| ScottL | charlie-tca, do you know who worked up your lightdm settings? | 00:41 |
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| charlie-tca | ScottL: It was madnick | 02:11 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: ScottL is the ubuntustudio project lead. | 02:11 |
| madnick | no, he probably means the xubuntu-default-settings | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | and that would be mr_pouit then | 02:12 |
| charlie-tca | It's about 04:15AM his time, so he won't be around for a couple of hours yet | 02:13 |
| madnick | hehe, same here :) | 02:13 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: btw, i asked around about the plymouth thing, why it becomes a black screen with only the animated spirte visible | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, good | 02:15 |
| charlie-tca | anything interesting, or is it my hardware? | 02:15 |
| madnick | i got no direct answer, but it is possibly that plymouth screen becomes reset, and only the animation that is blitted on each iteration keeps going | 02:15 |
| madnick | Since its redrawn "on top" | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | so, basically, they don't know | 02:16 |
| madnick | yeah | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks for asking | 02:16 |
| madnick | I will keep investigating | 02:16 |
| charlie-tca | Wish you could get some real answers, but there may not be one, too. | 02:16 |
| madnick | If this happens regulary, and its not aborted by some error | 02:18 |
| madnick | a fix would be to redraw on every update, or every 10th or similar | 02:19 |
| madnick | Thats what comes to mind | 02:19 |
| charlie-tca | Is there a debug thing for it, so I could try and pull some logs? | 02:19 |
| madnick | Its called n times per second | 02:19 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: well, i know plymouth debug thing needs you to manually set the debug file | 02:20 |
| madnick | plymouthd --debug --debug-file=/home/madnick/plymouth-debug-out | 02:20 |
| charlie-tca | Is it something I could do from the live desktop? | 02:20 |
| madnick | needs to be called, at invoke | 02:20 |
| madnick | Depends on how plymouthd is invoked | 02:21 |
| charlie-tca | If I do that before hitting restart, it should catch it, maybe. | 02:21 |
| madnick | let me check my live cd | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | It's worth trying, anyway. I can ssh into the computer and try to get the log before I hit enter after the cd ejects | 02:22 |
| madnick | Unless it shuts down ssh before it displays plymouth | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | heh, I know ways to make force it | 02:22 |
| charlie-tca | If I can get logs of a failed boot before it hits the desktop, I can make it give me this one | 02:23 |
| charlie-tca | I will work on it tomorrow. I can't see good this late (for me) | 02:24 |
| madnick | okay | 02:24 |
| madnick | ill investigate further | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | If it writes a log, I will find a way to get it | 02:24 |
| charlie-tca | Get some rest, if you need it. I will dig into it tomorrow and get a log if it is possible. | 02:26 |
| madnick | okay :) | 02:26 |
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| charlie-tca | Good morning | 12:38 |
| charlie-tca | new images again this morning to test for beta1 | 13:13 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: do we have to worry about the failed to builds this morning? | 13:24 |
| charlie-tca | abiword worked from a oneiric 64 live session | 13:24 |
| charlie-tca | and I did not get any crashes in live session today | 13:24 |
| charlie-tca | New logo is in the menus today | 13:34 |
| mr_pouit | I don't know, having so many broken packages usually means it was a transient issue in a lib package, so probably images were rebuilt later | 13:48 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, thanks | 13:48 |
| charlie-tca | Good, because we do have images, even though I also see a couple of messages that they failed to build | 13:49 |
| charlie-tca | They must have been watching today and re-built them when they failed | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | Auto-login to installed system fails | 14:05 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: I don't see any surprises on these images | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | spoke too soon | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | lvm encrypted just failed to complete | 14:29 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: The following information may help to resolve the situation: | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: libabiword-2.8 : Depends: libwv-1.2-3 (>= 1.2.4) but it is not installable | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: system-tools-backends : Depends: libnet-dbus-perl but it is not installable | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: xubuntu-desktop : Depends: tango-icon-theme-common but it is not installable | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: Recommends: indicator-application-gtk2 but it is not installable | 14:32 |
