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EarthlingHello early chatters02:37
nigelbhello!02:48
ballMornin'02:48
EarthlingGood god. Make coffee please02:49
ballCoffee sounds like a good idea.02:49
ballI've still got to take the rubbish out, it's bin day tomorrow02:50
EarthlingYes go make :-)02:50
ball...then I have to find clothes for work in the morning.02:50
EarthlingWidely a task I try not to forget. But do02:53
HazRPGhmm, apparently I can now upload videos longer than 15mins on youtube now o.O05:17
HazRPGJust got a "Congratulations! Your account is now enabled for uploads of longer than 15 minutes. Click the Upload button below to select a video." message on the upload section after I uploaded something05:18
MartijnVdSHazRPG: now to find an activity that you can do for >15 minutes :P05:23
HazRPGMartijnVdS: Indeed!05:23
HazRPGthis is interesting... apparently everyone is logged in 3 times on my list of users o.O05:23
HazRPGactually, not everyone... just some05:23
HazRPGapparently there's 344 people in here, that's way more than average05:24
MartijnVdSstränge05:26
HazRPGMartijnVdS: very!05:31
HazRPGbah, why I can't I remember the name of the gui tool for launchpad that someone made05:39
HazRPGit was a man and his wife that made it05:39
HazRPGeven had videos05:40
HazRPGah ha! I found it!05:50
HazRPGhttp://ground-control.org05:50
nigelbHazRPG: heh, doctormo made it, but I don't know if his wife wwas part of it.06:12
HazRPGnigelb: Well she helped make the intro video at least ^_^06:13
nigelbAhh.06:13
HazRPGCan't remember if she's in any of the other videos though06:13
diplo-Morning all07:16
DJonesHazRPG: Thats a name from the past, doctormo is from the same town as me and a couple of friends were at school with him07:17
HazRPGDJones: awesome ^_^07:18
DJonesHe came back to the uk eitehr last christmas or the one before and I was going to meet up with him, but life got in the way & didn't get chance, I assume he's still based in the US at the minute07:21
DJonesMore Touchpads being made after the fire sale http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/31/last_run_of_touchpads/ So still a chance to buy one when they hit the shelves07:22
gingfor a cheap price?07:45
gingsort of defeats the point if they're back up to a higher price07:45
AlanBellcheap by the looks of things07:46
AlanBellclearly they can make and distribute them for cheap if they want07:46
gingyou think they will be doing the same sort of thing for enterprise storage systems?07:47
AlanBelllol07:47
ging$100 san systems07:47
AlanBellso who can make it to London on 17/09/2011 for a pub based evening?07:48
diplo-Long weekend with my boys so not me I'm afraid07:48
MooDoohello all07:50
BigRedSAlanBell: I might be able to. Stop planning these things when I'm on call :)07:55
AlanBellMooDoo: Nottingham is early on the list . .07:58
diplo-Any one know on HP machines if the serial number I find in dmidecode would be the correct one ?08:04
diplo-Trying to fill out my cash back form and machine is at home :/08:04
AlanBellserial number from that is normally "OEM SHOULD POPULATE THIS" or some such08:07
diplo-http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/120069 - AlanBell ?08:10
MooDooAlanBell: thanks, i'll bear it in mind :)08:11
AlanBelldiplo-: heh, like that! however the top one looks plausible doesn't it08:12
AlanBellMooDoo: nope, you will pick the date!08:12
MooDooAlanBell: yeah i knew that, i've just posted a twitter to my other ubuntu users, i'll add one shortly08:12
TheOpenSourcererThis is rather cool... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXbBA1DRE8408:12
TheOpenSourcererMorning BTW08:13
AlanBellmorning08:13
bigcalmMorning peeps :)08:13
diplo-yeah I was hoping it was, just my form for my microserver.. don't want to miss out on the £100, suppose I could wait till tomorrow08:13
MooDoohay who put up the crown in beeston? :)08:15
gordthis is some horrible pun isn't it?08:16
czajkowskialoha08:23
MooDoomorning czajkowski08:23
czajkowskiwhere is davmor208:24
MooDooczajkowski: not seen him in a couple of days....08:24
czajkowskipff and he gives out to me08:24
MooDooczajkowski: i'm not happy either.....;)08:24
czajkowskididdums08:24
MooDooczajkowski: oi don't give me that ..... POKE!!08:25
Garyhey czajkowski how ya doing?08:30
czajkowskiGary: grand, how's life?08:31
czajkowskiMooDoo: you'll get such a clatter!08:31
Garyit's alright, I'm still in a bit of pain, but alive :-)08:31
MooDooczajkowski: i'm not scared of you !  you upstart you ;)  see ubuntu related smackdown ;)08:33
czajkowskiGary: what have you done to yourself08:34
czajkowskiMooDoo: my dear I never taint ubuntu with such slander08:34
