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snap-lEvening01:51
jjessethat it is01:53
_stink_yo02:09
snap-lOK, so I'm thinking about applying for Ubuntu Membership02:20
greg-gsnap-l: you got my vote02:44
snap-lgreg-g: Thanks. :)02:44
greg-gI mean, I can't say that officially, given I'll be on the review board for you, but, I mean, you're active enough :)02:44
snap-lheh, I mentioned to Laura Czamumblemumblemumbleski that the process seemed intimidating02:45
snap-lShe was discussing with Amber Grainer02:45
snap-lso I guess I'll put my money where my mouth is and see just how intimidating it is.02:46
greg-gheheh, yeah, Laura Czamumblemumbleski :)02:46
snap-lGood morning11:49
Wolfgerso far11:50
brouschgreat. way to jinx it11:52
snap-lJust saw a possum in the back yar carrying her young on her back12:19
Wolfgercool12:21
Wolfgerexcept for the fact that possums are nasty creatures...12:21
snap-lMeh, they're cute in their own way.12:24
brouschgiant rats12:24
Wolfgeroh, they're cute12:25
Wolfgeryou just don't want to run into one in a dark alley12:25
WolfgerI'm pretty sure it was a possum that ripped up my cat's ears, back when I lived in Mount Clemens12:26
snap-lshe just trundled back behind our garage12:27
snap-lshe has four young, it looks like, with the one in the back hanging on for dear life.12:27
snap-lhttp://file.status.net/i/identica/snapl-20110831T122528-gducyjp.png12:28
Wolfgerd'awwww12:28
rick_h_snap-l: you set for CHC?12:29
snap-lrick_h_: I think so12:29
snap-lI have several bckup plans12:29
rick_h_ok, I'll reimburse you for the card when I get there12:29
snap-lNo worries. I got paid today.12:29
snap-l'sall good12:30
snap-lI'll just shake everyone down for coffee money12:30
snap-lWolfger: JoDee just looked up what possums eat12:37
snap-lslugs, snails, cockroaches, bugs, and rats12:38
snap-lI would say they're pretty hardcore to eat rats.12:38
snap-lalso they like fruit.12:38
brouschthey eat garbage12:39
snap-l(probably to wash down the taste of rat)12:39
brouschand will kick your ass12:39
snap-lWell, if you can walk around with four babies on your back, you'd be a little temperamental12:40
Wolfgerpoint12:44
snap-lI still think it's funny that my corporate token is named "Safe Word (tm)"13:05
snap-lThat's because I'm clearly 12 years old13:05
WolfgerMan, who does this Craig guy think he is, changing our LoCo wiki page? :-p13:06
Wolfger"Safe Word (tm)" is an odd name for a product that wants to be taken seriously....13:07
brouschsnap-l: or you're into S&M13:07
Wolfgeris "or" the proper conjunction?13:08
snap-lhar har13:18
snap-lColonelPanic001: We should really get you some more exposure for the downriver CHC13:31
ColonelPanic001meh, I just figure there's not many of those sorts in Downriver13:31
snap-lI think it would be good to put it on the events calendar.13:31
snap-lhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-michigan/events13:32
ColonelPanic001I'm certainly not going to complain13:32
ColonelPanic001how does i add event?13:32
snap-lAre you logged in?13:32
ColonelPanic001in progress. heh. I'll figure it out. Probably13:33
ColonelPanic001ah, yeah, there's an "add new event"13:33
ColonelPanic001this is hard13:33
snap-lheh13:33
ColonelPanic001is there a repeating event thing, or just manually make them?13:33
snap-lManual, unfortunately.13:33
snap-lBut you can copy an event13:34
ColonelPanic001that's not so bad13:34
ColonelPanic001this time picker widget is NUTS13:34
ColonelPanic001I like it, but I've never seen one like that13:36
rick_h_Reminder krondor waldo323_ Blazeix widox etc that CHC is tonight 7pm early edition13:36
rick_h_still at the new location13:37
ColonelPanic001spammar13:37
rick_h_ColonelPanic001: damn skippy!13:37
