[00:13] <philipballew> hey holstein you around?
[00:13] <holstein> philipballew: i am... whats up?
[00:15] <philipballew> i'm makin my ubuntu wiki better and was wondering how yo did your box's at the top so nice?
[00:16] <philipballew> your kinda a pro at that part
[00:16] <holstein> philipballew: i actually stole them from someone
[00:16] <holstein> with permission
[00:16] <holstein> philipballew: you can just hit the edit button and grab what you like :)
[00:16] <holstein> and edit it to fit what you need
[00:17] <holstein> i used the beginners team header becuase i thought it was most appropriate
[00:17] <philipballew> alright :)
[00:17] <philipballew> sounds good
[00:57] <Neoncamouflage> Anybody here know where I might find the sound device location in Ubuntu 10.10? Was told to check /dev/dsp and /dev/sound/dsp but I have neither.
[00:58] <holstein> Neoncamouflage: i would try a few things... open a terminal and type
[00:58] <holstein> lspci
[00:58] <holstein> if its a usb interface, use lsusb
[00:59] <holstein> you want to see it one of those places... then.. you want to run these 2
[00:59] <holstein> aplay -l
[00:59] <holstein> arecord -l
[00:59] <holstein> feel free to pastebin any of that Neoncamouflage and i'll see if i can help interpret
[01:00] <Neoncamouflage> A Python module called tkSnack needs access to my sound device, what I"m trying to find here. I'll see if I can find it in the list.
[01:00] <holstein> Neoncamouflage: so, you have sound?
[01:01] <holstein> this is not a 'i dont have sound' issue?
[01:01] <Neoncamouflage> Oh, no, I already had that issue, solved it myself.
[01:01] <holstein> :)
[01:01] <Neoncamouflage> This is an issue of tkSnack needing to be able to utilize my speakers, and it's unable to do so
[01:01] <holstein> Neoncamouflage: not sure if i'll be much help with the coding... i'll leave it to some others :)
[01:01] <Neoncamouflage> Well my only issue is locating where my sound device is
[01:01] <Neoncamouflage> looked it up, but it
[01:02] <Neoncamouflage> s not in the two directories it's supposed to be
[01:04] <holstein> Neoncamouflage: you can pop in #opensourcemusicians real quick and ask
[01:05] <holstein> Neoncamouflage: someone in #ardour might know as well, but thats pretty far OT
[01:07] <Neoncamouflage> Cool, thanks
[02:34] <ktwohig9> hello folks: ubuntu 11.04 installed 7 days ago. Sony F series laptop. Hooked up to panasonic 32" TV via HDMI - video is fine, no audio. Any ideas?
[02:37] <holstein> ktwohig9: sure
[02:37] <holstein> open up a terminal... run the command
[02:37] <holstein> aplay -l
[02:38] <holstein> see if you see anything there
[02:38] <holstein> theres some great tips here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[02:38] <ktwohig9> 2 devices intel based, 4 devices nvidia
[02:39] <holstein> ktwohig9: thats good
[02:39] <ktwohig9> nvidia seems to be the HDMI
[02:39] <holstein> ktwohig9: get some headphones, and make sure the sound works otherwise
[02:39] <holstein> i would be *very* surprised if that audio works out of HDMI
[02:39] <ktwohig9> yes i can get sound via headphones or the laptop's speakers
[02:40] <holstein> ktwohig9: i would just get that kind of adapter, and run that audio to whatever
[02:40] <ktwohig9> oh ok. Kinda figured that but since it works in win 7 I figured worth a shot
[02:40] <holstein> you should let nvidia know
[02:41] <ktwohig9> I will and thanks
[02:41] <holstein> ktwohig9: sure :)
[02:41] <holstein> you could poke around for bug reports too
[02:41] <holstein> im not 100% by any means
[03:15] <jpk> I'm trying to figure out what I need to run on the ubuntu side so I can use my RealVnc client on my XP box?
[03:15] <holstein> jpk: depends on what version you are running
[03:15] <holstein> i use whats built in to lucid
[03:16] <holstein> from the terminal... vino-preferences
[03:16] <jpk> ubuntu 11.04
[03:16] <holstein> you can install vino if you dont have it
[03:16] <bodhizazen> doh - not vino
[03:16] <holstein> you can just any vnc server in the repos though
[03:16] <holstein> bodhizazen: what is it now?