Garysplatted into the pavement after crashing into another cyclist on a blind corner08:34
Garyczajkowski: broke my hand and splatted my face and chest a bit08:34
czajkowskiGary: yer a bit special08:35
czajkowskihow about walking from now on ok08:35
Garythats wot my mom said!08:35
AlanBellczajkowski: but not on ice08:35
MooDooczajkowski: my dear?   god don't call me that....you win08:36
czajkowskiAlanBell: fecking hate ice and snow and cold! .... rant!08:36
czajkowskiMooDoo: glad you finally get it :)08:36
bigcalmLooks like another funeral is taking place this morning. Living 5 doors from the village church can be a little depressing at times. Not to mention the traffic congestion it causes08:44
MooDooczajkowski: just seen your link on FB, your right some people should never have kids :(08:49
MooDooczajkowski: makes me mad, even more so as i'm still waiting for my new one..08:50
* bigcalm will never have kids, so that's on less problem in this world08:50
MooDoobigcalm: why never?08:50
czajkowskiMooDoo: indeed08:50
MooDoonever is a long time08:50
czajkowskibigcalm: never say never, stuff happens and then what.08:51
czajkowskithough I've a mate and she HATES kids08:51
czajkowskiand I don't understand that statement08:51
czajkowskiand I know it's not a good idea to ask her to babysit, but she really hates being around kids and never ever wants them, I find it odd when a woman says that08:51
MooDookids can be a pain in the neck, but there is ALWAYS a love for them :)08:51
czajkowskiMooDoo: exactly08:52
MooDooit's something that is difficult to understand unless you have them yourself.08:52
gordi don't know how to act around kids, everyone else seems to go into baby talk mode and go "awww" a lot. i go "sup..." and get bored with them08:53
czajkowskiI had a weird moment this week, I baby sat my godaughter when she was 2 weeks old, this week she's in the car driving08:53
JamesTaitGoooood mooorning all. ;-)08:54
* freakyclown hopes there were several years between?08:54
freakyclownor are babies allowed driving licences now?08:54
MooDooczajkowski: can i borrow your services in a few days then ;) lol08:54
czajkowskifreakyclown: 16 years and 11 months08:56
MooDooczajkowski: feel old much?08:58
DJonesczajkowski: What was the channel you set up for the rugby, it might be the wrong code of rugby for me, but I do pay a bit of attention to it08:58
czajkowskiMooDoo: just a tad08:58
czajkowskiDJones: #RWCRants08:58
DJonesTa08:58
andylockranDJones: #RWCRants08:58
andylockran:p08:58
czajkowskidanfish: #RWCRants has been created08:59
* MooDoo has just join...ready to batter the iri....oh that didn't work too well last time did it08:59
czajkowskinope09:00
* MooDoo hugs czajkowski :p09:00
gordreally weird creature rants?09:02
czajkowskimy goddaughter is cool though, from an early age she was given fleece hoodies and track suit bottoms and cosy stuff, she's into her basketball now09:02
czajkowskiand 5ft 10 she's pretty cool09:02
czajkowskigord: Rugb world cup rants09:02
gordahh09:03
MooDooczajkowski: that's tall for a girl09:03
czajkowskiMooDoo: her dad is 6 3 and her mum is 5 309:03
MooDooczajkowski: my number one son is expected to be any where between 6 and 7 ft :S  i hope it's the former09:04
oimonwow...7ft is mutant09:10
oimon;)09:10
oimondo they say that usually children are taller than the shortest parent?09:11
MooDoooimon: well my wife is 5'4 and i'm 6'6, he's already in 4/5 cloths and he's not even three yet...09:12
Hippychickwow MooDoo your tall! i was always estimated to be around 6ft, i was really tall when i was young, towered over everyone, but im only 5ft 609:15
MooDooHippychick: it's ok being tall but a pain, especially when i'm in a new building, door frames are usually 6'6 so when i'm wearing boots i'm a little taller and ouch :D09:16
MooDooonly time will tell :)09:16
oimoni was on the 99% on the weight chart as a child, now i'm underweight and can't put it on!09:16
* MooDoo hit 19 stone the other week :S09:17
oimoni'm half the man you are :-S09:19
MooDoooimon: my wife wishes i was sometimes lol09:20
oimonmeans i get tired a lot09:20
oimonmy body can't cope with missing a meal09:20
Hippychickoimon, you would hate my way of life! i often miss meals09:21
Hippychicksomtimes i dont eat for a couple of days09:21
MooDoooimon: yeah i have that problem, although if i exercise i get lots....when i was doing karate i had boundless, now i don't i'm a couch potatoe!09:21
MooDooHippychick: ouch09:21
oimonmy desk is full of munchies in case i get dizzy between meals09:22
bigcalmI get so engrossed in my work that I often forget to eat. Very rarely do I have breakfast either09:22
Hippychicki get sick and dizzy alot from it though09:22
