[02:37] Ubuntu desktop & alternate posted. 20110901. archs: amd64, amd64+mac, i386 [02:53] Ubuntu Studio alternate posted. 20110901. archs: amd64, i386 [03:54] refreshed Edubuntu DVD's just posted to the tracker. 20110901 [05:01] Ubuntu DVD posted. 20110901 [05:41] Kubuntu Desktop posted. 20110901. [07:07] morning === Claudinux is now known as Guest95049 === Guest95049 is now known as Claudinux_ === Claudinux_ is now known as Guest38548 === Guest38548 is now known as Claudinux === Claudinux__ is now known as Claudinux [10:42] chadadavis, morning. Have you been able to test the GPT fix ? [10:43] Yes, it's fixed! [10:44] Thanks to cjwatson [10:44] See bug 837681 [10:47] hooray [10:59] chadadavis, Yay \o/ thanks for verifying the fix [10:59] jibel, happy to help. Won't get through all amd64+mac tests this week, but will do one install test for each of the four ISOs. === Claudinux is now known as Guest9828 [12:34] Daviey, anyone to test iSCSI or you don't care for Beta 1 ? [12:35] jibel: no, we really should test it considering it's prior form. [12:46] Daviey, could your team test it then ? [12:46] please [12:46] jibel: 2 steps ahead of you. :) [12:46] jamespage is saving the day. [12:47] good :) jamespage saved so many days [12:48] jibel: running them now [12:48] I keep my iscsi target setup to make it easier [12:49] \o/ [13:04] Daviey, jibel: hmm - not looking so good - installed OK but won't complete boot ATM [13:04] grr [13:04] 10 minute jobs and all that [13:05] jamespage: bah, maybe it would have been better for us not to test it :) [13:05] im going to push the car back to the top of the hill to see if it crashes again [13:06] jamespage: this time, try to do it without breaking it.. kkthnx [13:06] getting lots of 'recoverable transport errors' [13:06] not good [13:22] Daviey, jibel: nope - not happy - seems to bork when the iscsid starts [13:22] so I'm running a lucid target with oneiric clients which has been good to-date [13:23] jamespage: sounds good.. why did you have to find fault with out otherwise pretty good candidate? :) [13:23] sorry [13:24] I'll raise the bug now [13:25] super! [13:26] why is iscsi so fickle every cycle? [13:27] Hi guys, virtualbox question; if I want to use the same disk file for two installations, how do I go about installing the second installation? Now it just boots directly into the first installation, and doesn't prompt me for a new install dialog. [13:28] You have to shut down the VM, then start it again [13:29] charlie-tca: Right, but the first install is already shut down. [13:30] Well, Powered Off, as it says in the manager. [13:30] Try hitting F12 as it starts? It should give you a choice of drives to boot from, pick cd [13:30] Oh okay, I'll try that, thanks! [13:31] Daviey, jibel: bug 838809 [13:31] I should say I haven't used VBox in a while, since I have to remove and reinstall it with each new kernel [13:31] or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/838809 [13:33] charlie-tca: That was good advice, I realized then that I had to choose the correct .iso first in the Devices menu. Thanks for your help! (once again. :D) [13:33] You are welcome. Glad you got it working [13:34] Yep. :) When's the deadline for beta1 tests? [13:39] today [13:39] jibel: any timeframe yet? [13:41] Damn, gonna get busy. [13:42] since everything got re-built overnight, it is as soon as we know they are valid now [13:51] Right, right. [13:52] Seems that we haven't got a success really attracting testers this time around, I have around 6 more tests to be done, still. [13:56] I think everybody except Ubuntu came up short on testers this milestone [13:56] Damn. That's not good. [13:58] Daviey: appear to impact i386 as well [14:11] sorry, extreemly busy at work :( haven't been able to this time :( [14:16] didn't the kernel iscsi stack get swapped out this cycle? [14:16] or was that just for targets? [14:16] Daviey: because somebody said foundations had to take care of it but we don't really have anyone who desperately