[00:04] oh cute, launchphplib (I want to call it launchphpadlib, said with a stutter - I think I'll change it at 1.0) seems to be playing nice [00:14] paultag: or launchphadlib [00:16] ha [00:16] that's good too [00:22] mhall119: cute :) -- http://pault.ag/launchphplib/hello-world.php?p=mhall119 [00:22] Oh jeez, nigelb - that photo is nuts! - http://pault.ag/launchphplib/hello-world.php?p=nigelbabu :) [00:27] paultag: that's a nice looking couple [00:28] Hahaha [00:59] hey paultag [01:00] hey duanedesign [01:00] sucks about the kernel.org hack. Good they do not think any of the gt treees were compromised [01:01] s/gt/git [01:01] yar [01:01] paultag: how is my favorite communist comrade today? [01:02] ;) [01:02] duanedesign: Living the dream, friend :) [01:02] duanedesign: I had to hack up a little lib for some fluxbox work, so that's been my night [01:02] nice [01:02] about to blag it once I settle some more bugs [01:03] i have had no time to do any work on any of my projects :( [01:03] Maybe this weekend. 3 day weekend [01:03] duanedesign: yeah, I hear canonical sucks your free time [01:04] i got my new computer monday. twica as many cores should be able to do twice the work :) [01:04] still adjusting to the new keyboard [05:01] paultag: hehe, doctormo made it for me :) [06:09] nigelb: What did I do? [06:10] mo [06:10] :) [06:10] doctormo: the picture I use on Launchpad [06:11] doctormo : I iz haz laser cutter :) [06:11] Martyn: How nice, you traded your grammar? ;-) [06:12] Yep .. I'm afraid I've traded everything but my ability to speak lolcat. [06:12] Martyn: You did it again! [06:12] No wait, that's that opposite thing: [06:12] hee he [06:12] nigelb: I feel i should make you a new image. [06:12] Actually, it's just really late at night, I've spent too many hours exposed to acrylic fumes [06:13] heh [06:14] nigelb: Can you email me a high rez photo? [06:14] doctormo: None new as of now [06:15] but I shall email in the next few days [06:18] nigelb: Tah === jussi01_ is now known as jussi [07:01] morning [07:03] good morning [07:06] Good Morning dholbach! [07:07] hi nigelb [07:16] Morning dpm! [07:17] morning nigelb :) [07:18] hey dpm [07:21] morgen dholbach :) [07:22] <-- evil [07:22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaoLU6zKaws [07:36] nigelb, quick question: is the classbot able to tweet? [07:36] dpm: Yes [07:36] cool! [07:36] dpm: 10 minutes before session start I think. [07:36] tweet and dent [07:36] * nigelb lunhes [07:37] err [07:37] *lunches [07:37] nigelb, excellent how does it work? Can it be set up to use a particular hashtag? e.g. #ubuntuappdev [07:37] (feel free to answer after lunch!) [07:39] dpm: https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntuclassroom [07:39] More answers probably from nhandler. [07:40] nhandler, cool, that helps me already, I'll follow up on an e-mail. Thanks and enjoy your lunch! [07:47] o/ dpm [07:47] I have a problem with my slot now :( [07:47] hey AlanBell, no worries, let's see if we can change it. Would some other slot work for you? [07:48] a monday slot would be fine [07:48] or friday [07:49] I was hoping to do it towards the start of the week as it is a "hello world" level session, but really it doesn't matter that much [07:50] AlanBell, let me check with Anthony Lenton if we can swap his slot with yours on Monday. If it doesn't work we can then take one of the open slots on Friday. Would that work for you? [07:50] dpm: I think we'll put groundcontrol sessions on hold until it's repaired. [07:50] doctormo, ok, no worries, thanks for coming back to me [07:50] dpm: works for me, thanks [07:51] dpm: But do let me know if you need anything else. DBus, python, class management, data access, etc. [07:51] AlanBell, cool. I'll talk to Anthony when he's up, later on in the day, and then I'll come back to you [07:51] great [07:52] doctormo, Any of those topics would be excellent -DBus, perhaps?