[00:00] https://launchpad.net/gpm [00:10] I am investigeting . . . [00:10] evening [00:10] Thanks for the suggestion . . . [00:41] I have tried following this turorial: < http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=148 >, but the machine will not start and VirtualBox provides me with this message: "Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Video Surveillance System. Configuration error: Failed to get the "MAC" value (VERR_CFGM_VALUE_NOT_FOUND). Unknown error creating VM (VERR_CFGM_VALUE_NOT_FOUND).". I do not understand how to connect to the server with SSH. How can I do this? [00:49] New bug: #710040 in lm-sensors (main) "does not support atom d525" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710040 [02:09] I have been trying connect a Ubuntu Desktop host and a Ubuntu Server VirturalBox gest on the same machine with no success. I have been chatting on the #openssh channel and #vbox channel, I have tried the tutorial: < http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=148 >, and other suggestions . . . but I am obviously overlooking something very critical. I don't know what to do at this point. [02:10] How can I get this to work? [02:13] Sorry, I don't support vbox. Ubuntu recommends KVM and libvirt. [02:19] Technicus: Can the machines ping each other? [02:19] And openssh-server is installed on one or both? [02:20] OpenSSH-Server is installed on the server. [02:20] nandemonai: From the error he initially reported, it sounds like vbox is borking at the bridging level, irrespective of the guest OS configuration [02:21] Just saw the above post. [02:22] Technicus: That's a virtualbox issue for sure. How are the network interfaces configured in Virtualbox? [02:23] I am trying to figure that out. [02:23] There is probably a vbox channel [02:23] Technicus: Bridged, NAT, host only etc. Something isn't set right. I'd check the virtualbox forums and google your specific error. [02:23] The host has an adapter called vboxnet0. [02:23] Unless it's vbox ose it's not really our problem [02:25] Oh, apparently there is no longer an "OSE"; there is just normal (open source) vbox, plus a proprietary Oracle "plugin" === RudyValencia- is now known as RudyValencia [04:28] hallyn: I just checked up on the libvirt build and it failed becaus eo f the libnl3-dev missing dependency :( [04:39] crass: gah. forgot the patch didn't touch debian/control. new upload coming [04:39] * hallyn out [04:53] hallyn: thanks, didn't expect you to be up :) [05:00] dch; debcommit; dch -r; debcommit -r [05:12] New bug: #837828 in exim4 (main) "package exim4-config 4.69-2ubuntu0.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837828 === momoz_ is now known as momoz === himcesjf2 is now known as himcesjf === smb` is now known as smb [07:23] hi all [07:24] how to setup/install ubuntu mail server for windows outlook clients ? [07:30] hi all [07:34] Well, you have three choices. First, deploy a normal SMTP/IMAP setup and work out how to make outlook talk IMAP. Second, deploy a propriatery MAPI server like Zimbra CS. Third, deploy a webmail server and tell your users to suck it up and use a web browser instead of outlook. [07:35] Oh, and of course fourth, just get rid of Windows. [07:36] twb: are you answering me ? [07:36] linocisco: yes [07:36] morning [07:37] twb: thanks. Let me tell you have i have done. I have installed postfix. I have done dpkg-reconfigure postfix and enter settings. telnet myserver.org 25 and ehlo myserver.org is fine. what else I do ? [07:38] twb: some said that I need to install dovecot and nmap to check ports. [07:38] 25 is SMTP [07:38] If you want them to be able to read mail (IMAP) as well as sending it (SMTP), you need an IMAP server -- dovecot is one [07:39] IMAP leaves mail on the server; you could use POP3 instead, which downloads it to the desktop, but that is usually not what you want [07:40] Rather: if you're an ISP you probably want POP3, if you're a corporation you probably want IMAP. [07:41] twb: Let me recall theory, If I use IMAP, all mail clients must be always online with ubuntu mail server. Otherwise, they can't read email if LAN cable or WIFI link is disconnected. Right ? [07:42] twb: He just wants a local server (He's been here for a while) and that server does not have internet connectivity. [07:42] linocisco: Well, setup both POP3 and IMAP and switch if users are being silly [07:42] linocisco: with IMAP, the mail stays on the server. Users can only access it when they are have access to the server. [07:42] ersi: thanks eris. you always read my mind. knew half of my problems. thanks for coming [07:43] linocisco: with POP3, they download it to their desktop or laptop, which means if their