| hads | Trying out this mysterious ScriptNo extension as an alternative. Thanks karora | 00:59 |
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| ojwb | it doesn't look very actively developed any more - last update was nearly a week ago... | 01:06 |
| karora | ojwb: ZOMG! A week?! :-) | 01:34 |
| ajmitch | that's like 3 chrome releases worth :) | 01:35 |
| ojwb | karora: if you look at the changelog, prior to that it was unusual not to have an update every day | 01:35 |
| ojwb | so that would be like it being more than a decade since the last debian release | 01:36 |
| karora | Heh. | 01:37 |
| karora | Except that I don't expect Debian to go on a holiday to some unconnected isle. | 01:37 |
| karora | Not that that wouldn't be interesting... | 01:38 |
| karora | I'm really pleased with ScriptNo - it has some useful features over NoSript, which I've used for years. | 01:39 |
| hads | I set it to default allow and somehow it magically blocks Google Analytics anyway, which is neat but confusing. | 02:32 |
| ibeardslee | mwhudson: Are you having a twitter conversation with yourself? | 02:33 |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: yes | 02:34 |
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| hads | I've bounced around over the last couple days. Currently running Xubuntu. | 08:33 |
| chilts | morning | 20:19 |
| mwhudson_ | morning | 20:21 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 20:25 |
| snail | sometimes the wikipedia crowd makes the open source crowd look sane and well balanced... | 20:52 |
| chilts | in fighting? | 20:55 |
| mwhudson | and then there's wikileaks... | 20:56 |
| snail | mwhudson: wikipedia and wikileaks share a syllable in the name and little else | 21:07 |
| snail | chilts: see random stuff at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:Stuartyeates | 21:08 |
| snail | "A Marsupial mole for you!" ---- you have to ask what some people are smoking... | 21:08 |
| chilts | hmm, is that page something just you edit, or anyone? it's a bit random :) | 21:12 |
| chilts | heh, BarnStars, Cookies ... all for you ... reminds me of Flickr with people just making up awards and giving them to all and sundry | 21:14 |
| snail | chilts: it's the place for random people to communicate with me personally (or with the owner of my accounts, which is what wikipedia sees me as). | 21:17 |
| snail | chilts: for privacy reasons wikiepedia essentially has no concept of editors as people, only accounts | 21:18 |
| chilts | I read an article yesterday on the abstraction of users v's accounts v's authentication mechanisms and suchlike | 21:19 |
| chilts | I have thought about it a lot recently, but that clarified a few things for me | 21:19 |
| chilts | (sorry, just changing the topic slightly) :) | 21:20 |
| snail | you know about shibboleth ? https://tuakiri.ac.nz/confluence/display/Tuakiri/Home ? | 21:21 |
| snail | Sat was in town yesterday, maybe still around today | 21:24 |
| thumper | morning | 21:25 |
| chilts | I figure Shibboleth and OpenID are pretty similar, though I don't know the finer details of Shibboleth I must admit | 21:30 |
| snail | Shibboleth has central trusted authorities who issue ids and certify to some level of trust that people are who they say they are | 21:32 |
| snail | Shibboleth has some complex stuff around how much of that identity is released to each service though. some services will see users ID only as a random hash; some will see that + an assertion that they're a STUDENT; some will see that + real name; some will see that + email; ... | 21:35 |
| chilts | sounds complicated :) | 22:33 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 22:36 |
| ojwb | morning | 22:37 |
| ojwb | shibboleth seems an odd name for an authentication system, given its origin (which was to distinguish people's nationality by whether they could pronounce that word or not) | 22:41 |
| * chilts wonders what nationality a Scouser, a Geordie and a Cockney would be under that rule :) | 22:58 | |
| snail | ojwb: it's the first recorded instance of ethnic cleansing, a natural enough name for a protocol for educational use... | 23:26 |
| ojwb | snail: it seems to encourage people to share passwords though | 23:27 |
| snail | ojwb: how so? | 23:27 |
| ojwb | well, the password was the same for everyone... | 23:28 |
| ojwb | i.e. shibboleth pronounced a particular way | 23:28 |
| snail | point taken | 23:28 |
| snail | it's actually quite a sane system | 23:28 |
| ojwb | so not so similar to openid then, eh? | 23:30 |
| snail | ojwb: i suspect that at the SAML level they're probably identical. at the policy level radically different | 23:31 |
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