diploAnd I used to think i was bad!09:22
diploWas 19'10 last year, now 13 1/2 / 14 stone09:23
* MartijnVdS lost 30kg in a year by running09:23
oimonHippychick: what's the longest you think you could go without eating?09:25
brobostigongood morning everyone.09:26
MooDoomorning brobostigon09:27
diploI sometimes go 2-3 days oimon, not so much recently... I Used to be like you09:27
brobostigonmorning MooDoo09:27
Hippychickoimon, im not sure to be honest, i think the longest so far is 2 days but im sure if i wanted/needed to i could push it longer09:28
Hippychickits mainly when im offsite for work and i cant bring my self to go for a lunch break or eat in a restaurant, its an anxiety trigger...09:29
MartijnVdSHippychick: http://www.pizza.co.uk/ ;)09:30
oimoni've got a wicked warm coat this year after the last 2 years of insufficient clothing. i think that guarantees a mild winter this year :-S09:32
Hippychickoimon, at least you will have a warm coat for when the big freeze eventually comes09:37
oimoni've jinxed it...won't happen this year :)09:37
Hippychickmaybe not this year but surely you coat will last more then 1 year?09:38
BigRedSespecially if you don't need it this year09:39
Hippychickat this rate im going to need a warmer coat, im already wearing my thickest one in the offive because im too cold09:40
oimonlol i had the heater on yesterday. my office is freezing from sep-april09:41
DJonesWe switched the heating on yesterday morning, then found out that water pressure in the central heating had dropped too low, one of the sales staff fiddled to increase the pressure, worked ok for 15 minutes before the boiler started leaking09:42
Hippychickunfortunatly we have constant air con all year round else my boss gets too hot09:44
DJonesHippychick: That'll be nice in summer, but not good the rest of the year09:44
DJonesForget that, its teh UK, what summer...09:44
BigRedSI've never understood that. Surely the temperature's pretty constant in an A/C environment09:45
HippychickBigRedS, yeah, constantly cold!!!09:45
oimonwhen i worked in the gherkin i sat underneath a faulty air con unit09:45
oimoni think we were the first people to use that floor. just before i left, it got fixed...2 years too late09:45
gordjust realised that i have no idea what the point of +1'ing things on google + is09:45
oimongord: it's a like button to show your other g+ friends09:46
gordthat doesn't explain what the point is09:46
Myrttiwell09:46
gordall it does is put "foo bar  +1'ed this post" underneath09:46
oimoni realise bad air con environment can be a major source of stress09:46
Myrttiif you consider that Google+ isn't a social network, then it starts making sense09:46
oimongord: while signed into google, some links show higher in search results because people in my circles +1 them09:47
Hippychickair con plays up with my sinisus and gives me headaches09:47
Myrtti+1 buttons are a way to combine a real person to the +1 buttons, and they show up higher... like oimon said09:47
oimoni found a guys launchpad page on the first page of google just because he +1'd it and was in my circles09:48
oimonwhen i searched for launchpad09:48
gordeh, i think google has enough statistics to know what website i wanted09:48
ali1234when i search while logged in on google it always shows my my own webpages09:48
ali1234which is dumb09:48
ali1234i already know about those09:48
Myrttigord: but it doesn't have the statistics of who are your friends09:48
Myrttiwell, didn't.09:48
Myrttinow it does09:48
gordyeah it did09:48
oimoni'm backing out of g+ slowly..09:49
gordit used to tell me what popey had linked to on twitter09:49
gordit was weird09:49
oimoni like today's t-shirt on http://shirt.woot.com/10:06
j0nrhey folks10:07
j0nrok, easy one...10:07
=== Gary is now known as evilGary
Hippychickeeep an evilGary *run, hide*10:09
j0nrI am trying to scp files from my home computer to remote server. I have setup keys, so when on the home computer it usually pops up a GUI box asking for key passphrase when I try using SSH via some GUI app. But if I try and do it via command line, what then?10:09
j0nrfor example, I am accessing my home computer remotely via ssh. then within an ssh session on my home computer I want to scp many files... but it keeps prompting me for my ssh password (home -> server) everytime10:09
j0nrI'm trying to run a batch script that iterates scp many times, but do not want to be prompted for password everytime10:11
BigRedSj0nr: it should prompt you for the key passphrase10:11
BigRedSyou'd need a passphraseless key in order to not be prompted10:11
j0nrBigRedS: it doesn't seem to10:11
BigRedSah, then it's not using the key10:11
