[10:25] <AlanBell> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/08/31/going-dotty
[20:48] <AlanBell> anyone tried an orca install of Oneiric beta1 yet?
[20:50] <charlie-tca> nope
[20:50] <charlie-tca> Tracker shows it has not been done
[21:06] <AlanBell> Bug #180561 is now officially pissing me off
[21:06] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 180561 in gfxboot-theme-ubuntu "The liveCD should beep when the boot prompt shows out" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180561
[22:17] <AlanBell> given up on the install for the moment, it seems that gfxboot was written for suse and in the opensuse bootloader you can play a wav file (fsfsong.wav) and a .mod file which plays happy birthday
[22:18] <AlanBell> just burning that to a disc now, so I can prove that the bootloader can make a sound then I will try and hack the gfxboot-ubuntu-theme to make a noise
[22:27] <AlanBell> yes, it works
[22:27] <AlanBell> gfxboot can make a noise, because it does on opensuse
[22:28] <charlie-tca> I think we discussed that at UDS. The decision to not have sounds play for everyone was made a long time ago
[22:31] <AlanBell> meh
[22:31] <AlanBell> lets see what happens with a patch
[22:32] <charlie-tca> I think it goes with the decision that removing anything the able bodied user doesn't need from the menus is called "de-cluttering"
[22:32] <AlanBell> and that one has been fixed
[22:32] <AlanBell> and is past UI freeze
[22:33] <charlie-tca> Well, we still have 6 weeks for them to kill things in the menu
[22:33] <charlie-tca> But I did get onboard in the release notes as a good thing to have in Xubuntu Menus!
[22:33] <AlanBell> nice :)
[23:41] <valorie> I thought Mark was on board with the push for accessability?
[23:41] <valorie> I mean, I was there for his UDS keynote
[23:42] <valorie> "de-cluttering" is great, but not at the expense of a11y
[23:47] <charlie-tca> Yeah, we hear the speeches every release
[23:47] <Pendulum> well, have they mentioned a11y other than the once?
[23:47] <charlie-tca> The de-cluttering was a few releases back
[23:48] <charlie-tca> and there have been bugs for at least three releases to get Onboard back in the menu
[23:48] <Pendulum> they didn't mention it in opening stuff for Maverick (back when Unity was first announced at all and when it was just going to be netbooks)