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dholbachgood morning07:03
bkerensagood morning :)07:50
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mhall119!lococouncil should there be a global event for software freedom day in the loco-directory?14:14
mhall119!loco-council14:15
mhall119is the bot even awake?14:15
nigelbno, it isn't here.14:15
paultagmhall119: what's up14:16
paultagmhall119: if a team wants it, sure :)14:16
paultagno need to just make events willy nilly, but it seems like a cool thing for locos to do14:16
mhall119I was thinking that having a global event made might encourage or inspire loco teams to hold an event14:17
paultagsure14:17
paultagthat's cool14:17
mhall119paultag: I see at least one existing loco team event for SFD: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ni/1160/detail/14:18
paultagmhall119: cool, I'm +1 on it. I see no reason we shouldn't :)14:18
mhall119looks like Venezuela is doing a couple more14:18
mhall119paultag: then do it!14:18
paultagheh14:18
mhall119(please)14:18
paultagmhall119: righto. moment14:18
mhall119heh-count['paultag']++14:19
paultag(i'm making a point to nigelb my text up)14:19
mhall119you should turn your grep-foo towards making a top-10 list of 'heh' users14:19
mhall119call it the heh-of-fame list14:20
paultaghaha14:20
nigelbheh, paultag, of all the brilliant things to do, it has coem down this? we should take off your internet so you can build paulos (using syn package manager)14:20
paultagsynnamon *14:20
mhall119how long until we can start the meme "That's it, I'm switching to Synnamon"?14:21
paultagmhall119: once I push the working .tar.gz (after stuff starts cross compiling nicely - I just hit an issue with the cpp preprocessor )14:23
mhall119cpp preprocessor errors?  That's it, I'm switching to ObscureOS14:24
paultag:)14:25
paultagmhall119: syn's actually getting to be fairly to pretty impressive14:25
mhall119cool, I hope some of the things your doing with it inspire improvements in other package managers too14:26
mhall119you're14:26
mhall119geez14:26
paultagme too. I don't expect anyone will use it, but I'd really love to paint a picture of what could be (for x86 linux powerusers who can tolerate problems)14:27
paultagsort of like "utopia for WASPS"14:27
paultagbut I just have not worked on multi-arch anything, and not even begun to think about non-linux kernels14:27
paultagmhall119: event 1258, sfd - created14:27
mhall119\o/14:32
paultagMan, I wish there was an easy way to pick up (talented) interns of doom to work on free software 14:38
mhall119paultag: do you want to send an email to loco-contacts about the SFD global event?14:45
paultagmhall119: yeah, I'll do that after I take care of some bugs I pulled up14:45
paultagactually screw it, it'll take two seconds14:46
mhall119thanks paultag 15:01
paultagmhall119: sure 'nuf15:07
paultagmhall119: I missed what effie-jax meant by that email15:07
mhall119I'm not even sure who he was talking to. Danny?15:07
czajkowskihmmm15:09
czajkowskipaultag: I guess some would be against it beoing on the LD 15:09
czajkowskidue to ubuntu 15:09
czajkowskiI'm not a fan of SFD namely because they won't work with DFD 15:09
czajkowskibut nice in the LD 15:10
czajkowskibut not big back home we've tried it. but wasn't great 15:10
nigelbDFD? 15:10
czajkowskidocument freedom day!15:10
nigelbAh.15:10
mhall119czajkowski: some out be against having SFD events in LD?15:11
czajkowskiwell it's not an Ubuntu event 15:11
mhall119oh, I understand you now15:11
czajkowskibut if teams are running events I don't see why it shouldnt be created as part of a locoteam event15:12
mhall119I don't think that's what effie-jax was getting at though15:12
czajkowskinot sure about a global event 15:12
czajkowskibut not my call tbh 15:12
paultagczajkowski: but he called me doug or something15:14
paultagczajkowski: and I have no idea what he's talking about15:14
paultagor danny15:14
mhall119it's a pet name15:14
paultag:)15:14
czajkowskipaultag: whats calling you doug got to do with it15:16