laptop explodes -- no more mail. If they change laptop -- no more mail. [07:43] twb: can we have a settings to leave a copy of mails on server even though if we use POP3, right ? [07:43] linocisco: It's one of the things I'm good at, I can't always help with particular stuff - but my memory works wonders sometimes :P [07:44] linocisco: Yes, there is one such setting - but I wouldn't recommend using it. POP3 is a dumb protocol, and leaving copies on the server usually ends up in tears [07:44] like.. some silly user whining about three thousand duplicates because Outlook is a piece of.. goo. [07:45] linocisco: you can, yes [07:45] linocisco: the other problem is that outlook is REALLY SHIT, and AIUI only works properly if you use MAPI, which is Microsoft's mess alternative to IMAP [07:46] IMAP <3 [07:46] Even if the users are on Windows, I would probably try to get them onto tbird [07:47] ersi: twb: I am not thinking only outlook. May Be thunderbird or any mail clients that will work on windows. because most users are always sticked to windows. But it would be nicer to work with Microsoft outlook because we already paid for office suite. [07:47] tbird sucks pretty hard as well, but probably not as bad as outlook [07:47] linocisco: You can cache mail locally with IMAP, and make both Outlook shitpress and Thunderbird save copies locally in them and keep it on the server [07:47] Mail is hard, let's go shopping :-) [07:47] mail is only hard because users won't learn mutt [07:48] Sorry, let me rephrase [07:48] mail is only hard because users [07:48] Amen. [07:48] ersi: you are funny. btw, let's get down to nitty gitty. other than postfix package. what else should I install ? [07:48] First thing we do, let's kill all the users [07:49] linocisco: I usually use postfix with dovecot. Other than that, nothing more is needed - besides sasl-auth stuff [07:49] ersi: ldap would be nice [07:49] yeah, but not absolutely necessary :) [07:49] I also rolled out prayer, mainly because it was not PHP. It looks OK if you tell it to use the cambridge "theme" [07:49] but yeah, indeed [07:50] It's no gmail, but OTOH it actually works in w3m and lynx [07:50] I'm more of a roundcube kind of guy [07:50] roundcube is PHP, so automatic fail in my book [07:51] http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/~dpc22/prayer/ [07:51] ersi: namely please. dovecot-posfix or dovecot-common or ?? what ? please specific name please!! [07:51] meh, it's fancy and users love it [07:51] linocisco: Yes and yes [07:51] My job is to prevent users from having what they want. [07:52] I'm not actually a sysadmin or have any kind of infra responsibility [07:52] I'm hired to break stuff :) [07:52] I'm not allowed to set up nessusd yet :-/ [07:53] ersi: yes and yes ?? only two packages (dovecot-postfix and dovecot-common ) ?? [07:53] linocisco: either just dovecot-postfix, which will try to set it up for you, or if that fails, then dovecot-imapd and postfix [07:54] For me, dovecot-postfix did completely the wrong thing, so I just threw it out and did it right. dovecot-postfix is only about twenty lines of config files anyway [07:54] twb: so what is better? exim or courier or .. ? [07:55] linocisco: "dovecot-postfix" is a wrapper package. [07:55] linocisco: Nothing is better. It's a subject of taste. [07:55] dovecot is fine; postfix is fine. [07:55] Pick one, stick with it until you're mad about it or got time to tinker [07:55] dovecot and postfix are the ubuntu recommended choices [07:55] can't go terribly wrong with dovecot+postfix mix [07:56] I like that combo [07:56] twb: thanks bro. postifx = MTA , dovecot is for = IMAP+POP3 , right ? [07:56] linocisco: yes [07:57] I like postfix, especially compared to sendmail or exim. Dovecot I pretty much just installed and then left alone, and it hasn't caused any trouble [07:57] I'm still using procmail instead of sieve, tho [07:57] Postfix is the LDA [07:57] twb: thanks bro. I will google how to edit in dovecot to work with windows mail clients . If I failed, I would come back [07:57] twb: that is another thing I dont know. what is procmail ? [07:58] linocisco: also try #dovecot and ##windows [07:58] linocisco: It's a filtering software, sorta [07:58] procmail is a thing where you can say stuff like "all mail from jerry, put in the jerry folder" [07:58] linocisco: Not necessary, you can look at it after setting up postfix+dovecot if you got the need :) [07:58] Sieve is basically the same except it's built into IMAP [07:59] Meaning that the MUA can do it, whereas ~/.procmailrc requires a shell account and knowledge of vi [08:08] my second mail questions is concerning office deployment [08:09] linocisco: in my remote offices, they