[07:03] good morning [07:50] good morning :) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:14] !lococouncil should there be a global event for software freedom day in the loco-directory? [14:15] !loco-council [14:15] is the bot even awake? [14:15] no, it isn't here. [14:16] mhall119: what's up [14:16] mhall119: if a team wants it, sure :) [14:16] no need to just make events willy nilly, but it seems like a cool thing for locos to do [14:17] I was thinking that having a global event made might encourage or inspire loco teams to hold an event [14:17] sure [14:17] that's cool [14:18] paultag: I see at least one existing loco team event for SFD: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-ni/1160/detail/ [14:18] mhall119: cool, I'm +1 on it. I see no reason we shouldn't :) [14:18] looks like Venezuela is doing a couple more [14:18] paultag: then do it! [14:18] heh [14:18] (please) [14:18] mhall119: righto. moment [14:19] heh-count['paultag']++ [14:19] (i'm making a point to nigelb my text up) [14:19] you should turn your grep-foo towards making a top-10 list of 'heh' users [14:20] call it the heh-of-fame list [14:20] haha [14:20] heh, paultag, of all the brilliant things to do, it has coem down this? we should take off your internet so you can build paulos (using syn package manager) [14:20] synnamon * [14:21] how long until we can start the meme "That's it, I'm switching to Synnamon"? [14:23] mhall119: once I push the working .tar.gz (after stuff starts cross compiling nicely - I just hit an issue with the cpp preprocessor ) [14:24] cpp preprocessor errors? That's it, I'm switching to ObscureOS [14:25] :) [14:25] mhall119: syn's actually getting to be fairly to pretty impressive [14:26] cool, I hope some of the things your doing with it inspire improvements in other package managers too [14:26] you're [14:26] geez [14:27] me too. I don't expect anyone will use it, but I'd really love to paint a picture of what could be (for x86 linux powerusers who can tolerate problems) [14:27] sort of like "utopia for WASPS" [14:27] but I just have not worked on multi-arch anything, and not even begun to think about non-linux kernels [14:27] mhall119: event 1258, sfd - created [14:32] \o/ [14:38] Man, I wish there was an easy way to pick up (talented) interns of doom to work on free software [14:45] paultag: do you want to send an email to loco-contacts about the SFD global event? [14:45] mhall119: yeah, I'll do that after I take care of some bugs I pulled up [14:46] actually screw it, it'll take two seconds [15:01] thanks paultag [15:07] mhall119: sure 'nuf [15:07] mhall119: I missed what effie-jax meant by that email [15:07] I'm not even sure who he was talking to. Danny? [15:09] hmmm [15:09] paultag: I guess some would be against it beoing on the LD [15:09] due to ubuntu [15:09] I'm not a fan of SFD namely because they won't work with DFD [15:10] but nice in the LD [15:10] but not big back home we've tried it. but wasn't great [15:10] DFD? [15:10] document freedom day! [15:10] Ah. [15:11] czajkowski: some out be against having SFD events in LD? [15:11] well it's not an Ubuntu event [15:11] oh, I understand you now [15:12] but if teams are running events I don't see why it shouldnt be created as part of a locoteam event [15:12] I don't think that's what effie-jax was getting at though [15:12] not sure about a global event [15:12] but not my call tbh [15:14] czajkowski: but he called me doug or something [15:14] czajkowski: and I have no idea what he's talking about [15:14] or danny [15:14] it's a pet name [15:14] :) [15:16] paultag: whats calling you doug got to do with it [15:16] I'm henceforth calling paultag danny [15:16] I get called Ms. Czajkowski [15:16] very formal and very odd in emails! [15:17] czajkowski: my name's paul, not danny! :) [15:17] so I don't even know if he's talking at me! [15:17] who the hell is danny? [15:17] paultag, he's talking about flisol https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/loco-contacts/2011-February/005248.html [15:18] leogg: well I know what FLISOL is, but I don't know who danny is [15:18] paultag, your secret identity? [15:18] :) [15:18] paultag: he;s really pro FLOSS and pro FSF an such [15:18] not OSS [15:19] would correct folks if they say that [15:19] FWIW, I'm not so fond of having a global event for sfd [15:19] oh, I get effie-jax's email now [15:19] leogg: why? I'd love to talk about it [15:19] FLISOL didn't want a separate list of events in LD [15:19] leogg: me neither :( [15:19] it wasn't that we (LD devs and LC) didn't want it there [15:19] paultag, IMHO global events should be for ubuntu global events [15:19] leogg: +1 [15:20] leogg: if there are more then one event for the LD it'd be nice to have them all under the single global event - if we hold that global events should be ubuntu only then local events should be ubuntu only [15:20] otherwise it could be interpreted as we're trying to hijack the event [15:20] leogg: IMO, global events are any world-wide coordinated event that Ubuntu LoCo Teams are participating in [15:20] no, I think it shows we're open to collaborating with the wider community [15:20] personally [15:20] well, not everybody loves us :) [15:20] I associate global events with being Ubuntu specific [15:21] otherwise we risk adding every single global event going to it [15:21] leogg: granted - but I think it's a show of good faith if we allow ubuntu teams to "plug into" a global event [15:21] czajkowski, yep... me