-. Would you like to pick up one of the free slots on Friday? [07:56] * dpm walks to the office [07:56] brb === kim0|holiday is now known as kim0 [07:59] Morning everyone [08:09] kim0, عيد مبروك - hope you had a good time :) [08:15] dholbach: thanks man :) yeah it was fun [08:16] nice :) [08:25] kim0: hey hey hey! [08:25] welcome back! [08:25] nigelb: hey .. thanks :) [09:37] any Millbank people in da house? [10:11] akgraner: \o/ [10:11] http://www.datamation.com/open-source/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-community-burnout-1.html [10:11] You're on Hacker News! [10:29] akgraner: hurray :) [10:30] http://twitter.com/#!/alanbell_libsol/status/109207770787618817 any retweets would be awesome [11:07] AlanBell: Love that the pub tweeted back to you about reservations. [11:07] yeah, nice of them [11:09] I'm back :) [11:09] now to deal with loco teams [11:10] * czajkowski rolls up her sleeves [11:10] hmm I tink I just marked a mail as spam on listamin [11:10] bugger [11:18] nigelb: what's with you and "heh" [11:18] nigelb: you're like a pull-toy :) [11:18] I should make a virtual nigelb - while ( true ) { print "heh"; } [11:18] hahaha [11:18] 11:17 < nigelb> heh [11:19] 09:53 < nigelb> heh [11:19] don't make me grep [11:19] 09:42 < nigelb> heh [11:19] Don't :D [11:20] holy jeez [11:20] $ grep "nigelb> heh$" . -R | wc -l [11:20] 159 [11:20] and a psedorandom control - popey [11:20] o.O [11:21] $ grep "popey> heh$" . -R | wc -l [11:21] 39 [11:21] Welcome to earf' [11:21] there is only one thing I can say to that [11:21] heh [11:21] heh [11:22] Brilliant! [12:14] heh [12:27] *faceplam* [12:27] someone on a list I'm a member is asking how to send out 50,000 emails in a day. [12:27] sigh [12:29] openemm :) [12:34] Hahahaha [12:34] that's legit [12:38] nigelb: tell him you'll email him the instructions to his personal email [12:38] then, once he gives it to you, sign it up for all the spam you can think of [12:45] Hahahahahaha [12:46] or US Conservitive party mailing lists [12:46] those are the worst [12:46] there's this one that is stupid crazy [12:48] not crazy stupid? [12:48] Isn't cjohnston part of something like that? :P [12:48] mhall119: a bit of both [12:48] nigelb: Oh I'm sure [12:49] there was this one site for woman conservitives - it was the most un-feminist propganda-esque site I've ever seen [12:49] so I signed my best buddy up for their mailings [12:51] lol [12:51] I mean, heh [12:51] heh [12:52] dpm: ClassBot will dent/tweet as @ubuntuclassroom 10 minutes before the session and right as the session starts. It doesn't support having per-session tags. [13:03] thanks nhandler. What about other tags, e.g. using per-week tags, such as #ubuntuappdev during App Developer Week, or #ubuntuopenweek for Open Week? Would it support something like that? [13:46] hehe, cute - http://pault.ag/launchphplib/hello-javascript.php [13:46] heh [13:49] Pici: :) [14:38] I will be an email ninja today [14:39] jcastro: dude, I gave up that fight a few weeks ago - you know how the titanic was designed to let a few compartments get flooded? Well I did that. I now have 5 email accounts, all their own gmail (some are gapps). All the kruft / forwards go to paultag@gmail, so I'm just leaving that flooded [14:39] what could go wrong? [14:44] paultag: if it gets out of control, you'll end of Celine Dion singing [14:52] kim0: yo [14:56] jcastro: hey [15:39] paultag / jcastro - https://twitter.com/#!/DEVOPS_BORAT/status/109287680101187584 [15:39] I love that dude [15:40] hahaha [15:41] that guy is awesome [16:04] dpm, good job on getting the schedule for UADW together [16:06] thanks dholbach, it was a bit hectic last week trying to populate the sessions :) === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:08] * dholbach calls it a day [17:08] see you all tomorrow! [17:09] mhall119, I see you filed a new RT [17:09] does it resolve the issues in the last RT? [17:09] jono: we're about to find out ;) [17:09] :-) [17:09] it should though, did someone give you the details of what happened yesterday? [17:09] mhall119, can you ping Mathias to have him get on it [17:09] mhall119, nope? [17:09] already talking to him [17:10] the problem is that the firewall settings block all outbound connections, this is IS's default settings, so cranberry couldn't fetch the rss feeds [17:10] so we had to make a