[00:41] charlie-tca, do you know who worked up your lightdm settings? [02:11] ScottL: It was madnick [02:11] madnick: ScottL is the ubuntustudio project lead. [02:12] no, he probably means the xubuntu-default-settings [02:12] and that would be mr_pouit then [02:13] It's about 04:15AM his time, so he won't be around for a couple of hours yet [02:13] hehe, same here :) [02:15] charlie-tca: btw, i asked around about the plymouth thing, why it becomes a black screen with only the animated spirte visible [02:15] Oh, good [02:15] anything interesting, or is it my hardware? [02:15] i got no direct answer, but it is possibly that plymouth screen becomes reset, and only the animation that is blitted on each iteration keeps going [02:16] Since its redrawn "on top" [02:16] so, basically, they don't know [02:16] yeah [02:16] Thanks for asking [02:16] I will keep investigating [02:16] Wish you could get some real answers, but there may not be one, too. [02:18] If this happens regulary, and its not aborted by some error [02:19] a fix would be to redraw on every update, or every 10th or similar [02:19] Thats what comes to mind [02:19] Is there a debug thing for it, so I could try and pull some logs? [02:19] Its called n times per second [02:20] charlie-tca: well, i know plymouth debug thing needs you to manually set the debug file [02:20] plymouthd --debug --debug-file=/home/madnick/plymouth-debug-out [02:20] Is it something I could do from the live desktop? [02:20] needs to be called, at invoke [02:21] Depends on how plymouthd is invoked [02:21] If I do that before hitting restart, it should catch it, maybe. [02:22] let me check my live cd [02:22] It's worth trying, anyway. I can ssh into the computer and try to get the log before I hit enter after the cd ejects [02:22] Unless it shuts down ssh before it displays plymouth [02:22] heh, I know ways to make force it [02:23] If I can get logs of a failed boot before it hits the desktop, I can make it give me this one [02:24] I will work on it tomorrow. I can't see good this late (for me) [02:24] okay [02:24] ill investigate further [02:24] If it writes a log, I will find a way to get it [02:26] Get some rest, if you need it. I will dig into it tomorrow and get a log if it is possible. [02:26] okay :) === Unit193 is now known as Guest21521 === Guest21521 is now known as Unit19 === Unit19 is now known as Unit193 [12:38] Good morning [13:13] new images again this morning to test for beta1 [13:24] mr_pouit: do we have to worry about the failed to builds this morning? [13:24] abiword worked from a oneiric 64 live session [13:24] and I did not get any crashes in live session today [13:34] New logo is in the menus today [13:48] I don't know, having so many broken packages usually means it was a transient issue in a lib package, so probably images were rebuilt later [13:48] Okay, thanks [13:49] Good, because we do have images, even though I also see a couple of messages that they failed to build [13:50] They must have been watching today and re-built them when they failed [14:05] Auto-login to installed system fails [14:29] mr_pouit: I don't see any surprises on these images [14:29] spoke too soon [14:29] lvm encrypted just failed to complete [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: The following information may help to resolve the situation: [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: The following packages have unmet dependencies: [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: libabiword-2.8 : Depends: libwv-1.2-3 (>= 1.2.4) but it is not installable [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: system-tools-backends : Depends: libnet-dbus-perl but it is not installable [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: xubuntu-desktop : Depends: tango-icon-theme-common but it is not installable [14:32] Aug 31 14:29:58 in-target: Recommends: indicator-application-gtk2 but it is not installable [14:40] bug 838136 [14:40] Launchpad bug 838136 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "xubuntu amd64 oneiric beta 1 candidate fails to install due to broken dependency in abiword" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838136 [14:40] both alternate images fail [14:47] \o/ [14:49] charlie-tca: unfortunately, I'm in the middle of something and can't stop for another few hours [14:50] notified -release; will use yesterdays images if they fix them quickly [14:55] first attempt to fix - kick a respin [14:55] reason for errors: UNKNOWN [15:25] new image for alternate published; syncing now [15:34] madnick: I know part of what is happening now [15:35] the shutdown process is staying on TTY7 for some reason, instead of swithching back to the one that it should (probably TTY6?) [15:40] hm okay [15:40] So it does reset [15:40] it just switched for me and I saw the message [15:42] Okay, so we do not need a fix for plymouth? [15:42] I don't think so, I think caspar is messing up [15:42] But this is replicatable every time for you? [15:43] I think it would be kinda sad if people did not know when to press enter [15:43] I don't yet. I have only seen the "hit enter to continue" once in weeks [15:43] I will release note it, just in case [15:44] when the throbber stops moving, and the cd ejects, remove the cd and hit enter on the keyboard to continue [15:45] :) [16:43] latest