[12:53] <pace_t_zulu> morning wrst
[12:57] <wrst> morning pace_t_zulu how you doing?
[12:57] <wrst> average_guy: did you have any luck?
[12:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i'm well ... how are you
[12:58] <wrst> doing well halfway to a 3 day weekend!
[12:58] <average_guy> wrst:I'm getting there. Boots to a prompt now..
[12:59] <wrst> average_guy: if you read the wiki on getting xorg going you will be in good shape
[12:59] <wrst> its provides really good instructions on graphic card drivers etc
[13:00] <average_guy> yeah, thats where I'm at.
[13:01] <average_guy> Arch is pretty cool. Reminds me of pretty much every distribution 10 yrs ago
[13:01] <average_guy> Is not hard to set up. Just slow.  The documentation is suprisingly easy to find
[13:35] <wrst> yeah average_guy the key thing about arch is that you have only what you want so it makes for a much quicker system but it isn't for everyone
[13:36] <average_guy> oh yes, I diggin it :)
[13:37] <wrst> got X going yet average_guy?
[13:38] <average_guy> no, still working on the bootloader
[13:38] <average_guy> it didn't see my xubuntu partition
[13:38] <average_guy> and I now have burg
[13:41] <wrst> hmm average_guy I actually used grub2 in arch and installed the os-prober from the aur and it works really well, much better than ubuntu's patched grub 2
[13:42] <wrst> but grub in arch is pretty simple should just be a simple edit to the menu.lst and you should be in xubuntu glory
[13:45] <average_guy> thats what I had to do, then installed burg from xubuntu to get the graphical boot interface
[13:46] <wrst> i'm not a huge grub2 on ubuntu fan but on arch its winning me over
[13:50] <average_guy> why not? Is easy to customize, looks good, supports everything.. whats not to like?
[14:16] <average_guy> wrst:got x to load
[14:17] <wrst> cool average_guy :)
[14:17] <average_guy> can't log in fir sum reason tho :(
[14:17] <wrst> average_guy: you set up a user?
[14:18] <wrst> oh and can't log into what? :)
[14:18] <average_guy> no, still working as root for now
[14:18] <wrst> ok what can you not log into average_guy?
[14:19] <wrst> gdm/kdm that kind of thing?
[14:20] <average_guy> I cant log into x, I could log in just fine before I changed the runlevel but now that I at the little X login screen, it won't let me past
[14:20] <wrst> so startx doesn't work from the cli? or do you have something in rc.conf that starts x?
[14:21] <average_guy> no no, I modified inittab to start runlevel 5
[14:22] <average_guy> now I'm staring at a login screen I cant get past
[14:22] <wrst> average_guy: why did you do that?
[14:23] <average_guy> seemed like the thing to do at the time?
[14:23] <wrst> ha ha average_guy what login manager are you using?
[14:23] <average_guy> ??
[14:23] <wrst> average_guy: that's not the best way to do it
[14:23] <average_guy> idk
[14:23] <wrst> display manager?
[14:24] <average_guy> x
[14:24] <wrst> average_guy: i would put that back as you had it
[14:24] <wrst> average_guy: what desktop are you going to eventually run?
[14:24] <average_guy> xdm is wut I got xfce is where I'm trying to get
[14:26] <wrst> yeah average_guy you need to install xfce and xdm and have xdm as a startup module in rc.conf
[14:26] <wrst> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce
[14:26] <wrst> you will also need to start dbus
[14:27] <wrst> #rc.d start dbus but to have it work automagically you need dbus in the modules in rc.conf
[14:27] <wrst> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Display_Manager
[14:27] <wrst> i'm guessing xdm is available but not for sure I've never dallied in xfce but any display manager will work
[14:28] <average_guy> ok, getting it un-broken right now
[14:29] <wrst> you shouldn't have to mess with run levels at all unless you just really want to
[16:45] <Xpistos> Hey, do any of you guys know anything about openswan?
[16:58] <wrst> average_guy: any luck?
[16:58] <wrst> hey Xpistos!