code change to make it send the requests through their squid server [17:11] ahhh gotcha [17:11] thanks for your continued efforts mhall119 [17:11] np, hopefully it'll all work this time [17:12] :-) [17:12] and Mathias is on it now? [17:14] yup, we're talking in #canonical-sysadmin === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [17:55] * jcastro made a new unity video [17:55] I'd like to thank the academy [17:57] did someone break {LD|LTP} [17:57] AlanBell: yes [17:57] was it czajkowski [17:58] maco's birthday is today [17:58] * czajkowski kicks AlanBell [17:58] oi [17:59] now now, I will take those boots back [17:59] :) [17:59] I got me sooo much taytos and lemonade while home [17:59] big kid [17:59] AlanBell: we're in the middle of an upgrade, should be done soon [18:03] great, no hurry [18:05] having lots of bzr fun :( [18:08] jono: ping [18:08] mhall119, hey [18:09] blogs are up [18:09] right now they're not in chronological order, since they were all imported at the same time, and pleia2's was the last of them to be imported, but new articles will start to show up on top, and it'll scan the feeds every 30 minutes [18:10] but if you want to write a post about it, or if czajkowski wants to, it should show up at the top [18:11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFNnygpvcM [18:11] thoughts pelase [18:11] er, please [18:12] mhall119, nice work! [18:12] I will write something up for sure! [18:12] * pleia2 rulez loco directory [18:12] mhall119, this looks great [18:12] pleia2 ownz [18:13] mhall119, what would be cool for the next iteration is integrated comments using disqus [18:14] and maybe showing the full blog entry instead of the summary [18:14] just to make it even more tabbable :-) [18:14] jono: I think comments should be directed to the source blog, rather than making a separate thread on LD [18:14] mhall119, why? [18:15] so that we don't end up with two comment threads in different places [18:16] I can see the issue with that, but I think centralizing discussion on the site could be good for building community there [18:16] we do that on cloud.ubuntu.com [18:16] jono: file a bug and we'll look into it [18:16] if cloud portal is doing it, we should be able to copy from them [18:16] I think the goal here is to grow a regular stream of readers and contributors, and my worry about comments on the original blog is that it fragments that community [18:16] will do [18:17] thanks for your efforts here mhall119, cjohnston - it looks awesome [18:17] I will blog it right away [18:17] also Ronnie and daker, who both did a lot of work on this [18:18] :-) [18:18] thanks daker [18:18] I fixed the ubuntu-nl feed URL, sorry pleia2 but you just got bumped [18:19] jono: you are welcome :) [18:19] I don't love the idea of comments from my blog posts ending up some disqus site I'll never seen [18:19] -n === daker_ is now known as daker [18:19] I'd really rather have that content on my blog :\ [18:19] tbh, I hate disqus so much I got rid of it from my blog [18:19] so my blog is commentless [18:19] * AlanBell thinks jcastro doesn't have an English keyboard [18:19] alright, I've got to run out for a bit, be back later [18:20] if anything breaks, ping me and I'll look into it then [18:20] doesn't make much difference in this context [18:20] paultag: yeah, I can barely load sites with disqus on my netbook because it's so huge [18:20] it's nuts [18:20] but I assume that was an example, I hope we don't actually use disqus :) [18:21] pleia2: I was able to use an injection attack on tumblr to push stuff onto the page, so I think I can do something similar to hack in my own comment system [18:21] pleia2: but I've not bothered [18:21] heh [18:21] nigelb++; [18:21] I just worry that I won't check the loco directory comments (no time) and so people will make comments and ask questions and they'll go unresponded to, makes me look bad [18:21] is loco.ubuntu.com keeping blog articles forever then? [18:22] pleia2: humm [18:22] if it discards them like a planet does then adding a comments thread would be sub-optimal [18:22] I mean, I license cc-by-sa so you *can* go ahead and copy