used government ISP internet connection which allows only 8080 and 443 ports. Our enterprise mail sever use other port. so their only option is to use webmail only. I just want to setup POP3 mail clients for them. which support could ubuntu server perform to accomplish that ? [08:10] [14:41] linocisco: in my remote offices, they used government ISP internet connection which allows only 8080 and 443 ports. Our enterprise mail sever use other port. so their only option is to use webmail only. I just want to setup POP3 mail clients for them. which support could ubuntu server perform to accomplish that ? [08:10] in my remote offices, they used government ISP internet connection which allows only 8080 and 443 ports. Our enterprise mail sever use other port. so their only option is to use webmail only. I just want to setup POP3 mail clients for them. which support could ubuntu server perform to accomplish that ? [08:12] You can't do POP3 over webmail [08:12] I mean just to give them access to download emails and read offline like using pop3 clients. So they don't need to open email and wait for slow internet connection to check old mails [08:12] OTOH you can run anything over any port, so you could just serve IMAP on port 8080 [08:13] I hear china are putting black boxes in all the cafe wifi access, too [08:13] dannf: ping [08:13] er sorry [08:13] Daviey: ping [08:13] twb: we have very slow internet with expensive charge. we are not china and worse than that. [08:13] linocisco: where are you? [08:14] myanmar? === himcesjf1 is now known as himcesjf [08:46] hey guys i am upgrading my server and i was just wondering in regards to dovecot + postfix all i need to do is backup the configs for each as well as my Maildir and then copy it over correct? [10:55] Hi! Can I setup a DHCP server on eth0 on a laptop and have the wireless still function on dhcp [10:56] Sure [10:57] Unless you have a GUI and NM running, which will probably try to stop you because they're too damn clever for their own good... [10:57] I know a bunch of people that set up their old laptops as routers or wifi APs [10:57] whats nm [10:57] network manager [10:58] of course [10:59] I am trying to setup a laptop to have dhcp server to prepare new printers but need to have the laptop wireless still work. [11:00] I can start dhcp server but when I shut down the computer it fails to start on reboot [11:00] Can't figure [11:00] hi im looking for some 'guidelines' to get the best performance out of my 'server' its running a 2.1ghz dualcore amd (64bit) with 2x 1gb ddr2. 3x 1tb sata + 1x ide (20gb laptop drive 4200rpm so its slow). its going to run 10.4 with ebox installed... my question is... how should i install... [11:01] should i run the 3 sata in software raid... [11:02] and if so.. is it wise to instal the system /root on it [11:03] New bug: #837991 in apache2 (main) "Update apache2 to 2.2.19-2 to fix CVE-2011-3192" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/837991 [11:31] Hey guys. Does anyone know which software it is that, when I log into one of my hosts, I receive an email that has a subject "*** SECURITY information for host.domain.com ***" and the email is just the hostname, the date and the logged in user? [11:32] Hey guys. Does anyone know which software it is that, when I log into one of my hosts, I receive an email that has a subject "*** SECURITY information for host.domain.com ***" and the email is just the hostname, the date and the logged in user? [11:32] oops. Sorry about posting that twice [11:42] jetole: logcheck [11:42] possibly [11:45] try man sudoers 5 [11:46] New bug: #838010 in augeas (main) "/usr/share/augeas/lenses/dist/aliases.aug does not parse valid /etc/aliases file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838010 [11:50] just-a-visitor: or man even, man 5 sudoers [11:50] or just man sudoers :P [11:50] :) [11:50] hello, http://askubuntu.com/questions/59373/stream-a-random-audio-file-from-a-shared-folder-in-network [11:51] * RoyK just ordered 150 Hitachi HDS723020BLA642 drives === ehw is now known as ehw|asdf [11:58] * jetole checks [11:59] no logcheck [11:59] default sudoers file === ehw|asdf is now known as ehw [12:01] I'd really like to know what's sending the email. I have about 30 servers and just noticed it on these two but these servers have been around forever and I have never seen it before [12:01] though I may want to implement this on other systems once I know what it is [12:03] I'd check out the mail headers and see if it's smart enough to set some headers telling you WTF it is [12:04] I know on most of machines which also use ldap and sudo through ldap, it sends a email every time sudo is run but these machines are not