BigRedSyou can do   ssh -i /path/to/key   to force it to use a particular key10:12
j0nrBigRedS: But if I am sitting on the machine, I get a GUI asking for password......10:12
evilGaryHippychick: mwhahaha10:12
BigRedSj0nr: the GUIs asking for the passphrase10:12
j0nrthen I can ssh in as many times as I want in that session without further prompting10:12
BigRedSfor the key. you don't get a gui prompt for the unix user password10:13
BigRedSthe DE then remembers the passphrase and enters it for you10:13
j0nrDE?10:13
BigRedSdesktop environment. Gnome or KDE or whatever10:13
BigRedSon a non-gui machine, though, there's nothing to remember that10:13
j0nroh. So am I not right in thinking, with no gui, if I want to perform multiple scp ops I have to enter password/phrase every time?10:14
j0nrbadly worded... I want to do mulitple scp operations without being prompted everytime10:14
j0nrhmm I could just do my scp with one command10:15
freakyclownlook at "yes" command10:15
dutchiesurely ssh-agent is the classic solutoin10:19
=== MichealH is now known as Supernova
BigRedSj0nr: if you have a key with no passphrase you shouldn't need to enter anything10:28
AlanBellif you have a passphrase key it should remember it for your session10:37
AlanBellthe bash script is probably spawning new sessions or something10:38
AlanBellnormally you can ssh somewhere, get prompted to unlock the key, then ssh somewhere else with no prompt10:39
czajkowskigah trying to review a site for asome comapny info, would it be wrong to say your site is confusing10:39
MartijnVdSlogin shell vs non-login-shell?10:41
=== MichealH is now known as defocus
=== defocus is now known as MichealH
Hippychickanyone going to the mini maker faire in brighton on saturday?10:51
oimonno but it sounds great10:51
czajkowskihttp://ticketing.southbankcentre.co.uk/find/music/gigs-contemporary/tickets/video-game-heroes-60710  London folks10:52
oimonHippychick: have you read cory doctorow's book Makers?10:53
Hippychickoimon, no i havent10:54
oimonit's a fictional book about reprap & other stuff10:54
Hippychickaha, to be honest im very anti reprap, but thats only because oly wants to take over the house with his!!10:55
oimonit's a free download :)10:57
matti:)11:02
ubuntuuk-planet[James Tait] A year at Canonical - http://voices.canonical.com/james.tait/2011/08/31/a-year-at-canonical/11:07
* MooDoo must really sort out mu domain names 11:41
DJonesMooDoo: I think www.babyphotos.co.uk might have been registered :)11:55
MooDooDJones: lol :) i've got a few linux.uk.com being the one i should do something with :d11:55
oimoni've never registered a domain :o12:03
oimonnever really saw the point12:04
ubuntuuk-planet[Laura Czajkowski] Ubuntu Global Jam in Ireland  3 of them! - http://www.lczajkowski.com/2011/08/31/ubuntu-global-jam-in-ireland-3-of-them/12:07
MooDooDJones: it's handy if you want to play with websites.....12:11
DJonesMooDoo: I have a website, its not really something that gets me wanting to do more though12:11
MooDoofair enough :)12:12
gordi have the best website. http://gordallott.com/12:12
oimoni guess i get all the playing out of my system at work12:12
MooDoogord: wow well poulated site ;)12:13
gordi no rite12:13
MooDoooimon: you'd think i would being in the webhosting industry lol12:13
oimonMooDoo: yes,  and i would expect you have a zillion domains12:14
MooDoooimon: a few, i could have more, it's just getting the ideas to use with them12:14
gordi mostly use my webspace as a place to put gifs i made, like http://gordallott.com/share/ohgodiwentanddiditbadly.gif (i refuse to explain the context - its more fun that way)12:15
MooDoogord: well at least i've given me someone new to follow on twitter :)12:15
DJonesThats a scarey .fig12:15
oimonbizarre12:15
DJoness//fig/gif12:15
oimonhmm finished my lunch;still hungry12:16
MooDoojust eating mine12:18
* TheOpenSourcerer just had a curry with a home grown Naga sprinkled on top :-D12:19
MooDooyum12:19
MooDoothese jalapeno's on my sarnie just don't cut it any more12:20
Hippychickim pondering what to have for lunch...12:26
* AlanBell has eggs on toast (with crushed chillies on top)12:27
AlanBellnot naga though12:27
* Hippychick doesnt do spicy food12:28
* MooDoo didn't until about a year ago now can't get enough12:29
Hippychickthe most i will have is a very mild curry, only a bit spicier then a korma12:30
MooDooHippychick: my wife only like korma12:33
Hippychickhmmm, seems i have been billed twice for internet this month :/12:34
MartijnVdSHippychick: it's a long month.. :)12:34
HippychickMartijnVdS its a long year :/12:35
MartijnVdSHippychick: no that's next year -- it's one day longer than this year ;)12:35
Hippychickbugger :(12:35
