[00:00] <pleia2> Hi everyone :)
[00:00] <pleia2> anyone here for the lernid testing?
[00:00] <pleia2> (this channel isn't moderated at the moment)
[00:01] <jsjgruber> Hello everyone. This is a Lernid testing session. I'd like to thank you for joining us.
[00:02] <jsjgruber> Please speak up in #ubuntu-classroom-chat if you are here to help us test the new version of Lernid--0.8.2
[00:05] <jsjgruber> I'm going to hope we have some shy people here to give us a hand, and who will speak up if they hae a problem or a question or concern.
[00:05] <jsjgruber> If you are willing to lend a hand with testing let's double check what version everyone is running. Take a look at the about box. You should be running version 0.8.2.
[00:05] <jsjgruber> If you aren't, you probably don't have the lernid-proposed ppa installed. To
[00:06] <jsjgruber> install start a termianl session with CTRL-ALT-T (CTRL and ALT held, then T)
[00:06] <jsjgruber> and enter the commands:
[00:06] <jsjgruber> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jsjgruber/lernid-proposed
[00:06] <jsjgruber> sudo apt-get update
[00:06] <jsjgruber> sudo apt-get install lernid
[00:06] <jsjgruber> Then you can check your lernid version with the command:
[00:06] <jsjgruber> dpkg -s lernid
[00:06] <jsjgruber> and you should see the version is 0.8.2
[00:09] <jsjgruber> Looking at the schedule tab. Do you see my text in bold (I should be using JSJGruber rather than the
[00:09] <jsjgruber> jsjgruber in the calendar. Am I listed as jsjgruber in the schedule
[00:09] <jsjgruber> widget? Is my name there in a smaller font? Thanks to Mohammad AbuShady
[00:09] <jsjgruber> (coalwater) for allowing the bolding, etc., work without reference
[00:09] <jsjgruber> to whether the names are upper, lower, or mixed case.
[00:10] <JsJgruber> Sorry, I forgot to change to JsJgruber. I should still be in bold in the classroom session.
[00:11] <JsJgruber> Ok.  Try Event->Open URL...> launchpad.net/lernid . That should now work
[00:11] <JsJgruber> without putting "http://" on the front. Thanks fo to Diagenese for this.
[00:11] <JsJgruber> Thanks *go* to Diogenese for this, that is.
[00:12] <JsJgruber> Please go to wcarc.bgsu.edu and I'll check the website logs to check this. Coalwater
[00:12] <JsJgruber> again helped out by providing this fix.
[00:13] <JsJgruber> That last is to check the change from Coalwater for the Useragent, it has listed Safari, and now should say Lernid
[00:14] <JsJgruber> Next I'll ask you to disconnect and reconnect. Let me mention first what to
[00:14] <JsJgruber> expect.
[00:14] <JsJgruber> You should be getting just two choices when connecting, one for
[00:14] <JsJgruber> #ubuntu-classroom and one for #ubuntu-charlas (spanish)
[00:14] <JsJgruber> Pay attention to how long it takes for the connection dialog box to disappear,
[00:14] <JsJgruber> and to the notification message about asking questions in the chat.
[00:14] <JsJgruber> The connection dialog box should go away quickly and
[00:14] <JsJgruber> you should see slide progress appear in the status bar. If you click in the
[00:14] <JsJgruber> lernid window it shouldn't go gray.
[00:14] <JsJgruber> The notification should say to prefix questions with "QUESTION:" rather than
[00:14] <JsJgruber> "question:", thanks again to Coalwater.
[00:14] <JsJgruber> Please go ahead. I'll wait about 2 minutes.
[00:18] <JsJgruber> Did the dialog box disappear right away? Did the messages say QUESTION rather than Question?
[00:20] <JsJgruber> Down below you should see a control for turning on the prefix and "QUESTION"
[00:20] <JsJgruber> should be upper case there, too. It should look like all the text
[00:20] <JsJgruber> throughout the Lernid window. Click on "QUESTION" and it should toggle
[00:20] <JsJgruber> the checkmark. You should also see a tooltip come up if you hover over
[00:20] <JsJgruber> QUESTION or the checkmark. That message should mention "QUESTION" (in upper
[00:20] <JsJgruber> case).
[00:21] <JsJgruber> Does it check out?