using ldap and have a default sudoers file [12:04] ersi: I did. the only header I see is 'Auto-Submitted: auto-generated' [12:04] everything else is just standard headers [12:04] morning [12:05] morning [12:07] ah crap. It is sudo and I just figured out why [12:08] the host is using an older domain which we just transferred to a third party server that no longer knows about a lot of these hosts so sudo says unable to resolve the host name [12:08] It's supposed to be changed to a different domain and that's why [12:09] thanks for the help guys. Now I gotta go hit the bank before I go into the office [12:09] later [12:09] jetole: Awesome that you found out. :-) [12:09] thanks to trapmax, just-a-visitor and ersi [12:10] +1 to just-a-visitor for giving me the right answer even when I didn't think that was it. lol [12:10] ^_^ [12:10] ersi: Error: "_^" is not a valid command. [12:10] * jetole runs to make sure I [12:11] * jetole runs to make sure I'm at work on time [12:14] :D [12:29] Who wants to do a dhpython2 transition, and enable a test suite during the python build? :) [12:30] jamespage, or Ursinha can we get 20110831 cloud images on ec2 tests run please ? [12:30] Daviey: ill do it [12:30] smoser: Is that considered our candidate? [12:31] smoser: ack [12:31] Daviey, unless you ahve a reason that it should not be [12:31] smoser: no, just wanted to know :) [12:32] zul: bug #836677 [12:32] Launchpad bug 836677 in python-dingus "[MIR] python-dingus" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836677 [12:32] Daviey: funny i already knew which bug you were referring to [12:33] zul: good stuff! [12:34] zul: so ipy has been removed from nova in bzr? [12:35] yep [12:35] Is installing natty then do-release-upgrade the preferred way to install oneiric? I can't find any docs anywhere [12:36] rbasak: That is useful as testing, at this point in the cycle. [12:36] rbasak: easier to start off with oneiric [12:36] rbasak: But you can just install from the b1 candidate iso :) [12:36] OK so either :) [12:36] yup! [12:37] rbasak: fresh install, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-amd64.iso [12:39] Thanks Daviey. This is for a virtual machine, so is there a server ISO too somewhere? I'm still backing up my main machine and I'll probably go maverick->natty->oneiric for that! [12:40] rbasak: sure.. just navigate the url above. :) [12:40] Daviey: No server iso in that directory :-/ [12:40] rbasak: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/ [12:41] ah, ok! [12:41] * rbasak will hopefully stop getting lost soon :) [12:42] rbasak: If you find out how, please let smoser know how. [13:06] Daviey: stompy will need one as well [13:08] SpamapS: hi; can we use 'start on stopped rc-sysinit' for upstart jobs that depend on not-yet-upstartified sysv jobs? [13:10] zul: cool, can you update the status on the bug please? [13:18] this look like it will work? ..... http://pastebin.com/n3y6EfA1 === davros- is now known as davros === davros-_ is now known as davros- [13:21] stompy has been taken care of as well [13:21] zul: \o/ === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [13:49] hi folks, anyone happen to know whether a patch for CVE-2011-3192 will be backported to Apache versions prior to 2.2.20, 2.2.19 is the latest in the repo. [13:49] cr3: The byterange filter in the Apache HTTP Server 1.3.x, 2.0.x through 2.0.64, and 2.2.x through 2.2.19 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (memory and CPU consumption) via a Range header that expresses multiple overlapping ranges, as exploited in the wild in August 2011, a different vulnerability than CVE-2007-0086. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3192) [13:50] <_johnny> hi. anyone familiar with xinetd and stunnel? i've followed a few "how to"'s, but they all involve wrapping ssl around another connection, rather than binary execution - which i'm having a little trouble with. anyone tried something like this? (i have a xinetd service which runs a shell cmd, and want to convert this to a stunnel conf) [13:51] advanced search for that CVE under the ubuntu apache project in launchpad bugs, even those fix released, doesn't return anything [13:53] cr3: ask the security folk [13:53] cr3: but afaik its being worked on [13:57] cr3: sbeattie is working on updates for hardy - natty. I imagine once those are out he will either do or coordinate with the server team for oneiric [13:58] s/ do / do the patch himself / [13:58] alright, who wants to have fun diagnosing a very nasty server bug with me? :D bug #818177 [13:58] Launchpad bug 818177 in linux "HP DL380G5 root disk mounted read-only on boot and boot fails" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/818177 [14:11] smoser: libvirt is just TOYING WITH ME. I've got /bin/mount wrappered to spit out some info. Up ot the last time that /bin/mount is called during bootup, /dev/ptmx is a symlink. But after i log in, it's not. [14:12] jdstrand: thanks, where can I look to keep updated about the state of the patch? might there be a bug or something I could subscribe to? [14:13] cr3: I imagine it is going out today, but sbeattie would be in a better position to say. so, either look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-3192.html or www.ubuntu.com/usn (there is an feed on the latter) [14:13] jdstrand: The byterange filter in the Apache HTTP Server 1.3.x, 2.0.x through 2.0.64, and 2.2.x through 2.2.19 allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (memory and CPU consumption) via a Range header that expresses multiple overlapping ranges, as exploited in the wild in August 2011, a different vulnerability than CVE-2007-0086. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-3192) [14:36] RoAkSoAx: I think the whole preseeds need review for cobbler TBH. [14:36] (orchestra) [14:36] Daviey: hey....you still using that Toshiba netbook to keep your feet warm? [14:37] robbiew: Nah, i tried to see if it blended. [14:37] (it doesn't) [14:37] Daviey: can you send it to rbasak, then? [14:37] robbiew: Yep.. not sure how useful it will be long term. [14:38] rbasak: Can you let me know your address please? [14:39] I don't plan to post it until tomorrow now. [14:42] i think i've pretty much isntalled every package with the work xapian in it and yet haystack and xapian-haystack report that i don't have xapian installed. [14:43] Daviey: I don't think there's much review to be done [14:43] Daviey: it is just a simple non questions asked installation [14:43] Daviey: though, minor stuff such as shostname needs to be handled [14:49] I hate dhcp3 so much right now [14:51] SpamapS: why is it that, on RAID1 recovery I get the MDs as a mix of both disks? [14:51] SpamapS: 3 mds; one has both disks active, one has disk1 active, and one has disk2 active [14:52] hggdh: that sounds like a very bad md crash [14:52] hggdh: it's normally either one disk or the other, mixup... eek [14:54] lynxman: not really a bad crash. Just the standard ISO test ;-) [14:54] lynxman: dude!! [14:54] lynxman: can we do the thing tomorrow morning? I'm still fighting here with my fixes [14:54] RoAkSoAx: don't worry, my machines are as dead as Zed [14:55] hggdh: it still terrifies me :) [14:55] lynxman: well, TBH, it also worries me... this is why I pinged Clint [14:55] lynxman: hehehe ok [15:02] zul: ping [15:02] robbiew: whats up? [15:03] zul: are u working on the cobbler/ARM bits? [15:03] was thinking rbasak might be able to help [15:03] robbiew: no RoAkSoAx got it working afaik [15:03] RoAkSoAx: ^^? [15:06] hallyn, wow. [15:08] smoser: all right, so i've only had two working ways to work around this. [15:08] the racy one, is to have /etc/init/ssh.conf re-setup ptmx [15:08] the other is to have libvirt not make ptmx a symlink, but a mount [15:08] ssh doing it is pointless [15:09] yes, and racy [15:09] as its not only ssh that is affected [15:09] but the first one :) [15:09] ideally a systemtap taplet would show me where devpts is being mounted... [15:09] libvirt or lxc tools doing *anything* is really garbage to me. [15:09] but i'd need linux-image-virtual-dbg which doesn't seem to exist [15:10] kees ^ [15:10] just like if my laptop bios decided it shoudl run 'ifconfig eth0 up' for my OS. [15:10] smoser: i've tried having /sbin/MAKEDEV create ptmx the right way, but that wasn't enough [15:11] right, ideally we find what, in our boot sequence, is creating ptmx the wrong way [15:11] and fix that [15:11] but failing htat, i'm goign to push a libvirt patch to do /dev/ptmx as bind mount isntead of symlink. [15:11] New bug: #836668 in pymongo (universe) "[FFE] python-mongodb" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/836668 [15:11] (it's already doing symlink, so it's not like it's adding to hackiness) [15:11] hallyn, really, thats just going to break other things. [15:12] you're changing an expected environment [15:12] what is going to break other things? [15:12] changing libvirt [15:13] you risk breaking other working containers [15:13] just to fix something you dont understand. [15:13] I don't think so [15:13] wtf how can, address 192.168.1.10 not in subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.255 [15:14] smoser: there are two ways to provide a correct /dev/ptmx in a container. [15:14] of course i can just blame you for insisting on using libvirt-lxc [15:15] davros-: well, with the netmask being all ones, it makes sense [15:15] you can blame