Hippychicki'll have to check with ukfsn when i get home, find out whats going on12:37
* TheOpenSourcerer boots a very whiny server...12:40
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: that's not nice, stop kicking it now ;)12:41
=== evilGary is now known as goodGary
=== goodGary is now known as Gary
daubersAfternoon12:59
MartijnVdS\o13:00
oimoni just received a genuine email from someone called jean-luc picard13:00
oimon:D13:00
MartijnVdSlies!13:00
oimonhe works at Dell13:01
Hippychickdo you think his parents were trekkies?13:01
MartijnVdSoimon: Captain of Enterprise Systems?13:01
oimonshould be13:02
MooDooMartijnVdS: Hippychick well at least when he was a kid and ripped his clothes he could walk up to mum, point at hole and "make it sew" ;)13:02
oimonor just french13:03
HippychickMooDoo, thats lost on me, ibe never really seen star trek13:03
MartijnVdSMooDoo: and "Engage" to a girlfriend?13:03
Hippychicki only recognise the name13:03
oimonmy wife watches it. i regard it as a soap opera13:03
MooDooHippychick: sorry :)  he says "make it so" a lot in the program13:04
Hippychickahh lol13:04
directhexnext generation fails at the "long story arcs" requirement of soap operas.13:05
MooDoodirecthex: better than enterprise...*spit*13:05
directhex"A crucial element that defines soap opera is the open-ended nature of the narrative, with stories spanning several episodes. The defining feature that makes a television program a soap opera, according to Albert Moran, is "that form of television that works with a continuous open narrative. Each episode ends with a promise that the storyline is to be continued in another episode"." - ds9 and voyager, fair enough13:06
oimoni'm just surprised so many men watch it13:07
ikonia-remoteMMMmmm Startrek13:07
ikonia-remotedirecthex: TNG does not fail13:07
MooDoomy god this channel is like watching an episode of The Bing Bang Theory sometimes...:D13:08
directhexikonia-remote, it's not a soap opera. with a couple of brief Q-based exceptions, the order you watch the episodes in doesn't matter13:08
HippychickMooDoo, never seen it...13:09
MooDooHippychick: raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa13:09
MooDoo:D13:09
oimonthey put a token character with massive boobs in it for the middle-aged men to ogle at13:09
MartijnVdSbarbarians at the gate! :)13:09
MooDoooimon: and? lol13:09
ikonia-remotedirecthex: not true, there are some pretty important ones13:09
ikonia-remotedirecthex: drumhead for example refernces a few important episdoes13:10
ikonia-remotethe best of both worlds is a key 2 parter that has referenced, and as you say the Q introduction to the borg earlier is a long term story13:10
ikonia-remotechain of command two parter has implications for the last season as a lot of what happens there is important to the intorduction of the cardasian stories, that spill also into DS913:11
directhexbut as a series, you cannot expect a cliffhanger. there's about a series' worth of continuity, in 7 seasons total13:11
ikonia-remoteseasons 1 + 2 - just individual episodes....2......so sad with season 2, season 3 they start to introduce long term history and background, season 4 - 5 starts some long term story plants, seasons 6 - 7 that's where it all ties up13:12
oimonlol this all started because JLP emailed me13:12
ikonia-remoteyou could say that season 4 onwards introducts very loose cliff hangers to be tied up in seasons 6 and 713:12
ikonia-remotethe one that is super sloppy is the limitation of warp speed due to the effects it has on space and the fact that star fleet limit it's use to warp 5 and lower, yet no-one seems to remember this in later series such as DS9 or the films.....13:13
ikonia-remotesloppy Rick Berman....sloppy13:13
MartijnVdSikonia-remote: that's because it's WAR13:13
MartijnVdSikonia-remote: </handwave>13:14
directhexikonia-remote, don't forget the terrible "backwards evolution" episode of voyager, w/ warp 1013:14
MartijnVdSdirecthex: don't worry, the producers prefer to forget that one too :)13:14
ikonia-remoteMartijnVdS: war didn't kick off in DS9 until season 413:14
ikonia-remotedirecthex: don't remind me......13:14
ikonia-remotefor a universe that does so much to hold things together across series and not break the rules, it makes some sloppy mistakes13:15
ikonia-remotestill an amazing universe to set some great stories13:15
directhexnow, babylon 5, there's a real space opera13:15
ikonia-remoteNO !13:15
ikonia-remote</discussion>13:15
ikonia-remoteI never gave it a fair chance though, due to the first series13:16
* MooDoo thinks he'll stick with Falling skies :)13:16
DJonesMooDoo: Did you ever watch Jericho? that seems very mutch like falling skies13:16