ColonelPanic001Dan and I should come out to your guys' CHC sometime, just for fun, and to see one with more than two people13:38
rick_h_you should get spammy and get more people :P13:38
ColonelPanic001well, we have three sometimes, when my gf comes along for the coffee.13:38
ColonelPanic001THERE ARE NO PEOPLE IN DOWNRIVER13:38
ColonelPanic001We are a simple folk down here13:38
rick_h_lol13:38
ColonelPanic001computers mystify and confuse us13:38
ColonelPanic001I was seriously surprisd when I met Dan, and Flav told me he was from Downriver13:39
Wolfgerwhen/where is downriver?13:47
brouschnew orleans?13:48
ColonelPanic0018pm, The Grind in Wyandotte13:55
ColonelPanic001http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-michigan/1250/detail/13:55
ColonelPanic001I maded a event13:55
Wolfgersame night as the other CHC?14:15
Wolfgerthere's your problem.... ;-)14:15
WolfgerYou need to change nights to attract all the code addicts that currently go to the other one14:17
ColonelPanic001:P14:17
ColonelPanic001the guy I emailed about starting it suggested against that, actually. That was my original thought14:18
ColonelPanic001I didn't expect most people to drive 45 minutes to come to it anyway, though14:18
Wolfgerin SCA, there are fight practices in different locations, almost always on different nights, and the hard core guys will be in Detroit on Tuesday, then Sarnia on Wednesday, Warren on Sunday....14:20
WolfgerI find it difficult to believe there's more people willing to drive distances to get hit in the head with a stick than there are people willing to drive distances to drink and code.14:21
ColonelPanic001haha14:21
ColonelPanic001you make a good point14:21
ColonelPanic001meh, maybe we'll try moving it sometime. I'll see what Dan thinks, since we're both essentially 50% of Downriver CHC :P14:22
WolfgerI, sadly, am not terribly willing to drive distances anymore :-p14:22
ColonelPanic001YOU SEE?!14:22
Wolfgerbut if I wind up working in Trenton again, that Wyandotte CHC is right on my way home.14:23
Wolfger...if I hang around and do nothing downriver for 5 hours waiting for it to start :-p14:23
WolfgerSorry. I'm trying to be helpful. Doesn't seem like I'm succeeding fabulously.14:24
brouschdamn fools are calling and complaining to me because they can't download a 4MB attachment we sent to them14:28
brousch"it's 3700 kilobites. that's way too big"14:29
krondorrick_h_:  I plan on attending :)14:29
rick_h_krondor: awesome!14:30
snap-lI need a sanity check14:43
snap-lhttp://oreilly.com/catalog/9781449314118/14:43
snap-lHalf-off today.14:43
snap-lShould I add this to the half-read list of C books that already decorate my shelves?14:44
brouschC? who needs C?14:45
brouschpure python d00d14:45
Blazeixthat cover design is like something i'd make. "hm, Head First C... how should we decorate the cover? I know! A gigantic head!"14:47
Blazeix"we can put purple clip art in orbit around it!"14:47
snap-lYeah, I don't like their covers at all14:47
snap-lAnd it's a head-first book, so it treads the line between informative and annoying14:48
Wolfgersnap-l: I thought about getting it, then I thought about the 2 C books I have at home that I never got through...14:53
Wolfgerthat's the allure of "50% off!!!"14:54
Wolfgerplus, it's a pre-release copy, so... there will be bugs for you to find. :-)14:54
brouschbuffer overflows in a C book might give you a stroke14:57
WolfgerThat's an interesting new spam.... "You have 1 lost message on Facebook"15:00
WolfgerIf it's lost, how can I have it?15:00
WolfgerIf I have it, it's not lost.15:00
WolfgerI'm not sure what's sadder... the fact that spammers think we're all morons, or the fact that enough people *are* morons that spammers keep at it.15:01