nigelbI'm henceforth calling paultag danny15:16
czajkowskiI get called Ms. Czajkowski15:16
czajkowskivery formal and very odd in emails! 15:16
paultagczajkowski: my name's paul, not danny! :)15:17
paultagso I don't even know if he's talking at me!15:17
paultagwho the hell is danny?15:17
leoggpaultag, he's talking about flisol https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-February/005248.html15:17
paultagleogg: well I know what FLISOL is, but I don't know who danny is15:18
leoggpaultag, your secret identity?15:18
paultag:)15:18
czajkowskipaultag: he;s really pro FLOSS and pro FSF an such 15:18
czajkowskinot OSS 15:18
czajkowskiwould correct folks if they say that 15:19
leoggFWIW, I'm not so fond of having a global event for sfd15:19
mhall119oh, I get effie-jax's email now15:19
paultagleogg: why? I'd love to talk about it15:19
mhall119FLISOL didn't want a separate list of events in LD15:19
czajkowskileogg: me neither :(15:19
mhall119it wasn't that we (LD devs and LC) didn't want it there15:19
leoggpaultag, IMHO global events should be for ubuntu global events15:19
czajkowskileogg: +115:19
paultagleogg: if there are more then one event for the LD it'd be nice to have them all under the single global event - if we hold that global events should be ubuntu only then local events should be ubuntu only15:20
leoggotherwise it could be interpreted as we're trying to hijack the event15:20
mhall119leogg: IMO, global events are any world-wide coordinated event that Ubuntu LoCo Teams are participating in15:20
paultagno, I think it shows we're open to collaborating with the wider community15:20
paultagpersonally15:20
leoggwell, not everybody loves us :)15:20
czajkowskiI associate global events with being Ubuntu specific 15:20
czajkowskiotherwise we risk adding every single global event going to it 15:21
paultagleogg: granted - but I think it's a show of good faith if we allow ubuntu teams to "plug into" a global event15:21
leoggczajkowski, yep... me too15:21
mhall119it's mostly turned out that they were ubuntu specifc, bt I don't think they necessarily should be15:21
czajkowskiand that makes a mockery of the LD and of Ubuntu 15:21
mhall119I think any global event that Ubuntu LoCo teams are interested in is appropriate15:21
paultaga mockery would be closing out people, IMHO15:21
czajkowskipaultag: guess this is one we just won't agree on :) 15:22
paultaglooking @ the global event list - events that begin "Ubuntu .. " are Ubuntu events, so it seems like anything else should be something "external"15:22
paultagczajkowski: sure sure15:22
paultagczajkowski: but it'd be nice to have a policy so that we don't make this mistake again (me going off and doing it) - let's push it to the ML?15:23
mhall119which ML?15:23
czajkowskipaultag: sure 15:23
czajkowskimhall119: ours15:23
czajkowskithe LC 15:23
czajkowski:)15:23
mhall119:(15:23
paultagmhall119: It'll be the case where we rough it out on that and present to -contacts with a single face15:25
* mhall119 senses LEP #3 coming, gets the fire extinguisher15:25
paultag:|15:25
paultagmy name is not going to be on #3 if we do it15:25
czajkowskimhall119: no, to be fair we usually create the global events15:25
paultagI've had enough of flames :)15:25
mhall119paultag: just sign it "Danny"15:25
czajkowskiso it's be kinda a good thing for us to work out first 15:25
paultagmhall119: hahahaha15:25
czajkowskiits a given for Ubuntu events15:26
paultagmhall119: I need to get canonical to give me danny@ubuntu.com asap15:26
czajkowskiso how about letting us try and work this out first and come out with some ideas 15:26
mhall119czajkowski: sure15:26
mhall119I'll wait for the email, then say my piece15:26
czajkowskiso not in the mood for more flaming emails again from people and us getting the blame for stuff15:26
czajkowskiI'm just back from holdidays and we;ve other things pending 15:26
czajkowskiso don't expect it any time this week :)15:26
mhall119well if there is an email, it's likely that *someone* is going to start flaming15:27