directhexikonia-remote, babylon 5 is an 88 episode story arc, followed by a rushed 22 episode story arc. with a couple of spots in the middle13:17
MooDooDJones: i think i watched a few yes.....might have to try watching it all again13:17
directhexand the second to last episode is really dire13:17
DJonesMooDoo: The music in falling skies seems to have been nicked from Jericho13:18
MooDooDJones: same director?13:18
DJonesnot sure13:18
* daubers has been recently tempted by the rereleased farscape boxset13:19
Hippychickdaubers, i loved farscape13:20
ikonia-remotedirecthex: I may give it more of a chance13:20
Hippychickit has one of my fave qoutes in 'bill gates cant guarentee windows, how are you going to guarentee my saftey'13:21
daubersheh :)13:22
gordtried re-watching all the farscapes a few months back, its not possible to make it through the season where they introduce the annoying screaming red-headed girl :(13:24
iceflatlinegord: I completely agree. that's where I stopped :)13:30
ikonia-remotesounds like I need to avoid farscape13:31
gordwell no, when its good its pretty good13:31
gordbut half the episodes are bad13:31
freakyclownim watching the entire thing for the first time13:31
iceflatline...or fast forward through *.redheads.13:31
daubersI just remember the episode where krypton reprogrammed the little robots to play the 1812 overture13:33
gordlistening to japanese funk versions of classical music, life turned out precisely how i expected it to as a kid.13:44
ikonia-remotegord: that's made me chuckle13:55
MyrttiI listen to piano versions of Radiohead13:56
bigcalmSlightly less depressing that way13:57
ikonia-remotethere is a string quartet version of Guns and Roses use your illusion albums, it's excellent13:57
ikonia-remoteand I've got a piano and string quartet version of a musician I like that's very good13:57
TheOpenSourcererlol: http://seldo.tumblr.com/post/9549775746/this-is-genuinely-microsofts-idea-of-a14:10
TheOpenSourcererAny UX dudes should read this ^--^14:10
MooDoomore people whining about the new UI in windows 8 :)14:14
directhexMooDoo, the problem is it's a self-parody.14:26
daubers"We did all this research then made conclusions that suited our purpose, ignoring the actual results of the research"14:30
MooDoo:)14:30
daubersSurprised it wasn't a government ICT project14:31
directhexhttp://blogs.msdn.com/cfs-filesystemfile.ashx/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-01-29-43-metablogapi/8816.Figure-10-_2D00_-Home-tab-usage-heatmap_5F00_2.png is the canonical example14:31
directhex"new item" is 6x more used than "new folder", but the icon is half the size14:31
directhexand they're proud about the default toolbar containing 84% most used items. but the top 10 items cover 81.8% - meaning 50% of the real estate (everything in that link above without a purple border) accounts for 2.2% of usage14:32
directhexthat is moronic14:32
daubersBeen ages since I listened to the beautiful south14:48
Hippychickdaubers, i was listening to them the other day14:54
daubers:)15:04
seekerdaubers: What beautiful south stuff are you listening to?15:07
daubersseeker:  Found my copy of Blue is the Colour, so just sat listening to that15:09
seekerCool15:11
daubers"Little Blue" used to be one of those songs that I'd listen to over and over and over15:11
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oimonaaaargh my eyes! i just saw the win8 post15:47
DJones /me offers oimon some eye bleach15:49
oimonsurely it's a joke, right?15:50
MooDoolol nutters15:50
oimonthey win for the crazy idea of the year..even more funny than gnome3 ideas15:50
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HazRPGMartijnVdS: :o http://www.youtube.com/cosmicpanda16:34
HazRPGit looks so much nicer than standard youtube!16:35
HazRPG(its from the TestTube - ala YouTube labs)16:35
bigcalm!ping17:01
lubotu3another contentless ping... sigh...17:01
HazRPGpong!17:02
bigcalm!ping17:06
lubotu3another contentless ping... sigh...17:06
* bigcalm slaps VM17:07
HazRPGpong!17:07
ubuntuuk-planet[Tony] Ubuntu Membership - http://tonywhitmore.co.uk/blog/2011/08/31/ubuntu-membership/17:07
HazRPG^_^17:07
bigcalmHello HazRPG17:07
kirrusbigcalm: Vacant Mouse? :P17:07
ikonia_why did the bot announce that ?17:07
bigcalmkirrus: maybe that's why my cable connection is iffy17:08
kirrusheh17:08
bigcalmikonia_: it shouldn't have?17:08
HazRPGhi bigcalm :)17:10
ikonia_don't know, I just wondered why it did17:11
Myrttiikonia_: it's done that for years17:15
bigcalmAnd yet we don't know why ;)17:16
ikonia_what's the trigger I mean17:16
ikonia_what caused it17:16
bigcalmikonia_: http://planet.ubuntu-uk.org/17:16