_stink_the latter15:02
jrwrenrick_h_: did you consider bringing the boy on Saturday?15:08
rick_h_jrwren: no, don't think so15:08
rick_h_he'd destroy the office15:09
rick_h_20mo is as dangerous time lol15:09
_stink_hah15:09
jrwrennah, my kiddo will keep him in check.15:09
snap-lThoughts on this as a business card for OLF? http://ubuntuone.com/3Sp9xnHYssV0knzMAh4tPU15:16
brouschthings are not lined up quite right15:20
brouschgiant white space, or is that where your name goes?15:20
snap-lI don't have much else to put in there, save for the mailing list.15:22
Blazeixlooks nice, but i agree with brousch that the text should be left aligned. Maybe you could move the "Ubuntu Michigan Loco" text up to fill the void.15:23
BlazeixI really like that orange and black logo.15:24
brouschthanks15:25
snap-lYeah, I'll do that15:25
Blazeixon my current monitor (which isn't very good) it looks like you have two different shades of orange.15:25
snap-lThey are.15:26
brouschhm, i think i used ubuntu official orange15:27
Blazeixok, I'd make the smaller logo the same color as the larger logo.15:27
Blazeixthe smaller logo seems kind of washed out15:27
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/3Sp9xnHYssV0knzMAh4tPU15:28
brouschwell they should both be using the ubuntu orange15:28
snap-lAlso, the .svg if someone wants to take a crack at it. ;) http://ubuntuone.com/5CjfgTVyJMhkTF9aiUp5ld15:28
snap-lI got the logo from jacob Peddicord's business card template.15:29
snap-lthe others use the Aubergine background15:29
snap-lwhich would be fine if we didn't have the black circle of friends15:29
brouschwhat if you just remove the upper ubuntu and logo15:31
brouschmake it just an ubuntu michigan card15:31
snap-lThat's fine too15:31
BlazeixI'd love to take a crack at it, but I'm stuck in windows-land right now. Would it be too late to play around with it at CHC?15:32
brouschBlazeix: inkscape runs on windows ;)15:33
snap-lre-uploading15:34
brouschug, my hard drive is being a pokey little bitch today15:34
snap-lBlazeix: If you want, I can wait a little bit15:34
Blazeixbrousch: yeah, but that'd require installing it :)15:34
snap-lwanted to float it by the loco council just to make sure they're OK with it as well15:34
_stink_snap-l: use the ubuntu software center header as your card's background.15:34
BlazeixI already have it installed on linux15:35
snap-l_stink_: Yeah, that would ROCK15:35
Blazeix_stink_: haha15:35
_stink_o/15:35
brouschsnap-l: did you modify it since 11:28:34?15:36
ColonelPanic001Wolfger: I've heard that there's a form of fencing gaining popularity in Europe that doesn't use foils/rapiers/etc, and instead some other kind of medievel sword, more of a cutting sword than thrust. Any idea? I'm trying to find the name of it15:37
ColonelPanic001thought with you doing SCA/etc, you might know15:37
snap-lbrousch: I did15:37
snap-lGod, that is annoying15:38
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/1bhFyTox2dEw71YLJWj8Ct15:40
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/7CJoxu5fH6XtXwboIhE7nI15:40
snap-lI just made a QR code15:49
WolfgerColonelPanic001: Sabre?15:52
Wolfgertrying to remember the other fencing sword I know of... can't quite think of it15:53
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/5M79pXHbcV18Knz2suInqp <- qr code15:53
Wolfgersnap-l: I just don't like Michigan being orange...15:54
snap-lsuck it. :)15:54
Wolfgerit should be State of Michigan blue, or great lake blue, or christmas tree green15:54
Wolfgerorange is the Ubuntu color... the circle of friends should be orange15:55
Wolfger:-p15:55
Wolfger<twitch> QR code? </twitch>15:56
jrwrenbacking up over a VPN is probably not a good idea.15:59
brouschhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/blr-ubuntumi-card-1.png16:07
snap-lbrousch: Oh, I like!16:09
snap-lGet me a PDF of that, please.16:09
brouschhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/ubuntumi-card.svg16:09
jcastrooh I need a smaller one16:09
jcastroone sec16:09
brouschexport the page to the size you need16:10
jcastrohttp://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1089/community-promotion-ads-1h-201116:10
jcastromake a 220x25016:10
snap-lbrousch: I'm going to add this QR code to it, if you don't mind.16:10
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/4iNOElrQMzvLyMi4N5GiOr16:10
brouschsnap-l: go for it16:10
brouschi gotta get lunch. bbl16:10
snap-lbrousch: Thanks!16:11
snap-lInteresting, I don't have that font.16:12
jrwrenok, my perl-fu is old and weak, i need help reading a regex.16:17
jrwren$blah =~ s/((?>[^\\"]*(?:\\.[^\\"]*)*))/;16:18
jrwrenis the \\" there just escaping the " ?16:18
snap-lDamnit, I don't have the same font16:18
jrwrenor is [^\\"] really saying a char class of \ and " ? ?16:18
jrwrenhehe, devinheitmueller I just asked a nice perl re question that you probably know the answer.16:19
jrwrenbut having read it more, I think i'm wrong.16:19
snap-llunch. brb16:20
* devinheitmueller looks at the logs....16:20
devinheitmuellerso much for that idea.  Apparently ubuntu logs don't track realtime.16:20
Blazeixdevinheitmueller: http://vpaste.net/NV39L16:26
devinheitmuellerI'm pretty sure it's just escaping the quote.16:26
devinheitmuellerThat said, you should be able to test that in about 30 seconds with a perl -e.16:27
devinheitmuellerOh wait, don't use a perl -e.  Write a 2 line perl script.  That will avoid the shell from interfering with the regex.16:27
snap-ldevinheitmueller: Are you still coming to pick me up tonight?16:38
devinheitmuellerSure, np.16:38
snap-lCool, thanks. :)16:39
devinheitmuellerWill pick you up at 7:45pm.16:40
snap-ldevinheitmueller: Tonight is early edition16:41
devinheitmuellerOh wait, is this the 7pm?16:41
snap-lso 6:45pm would be preferable.16:41
devinheitmuellerYeah, ok.  6:45 then.16:41
snap-lshould I dress up ? ;)16:41
Wolfgerjrwren: shouldn't [^\\"] be a single character which is either ^ or \ or "16:41
devinheitmuellerBusiness casual.16:41
jrwrenWolfger: [^ is a "NOT" char class16:41
snap-lbrousch: I think you gave me an older file16:42
jrwren[^ab] <- character class for all chars that are not a or b16:42
Wolfgerah, right16:43
WolfgerI knew it wasn't "begining of line" within the brackets....16:43
snap-lbrousch: If you would work your magic on this, I'll convert it and ship it16:43
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/6hp9Zur1CGQWkUTavShg6216:43
snap-lbrousch: I added the SVG of the 3D MI logo to it16:43
jrwrenmakes me sad that my perl is so weak now.16:44
jrwreni don't see why I'd need to escape " in a // block16:44
jrwrenand especially don't knwo why I'd need to escape teh escape char in the // block leading to /\\"/16:44
Wolfgerand isn't that expression missing a /?16:44
Wolfgerit identifies what's to be matched, but not what the substitution is16:45
jrwrenyes.16:48
jrwreni should have used m//16:48
brouschsnap-l: you probably don't have the ubuntu fonts installed17:06
brouschsudo apt-get install ttf-ubuntu-title ttf-ubuntu-font-family17:06
snap-lbrousch: Right, but the text isn't the same17:14
brouschhm17:14
brouschi wonder if they changed it from 10.04 to 11.04?17:15
snap-lNo, I mean the actual text17:15
snap-lyou changed the order of the text, but that wasn't in the .svg you sent along17:15
snap-lAnd yes, I was missing ubuntu-title17:16
brouschinteresting17:17
brouschhow much can i shrink the qrcode before it's unusable?17:18
brouschhey, a lot of places put the qrcode on the back of the card17:18