[03:16] <bodhizazen> freenx
[03:17] <bodhizazen> vnc / vino is insecure
[03:17] <holstein> well... im assuming its local
[03:17] <bodhizazen> 'lo holstein
[03:17] <jpk> I downloaded x11VNC server but not sure how or if compatible with RealVNC on windows side
[03:17] <holstein> i shouldnt though...
[03:17] <holstein> bodhizazen: o/
[03:17] <holstein> jpk: it should work fine
[03:17] <holstein> you can try it and see
[03:17] <bodhizazen> yes but if the route has UPnP you are sort of opening a deep , dark pit
[03:17] <bodhizazen> it is jpk
[03:18] <bodhizazen> x11vnc uses a shared X11 session, so you will have to be logged in @ ubuntu
[03:18] <Unit193> Or run it with root to get to GDM
[03:18] <jpk> This is internal network and I can ping my ubuntu box from my windows machine
[03:19] <bodhizazen> jpk, be sure to firewall it
[03:20] <bodhizazen> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5900:5910 -s ! 192.168.0.0/24 -j DROP
[03:21] <jpk> Confused - What do I run on the ubuntu side? Do I download the RealVnc Server?
[03:23] <jpk> I don't want to open any dark pit.
[03:23] <bodhizazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc
[03:23] <bodhizazen> VNC is the most common crack on the ubuntu forums as it is insecure
[03:23] <bodhizazen> You really should use ssh
[03:23] <bodhizazen> or freenx, freenx is both faster and more secure
[03:24] <holstein> yeah, jpk, i was assuming you were local when i suggested vino
[03:24] <bodhizazen> If you are going to use a vnc server on your lan, you need to firewall it
[03:24] <Unit193> But doesn't always work
[03:24] <bodhizazen> iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 5900:5910 -s ! 192.168.0.0/24 -j DROP
[03:24] <bodhizazen> Also, does your router have UPnP ?
[03:25] <bodhizazen> you should disable that ( UPnP )
[03:25] <bodhizazen> Unit193, nothing always works =)
[03:25] <Unit193> bodhizazen: I was kinda sad that I couldn't use *NX
[03:25] <bodhizazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:26] <bodhizazen> Freenx is a bit of a hassle to set up, granted, but it is a faster protocol and more secure, so it is sort of a win win
[03:27] <Unit193> Didn't exactly work with Xubuntu though
[03:28] <bioterror> I've never really seen the benefit for remote desktop in *nix
[03:28] <jpk> I just want to be able to see my ubuntu desktop from my windows xp box using RealVNC viewer free Edition
[03:28] <bioterror> as the shell is more powerfull
[03:28] <bioterror> hardly nothing I cannot do
[03:29] <bodhizazen> jpk, I understand that, it is easy to do, but you need to be sure to secure it =)
[03:29] <bioterror> "oh you could add torrents to your client!" but that can be done with http ;)
[03:29] <holstein> theres always teamviewer :)
[03:29] <bodhizazen> jpk, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#x11vnc
[03:29] <bodhizazen> teamviewer is nice
[03:30] <holstein> i dont leave it on, but i leave it installed on most boxes i work on now
[03:30] <jpk> bodhizazen - my modem has UPnP
[03:31] <jpk> Is that what you mean by securing?
[03:31] <bodhizazen> do you know what UPnP is jpk ?
[03:31] <jpk> Not really
[03:31] <bodhizazen> =)
[03:31] <holstein> universal plug n play?
[03:31] <holstein> auto detection?
[03:31] <bodhizazen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play
[03:31] <holstein> cool :)
[03:31] <jpk> I see that
[03:31] <holstein> i know enough to be dangerous on a network
[03:32] <jpk> Does that allow other to see into my lan?