too [15:21] it's mostly turned out that they were ubuntu specifc, bt I don't think they necessarily should be [15:21] and that makes a mockery of the LD and of Ubuntu [15:21] I think any global event that Ubuntu LoCo teams are interested in is appropriate [15:21] a mockery would be closing out people, IMHO [15:22] paultag: guess this is one we just won't agree on :) [15:22] looking @ the global event list - events that begin "Ubuntu .. " are Ubuntu events, so it seems like anything else should be something "external" [15:22] czajkowski: sure sure [15:23] czajkowski: but it'd be nice to have a policy so that we don't make this mistake again (me going off and doing it) - let's push it to the ML? [15:23] which ML? [15:23] paultag: sure [15:23] mhall119: ours [15:23] the LC [15:23] :) [15:23] :( [15:25] mhall119: It'll be the case where we rough it out on that and present to -contacts with a single face [15:25] * mhall119 senses LEP #3 coming, gets the fire extinguisher [15:25] :| [15:25] my name is not going to be on #3 if we do it [15:25] mhall119: no, to be fair we usually create the global events [15:25] I've had enough of flames :) [15:25] paultag: just sign it "Danny" [15:25] so it's be kinda a good thing for us to work out first [15:25] mhall119: hahahaha [15:26] its a given for Ubuntu events [15:26] mhall119: I need to get canonical to give me danny@ubuntu.com asap [15:26] so how about letting us try and work this out first and come out with some ideas [15:26] czajkowski: sure [15:26] I'll wait for the email, then say my piece [15:26] so not in the mood for more flaming emails again from people and us getting the blame for stuff [15:26] I'm just back from holdidays and we;ve other things pending [15:26] so don't expect it any time this week :) [15:27] well if there is an email, it's likely that *someone* is going to start flaming [15:27] mhall119: true [15:28] and given some are still on holidays it'll be a while yet [15:28] no upcoming global events happening soon anyways [15:29] UGJ starts tomorrow [15:29] or did you mean no SFD events [15:30] no I mean any future global events that will be added in the future that are non Ubuntu named [15:30] for now, I think it's OK to leave it. I acted quickly, and for better or worse, we've contridicted ourselves [15:30] but that should be talked about and discussed before we do it again [15:30] paultag: I guess it's a case of not all of us agreeing on it tbh [15:30] hey paultag, could I request a different micro-blogging hashtag? [15:30] czajkowski: well yeah, but there's lots of stuff like that, but we always have a single policy we agree on [15:30] even if we personally disagree [15:30] mhall119: sure [15:31] mhall119: what's the tag? [15:31] paultag: yup [15:31] paultag: evidently #sfd is currently used for @SexFactsDaily [15:31] mhall119: oh jeez [15:31] * czajkowski hugs locoteams tag [15:31] ah crap [15:31] hehe [15:31] mhall119: what's the "real" tag, or do you want me to remove it / put locoteams ? [15:32] remove it for now, I'll see if there's an official hashtag [15:32] or use #locoteams [15:32] whichever [15:32] mhall119: ack'd done [15:32] ok, I'll use locoteams [15:32] done and done [15:33] ok going for a nap know [15:33] knackered [15:33] paultag: it's #SoftwareFreedomDay [15:33] up since silly am with travel [15:36] mhall119: roger [15:36] mhall119: all set [15:36] paultag: thanks, much nicer that way ;) [15:36] I say we stick with SexFactsDaily [18:14] Hi everybody [18:14] i need ur help [18:14] someone here can help me [18:15] hola [18:16] hi Malvoro [18:16] hi mhall119 [18:16] can u please help me with something [18:16] maybe, what's the problem? [18:17] with mount comand [18:17] i have some problems with a usb i cant mount that and i dont know why [18:17] can u please help me with that [18:19] Malvoro: ask in #ubuntu, that's where all the knowledgeable people hang out and offer support === daker_ is now known as daker [18:22] ok thanks === daker is now known as daker_ [19:12] hola === daker_ is now known as daker === daker is now known as daker_ [19:59] paultag: ping [20:42] jono: any news about the use of ubuntu-nl in our foundation name? [20:43] cool, the loco blog functionality is online [20:43] mhall119: any reason why our loco feeds are so prominent on the front page? [20:44] Ronnie, a bit of internal discussion going on, will be in touch soon [20:44] :-) [20:44] apologies for the delay [20:45] jono: i just needed to be sure you did not forget ;) [20:46] Ronnie: it's also an artifact of this being the first time any were updated [20:48] Ronnie, :-) [21:32] mhall119: pong [21:40] paultag: hey, can you update the /topic since we've run the data recovery [21:41] jono: did you see that we recovered missing data earlier this week? [21:41] Oho! Sweet action, the meeting stuffs? [21:42] sorry to interrupt ;) [21:44] h00k: yes, they should be recovered [21:44] mhall119: high-five to you. and the rest of the team. [21:45] thanks, we all certainly appreciate it :) [21:46] mhall119: yeah let me see if I can op [21:47] mhall119: I don't have rights :( [21:47] mhall119: try poking irc council [22:09] =o [22:09] :D [22:20] :) [23:41] paultag: really, LC doesn't have rights to set the topic? [23:41] huh, ok [23:41] mhall119: no, it's stupid :) [23:42] mhall119: poke irc council [23:42] I'll ask for rights at some point, but not now :) [23:42] what's their channel again? [23:43] mhall119: #ubuntu-ops I think has a bunch