snap-lI think I can print them on the back17:19
snap-lThat's a good idea17:19
jrwreni confirmed \\ is matching \ JFYI17:20
jrwrenfinally figuring this out. *sigh*17:20
snap-lbrousch: http://ubuntuone.com/6hp9Zur1CGQWkUTavShg6217:24
snap-lPDF: http://ubuntuone.com/5oMNhymeAAgG9mXaPgC4gO17:25
brouschhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/101667/blr-ubuntumi-card-1.png17:25
brouschyou like that font better than the ubuntu fonts?17:26
brouschthe one you used?17:26
snap-lbrousch: eh?17:28
brouschthe pdf looks good, but the first one you linked to has funky fonts for me17:28
brouschi must not have that font17:28
brouschi'm guessing ubuntu mucked with the fonts between 10.04 and 11.0417:29
snap-lLet me show you what vistaprint shows17:29
brouschi like your pdf where the whole head stays in17:29
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/3AbG9pvyWLkyRq4A5y3wDn17:29
brouschdoes the dotted line me that will not be prined?17:30
snap-lI'm not sure17:30
snap-lI hope not.17:31
brouschi like it other than the dotted line thing17:31
brouschlooks really good17:32
snap-lThanks.17:35
snap-lI put a QR code on the back17:35
snap-lThanks for your help! that design really did the trick17:35
brouschnp, glad i could help17:36
snap-lhttp://ubuntuone.com/6wNy6AMch7owJ9UpDp1Cur <- here's the proof17:36
brouschlooks like it cut off a tiny bit17:39
brouschpretty good though17:39
snap-lGod damn, Vistaprint is a pain in the ass17:46
snap-ltries to upsell you on everything17:46
brouschhehe17:48
brouschthe godaddy of business cards17:48
snap-lOh yeah.17:49
waldo323_can you get stickers with just the bar code?18:23
snap-lI could, but I wanted to get some cards or something like that18:24
waldo323_right i mean as well as, or what about window clings :)18:24
snap-lYou're free to make them if you want. :)18:25
snap-lI got a thousand cards to hand out at the booth18:25
snap-lhttp://www.meijer.com/s/big-steals/_/N-5io?CAWELAID=677385714&cmpid=dswed18:55
snap-lMan, I lost a bunch of MP3s with that hard drive crash18:56
snap-lAnd thanks to Amazon, I can't re-download them.18:57
brouschdoh19:00
rick_h_huh? how come thanks to amazon? I thought you ripped them?19:00
snap-lI bought some from Amazon19:01
snap-lbut I forgot to put all of them into my "purchased music" folder.19:01
snap-lwhich would have been backed up19:01
snap-lrealizing that I'm missing a few of them.19:02
snap-lStuff like Combichrist's "What the fuck is wrong with you people"19:02
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse
jrwrenanyone want a MF printer for free?  OfficeJet something or another.20:31
gamerchick02http://gamerchick02.tumblr.com/post/9637330468/hello-i-am-the-one-with-the-graphic-you-just-reblogged i'm pleased with myself. I think i explained creative commons pretty well to that guy.20:55
snap-lgamerchick02: That's the gist.20:58
gamerchick02:)20:58
gamerchick02i also did the links in there so he can get more info.20:58
gamerchick02it was funny, because as it stood, nobody had the right to redistribute his work.20:59
Blazeixhmm... http://pastebin.com/BKcmMd4722:12
Blazeixkernel.org hacked?22:12
snap-lNot good if it was.22:13
devinheitmuellerWell, you don't see that everyday.22:19
devinheitmuellerThere are more details on the kernel.org homepage.22:19
waldo323_wow22:31
devinheitmuellersnap-l: still on track to pick you up at 6:45.  About to leave....22:36
snap-ldevinheitmueller: you have my permission to hit rhe jackass in my driveway who is pickibg throigh my neighbors trash22:39
snap-lplural22:41
waldo323_snap-l, are you set for a ride or are you already gone?22:48
waldo323_oh i should read more :)22:49

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