dekarl | How about /etc/init/mythtv-backend waiting for net-device-up eth0? | 07:16 |
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dekarl | when waiting for the loopback device the static ip is up 5 seconds to late to allow the backend to bind to it... (doesn't matter if ifts static dhcp or static manual configuration) | 07:21 |
dekarl | tgm4883: I've just verified that waiting for "net-device-up IFACE=eth0" instead of "IFACE=lo" fixes my issues with a dud backend after a system restart. | 07:30 |
mrand | qwebirc76614: It's been long enough that I don't remember the steps I had to take. There were a few, but they were not difficult to figure out. make sure you have ALSA >= 1.0.24. There is a ppa if you don't. Check that alsamixer is unmuted for your device. | 14:06 |
tgm4883 | So I apparently lost the email from whoever was going to help me with mythbuntu-bare once it got into 11.10. If you were planning on helping me with that please send me a quick email | 18:26 |
dekarl | tgm4883: What do you think about letting the backend start after the network? | 18:48 |
tgm4883 | dekarl, it should do that already? | 18:49 |
dekarl | no :( it's waiting for loopback being setup which is 5-10 seconds before eth0 gets up and configured... | 18:49 |
dekarl | the master backend can't bind it's ip that way. binding * would work though | 18:50 |
tgm4883 | dekarl, I thought we waited for networking to finish loading? | 18:50 |
tgm4883 | superm1, ^ | 18:50 |
superm1 | hm | 18:51 |
rhpot1991 | I thought it waits for network | 18:51 |
superm1 | how about instead telling the backend to bind to the new interface as it comes up? | 18:51 |
superm1 | i thought it did wait thus far though too | 18:51 |
dekarl | I'm talking about an up to date 11.04 installation using that upstart and NetworkManager | 18:51 |
dekarl | the start script explicitly waits for IFACE=lo | 18:51 |
rhpot1991 | no he is right | 18:52 |
rhpot1991 | <dekarl> the start script explicitly waits for IFACE=lo | 18:52 |
rhpot1991 | grrr | 18:52 |
rhpot1991 | start on (local-filesystems and net-device-up IFACE=lo and started udev-finish) | 18:52 |
superm1 | but if we don't make that IFACE=lo what happens if they have a wireless card that doesn't associate? | 18:52 |
tgm4883 | what it we waited for networking instead of net-device-up | 18:53 |
rhpot1991 | can't we do something like start on started networking? | 18:53 |
tgm4883 | networking-finish or something | 18:53 |
dekarl | superm1, that's a good question. | 18:53 |
superm1 | i think it's going to require some additional investigation and or recomendations from upstart folk | 18:53 |
rhpot1991 | I have start on started networking in a script on my server, but I'm also not convinced it works | 18:54 |
tgm4883 | superm1, from the cookbook | 18:54 |
tgm4883 | start on (starting network-interface | 18:54 |
tgm4883 | or starting network-manager | 18:54 |
tgm4883 | or starting networking) | 18:54 |
rhpot1991 | tgm4883 wins | 18:54 |
superm1 | i don't believe that will win | 18:54 |
superm1 | because network-manager starting doesn't mean the interface is up | 18:55 |
tgm4883 | i'm assuming we could also do something like "finished networking" | 18:55 |
superm1 | what if network-manager comes up first? | 18:55 |
tgm4883 | superm1, well that was an example, couldn't we do "finished network-interface" | 18:55 |
superm1 | i'm not sure | 18:55 |
superm1 | i don't believe i've seen any other jobs doing that | 18:55 |
tgm4883 | so we are pioneers! | 18:55 |
superm1 | haha, | 18:56 |
tgm4883 | I can test that a little later, but I need to eat lunch first | 18:56 |
tgm4883 | or I'll get grouchy | 18:56 |
dekarl | me, my significant other didn't opt in for pioneering upstart and networkmanager ;) | 18:56 |
* tgm4883 lunch | 18:58 | |
mrand | Might get even more interesting if there is more than one network. | 21:47 |
mrand | And the one that myth cares about isn't the one that comes up. | 21:47 |
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