues with a dud backend after a system restart.07:30
mrandqwebirc76614: It's been long enough that I don't remember the steps I had to take.  There were a few, but they were not difficult to figure out.  make sure you have ALSA >= 1.0.24.  There is a ppa if you don't.  Check that alsamixer is unmuted for your device.14:06
tgm4883So I apparently lost the email from whoever was going to help me with mythbuntu-bare once it got into 11.10. If you were planning on helping me with that please send me a quick email18:26
dekarltgm4883: What do you think about letting the backend start after the network?18:48
tgm4883dekarl, it should do that already?18:49
dekarlno :( it's waiting for loopback being setup which is 5-10 seconds before eth0 gets up and configured...18:49
dekarlthe master backend can't bind it's ip that way. binding * would work though18:50
tgm4883dekarl, I thought we waited for networking to finish loading?18:50
tgm4883superm1, ^18:50
superm1hm18:51
rhpot1991I thought it waits for network18:51
superm1how about instead telling the backend to bind to the new interface as it comes up?18:51
superm1i thought it did wait thus far though too18:51
dekarlI'm talking about an up to date 11.04 installation using that upstart and NetworkManager18:51
dekarlthe start script explicitly waits for IFACE=lo18:51
rhpot1991no he is right18:52
rhpot1991<dekarl> the start script explicitly waits for IFACE=lo18:52
rhpot1991grrr18:52
rhpot1991start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE=lo and started udev-finish)18:52
superm1but if we don't make that IFACE=lo what happens if they have a wireless card that doesn't associate?18:52
tgm4883what it we waited for networking instead of net-device-up18:53
rhpot1991can't we do something like start on started networking?18:53
tgm4883networking-finish or something18:53
dekarlsuperm1, that's a good question.18:53
superm1i think it's going to require some additional investigation and or recomendations from upstart folk18:53
rhpot1991I have start on started networking in a script on my server, but I'm also not convinced it works18:54
tgm4883superm1, from the cookbook18:54
tgm4883start on (starting network-interface18:54
tgm4883          or starting network-manager18:54
tgm4883          or starting networking)18:54
rhpot1991tgm4883 wins18:54
superm1 i don't believe that will win18:54
superm1because network-manager starting doesn't mean the interface is up18:55
tgm4883i'm assuming we could also do something like "finished networking"18:55
superm1what if network-manager comes up first?18:55
tgm4883superm1, well that was an example, couldn't we do "finished network-interface"18:55
superm1i'm not sure18:55
superm1i don't believe i've seen any other jobs doing that18:55
tgm4883so we are pioneers!18:55
superm1haha,18:56
tgm4883I can test that a little later, but I need to eat lunch first18:56
tgm4883or I'll get grouchy18:56
dekarlme, my significant other didn't opt in for pioneering upstart and networkmanager ;)18:56
* tgm4883 lunch18:58
mrandMight get even more interesting if there is more than one network.21:47
mrandAnd the one that myth cares about isn't the one that comes up.21:47

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