[00:21] <ClassBot> pleia2-lucid asked: ​ do you like cats?
[00:24] <JsJgruber> Let's check out a contribution from a long time Lernid contributor.
[00:25] <JsJgruber> Please go to the Edit->Preferences dialog and turn on the new
[00:25] <JsJgruber> O"pen presentation links in default browser" choice. I'll post a link:
[00:25] <JsJgruber> I'll give everyone a  few second to set the preference.
[00:26] <JsJgruber> http://ubuntu.com
[00:26] <JsJgruber> That should have opened the link in Firefox or whatever browser you use (in a new tab)
[00:27] <holstein> JsJgruber: give me a few ticks...
[00:27] <holstein> OK... can you relink ?
[00:27] <JsJgruber> Sure.
[00:27] <JsJgruber> http://ubuntu.com
[00:28] <JsJgruber> Did that work, hostein?
[00:28] <holstein> JsJgruber: yup
[00:28] <JsJgruber> Excellent.
[00:28] <holstein> slick :)
[00:28] <JsJgruber> Please remember to unclick the preference again if you want presentations to be shown in the lernid browser window. Thanks to enli for this feature
[00:28] <JsJgruber> (Peeyoosh Sangolekar).
[00:28] <JsJgruber> Please check the label on the classroom and chatroom panels. The classroom
[00:28] <JsJgruber> names should be normal text rather than bold, and should contain the whole
[00:28] <JsJgruber> name--#ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat.
[00:29] <holstein> JsJgruber: thats seems like what i have... unless im just overlooking something obvious
[00:30] <JsJgruber> holstein, if you are running the new version that is what is expected--very good.
[00:30] <JsJgruber> I'll wait a few more seconds for people to uncheck the option.
[00:32] <lajjr> my version is 0.8.2.1~lp1+228+245+201108290226~natty1
[00:32] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/170487 just in case...
[00:32] <holstein> i do see *some* things in bold
[00:34] <JsJgruber> you should see what I type in bold, but not what you type. We are looking at Lernid's ability to distinguish the commands and output of the prople scheduled to instruct a class.
[00:34] <pleia2> I'm bold too because I'm a helper
[00:34] <holstein> cool... thats what im getting then... and im unchecked now as well
[00:35] <JsJgruber> I'll post another command and let's see if another set of slides come up.
[00:36] <JsJgruber> This should bring up a lengthly slide load, with a progress message
[00:36] <JsJgruber> below, on the left. While it loads you should be able to click around
[00:36] <JsJgruber> lernid without making it go gray.
[00:36] <JsJgruber> This may take a while to load.
[00:36] <JsJgruber> [slidefile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/guile-gnome-gtk.pdf 1]
[00:37] <JsJgruber> This should still show up.
[00:37] <JsJgruber> How did it go?
[00:38] <JsJgruber> This should be bold!
[00:39] <johnsgruber_> This should not be bold
[00:41] <johnsgruber_>  [slidefile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/guile-gnome-gtk.pdf 1]
[00:42] <JsJgruber> The slide file should be reloading again, even though johnsgruber_ wasn't scheduled to be an instructor and isn't in the schedule.
[00:42] <JsJgruber> Did that work?
[00:43] <JsJgruber> [slidefile https://sites.google.com/site/gruberdocuments/engineering-docs/lernid 0.8.2.pdf]
[00:45] <JsJgruber> [slidefile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf]
[00:47] <JsJgruber> This should be in bold, though.
[00:47] <JsJgruber> Now for something different. Let's look at the schedule tab again.
[00:47] <JsJgruber> Please click the button under the slides. Your browser should open the
[00:47] <JsJgruber> slides in a new window.
[00:49] <johnsgruber_>  [slidefile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf]
[00:49] <johnsgruber_>   [slidefile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/guile-gnome-gtk.pdf 1
[00:49] <ClassBot> There are 10 minutes remaining in the current session.
[00:50] <johnsgruber_>   [slidefile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/guile-gnome-gtk.pdf 1]
[00:51] <JsJgruber> Any questions from anyone?
[00:53] <ClassBot> Unit19320 asked: ​ Will we be able to change "Real Name" before connect?
[00:54] <ClassBot> There are 5 minutes remaining in the current session.
