[17:19] SpamapS: if job A is 'start on startup' and job B (udev) is 'start on virtual-filesystem', I assume there is no guarnatee that A will finish before B starts right? [17:22] hallyn: they are completely unrelated [17:22] hallyn: so, correct [17:23] drat. thanks. [17:25] SpamapS: then maybe another q - do you happen to know where udev gets its list of devices to create in udev_event_execute_rules() ? [17:25] it can't just be /lib/udev/rules.d [17:49] hallyn: not very well versed in udev internals no [17:49] ok, thanks