| charlie-tca | bug 838136 | 14:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 838136 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu amd64 oneiric beta 1 candidate fails to install due to broken dependency in abiword" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838136 | 14:40 |
| charlie-tca | both alternate images fail | 14:40 |
| micahg | \o/ | 14:47 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: unfortunately, I'm in the middle of something and can't stop for another few hours | 14:49 |
| charlie-tca | notified -release; will use yesterdays images if they fix them quickly | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | first attempt to fix - kick a respin | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | reason for errors: UNKNOWN | 14:55 |
| charlie-tca | new image for alternate published; syncing now | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: I know part of what is happening now | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | the shutdown process is staying on TTY7 for some reason, instead of swithching back to the one that it should (probably TTY6?) | 15:35 |
| madnick | hm okay | 15:40 |
| madnick | So it does reset | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | it just switched for me and I saw the message | 15:40 |
| madnick | Okay, so we do not need a fix for plymouth? | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think so, I think caspar is messing up | 15:42 |
| madnick | But this is replicatable every time for you? | 15:42 |
| madnick | I think it would be kinda sad if people did not know when to press enter | 15:43 |
| charlie-tca | I don't yet. I have only seen the "hit enter to continue" once in weeks | 15:43 |
| charlie-tca | I will release note it, just in case | 15:43 |
| charlie-tca | when the throbber stops moving, and the cd ejects, remove the cd and hit enter on the keyboard to continue | 15:44 |
| madnick | :) | 15:45 |
| charlie-tca | latest alternate re-spin worked! alternate 64 installed | 16:43 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: I think we are in good shape for the beta1 images | 16:44 |
| mr_pouit | nice | 16:44 |
| charlie-tca | I will try not to let them respin again, now | 16:44 |
| mr_pouit | I couldn't reproduce the failure above (abiword & co) | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe you missed the 20110831 image | 16:45 |
| mr_pouit | maybe an archive glitch (because libwv-1.2-3 is still missing from gb.archive.ubuntu.com) | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | It only happened with the one image, and it seemed to be a server error | 16:45 |
| cody-somerville | https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~cody-somerville/worst-error-message-ever.png <-- face palm | 17:27 |
| micahg | cody-somerville: that's an internal only link... | 17:29 |
| cody-somerville | oops | 17:29 |
| micahg | cody-somerville: but interesting anyways :) | 17:29 |
| cody-somerville | http://people.canonical.com/~cody-somerville/worst-error-message-ever.png <-- public link | 17:32 |
| charlie-tca | lol | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | very informative, isn't it | 17:35 |
| scott-work | mr_pouit: ping | 18:07 |
| pleia2 | knome: I think we tell canonical that the plugin writer doesn't want to maintain it in LP so creating a full project for it won't really work, and ask if we can just create a separate branch in xubuntu-website-wordpress | 18:33 |
| mr_pouit | scott-work: pong | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | OMG! I got a plymouth splash screen without the cd | 18:40 |
| scott-work | mr_pouit: have you updated teh lightdm package for xubuntu? specifically, did you add any wallpaper or background to it? | 18:40 |
| madnick | iirc there was something about that, needed to fork the gtk-example-greeter | 18:42 |
| madnick | But I submitted the files | 18:42 |
| mr_pouit | scott-work: no, it's either what madnick wrote, or a dpkg-divert of the greeter config file | 18:43 |
| mr_pouit | tbh, both solutions suck | 18:44 |
| scott-work | lol | 18:44 |
| scott-work | as long as it works, ya know? | 18:44 |