alternate re-spin worked! alternate 64 installed [16:44] mr_pouit: I think we are in good shape for the beta1 images [16:44] nice [16:44] I will try not to let them respin again, now [16:45] I couldn't reproduce the failure above (abiword & co) [16:45] Maybe you missed the 20110831 image [16:45] maybe an archive glitch (because libwv-1.2-3 is still missing from gb.archive.ubuntu.com) [16:45] It only happened with the one image, and it seemed to be a server error [17:27] https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~cody-somerville/worst-error-message-ever.png <-- face palm [17:29] cody-somerville: that's an internal only link... [17:29] oops [17:29] cody-somerville: but interesting anyways :) [17:32] http://people.canonical.com/~cody-somerville/worst-error-message-ever.png <-- public link [17:35] lol [17:35] very informative, isn't it [18:07] mr_pouit: ping [18:33] knome: I think we tell canonical that the plugin writer doesn't want to maintain it in LP so creating a full project for it won't really work, and ask if we can just create a separate branch in xubuntu-website-wordpress [18:36] scott-work: pong [18:40] OMG! I got a plymouth splash screen without the cd [18:40] mr_pouit: have you updated teh lightdm package for xubuntu? specifically, did you add any wallpaper or background to it? [18:42] iirc there was something about that, needed to fork the gtk-example-greeter [18:42] But I submitted the files [18:43] scott-work: no, it's either what madnick wrote, or a dpkg-divert of the greeter config file [18:44] tbh, both solutions suck [18:44] lol [18:44] as long as it works, ya know? [18:45] madnick: do you remember the package name or the code branch so i can look at it and hopefully knock something up for ubuntu studio? [18:45] scott-work: its not modified, we postponed the new greeter to o+1 [18:45] just themed [18:45] 1 sec [18:45] http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter-changes.tar.gz [18:45] Are we holding the theme file for after beta1? [18:46] yeah, I'll work on it after the beta [18:46] okay [18:46] * charlie-tca noticed the blue or pink backgrounds are still there :) [18:46] scott-work: in that, it adds icons in the glade file [18:46] (I think I'll go for the dpkg-divert solution, so madnick^W we don't have to maintain a fork of lightdm-gtk-greeter) [18:47] :> [18:49] mr_pouit: so, we're hacking again? [18:50] I guess ;> [18:51] mr_pouit: heh, I guess we should try to get a real solution for the LTS [18:56] We are going to. Madnick has a lightdm theme package, he just can't get the --testmode to work right [18:56] madnick: i'm sorry but i am ignorant, can you explain the differences between themeing and modifying the package? [18:56] scott-work: what i refer to as themeing is changing the designated wallpaper, fonts, and perhaps the gtk theme [18:57] Which is nearly all I did for this, i also modifided the glade file a bit [18:57] madnick: which is similar in process to updating the usplash and/or plymouth themes, correct? [18:57] you copy a file to the right place, update initrmfs [18:58] I acctually replaced /usr/sbin gtk-example-greeter :P [18:58] But I guess [18:58] * scott-work can't open the tarball from his work computer (windows) :( [18:58] oh [18:58] madnick: okay...i can understand that [18:59] madnick: and this would be different than actually creating a new package for xubuntu based on the vanilla ubuntu lightdm package and putting your stuff in there [18:59] that wouldn't be considerd a "hack" then? [19:00] Not sure, tbh I never heard of vanilla ubuntu theme, but I guess if that greeter uses the same config file it would not be that different [19:00] i'm not judging or trying to be pedenatic about language but i want to make sure that i understand your intent and nomenclature [19:00] the config file location is hardcoded at build time to /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf iirc [19:01] scott-work: get 7-zip [19:01] (and it's shipped as a conffile) [19:01] micahg: IT doesn't really want that on the machine since it's unnecessary for work :( [19:01] scott-work: is this vanilla ubuntu's greeter: [19:02] http://cache.techie-buzz.com/images/ricky/lightdm-login_screen.png [19:02] which means you can't really change it on the fly in a postinst, because it would cause unnecessary prompts on upgrades (note that edubuntu does that though) [19:02] Oh sorry, I thought vanilla meant a greeter ;) [19:02] madnick: wow, that is actually very slick looking :) [19:02] I am not familiar with the english terms [19:02] but ubuntu uses the unity greeter [19:02] that well, for "plain" :P [19:03] scott-work: yes, you can modify teh unity greeter [19:03] madnick: lol, sorry for the confusion, i meant "vanilla" as "ubuntu" [19:03] or non-derivative [19:03] Before I started on then new greeter [19:03] I did modify the Unityh greeter [19:04] Everything is hardcoded [19:04] eh, is the unity greeter based on lightdm? [19:04] Yes [19:04] http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/xubuntu/labmachine.jpg [19:04] That was what I did [19:05] (they all use the lightdm interface) [19:05] yeah, they took an application written specifically to be easy to modify, and made it as difficult for everyone to change as possible [19:07] charlie-tca: LOL, that figures === micahg_ is now known as micahg