all my content, but meh [18:22] don't love it [18:24] however, I do like how it is now, nice work mhall119! :D [18:27] pleia2, it wouldnt be a disqus site you have never seen, it would be loco.ubuntu.com [18:27] we could just use normal comments and not disqus if needed [18:27] what is the issue with disqus though? [18:28] as long as it has a mechanism to email the author I guess whatever we use could be ok [18:28] disqus takes a while to load, has lots of widgets and things that make netbooks and the like show [18:28] slow [18:28] I think that's one of the reasons omg stopped using it [18:28] omg is trying some new hot disqus replacement [18:28] might want to check it out [18:29] but I'd personally rather have disqus than whatever home grown thing we have on say, cloud.ubuntu.com [18:29] ok, well I will file the bug and we can discuss there [18:30] ok so I'm supposed to see a blog feed on the front page right? [18:30] and I take it that aggregates from whatever "planet" or blog a loco team defines for itselg? [18:30] nope [18:31] approved teams? [18:31] no, there is nothing configurable for it on the team edit page [18:32] jcastro, it basically shows a set of feeds added to the site [18:32] oh ok [18:32] so like who adds the feeds, the loco council? [18:32] mhall119, this begs a question, how do we want people to propose feeds? [18:32] so it's like planet loco [18:32] basically [18:32] mhall119, maybe folks file a bug? [18:32] jcastro, what's the problem with cloud.ubuntu.com ? [18:32] daker: the comments are :( [18:33] jono: oh dude, on the bottom [18:33] daker, the commenting experience on c.u.c is not as pleasant as disqus [18:33] see the link [18:33] jono: my opinion would be to the council you and randall [18:33] "File a bug" [18:33] do "Submit your feed" or something [18:33] which is really file a bug but rephrased [18:33] jcastro, eh? [18:33] ahhh [18:33] for people to submit their links [18:34] cjohnston, yeah, so maybe people file a bug and then it appears on the site [18:34] "Got your own Local Team Blog? Submit it here!" or some such [18:34] I am thinking we only allow approved teams for now [18:34] thoughts? [18:34] yea [18:34] bug -1 [18:34] it would be a nice benefit for approved teams [18:34] jcastro, agreed [18:34] bug -1 [18:34] eh? [18:34] i dont want a whole bunch of bug mail for adding blogs [18:35] cjohnston, how else do we add them? [18:35] id rather that the LC or whoever make the decision of what blogs to add and do it [18:35] I recommend just mailto:cjohnston@ubuntu.com :p [18:35] jcastro: im fine with that [18:35] cjohnston, well we cant just add blogs, we need a means for people to approve them [18:35] cjohnston, so maybe a wiki page [18:35] Oh I got it [18:35] add a team blog field to LD [18:35] and then if the team is approved let them check a box to have it syndicated [18:35] I will ask if the LC and Randall can approve the feeds [18:35] jono: i agree.. i just dont want to get 20 emails for discussion on if a blog should be added [18:35] cjohnston, makes sense [18:36] there is a wiki page for them [18:36] specially when im not making the decision [18:36] jcastro, we want to do this without additional dev work [18:36] AlanBell, I know, I set it up :-) [18:36] oh [18:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds [18:36] lets use that [18:36] i thought the blogs were to be hand picked from stars in the community [18:36] thats the one [18:36] not just a perk of being an approved team [18:37] cjohnston, at first it was, but I am thinking maybe folks can propose their blog if they are good [18:37] and then the LC or Randall can review the feed [18:37] so we can ensure we get the most content on there as possible [18:37] ok [18:37] sound ok? [18:37] we're bike shedding, it's not like these pop up every week. The LC can pick the obvious ones and then it won't be hard to maintain [18:37] well.. you and the LC should have access to add them [18:37] or we can pick the first set right now [18:37] jcastro, jono, kim0 http://94.23.51.119:8000 and tell me what do you think [18:38] and -2 for spamming mhall119 Ronnie daker nigelb and myself with