| scott-work | madnick: do you remember the package name or the code branch so i can look at it and hopefully knock something up for ubuntu studio? | 18:45 |
| madnick | scott-work: its not modified, we postponed the new greeter to o+1 | 18:45 |
| madnick | just themed | 18:45 |
| madnick | 1 sec | 18:45 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter-changes.tar.gz | 18:45 |
| charlie-tca | Are we holding the theme file for after beta1? | 18:45 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, I'll work on it after the beta | 18:46 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 18:46 |
| * charlie-tca noticed the blue or pink backgrounds are still there :) | 18:46 | |
| madnick | scott-work: in that, it adds icons in the glade file | 18:46 |
| mr_pouit | (I think I'll go for the dpkg-divert solution, so madnick^W we don't have to maintain a fork of lightdm-gtk-greeter) | 18:46 |
| madnick | :> | 18:47 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: so, we're hacking again? | 18:49 |
| mr_pouit | I guess ;> | 18:50 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: heh, I guess we should try to get a real solution for the LTS | 18:51 |
| charlie-tca | We are going to. Madnick has a lightdm theme package, he just can't get the --testmode to work right | 18:56 |
| scott-work | madnick: i'm sorry but i am ignorant, can you explain the differences between themeing and modifying the package? | 18:56 |
| madnick | scott-work: what i refer to as themeing is changing the designated wallpaper, fonts, and perhaps the gtk theme | 18:56 |
| madnick | Which is nearly all I did for this, i also modifided the glade file a bit | 18:57 |
| scott-work | madnick: which is similar in process to updating the usplash and/or plymouth themes, correct? | 18:57 |
| scott-work | you copy a file to the right place, update initrmfs | 18:57 |
| madnick | I acctually replaced /usr/sbin gtk-example-greeter :P | 18:58 |
| madnick | But I guess | 18:58 |
| * scott-work can't open the tarball from his work computer (windows) :( | 18:58 | |
| madnick | oh | 18:58 |
| scott-work | madnick: okay...i can understand that | 18:58 |
| scott-work | madnick: and this would be different than actually creating a new package for xubuntu based on the vanilla ubuntu lightdm package and putting your stuff in there | 18:59 |
| scott-work | that wouldn't be considerd a "hack" then? | 18:59 |
| madnick | Not sure, tbh I never heard of vanilla ubuntu theme, but I guess if that greeter uses the same config file it would not be that different | 19:00 |
| scott-work | i'm not judging or trying to be pedenatic about language but i want to make sure that i understand your intent and nomenclature | 19:00 |
| mr_pouit | the config file location is hardcoded at build time to /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf iirc | 19:00 |
| micahg | scott-work: get 7-zip | 19:01 |
| mr_pouit | (and it's shipped as a conffile) | 19:01 |
| scott-work | micahg: IT doesn't really want that on the machine since it's unnecessary for work :( | 19:01 |
| madnick | scott-work: is this vanilla ubuntu's greeter: | 19:01 |
| madnick | http://cache.techie-buzz.com/images/ricky/lightdm-login_screen.png | 19:02 |
| mr_pouit | which means you can't really change it on the fly in a postinst, because it would cause unnecessary prompts on upgrades (note that edubuntu does that though) | 19:02 |
| madnick | Oh sorry, I thought vanilla meant a greeter ;) | 19:02 |
| scott-work | madnick: wow, that is actually very slick looking :) | 19:02 |
| madnick | I am not familiar with the english terms | 19:02 |
| mr_pouit | but ubuntu uses the unity greeter | 19:02 |
| madnick | that well, for "plain" :P | 19:02 |
| madnick | scott-work: yes, you can modify teh unity greeter | 19:03 |
| scott-work | madnick: lol, sorry for the confusion, i meant "vanilla" as "ubuntu" | 19:03 |
| scott-work | or non-derivative | 19:03 |
| madnick | Before I started on then new greeter | 19:03 |
| madnick | I did modify the Unityh greeter | 19:03 |
| madnick | Everything is hardcoded | 19:04 |
| scott-work | eh, is the unity greeter based on lightdm? | 19:04 |
| madnick | Yes | 19:04 |
| madnick | http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/labmachine.jpg | 19:04 |
| madnick | That was what I did | 19:04 |
| mr_pouit | (they all use the lightdm interface) | 19:05 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, they took an application written specifically to be easy to modify, and made it as difficult for everyone to change as possible | 19:05 |
| scott-work | charlie-tca: LOL, that figures | 19:07 |
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