[00:54] <JsJgruber> I'm not sure I understand, but if you mean an irc setting for your real name, we don't have any plans to add any more of that sort of thing at present. You can always file a blueprint (or for simple things, a wishlist bug)
[00:55] <ClassBot> lajjr98 asked: ​ Yes is possible to open up the pdf in the session?
[00:56] <JsJgruber> Not at this time.
[00:57] <JsJgruber> People should be seeing the questions posted by classbot in italics, my answers in bold.
[00:58] <ClassBot> lajjr98 asked: ​ like a tab like schedule etc? ?maybe?
[00:59] <JsJgruber> The hope is that if people want to look at the slides at their own pace, or later, they can open them through their browser and bookmark or save them.
[01:01] <johnsgruber_>  [slidefile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf]
[01:02] <JsJgruber> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf
[01:04]  * lajjr says brb
[01:05] <JsJgruber> [slidefile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf]
[01:06] <JsJgruber> [slidefile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/slides/Launchpad_GPG_Key_Basics.pdf]
[01:08] <JsJgruber> [slidefile https://sites.google.com/site/gruberdocuments/engineering-docs/lernid 0.8.2.pdf]
[01:10] <JsJgruber> [slidefile http://www.gnu.org/software/guile-gnome/docs/gtk/guile-gnome-gtk.pdf 3]
[01:11] <JsJgruber> Let's go on to stopping and starting lernid and using its options.
[01:12] <JsJgruber> It might be trouble because we will be out of contact some of the time.
[01:12] <JsJgruber> Now let's try a couple of things that will require us to restart lernid
[01:12] <JsJgruber> from a terminal. To bring up a terminal you can type: CTRL-ALT-T .
[01:12] <JsJgruber> (Hold Control and Alt, and hold them while then pressing the T button).
[01:12] <JsJgruber> Quit lernid and then restart it from the window using the -v and
[01:12] <JsJgruber> --avoid-desktopcouch options : lernid -v --avoid-desktopcouch
[01:12] <JsJgruber> While it is running you should see messages, in the terminal window each
[01:12] <JsJgruber> time while lernid starts up, but not when a message comes in. If you
[01:12] <JsJgruber> stop and start lernid in this mode you will see that the window size
[01:12] <JsJgruber> and size of the panes is not remembered between starts.
[01:12] <JsJgruber> Restart it again, using the option: lernid -d
[01:12] <JsJgruber> You should see all of the above messages, plus additional ones each time
[01:12] <JsJgruber> a message is posted to the classroom or chatroom.
[01:14] <JsJgruber> I'll wait a couple of minutes for each of you to start and restart lernid
[01:17] <JsJgruber> I'll wait another minute or so. It can take time to restart lernid.
[01:18] <JsJgruber> Are people back?
[01:20] <JsJgruber> After the session, try the #ubuntu-charlas choice for connecting. The
[01:20] <JsJgruber> word QUESTION should change everywhere to the Spanish equivalent.
[01:20] <JsJgruber> Please send me a note at johnsgruber@gmail.com if you run into further
[01:20] <JsJgruber> problems while testing lernid, or file a bug against it.
[01:20] <JsJgruber> Any last questions?
[01:22] <JsJgruber> If there are no more questions I guess we should call it a day? I'll stick around a few minutes in chat, anyway.
[01:22] <JsJgruber> Thank you very much for helping us test lernid!
[01:29] <ClassBot> Logs for this session will be available at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/06/06/%23ubuntu-classroom.html
[01:34] <JsJgruber> Looks like ClassBot is confused by duplicate session names--noting the date on the irclogs message.
[18:44] <learner> may i ask a question?
[18:47] <learner> anyone here?
[19:05] <learner> i am here on behalf of my frnd. who is using ubuntu 10.10. he has configured internet mobil connection (reliance netconnect) and gprs conection it was working fine sudennly yesterday he is not able to connect and there is a exclamation mark in his network applet saying tat network manager is not running.
[19:06] <pleia2> learner: this channel is for hosted classes, you want #ubuntu for support
[19:08] <learner> pleia2: thanks i m new to irc..how can i learn frm this class is der any class going on right now
[19:12] <pleia2> learner: no classes going on right now, the schedule is the link in the channel topic: http://is.gd/8rtIi