ubuntu for choosing libvirt as the prefered hypervisor interface. [15:15] but blaming me is not going to do much good. [15:15] zul: Was enabling the testsuite in python-dingus viable? [15:15] although i do agree with the choice to use libvirt [15:15] Daviey: i totally missed that part [15:15] smoser: it helps me ignore your annoying stmts about 'things i don't understand' :) [15:16] anyway i'm off to try stap some more. bbl [15:16] hallyn: stapping is bad [15:16] hallyn, thats reasonable. [15:16] i really just dont think that changing a platform to suite an occupant is a good idea. [15:16] hggdh, what do u mean all 1's as in "1"92."1"68. etc [15:16] smoser: I hate to do this, but i really do agree with you. [15:17] davros-: netmask, not IP [15:17] Because netmask 255.255.255.255 or /32 specifies only 1 IP. You need at least /28 or 255.255.255.240. (In general: 255.255.255.0 will do.) [15:17] Daviey: not really [15:18] zul: uh? [15:18] hggdh, oops [15:18] thx [15:19] Daviey: you asked me about the python-dingus testsuite being enabled and i just had a look at it and my response is not really worth it [15:19] smoser, Daviey: ec2 testing completed - https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ [15:19] Daviey: since python-carrot is going to go away soon anywyas [15:19] zul: Ah.. do you want to comment on the MIR bug why? [15:19] Daviey: sure [15:20] hmmm to bad it still gives out ip's that don't connect to the internet [15:21] Daviey: commented [15:21] jamespage, do you have thoughts on https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ARCH=amd64,REGION=eu-west-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=multi-part-ud,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/lastBuild/console [15:21] no route to host ? === jpds_ is now known as jpds [15:21] er... i guess it is UserInitiatedShutdown [15:22] ah. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ARCH=amd64,REGION=eu-west-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=multi-part-ud,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/lastBuild/artifact/None/amd64/m1.large/ebs/i-ba545fcc/fd0b2556-95c8-4194-a41b-ecb77335c031-terminated.console.txt it seems to have not come back up after a stop and start. [15:23] oh wait. it never booted, even better. [15:23] nope - it did boot [15:24] phase 5/6 is restart and check then shutdown to complete test [15:24] you mean stop [15:24] stop and start [15:24] as opposed to reboot, right? [15:25] it booted up first time OK [15:25] tested OK [15:25] but did not managed the stop/start that well - needed a kick as would not start [15:25] it got there in the end (I think) [15:25] well, did it? [15:26] unless initramfs has a timeout before just rebooting, i dont know what would have done it. [15:26] yeah it did - you can see the 'validated keys' message in the log - but it took a reboot [15:26] ah. so your test suite kicked it. [15:26] and it took a long time to shutdown in phase 6 [15:26] thats the one [15:26] thats the first time I've ever seen that error tho [15:27] is the "i'm going to reboot that instance for you" logged anywhere ? [15:27] yeah, its basically "can't find root". blkid /dev/xvda1 never came back. [15:28] but then, according to https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ARCH=amd64,REGION=eu-west-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=multi-part-ud,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/lastBuild/artifact/None/amd64/m1.large/ebs/i-ba545fcc/fd0b2556-95c8-4194-a41b-ecb77335c031-terminated.console.txt it never came back up after that. [15:29] that might be a time issue on collecting console output [15:29] INFO:root:Instance i-ba545fcc not responding after 1200 seconds - rebooting [15:29] is the test framework kicking the instance [15:30] INFO:root:Host ssh-dss key validated for instance i-ba545fcc (ec2-46-137-133-140.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) INFO:root:Host ssh-rsa key validated for instance i-ba545fcc (ec2-46-137-133-140.