[16:59] <bdrung> asac: what do you think about moving mozilla-devscripts from the Ubuntu Mozilla Team to the Debian mozext team?
[17:01] <asac> bdrung: no strong opinion either way. whatever you feel is the best home!!
[17:01] <asac> check with chrisccoulson in case
[17:01] <bdrung> asac, chrisccoulson: what else is in m-d besides the scripts for xul extensions?
[17:02] <asac> iirc it was logic to easily produce new upstream tarballs etc.
[17:02] <asac> but not sure anymore
[17:02] <asac> ok off to sports
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> yeah, we still use that bit, for now
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> that's likely to change in the coming week or so though
[17:02] <chrisccoulson> other than that, ubufox uses it to build, and that's about it
[17:03] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: what uses ubufox? the normal xul-ext tools?
[17:03] <bdrung> asac: will you remain uploader of m-d?
[17:03] <chrisccoulson> yeah
[17:05] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: anything against moving m-d completely to Debian (maintainer -> pkg-mozext team, vcs -> git) and throwing the old stuff out (will be synced in 12.04)?
[17:05] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, i don't mind. i have no strong opinion either way
[17:05] <chrisccoulson> it's up to you :)
[17:08] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: ok, i will do that then. only dh_xul-ext, install-xpi, xpi-pack, xpi-repack, xpi-unpack, moz-version, and xpi.mk will remain. anything else that should stay?
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, no, i think that's ok
[17:09] <chrisccoulson> we'll stop using all of the other bits in the next week or so, hopefully
[17:09] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: that would be a reason to call the next upload 1.0 :)
[17:10] <chrisccoulson> heh
[17:10] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, are you coming to uds-p btw?
[17:10] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: probably not, but i plan to come to uds-q
[17:10] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, oh, you're going to miss out on the nice relaxing pool ;)
[17:13] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: then i have to go to a  thermal bath instead :)
[17:13] <chrisccoulson> heh :)
[17:14] <bdrung> we have one ~ 40 km away
[17:14] <bdrung> it's a little cheaper than a flight and doesn't take a week :)
[17:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: are you finally switching us to source format 3?
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> micahg, oh, not yet. i hate source format 3
[17:16] <chrisccoulson> source format 3 + bzr = suckiness
[17:17] <bdrung> that's a problem of bzr!
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> but i want to fix how we build the tarballs, so that we automatically pull the right translations from upstream rather than having to do it manually
[17:17] <chrisccoulson> and i want to be able to build a release tarball from a set of changeset ID's (from the upstream buildbot config), so that we don't have to wait for tagging
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> and i also want to add the mozilla rev to the thunderbird package version number for dailies
[17:18] <chrisccoulson> it's just going to be simpler for me to rewrite the whole lot rather than adding more bandaids ;)
[17:23] <chrisccoulson> nice, i stripped the lightning tarball down to 6MB :)
[17:23] <chrisccoulson> (from 84MB)
[17:24] <micahg> ooh, nice :)
[17:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: maybe you can fix that broken nobinonly issue in thunderbird also, last time I dug into it I ended up spawning an endless loop and DOSing myself :-/
[17:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg, yeah, i'll fix that too
[17:26] <chrisccoulson> right, lightning uploading
[17:28] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, i keep getting empty menus in thunderbird
[17:28] <chrisccoulson> but not in firefox
[17:31] <chrisccoulson> and now i just hit this - https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/bp-20be4c72-f8ca-4a36-8008-184352110901
[17:32] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'll be upgrading to oneiric over the weekend, so will be able to stress test TB7
[17:32]  * micahg has ~300k e-mails cached
[17:33] <chrisccoulson> have you seen thunderbird in oneiric?
[17:38] <bdrung> chrisccoulson: m-d was moved to http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-mozext/mozilla-devscripts.git
[17:39] <micahg> chrisccoulson: no, not since v5
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> bdrung, cool, thanks
[17:39] <chrisccoulson> micahg, there's a small screenshot in http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/visual-rundown-oneiric-update-11-10-unity-software-centre-icon/
[17:40] <micahg> I've got to try to update seamonkey once you get the new packaging scheme ready
[17:52] <debfx> chrisccoulson: you have an IP over Avian Carriers network connection? :D
[17:55] <chrisccoulson> heh, indeed :)
[17:55]  * micahg loves that RFC
[17:57] <chrisccoulson> right, that's lightning and enigmail updated everywhere :)
[18:29] <knome> wwwwwd111111aaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[18:29] <micahg> knome: broken keyboard?
[18:30] <knome> oops :)
[18:30] <knome> there is some crap in it
[18:30] <knome> nothing serious
[18:32] <bdrung> don't forget to unplug the keyboard before cleaning it ;)
[18:33] <knome> nah
[18:33] <knome> the occasional "cat on the kb" effect is refreshing
[20:42] <micahg> now I think I got it...
[20:43] <chrisccoulson> micahg, we should probably just set up a dashboard-style page and link to it from the title :)
[20:43] <knome> heh
[20:43] <micahg> would be nice...I wonder if fta will give us the code for his dashboard
[20:44] <chrisccoulson> it's not public?
[20:46] <micahg> idk
[21:18] <dupondje> A big thx to chrisccoulson_  :D
[21:29] <dupondje> closing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-extension/+bug/833508
[21:29] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 833508 in lightning-extension "Lightning is incompatible with Thunderbird 7.0" [Undecided,Fix released]
[21:29] <dupondje> and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightning-extension/+bug/833509
[21:29] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 833509 in lightning-extension "Provider for Google Calendar is incompatible with Thunderbird 7.0" [Undecided,Fix released]
[21:29] <dupondje> :)