cares [14:17] if you want a blunt answer :) [14:17] I wonder if that's yet another case of the networking accidentally getting ripped out from under the iscsi stac [14:17] k [15:22] charlie-tca: what is critical to test now? [15:23] * hggdh got some time available [15:25] I don't think anyting is critical now. [15:26] The last push was at least to make sure these images built last night were working [15:28] hggdh: I have two tests running, then I am done for this release [15:59] charlie-tca: can you confirm what I suspect, in Xubuntu session, both the tray area and the indicator widget thing should come up ? [16:00] cyphermox: yes, they should [16:01] awesome [16:01] Usually missing means something went really wrong with the session [16:01] I'm fixing bug 819617, but I'm trying to avoid showing two instances of NM :) [18:30] interesting. I just installed an UBuntu alternate AMD64, and opted for a command-line system. It did not boot... [18:45] oh-oh [18:45] That is usually a bad thing... [18:46] yeah. Not good at all. I am reinstalling to check [18:46] I think we might have yet another ISO testing bug ;-) [18:47] the interesting part is it was a mistake, I was going to an install on Lucid alternate command-line only, but selected the oneiric ISO... [18:48] hggdh: thanks for the offer today. [18:48] I do appreciate it when people try to help. [18:49] charlie-tca: you are most welcome. And, after all, you always help, why should I be different? [18:49] I usually have more time than most people [18:49] even so... [18:50] you *do* help. This is the whole point, as far as I can understand. The only thing I can do is follow you [18:51] I am happy I can be used as an example, then. Thank you [18:53] argh. Reproducible :-( [18:55] ouch [18:55] I could try it here if you want [18:55] charlie-tca: if you could it would be nice. [18:56] charlie-tca: ubuntu alternate amd64, command-line only (F4 on the initial D-I screen) [18:56] Can do [18:57] I am rebooting right now under rescue, and will reset grub to (1) take out quiet/splash; (2) raise the timeout on grub [18:59] dammit. took out quiet/splash, boot completes [18:59] heh, plymouth bug? [19:02] yes, seems so. I updated grub again to have quiet splash, and I get the hang once more [19:02] yup [19:02] I will open a new bug now [19:03] Okay, I will do this install and try to confirm [19:03] charlie-tca: plymouth? [19:03] yup [19:03] yes, removing quiet/splash makes plymouth not be run [19:04] hum [19:05] splash is provided by plymouth, so if removing splash makes it work, it should be plymouth [19:06] yeah [19:06] let me try some more times, just in case it is some sort of fluke (don't really trust KVM) [19:07] okay, I am installing on hardware here [19:11] heh, now I cannot repeat :-( [19:15] It's probably scared now [19:15] bugs don't like when someone else says they will try it too [19:27] heh [19:31] I assume my monitor shutting off is bad? [19:31] heh [19:32] wait, it came on again when I punched enough keys [19:32] now I get a blinking cursor on F7 [19:32] but I can log in to the the other 6 TTY's [19:33] Is that what is happening there? [19:35] hggdh: It is booting to tty 7, which is the graphical display tty, so there is no image, then my monitor goes into suspended mode. Hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1 wakes the monitor and I can login [19:53] yeah, I was just able to do so (virt-manager was not allowing me to send a ctrl-alt-[1-6] before) [19:54] hum. Anyway, this might be something to look at -- if you are not installing a gaphical env, it makes no sense to have you on vt7 [19:57] but that is set in the grub command line, isn't it? [19:57] right after quiet splash? [20:02] yes, it was -- it is the default [20:03] and this does not make sense, if there is no graphical term [20:05] charlie-tca: I am in doubt -- what is the target for an ISO build option (in this case, disabling vt7 turnover on command-line-only installs) [20:05] ? [20:19] I don't know [20:20] charlie-tca: for the record, opened bug 839051 [20:20] against d-i [20:21] jibel: there still? [20:21] Okay [20:21] charlie-tca: if you could confirm, I would appreciate [20:21] changing vt to 6 on grub line makes no difference here [20:21] oops [20:22] difference is I now can not make the video come back [20:22] heh [20:22] this is why taking a cat out of a bag is a problem [20:25] yup [20:25] Oh, I got it to come back. Just had to wait a bit. [20:25] confirmed the bug [20:26] thank you, sir [20:26] You are welcome, sir [20:26] dare I ask, why do we even have such an installation option when there is a server image? [20:27] well [20:27] not really sure; but there is a difference between the kernels for "desktop" and server [20:28] Seems to me that is trying to be everything for everyone, all in place. [20:28] but if you do a command line install, you have no desktop [20:28] indeed, but it is still the desktop kernel (and its options) [20:28] in effect, you get a command line install from the server image [20:29] I guess they are different, even if the result is the same. [20:29] usually, though, I think this would only make sense to a hacker -- I want to build up a different version of X, for example, and do not want to worry about all crap that gets loaded for ours [20:29] yes indeed [20:29] it might be a left over [20:30] experience says the more options you give, the more chance you have to screw it up [20:30] of course :-) [20:30] but maybe that is just me :) [20:31] this is the beauty of KDE, and the bane of Gnome ;-) [20:32] This too is true [20:33] I guess I use Xfce because I *can* configure it my own way. I could not make gnome work my way. [20:43] there is that... I myself keep jumping between them all (and usually end up with XFCE -- again, and again) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:28] hggdh, pong [21:42] Beta 1 is now released! [21:42] Thank you to Alessio Grosso Sgarrillo, alo21, ameetp, AntonioAllegretti, [21:42] AstralJava, bambi, bennachie, bladernr, chadadavis, charlie-tca, cjwatson, cking, [21:42] Claudinux, cpatrick08, DomenicoRotolo, fader_, Fly82, Fo5150, FrancescoRuvolo, [21:42] gilir, GrueMaster, hggdh, jamespage, JanRathmann, jibel, joru, jp_Hranice, [21:42] kidsodateless, laenzlinger, Lance, Letozaf_, MarcoBuono, marius78, MichaelChou, [21:42] mike holstein, NightSilente, njin, ogra, Otus, PaoloRotolo, P-I H, pitti, [21:42] primes2h, RRRRube, sarhan, ScottK, Scott Lavender, sharkbait, smoser, stgraber, [21:42] superm1, totopalma, vadi2, valix, xdatap1 and zeedune for testing the ISOs. [21:42] The images would not be able to go out today without your efforts! [21:43] Thank YOU, skaet! [21:43] None of it would be possible without you. :) [21:43] Great! Thanks, skaet [21:43] and thank you too [21:43] nice to have participated for my 1st time [21:44] Thank you for all the help, skaet [21:44] chadadavis, all the folks running Ubuntu on mac's owe you and cjwatson a beer. Much appreciate you finding that ugly!! [21:44] glad to have you joru. :) [21:44] skaet, I just broke it, cjwatson fixed it :) [21:45] skaet: a small step for ubuntu and large step for myself =) [21:45] Thanks skaet ! [21:45] And thanks to everyone who help with testing. You rock :) [21:45] chadadavis, knowing there's a problem before all the others feel the pain is so VERY much appreciated! [21:47] The only point in testing ahead, yeah. [21:47] Thank you jibel for getting this all coordinated as well. :) You did an awesome job with this late one. Go sleep [21:48] :) [21:48] Well, not the only, but the most important. [21:49] :) [22:21] hggdh: you need any help testing those? [22:22] charlie-tca: I do not think so -- I had already ran an install with AMD64 this morning, and am running right now a full set on Jenkins [22:22] Okay. Just wanted to make sure [22:22] and the i386 here just as a smoke test [22:22] so I think we are covered [22:22] :-) [22:25] Who wants to have a go at testing ubuntu-server beta1 candidate, last minute respin? :)