[00:46] <seattlegaucho> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-us-or/1157/detail/
[00:47] <seattlegaucho> are we going to get together?
[02:06] <valorie> I would have gone down for that
[02:06] <valorie> but Labor Day weekend we always go up to our cabin and cut the winter wood
[02:06] <valorie> so I will miss it
[02:06]  * valorie had no time to organize another jam
[02:07] <valorie> last one, only one person showed up
[02:07] <valorie> that sort of discouraged me
[02:07] <valorie> unfortunately
[02:07] <valorie> the Oregon people are going great guns though
[02:07] <valorie> bkerensa is a bundle of energy
[02:08] <bkerensa> =o
[02:08] <bkerensa> from drinking far to much soda 
[02:08]  * valorie drinks no soda
[02:09] <bkerensa> valorie: I talked to akgraner and told her next year at OSCON I wanna do a after hour ubuntu specific social get together
[02:09] <valorie> cool
[02:09] <valorie> I think the key thing is to get it set up ahead of time
[02:09] <valorie> Sunday night might be good
[02:09] <valorie> that's usually an empty night
[02:09] <bkerensa> Yeah... I'm doing major leg work ahead of time for next year so we will have a event kit and lots of swag
[02:09] <valorie> awesome!
[02:10] <bkerensa> I just hope O'Reilly extends us a few exhibitor passes again and booth
[02:10] <bkerensa> Otherwise Idk how we could afford it
[02:11] <valorie> they don't allow exhibitors free passes?
[02:11] <valorie> I got a free pass from the website
[02:12] <bkerensa> Umm Yeah we can get exhibit hall passes free no problem
[02:12] <valorie> ok
[02:12] <valorie> I'm going to consider submitting a talk
[02:12] <bkerensa> but the Exhibitor ones cost thousands... O'Reilly did it free this year and I imagine they will do it again 
[02:13] <valorie> I thought non-profit exhibit spaces were free
[02:13] <valorie> would suck if they charged, really
[02:13] <bkerensa> Hmm maybe they are I need to check with MarkDude he set all that up and then kinda said "here ya go make it happen"
[02:13] <valorie> having stuff to give away would be a Good Thing though
[02:14] <valorie> yes, I doubt he wants to be in charge of that if he doesn't have to be
[02:14] <bkerensa> Well if we get approved before next year which I'm sure is a slamdunk thing then we get a booth cover, banner and approved kit... even if we are not approved we get a non-approved kit and I would at that point reach out to sponsors to get more swag
[02:15] <valorie> you rock, my dear
[02:15] <bkerensa> Thanks your too kind :)
[02:15] <valorie> y'all should think about maybe coming north for Linuxfest NW
[02:16] <valorie> we always have a booth
[02:16] <bkerensa> Do they donate passes? Because I would have to pay for transport and lodging as it is
[02:16] <valorie> so you would have a home base
[02:16] <valorie> it's free
[02:16] <bkerensa> =o
[02:16] <bkerensa> I will try and shoot for it then
[02:16] <valorie> lfnw.org
[02:16] <valorie> the party Sat. night is epic
[02:17] <valorie> not just free beer, but free EXCELLENT beer
[02:17] <valorie> if you get a van full of people, and share rooms, it's not very expensive
[02:17] <bkerensa> Yeah good idea
[02:17] <valorie> long drive to Bellingham though, for sure
[02:18] <bkerensa> Train may be cheap way :D
[02:18] <valorie> we need more linux small airplane pilots
[02:18] <valorie> :-)
[02:18] <valorie> last I checked, the train was sort of expensive
[02:18] <bkerensa> I have a few friends in Seattle plus I can talk to my cousin she has lots of friends in Seattle from when she worked in Dutch Harbor AK
[02:19] <valorie> Bellingham is so beautiful
[02:19] <valorie> it's a great time
[02:19] <bkerensa> Hmm I have never even been into Washington :D not even Vancouv
[02:19] <valorie> WHAT?
[02:19] <valorie> lol
[02:19] <valorie> omg, why?
[02:19]  * valorie is in OR all the time.....
[02:19] <bkerensa> Uhh people tell me Vancouver has a lot of drug dealers
[02:20] <bkerensa> bad crime
[02:20] <bkerensa> idk
[02:20] <valorie> right
[02:20] <valorie> Portland doesn'
[02:20] <valorie> t
[02:20] <valorie> good grief
[02:20] <valorie> it's just less hipster
[02:20] <valorie> way more white bread and less cool
[02:20] <bkerensa> lol
[02:20]  * bkerensa is tired of hipster
[02:20] <valorie> shocker
[02:20] <valorie> lol
[02:21] <bkerensa> Our neighborhood has been promised funding for sidewalks and such for a decade I guess and the city council wants to give money to a bike sharing program...
[02:21] <bkerensa> its like seriously? Bikes or Safety?
[02:21] <bkerensa> Well I gotta go start dinner and queue up Netflix :D ttyl!
