[00:59] Trying out this mysterious ScriptNo extension as an alternative. Thanks karora [01:06] it doesn't look very actively developed any more - last update was nearly a week ago... [01:34] ojwb: ZOMG! A week?! :-) [01:35] that's like 3 chrome releases worth :) [01:35] karora: if you look at the changelog, prior to that it was unusual not to have an update every day [01:36] so that would be like it being more than a decade since the last debian release [01:37] Heh. [01:37] Except that I don't expect Debian to go on a holiday to some unconnected isle. [01:38] Not that that wouldn't be interesting... [01:39] I'm really pleased with ScriptNo - it has some useful features over NoSript, which I've used for years. [02:32] I set it to default allow and somehow it magically blocks Google Analytics anyway, which is neat but confusing. [02:33] mwhudson: Are you having a twitter conversation with yourself? [02:34] ibeardslee: yes === Milos|Netbook is now known as secondary === secondary is now known as Milos|Netbook [08:33] I've bounced around over the last couple days. Currently running Xubuntu. [20:19] morning [20:21] morning === mwhudson_ is now known as mwhudson [20:25] morning [20:52] sometimes the wikipedia crowd makes the open source crowd look sane and well balanced... [20:55] in fighting? [20:56] and then there's wikileaks... [21:07] mwhudson: wikipedia and wikileaks share a syllable in the name and little else [21:08] chilts: see random stuff at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/User_talk:Stuartyeates [21:08] "A Marsupial mole for you!" ---- you have to ask what some people are smoking... [21:12] hmm, is that page something just you edit, or anyone? it's a bit random :) [21:14] heh, BarnStars, Cookies ... all for you ... reminds me of Flickr with people just making up awards and giving them to all and sundry [21:17] chilts: it's the place for random people to communicate with me personally (or with the owner of my accounts, which is what wikipedia sees me as). [21:18] chilts: for privacy reasons wikiepedia essentially has no concept of editors as people, only accounts [21:19] I read an article yesterday on the abstraction of users v's accounts v's authentication mechanisms and suchlike [21:19] I have thought about it a lot recently, but that clarified a few things for me [21:20] (sorry, just changing the topic slightly) :) [21:21] you know about shibboleth ? https://tuakiri.ac.nz/confluence/display/Tuakiri/Home ? [21:24] Sat was in town yesterday, maybe still around today [21:25] morning [21:30] I figure Shibboleth and OpenID are pretty similar, though I don't know the finer details of Shibboleth I must admit [21:32] Shibboleth has central trusted authorities who issue ids and certify to some level of trust that people are who they say they are [21:35] Shibboleth has some complex stuff around how much of that identity is released to each service though. some services will see users ID only as a random hash; some will see that + an assertion that they're a STUDENT; some will see that + real name; some will see that + email; ... [22:33] sounds complicated :) [22:36] morning [22:37] morning [22:41] shibboleth seems an odd name for an authentication system, given its origin (which was to distinguish people's nationality by whether they could pronounce that word or not) [22:58] * chilts wonders what nationality a Scouser, a Geordie and a Cockney would be under that rule :) [23:26] ojwb: it's the first recorded instance of ethnic cleansing, a natural enough name for a protocol for educational use... [23:27] snail: it seems to encourage people to share passwords though [23:27] ojwb: how so? [23:28] well, the password was the same for everyone... [23:28] i.e. shibboleth pronounced a particular way [23:28] point taken [23:28] it's actually quite a sane system [23:30] so not so similar to openid then, eh? [23:31] ojwb: i suspect that at the SAML level they're probably identical. at the policy level radically different