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) [15:30] is it validating the signature of the server post stop/start [15:33] jamespage, and then https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ARCH=i386,REGION=ap-southeast-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=simple-user-data,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/lastBuild/artifact/None/i386/m1.small/ebs/i-d5e38880/ [15:33] there is no terminated console ? [15:36] smoser: one sec - still catching up [15:36] looks like both eu-west-1 tests that failed failed in the same way? [15:37] i think so, other than the i386 did not get -terminated console collected [15:37] so we really dont know. [15:37] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ARCH=i386,REGION=eu-west-1,STORAGE=ebs,TEST=multi-part-ud,label=ubuntu-server-ec2-testing/lastBuild/artifact/None/i386/m1.small/ebs/i-de545fa8/cbfa90d3-2ab8-4b99-aa5f-36d7cba1b072-terminated.console.txt is very interesting. its the first time we've seen the url error on metadata service after i put in the 'ci-info:' information. [15:38] that ci-info information is printed on 'cloud-init start' job, which should only happen after eth0 is up. but eth0 does not have a network address. [15:39] but it clearly didn't timeout, as 2.8 seconds or some such in [15:40] did you see the kernel panic at the top of that log? [15:40] where? [15:40] [7334662.954504] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! [15:41] oh, yeah. [15:41] did the test suite kick that ? [15:41] yeah [15:41] the ap-southeast failure did not actually 'terminate' the machine per say [15:42] hmm. [15:42] the entire test timed out and it scrubbed everything [15:42] strange. [15:42] smoser: directly after the /root/dev/console bug [15:42] right [15:42] i just saw that. [15:42] so that is the bug. [15:42] * Daviey suspects race condition :/ [15:42] and i'm happy to see that [15:42] as previously i'nd only seen it on kexec'd kernels. [15:42] if only we could reliably trigget it :/ [15:43] so for that log, it looks like: [15:43] * bug 833783 [15:43] Launchpad bug 833783 in initramfs-tools "boot failure: can't open /root/dev/console: no such file" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/833783 [15:44] (which caused the kernel panic) [15:44] * harness reboot [15:44] * did not get networking, even though 'ifup eth0' finished. [15:44] is that right, jamespage i'm not sure about the harness kick. [15:44] ivoks: re the upstart question.. I'd do stopped rc RUNLEVEL=[2345] so you can also start when you switch from runlevel 1 -> 2 [15:45] SpamapS: ok, thanks [15:45] ivoks: make sure you stop on starting rc RUNLEVEL=[016] so you stop before the depended upon service. [15:45] smoser: yeah - that looks right to me [15:45] then, *another* root/dev/console error [15:45] and success. [15:46] wow. [15:46] if at first you dont succeed. [15:46] keep on rebooting!!! [15:46] it will get there in the end! [15:46] hggdh: and re the RAID1 oddness.. that has not happened for me.. and I'm not sure how it would decide to choose the volumes that way ... at what step in the tests did you see this? [15:48] SpamapS: I installed, booted with both disks, shutdown, removed first disk, rebooted degraded, shutdown, removed the second disk and readded the first, booted degraded, shutdown, added back the second, got it [15:48] SpamapS: on AMD64 (KVM) [15:49] jamespage, is it possible to get a permalink to https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/ chart ? [15:49] ah. this looks like maybe https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/7/ [15:49] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/oneiric-server-ec2/7/ [15:49] snap [15:49] thats the specific build record so should not change [15:50] hggdh: you broke your RAID badly [15:50] hggdh: I updated the test procedures late in the 10.10 cycle because they instructed you to do that.. booting with one up, then the other, corrupts the array consistently [15:50] hggdh: its an open bug that we don't have a good solution for, and can be avoided by not doing that. ;) [15:51] SpamapS: ah. Then we have to update the instructions :-) [15:51] hggdh: I did! [15:51] SpamapS: do you have the bug #? [15:51] bug 557429 [15:51] Launchpad bug 557429 in ubuntu-release-notes "array with conflicting changes is assembled with data corruption/silent loss" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/557429 [15:52] hggdh: step 16 f could perhaps using some more clear wording. [15:53] SpamapS: yes, looking at it now [15:53] SpamapS: although I did not get the destructive effect on the bug [15:54] hggdh: We may need to more strongly state that this is a known bug that has no easy fix, and so that procedure should be avoided.. [15:54] hggdh: you did, you just don't know it. [15:54] hggdh: dig through log files, you'll find some nastiness. [15:54] will do :-) [15:54] Its *possible* that the writes were all nearly identical in alignment and placement, but given the way ext4 works, thats highly unlikely. [15:55] Have seen it corrupt stuff in /var/lib/dpkg .. /etc .. initramfs.. its just nasty [15:59] reported bug 838199 [15:59] Launchpad bug 838199 in linux "initramfs blkid /dev/xvda1 did not return, failed boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838199 [16:00] smoser: ^^ might be a udev bug [16:01] i dont think so. [16:01] blkid blocked. [16:01] died on IO [16:01]