[16:58] <Xpistos> Hey
[17:23] <average_guy> wrst: takin a break from it, kid just got home
[17:24] <wrst> ahh enjoy
[19:06] <Xpistos> is there a way to label an external hard drive by its UUID
[19:09] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[19:10] <Xpistos> Thank you sir
[19:10] <cyberanger> and look for the device & matching uuid
[19:10] <Xpistos> Roger
[19:10] <wrst> hello cyberanger
[19:10] <cyberanger> hey wrst
[19:10] <Unit193> sudo blkid will show you them :P
[19:10] <wrst> and Unit193 :)
[19:11] <cyberanger> Unit193: but it has to be installed for that
[19:12] <Unit193> wrst: Howdy
[19:12] <Unit193> cyberanger: It is in newer versions of Ubuntu
[19:13] <Unit193> I personally like sudo fdisk -l better
[19:14] <Xpistos> brain fart
[19:14] <Xpistos> format ext
[19:15] <Xpistos> mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc# right
[19:15] <Xpistos> w
[19:18] <Xpistos> cyberanger: that is telling me that /dev/sdc/7dc8490d-b5a1-40c4-9edb-dcd64bc6a19e is not a directory
[19:19] <Xpistos> does it need to be mounted somewhere first?
[19:35] <Xpistos> Okay how about this. I have three usb drives. I have a backup script saving to /mnt/email-backup. I want the usb drives to auto mount to /mnt/email-backup. How can I do that?
[19:37] <Xpistos> or would it be better to set a cron job to mount -a say 10 minutes before the backup starts
[19:49] <cyberanger> that's saying what? I think your misreading your output, can I see
[19:50] <Unit193> Command |pastebinit   type thing?
[20:37] <Xpistos> YEAH! I totally understand crontab now
[20:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: glad you understand cron better, can I see your output from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[20:38] <cyberanger> I think it's off
[20:38] <Xpistos> doesn't matter
[20:38] <Xpistos> what he wanted was wrong
[20:39] <cyberanger> you didn't want automount by uuid
[20:39] <cyberanger> ?
[20:41] <cyberanger> Xpistos: what was wrong?
[20:46] <Xpistos> I was told to label the hard drive as it's uuid
[20:47] <Xpistos> but what he wanted was for the drive to be mounted to the same mount point
[20:47] <Xpistos> so I set fstab to mount both UUID to the same directory
[20:47] <Xpistos> then crontab mounat -a at 11 pm
[20:48] <Xpistos> and umount the drive at 3 am
[20:48] <Xpistos> the backup script will run at 11:05 and finish by 12
[20:48] <Xpistos> so when the people come in the next day they pull the drive and put in the new one
[20:48] <Xpistos> easy peasy, lemon squeshy
[20:50]  * cyberanger hands Xpistos a peice of wood to knock on
[20:50]  * Xpistos knocks on his head
[20:51] <Juzzy> http://i53.tinypic.com/2a9uogm.jpg <-- our production cluster
[20:54] <Juzzy> 20:1 production vm ratios most all are full production servers. Labs, QA, DR are different ones
[22:18] <cyberanger> man, a friend got in pcmag :-D
[22:18] <cyberanger> (relating to android rooting on the T-Mobile G2)
[22:18] <Unit193> That's great! For a good thing I would hope
[22:20] <cyberanger> yeah, good effort into a guide for rooting the G2 (after many folks including himself & myself spent a month working out the bug in the NAND drive)
[22:20] <Unit193> Was there ever something from Paul Tagliamonte?
[22:24] <cyberanger> I don't recognize that name
[22:24] <cyberanger> perhaps he's got an IRC nick?
[22:26] <Unit193> paultag
[22:30] <cyberanger> think I also saw that nick, yeah
[22:32] <cyberanger> http://www.esecurityplanet.com/network-security/Defending-Against-The-Apache-Killer-Exploit-3939081.htm
[22:37] <cyberanger> Unit193: yeah, another active one in the #g2 channel (when the NAND issue was big) more active than me
[22:42] <Unit193> He was the first to hack one of the nooks I think
[22:42] <Unit193> First or second for something
[22:46] <cyberanger> I've not got the full article, so idk if he's in it or not (but now that you say that, I do recall hearing about the nook)