paultagmhall119: true15:27
czajkowskiand given some are still on holidays it'll be a while yet 15:28
czajkowskino upcoming global events happening soon anyways 15:28
mhall119UGJ starts tomorrow15:29
mhall119or did you mean no SFD events15:29
czajkowskino I mean any future global events that will be added in the future that are non Ubuntu named 15:30
paultagfor now, I think it's OK to leave it. I acted quickly, and for better or worse, we've contridicted ourselves15:30
paultagbut that should be talked about and discussed before we do it again15:30
czajkowskipaultag: I guess it's a case of not all of us agreeing on it tbh 15:30
mhall119hey paultag, could I request a different micro-blogging hashtag?15:30
paultagczajkowski: well yeah, but there's lots of stuff like that, but we always have a single policy we agree on15:30
paultageven if we personally disagree15:30
paultagmhall119: sure15:30
paultagmhall119: what's the tag?15:31
czajkowskipaultag: yup15:31
mhall119paultag: evidently #sfd is currently used for @SexFactsDaily15:31
paultagmhall119: oh jeez15:31
* czajkowski hugs locoteams tag 15:31
paultagah crap15:31
leogghehe15:31
paultagmhall119: what's the "real" tag, or do you want me to remove it / put locoteams ?15:31
mhall119remove it for now, I'll see if there's an official hashtag15:32
mhall119or use #locoteams15:32
mhall119whichever15:32
paultagmhall119: ack'd done15:32
paultagok, I'll use locoteams15:32
paultagdone and done15:32
czajkowskiok going for a nap know 15:33
czajkowskiknackered 15:33
mhall119paultag: it's #SoftwareFreedomDay15:33
czajkowskiup since silly am with travel 15:33
paultagmhall119: roger15:36
paultagmhall119: all set15:36
mhall119paultag: thanks, much nicer that way ;)15:36
paultagI say we stick with SexFactsDaily15:36
MalvoroHi everybody18:14
Malvoroi need ur help 18:14
Malvorosomeone here can help me18:14
Malvorohola18:15
mhall119hi Malvoro 18:16
Malvorohi mhall11918:16
Malvorocan u please help me with something18:16
mhall119maybe, what's the problem?18:16
Malvorowith mount comand18:17
Malvoroi have some problems with a usb i cant mount that and i dont know why 18:17
Malvorocan u please help me with that 18:17
mhall119Malvoro: ask in #ubuntu, that's where all the knowledgeable people hang out and offer support18:19
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Malvorook thanks 18:22
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Malvorohola19:12
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mhall119paultag: ping19:59
Ronniejono: any news about the use of ubuntu-nl in our foundation name?20:42
Ronniecool, the loco blog functionality is online20:43
Ronniemhall119: any reason why our loco feeds are so prominent on the front page?20:43
jonoRonnie, a bit of internal discussion going on, will be in touch soon20:44
jono:-)20:44
jonoapologies for the delay20:44
Ronniejono: i just needed to be sure you did not forget ;)20:45
mhall119Ronnie: it's also an artifact of this being the first time any were updated20:46
jonoRonnie, :-)20:48
paultagmhall119: pong21:32
mhall119paultag: hey, can you update the /topic since we've run the data recovery21:40
mhall119jono: did you see that we recovered missing data earlier this week?21:41
h00kOho! Sweet action, the meeting stuffs?21:41
h00ksorry to interrupt ;)21:42
mhall119h00k: yes, they should be recovered21:44
h00kmhall119: high-five to you. and the rest of the team.21:44
mhall119thanks, we all certainly appreciate it :)21:45
paultagmhall119: yeah let me see if I can op21:46
paultagmhall119: I don't have rights :(21:47
paultagmhall119: try poking irc council21:47
bkerensa=o22:09
bkerensa:D22:09
paultag:)22:20
mhall119paultag: really, LC doesn't have rights to set the topic?23:41
mhall119huh, ok23:41
paultagmhall119: no, it's stupid :)23:41
paultagmhall119: poke irc council23:42
paultagI'll ask for rights at some point, but not now :)23:42
mhall119what's their channel again?23:42
paultagmhall119: #ubuntu-ops I think has a bunch23:43

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