[03:32] <bodhizazen> It means you router detects servers, like say VNC, and automatically forwards them, meaning they are accessible outside you LAN
[03:32] <bodhizazen> Makes the LAN "easy" to use
[03:32] <bodhizazen> a little too easy
[03:32] <jpk> So disable and use vino
[03:33] <bodhizazen> disable UPnP yes
[03:33] <bodhizazen> then you should be "OK" with vino
[03:34] <jpk> I'll disable then try the vino, thanks
[03:34] <jpk> Vino is freeware
[03:34] <bodhizazen> yes
[03:34] <bodhizazen> vino is the default VNC server in Ubuntu
[03:34] <jpk> Maybe it is already on here?
[03:35] <jpk> Yes/NO?
[03:35] <holstein> i can only say for sure about lucid
[03:35] <holstein> and its in there by default
[03:35] <holstein> i havent looked/noticed since then
[03:36] <jpk> When I typed it in I got Remote Desktop
[03:36] <jpk> Can I use Remote Desktop?
[03:36] <bodhizazen> Remote Desktop == vino
[03:37] <jpk> Any configuration?
[03:37] <bodhizazen> set a password =)
[03:37] <jpk> Do I just start it up?
[03:38] <holstein> try running vino-preferences
[03:38] <jpk> From a command line
[03:38] <bodhizazen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#vino
[03:38] <holstein> jpk: however you want to run it... alt+F2, terminal, its in the menu somewhere... remote desktop? something like that
[03:40] <jpk> thanks
[06:12] <strickly> anyone alive commares?
[06:12] <bioterror> hardly
[06:13] <strickly> haha thats what it seems
[06:13] <strickly> :)
[06:15] <philipballew> Hey strickly
[06:15] <strickly> sup philipballew
[06:17] <philipballew> doin the nightly neverending homework!
[06:21] <strickly> ah whats it about?
[06:42] <philipballew> well strickly its history homework and math homework
[06:42] <philipballew> i bet your jealious
[06:42] <strickly> ah ok, not something I would enjoy myself most def
[06:42] <philipballew> college is fun!
[06:43] <strickly> hha if you say so
[14:14] <raubvogel> I have a hp pavilion dv6700 laptop with a  broadcom 94312 wireless card and Ubuntu 10.10.  ifconfig and lshw -C network have no problem seeing card. And I can see the networks around here, but when I try to join a WPA protected one, I can enter the password but it will not connect.
[14:23] <philinux> raubvogel: try this from the terminal. sudo apt-get install --reinstall wpasupplicant
[14:24] <raubvogel> philinux: done
[14:24] <raubvogel> now try again?
[14:24] <philinux> yep
[14:25] <philinux> you may need to reboot dunno
[14:26] <raubvogel> It did not work; let's try rebooting first
[14:29] <raubvogel> Did not work.
[14:29] <raubvogel> If it is relevant I am using the broadcom b43 proprietary driver
[14:30] <raubvogel> since this is a 4312 LP-PHY card
[14:30] <philinux> raubvogel: I'm not a network expert but other peeps seem to have same problem maybe a solution too. http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=uubntu+cant+join+wpa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=xOo&channel=fs&gl=uk&source=hp&q=uubntu+10.10+cant+join+wpa&pbx=1&oq=uubntu+10.10+cant+join+wpa&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=347762l349356l0l349981l6l6l0l0l0l0l209l933l0.5.1l6l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp
[14:30] <philinux> =b3d545919201a9f2&biw=1229&bih=859
[14:31] <philinux> err sorry bad link
[14:31] <raubvogel> On my other laptop I solved the problem by replacing the broadcom with an atheros card
[14:32] <philinux> Google this "ubuntu 10.10 can't join wpa"
[14:32] <philinux> Have you looked in system Admin hardware drivers. I guess you have
[16:48] <Antonio007> can you  help with  ndiswrapper compilation?
[16:54] <Antonio007> when compiling the package ndiswrappe I get Unknown field 'ioctl' specified in initializer
[18:22] <learner> i am here on behalf of my frnd. who is using ubuntu 10.10. he has configured internet mobil connection (reliance netconnect) and gprs conection it was working fine sudennly yesterday he is not able to connect and there is a exclamation mark in his network applet saying tat network manager is not running.
[18:28] <learner> pls suggest some solution
[18:37] <learner> problem with ubuntu network manager
[20:09] <Raweed> Hey, has anyone on here sucessfully installed ubuntu 11.04 onto an external HDD im having issues ?