bugs [18:38] our newest team member isnt jamming with us jono :-( [18:38] daker, nice! that is looking awesome [18:38] daker: looking sweet [18:38] cloud portal v2 (all django no wordpress) :) [18:38] just needs the new ubu logo [18:39] jcastro, we already picked the first set of feeds [18:39] probably the hardest part is gonna be migrating old posts [18:39] I just want to have an answer for the inevitable question of "how do I get my feed on there" [18:39] and I can point them to the wiki page where they can add it [18:39] kim0, i am working on it's almost finished [18:39] on it* [18:39] just a contact link to the council outta be enough right? [18:40] how many new blogs can possibly be popping up every month? [18:40] jcastro, using a wiki page means the LC only have to take a pass once every few weeks [18:40] instead getting a tonne of mail [18:40] ok [18:40] seriously, I think this will be the easiest way [18:40] subscribe to the wiki page [18:40] and yes, we are bikeshedding [18:40] :-) [18:40] AlanBell, yup [18:40] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ubuntu-uk.org/planet/ like we do for the UK planet page [18:40] jcastro might delete the wiki page in a fit of wiki deletions [18:40] can I have the icon in blue? [18:40] cjohnston: hahah, I wasn't going to say it [18:40] but I wanted to [18:41] "oh we're using the wiki for this? Sure fire way to make people not want to care." [18:41] but I'm trying to not be so fatalistic all the time [18:41] the wiki is mostly not broken now [18:41] cause noone uses it? [18:41] if you can log on it is ok [18:42] It's like in Aliens: "What, go outside? With those things running around out there? You can count me out." "Well I guess we can count you out of everything Hudson." [18:42] cause it was fixed [18:43] ok.. i gotta go to work [18:43] latah [18:43] bai2u [18:43] funnily enough the only bit of the wiki left broken is the closed SSO integration that I can't fix [18:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds [18:45] paultag: yo [18:45] dibe [18:45] done [18:45] jcastro: yo [18:45] wiki isn't broken [18:45] http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/k1koi/video_ubuntu_unitys_new_alttab_explained/ [18:46] can I get some upboats? [18:46] jcastro: upgoat away [18:49] excellent [18:49] now to let the flames roll in [18:49] :) [18:49] reddit's sucking lately [18:49] why oh why did I stop lurking [18:50] http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/happyhour.pdf how does that look? [18:51] AlanBell: you should have a blue marker or something on the map showing where the pub actually is [18:51] yeah, can do [18:52] only doing the poster for the first one, want to get it on the fridge door [18:52] * AlanBell will do it in Aubergine [18:53] AlanBell, nice! [18:54] hey so now that I am watching Doctor Who [18:54] AlanBell: your loco needs to take a pic with one of those telephone boxes [18:54] and then take pictures of you all going inside of it [18:54] we have [18:54] and then cut to you partying inside a huge club [18:54] AlanBell: omg, link. [18:54] you do know they have not existed for a *long* time === daker is now known as daker_ [18:55] but there was one in the British Library Science Fiction exhibition [18:55] ooh [18:55] the Books & Butties geeknic [18:55] oh, we were not allowed photos in the exhibition :( [18:55] jono: like next week or something = 4 years at canonical [18:55] hahaha butties [18:56] jcastro, nice! [18:56] yeah my five year anniversary is in three days [18:56] jcastro, love working with you, pal [18:56] :-) [18:56] I am like 1 year 5 days after you [18:56] we have such an awesome team [18:56] WE ARE LIKE AC/DC, AROUND FOREVER. [18:57] haha [19:03] * AlanBell updates http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/happyhour.pdf [19:06] jcastro: find a reason for a business trip to HQ before the 25th of September http://www.bl.uk/sciencefiction/ [19:06] for bonus points make it on the 22nd and come to the Happy Hour [19:08] I think for the LoCo portal feed thing people are going to be confused by the requirement to have posts "about LoCo teams" [19:10]