Myrttiikonia_: nothing? it checks the Ubuntu UK planet and announces new blogposts when they appear17:16
ikonia_ah, so a new blog post was the trigger17:17
mgdmikonia_: it's an RSS to IRC type thing17:20
ikonia_I see17:21
diploevening all17:43
ikonia_evening17:46
Myrttiaw, I saw someone in twitter mentioning a social media app and I looked it up and it looked interesting, but now I've forgotten the name of it :-< I thought it was tonytiger that mentioned it but it looks like it wasn't17:58
MyrttiI wish my memory weren't so selective17:58
MartijnVdSHazRPG: it does.. also, the panda reminds me of flickr :P18:16
MartijnVdSHazRPG: http://www.flickr.com/explore/panda18:16
Myrttimeh18:38
Myrttimy prepaid UK phone number has started getting spam texts :-(18:38
MyrttiI'm not a happy bunny18:38
mgdmI'm getting some as well18:39
mgdmmore, of late18:39
MartijnVdSaren't spam texts regulated/forbidden in the UK?18:39
MartijnVdSThey are in .nl -- I can get you a Dutch prepaid SIM if you want :)18:40
ali1234yes18:40
MartijnVdSali1234: "yes, they aren't"?18:41
ali1234no they is18:41
MartijnVdSali1234: or "yes, they are, but spammers don't care"18:41
AlanBellhttp://www.kolbisneat.com/spaceoddity.htm how cool is that!19:01
MartijnVdSali1234: is that the comic strip version?19:01
MartijnVdSuhr AlanBell19:01
AlanBellchildrens book version19:01
MartijnVdSyeah it's amazing.. next up: Peter Schilling's follow-up song? :)19:03
MartijnVdS(Major Tom - Coming Home)19:04
MartijnVdShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Tom_(Coming_Home)19:04
ubuntuuk-planet[Ubuntu UK Podcast] S04E14  Revelations - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2011/08/31/s04e14-revelations/19:07
MartijnVdSGah! So many podcasts.. I'm trying to listen to an audio book people19:07
MartijnVdS(ok, 7 of them)19:07
AlanBelloffspring wants this as a first camera/camcorder http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5635535.htm?CMPID=GS001&_$ja=tsid:11527|cc:|prd:5635535|cat:photography+%2F+camcorders+and+accessories+%2F+camcorders+%2F19:55
AlanBellcheap and cheerful, too cheap?19:55
MartijnVdSVivitar used to make cheap film cameras19:56
MartijnVdSit won't be HD :)19:56
AlanBellit is HD19:56
AlanBell720p19:56
Myrttiaw, that url is so fail :-(19:56
MartijnVdSyeah 720p and shaky on horizontal pans :)19:56
MartijnVdSmy 1080p camera gives very wobbly image on horizontal pans19:57
AlanBellhttp://bit.ly/pHs5Oa19:57
MartijnVdSAlanBell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONE3uS8uaWk for example19:57
MartijnVdSAlanBell: it won't be completely bad, but it won't be amazing either19:58
AlanBellthat is pretty acceptable19:58
AlanBellit also does 8MP stills19:58
MartijnVdSAlanBell: I have one of these (never use it..) http://camcorder.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL028582&pathId=58&page=1019:58
AlanBellshe initially wanted a camera but then we figured for about the same price as a camera that can do a bit of video you can get a camcorder that can do stills19:59
AlanBelland it is red20:00
MartijnVdSAlanBell: A cheap Canon Ixus is usually better than this though20:00
MartijnVdSAlanBell: and they come in PINK20:00
AlanBellcheap Ixus???20:00
MartijnVdSAlanBell: yes.. not THAT cheap, mind20:01
MartijnVdSbut not much more expensive20:01
MartijnVdSAlanBell: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fuji-FinePix-AV110-Digital-Camera/dp/B0043L2QS620:01
MartijnVdSAlanBell: old model Fuji Finepix, in pink :)20:01
MartijnVdSAlanBell: £5520:02
MartijnVdSNot a Canon Ixus, but close enough :)20:02
AlanBellI think that is the camera she was looking at initially20:02
MartijnVdSit does HD video as well20:02
AlanBellIxus looks to be £130+20:02
MartijnVdSyeah I see it :(20:02
MartijnVdSI never use my HD camcorder thingy20:03
MartijnVdSI'm more a photo person20:03
MartijnVdSAlanBell: anyway.. £5 price diff for Vivitar vs Fuji, I'd go for Fuji :)20:04
AlanBellyeah, I find my camcorder does decent pictures (good carl zeis lens) but my camera does rubbish video20:04
MartijnVdSIf I ever get money again, I'm buying a new SLR body that does 1080p vidoe20:05
MartijnVdSvideo*20:05
MartijnVdSBecause I already have the lenses and everything20:05
gordmy camera does good video but its pictures aren't as nice =\20:06
MartijnVdSI once lent my old SLR body (+ a lens) to my 10-year old cousin - he had lots of fun exploring the features :)20:08
AlanBellI once lent my compact camera to my cousin (aged 10ish) at the end of a wedding20:08
AlanBellhe snapped loads of pictures, then to be nice deleted them all . . .20:09
MartijnVdSawww :)20:09
AlanBelldelete all wasn't what I wanted him to do at that point20:09