[02:22] <valorie> have fun
[03:02] <bkerensa> valorie: Hi
[03:35] <valorie> hey
[05:18] <bkerensa> valorie: So I talked to paultag about making PNW Loco into a regional coordinated team between WA/OR since its a defunct loco and he thinks its a good idea so are you WA lead if no I need the WA lead e-mail so I can CC him something to council
[06:11] <valorie> we don't have a WA lead.....
[06:11] <valorie> we have a contact on launchpad, but I wouldn't bother writing him because he won't respond
[06:12] <bkerensa> =o
[06:12] <bkerensa> oh ok
[06:12] <valorie> we need to hold elections, but we haven't made it happen
[06:12] <valorie> Linda and I are the de facto leaders, I guess
[06:13] <valorie> I thought they were totally against PNW remaining as anything
[06:14] <valorie> I'd like to see it used, myself
[06:15] <bkerensa> Well apparently not our old team lead said the council didnt want PNW
[06:15] <bkerensa> but paultag says thats not the case
[06:16] <bkerensa> idk.... I hear one thing from one person and council says something different
[06:16] <bkerensa> paultag said channel logging is required.... Yet CA loco basically said its not and that council tries to tell people it is so idk sometimes very confusing *palmface*
[06:16] <valorie> we might need to attend the next council meeting and speak up
[06:17] <valorie> we wanted and asked for logging
[06:17] <valorie> we had our own logger before that
[06:17] <bkerensa> But paultag did say to e-mail the PNW LP contact and ask them to transfer ownership to me then setup a Coordination Team and have WA and OR leads join it and set PNW as owned by the coordinated team so we can handle region  stuff through it
[06:17] <valorie> cool
[06:17] <valorie> is there an Idaho group?
[06:18]  * bkerensa is neither against nor for logging but when MarkDude handed over the reigns so to speak he got in a argument with paultag in our channel over logging
[06:18]  * bkerensa goes to check
[06:18] <bkerensa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdahoTeam
[06:18] <bkerensa> yep
[06:19] <valorie> reins
[06:19] <valorie> you might want to contact them also
[06:19] <valorie> they originally were members, right?
[06:19] <bkerensa> not from what I can see.... Just WA/OR people
[06:19] <bkerensa> but yeah we should get them on board
[06:19] <valorie> weird
[06:19] <valorie> ok
[06:20] <bkerensa> WA will have a new member soon
[06:20] <valorie> yay!
[06:20] <valorie> is that finn?
[06:21] <bkerensa> Finn is coming in September.... He really is enthusiastic about Ubuntu
[06:21] <bkerensa> Yep
[06:21] <valorie> you will totally want to come up next spring and visit him
[06:21] <valorie> :-)
[06:22] <bkerensa> Yeah I talked to my fiancee tonight about LFNW
[06:22] <bkerensa> she seems ok with it
[06:22]  * bkerensa needs to get her surrounded by other women who use Ubuntu :P
[06:23] <valorie> this will be my third year going up with my son
[06:23] <valorie> he's gone up for a long time
[06:24] <valorie> sec
[06:25]  * bkerensa is unsure how people do public talks.... I did a talk about Ubuntu at the last PDX Wordpress UG meeting and idk I always get shaky and nervous and kinda stumble on what I plan to say
[06:25]  * bkerensa adds lots of uhhs and ummm's to his talks
[06:29] <valorie> it was OK
[06:29] <valorie> you'll get better
[06:30] <valorie> mostly it's just a matter of getting past the nervous/shaky part
[06:30] <valorie> and keeping your main points in mind
[06:30] <valorie> slides help, if you can show them
[06:30] <bkerensa> yeah... next time I do one I'm gonna try and get a projector and practice the talk a few days before hand
[06:31] <valorie> that helps too
[06:31] <valorie> use the cat or dog if you can't find another audience
[06:31] <bkerensa> Yeah one of the guys I do Wordpress stuff for now and then came
[06:31] <valorie> or your stuffed penguin
[06:31] <bkerensa> :)
[06:32] <valorie> a person is even better, though
[06:32] <bkerensa> What would you do your talk at OSCON about?
[06:34] <valorie> something about community or getting involved with FOSS for the non-technical person
[06:35] <valorie> I was going to do a lightning talk at CLS, but didn't get the time to practice it
[06:35] <bkerensa> cool :D
[06:35] <bkerensa> I might do a session next year assuming CLS is in Portland again
[06:35] <valorie> without practice, a lightning talk isn't that effective -- unless you are sumanah, I guess
[06:35] <valorie> lol
[06:36] <valorie> it will be
[06:36] <bkerensa> sumanah has skill
[06:36] <valorie> jono already announced it
[06:36] <valorie> she rocks
[06:36] <valorie> sec
[06:38] <valorie> hmm, I wonder where the announcement for next year's OSCON might be?
[06:38] <valorie> OSCON 2012
[06:38] <valorie> July 16-20, 2012
[06:38] <valorie> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/
[06:39] <valorie> so CLS is 14-15th
[06:40] <valorie> ah, I already have it on my calendar
[06:40] <valorie> :-)
[06:40] <bkerensa> :D
[06:40]  * bkerensa is gonna go to sleep ttyl val!
[06:42] <valorie> sweet dreams
[22:29] <seattlegaucho> androidbruce: did you get my DM this morning?