AlanBellhowever the bride and groom in question are now divorced so nothing of value was lost!20:09
MartijnVdS:)20:10
MartijnVdSTime for zzzs20:11
MartijnVdS\o20:11
AlanBello/20:11
diploevening guys20:30
diploHaving a totally dumb evening20:30
diplohttp://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/12007020:30
diploWant to use same structure from {line} in the $to field20:31
diploSomeone enlighten me before I cry, something so simple and I can't think20:31
james_wdiplo, you mean you want to add ${line} to the path in ${to}20:34
james_w?20:34
diployeah20:34
diploBasically copy files from a nas box to a usb hdd20:34
diploAnd want structure from nas to go on usb20:34
james_wcp "${line}" "${to}/${line}"20:34
diploSure I just did that20:34
* diplo trys again20:34
diploTa20:34
james_wbut you likely are going to need a mkdir too20:34
diplocp -R ? Wouldn't that recreate dirs ?20:35
james_wand I don't know if rsync has a mode to take filenames from a file20:35
diploooooh20:35
james_wif you try and copy a/b/c and a/b/ doesn't exist on the target it will error20:35
james_wso you would need a mkdir target/a/b/ first20:35
diploActually need to take input from this text file20:35
diploI might just copy and not worry about structure, only a few hundred files20:36
diploCould sort it out after20:36
james_wrsync --files-from=filename.txt20:36
james_wthat might be a better basis to work from20:36
diploOooh, good thinking20:36
* diplo checks rsync is on box20:36
diploSee told you i wasn't doing well this morning20:37
diploevening*!!!!!!20:37
james_wrsync -vva --files-from=filename.txt $to20:37
diplolol I ought to give up already20:37
james_wor something20:37
james_wI've only used rsync once :-)20:37
diploI use it all the time, just having a blond evening!20:37
diploSeems to be doing it james_w thanks!20:45
diploCopying first file now, structure has already been created20:45
diploTotally didn't think about rsync :/20:46
diploquiet in here tonight21:04
ikonia-remoteyes21:05
diploSuppose I'll see if anything good on TV21:06
directhexwell i've built a libvorbis for webos. but glib is not cooperating21:10
ikonia-remotenot bad21:10
popeymoo21:14
* popey is online from a field again21:14
diplolol, is that so the wife doesn't see you doing it ?21:15
popeyheh21:16
popeyif she looked out the window she'd see21:16
popeyits the only place I can get reception on my dongle21:16
diplo:(21:17
diploExtension lead with your router :)21:17
popeyi wish :D21:20
popey50 yds or so21:20
diploOh :/ - Anyhoo nice holiday ?21:20
popeyyeah21:21
popeylovely clear nigt21:21
ikonia-remotewhen are you back ?21:22
popeysaturday21:22
ikonia-remotefew days left then, nice21:23
diploOld school tonight, listening to Cinderella.. it's great better than telly!21:32
popeyright, podcast downloaded, off to listen in bed21:33
popeynn all21:33
diplogn popey21:34
AlanBello/21:37
diploevening21:37
bigcalmI'm missing out on the chatter by working late yet again21:37
bigcalmHi kids21:37
diplodead in here bigcalm, not missing much21:38
* bigcalm ponders putting his laptop on the windowsill and using synergy for a 5 screen desktop21:39
bigcalmI like being silly21:39
bigcalmThough, while the HTML Validator plugin for FireFox doesn't work on any of my Linux systems, it'll have to be used on the laptop booted into windows :S21:40
diploheh, keep meaning to give synergy another try21:40
diplonot tried it in years21:40
bigcalmI can't live without it21:40
diploI use mine ALL the time21:40
bigcalmWorks flawlessly between Linux, Windows & Mac21:40
marslingive just got a new 2TB drive, ive formatted to XFS, and it doesnt seem to auto-mount, can someoen help me ?22:04
bigcalmDo you have the 'auto' option in the fstab line?22:04
ubuntuuk-planet[Alan Bell] Going dotty - http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/08/31/going-dotty/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=going-dotty22:07
bigcalm!msg | marsling22:08
lubotu3marsling: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.22:09
bigcalm...22:09
bigcalmhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/113834766641843352499/posts/ZfAXJ1PDpWz22:26
buzz_hi22:35
bigcalmSleep time22:39
buzz_noo22:41
buzz_sleep is bad22:41
psuttonlol22:41
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zleapcoffee is good if sleep is bad then22:42
buzz_http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/2422282465_e000f55c3e.jpg is good22:43
buzz_*burp*22:43
zleapthat looks familar22:43
buzz_cracking beer that22:43
zleapdevon real ail perhaps22:43
buzz_yorkshire22:44
zleapah22:44
zleapsorry22:44
buzz_well i just got it from me local supermarket of course. daan souf22:44
zleapk22:48

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