[00:01] <nhaines> I'll get around to updating mine eventually.
[00:02] <grantbow-droid> Welcome orangezz to the channel :-)
[00:02] <orangezz> HEY Grant
[00:02] <grantbow-droid> Hey suzie
[00:03] <philipballew> why hello!
[00:05] <orangezz> Hey
[00:06] <grantbow-droid> andchat is useful
[00:08] <pleia2> anyone feel like testing lernid? :)
[00:09] <pleia2> we're doing a testing session over in #ubuntu-classroom and #ubuntu-classroom-chat, just need to install the devel version (we can tell you how)
[00:09] <nhaines> pleia2: how long will it take?
[00:09] <pleia2> nhaines: as long as you can stick around for
[00:10] <pleia2> just test what you can, if you need to leave it's fine
[00:11] <nhaines> Not sure I can tonight.... but I thought since oneiric's becoming a little creaky, why not think about it? :)
[00:11] <pleia2> :)
[00:12] <nhaines> Tomorrow, with beta 1 being released, I'll probably do a reinstall.
[01:10] <pleia2> oh geez, beta is tomorrow, this week is officially too busy
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[06:43] <philipballew> this channel is much more dead at this hour
[06:43]  * philipballew is usually more free this time
[07:41] <bkerensa> :P
[07:41]  * bkerensa knows why he avoids state lug channels sometimes :P
[07:41] <bkerensa> they seem to hate Ubuntu :)
[16:15] <bkerensa> wow
[16:15] <bkerensa> I submitted a conf kit request yesterday and I'm pretty sure they just shipped it this morning because I got a e-mail from UPS saying Merchandise Mania shipped something... When I got my Ubuntu shirt from the UK it was from a similar name
[16:18] <nhaines> bkerensa: maybe you don't remember ordering one of their stylish new hats!
[16:19]  * nhaines waits impatiently for the oneiric Beta 1 announcement.
[16:19] <bkerensa> nhaines: ?
[16:19]  * bkerensa is confused
[16:19] <nhaines> bkerensa: beta 1 is the first milestone where a development image is produced for more widespread testing.
[16:20] <bkerensa> LOL
[16:20] <bkerensa> nhaines: I know what beta 1 is :P but what is this about a hat?
[16:20] <nhaines> :)
[16:20] <nhaines> bkerensa: you got a shipment confirmation from Merchandise Mania.
[16:21] <nhaines> Why wouldn't someone want one of these beauties? http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=878
[16:21] <bkerensa> nhaines: Yes but I did not order any hat..... or anything
[16:21] <bkerensa> =o
[16:21] <bkerensa> they are nice... I have said so in the paste but idk its to early for this :P
[16:22] <nhaines> I wish they're release oneiric shirts already so I could just put in my order now.  :P
[16:23] <nhaines> s/they're/they'd/
[16:25] <bkerensa> I wish they sold stuff in USD so I dont have to convert :)
[16:25] <nhaines> bkerensa: they do.  :)
[16:39] <bkerensa> nhaines: There is no way this is a hat :P it weighs 2.0KGS according to UPS so thats what four pounds?
[16:40] <nhaines> bkerensa: you never know!  Everything's pounds over there...
[16:40] <pleia2> bkerensa: the "currency to view" dropbox is at the bottom of the page in the shop
[16:40] <pleia2> (it used to be more obvious)
[16:42] <bkerensa> oh =o thanks so much.... A week ago I was looking at stuff and didnt wanna calculate prices and then shipping to USD
[16:42] <bkerensa> :D
[16:42]  * bkerensa wishes they made bigger shirts =(
[16:43] <bkerensa> Only 3X they offer is the hoodie.... My natty shirt is a bit snug :P I had to do a bit of scretching
[16:45] <bkerensa> pleia2: Have you checked out Glitch yet?
[16:46] <pleia2> bkerensa: haven't even heard of it
[16:47] <nhaines> pleia2: have you checked out Mutter?
[16:47] <pleia2> you guys are just telling me random words
[16:48] <nhaines> haha
[16:48] <pleia2> :) no
[16:48] <nhaines> pleia2: it's on my list.  :)
[16:51] <bkerensa> glitch.com <--- SF Bay Area developed indy game pretty cool
[16:52] <pleia2> bkerensa: ah, not much of an on-computer gamer these days
[16:52] <bkerensa> =o oh
[16:52] <bkerensa> DnD type? :)
[16:53] <pleia2> consoles
[16:53] <bkerensa> nice!
[16:53]  * bkerensa got a 360 last year and I kind got burnt out I play like 3 hours a day of call of duty blackops =o
[16:54] <bkerensa> plus they keep releasing more maps which = more money gone :P
[16:55] <pleia2> I did go to D&D Experience back in 2008 but that was sorta my last hurrah as far as tabletop games go (and it was after I hadn't played in like 6 years)
[16:56] <nhaines> pleia2: I very successfully DMed a game this year (my first time! :D) with some friends and some kids.
[16:57] <nhaines> What's funny is it was the 9yo who was always doing wacky things and saving the day.  Not quite locked into the computer game "I can only interact with a couple things" box.
[16:58] <nhaines> I should probably start that up again because I spent $150 in books and tiles.  :P
[17:16]  * nhaines is eating bluefin sashimi right now.
[17:18] <bkerensa> :(
[17:18] <bkerensa> sushi
[17:19] <nhaines> My boss caught them yesterday!
[17:20] <pleia2> nhaines: heh, so easy to spend $150 on those books
[17:21] <akk> very fresh!
[17:22] <nhaines> pleia2: I wanted to support my local comic book stores but Amazon was so much cheaper that I basically spent what I would've on the core rulebook set and had enough over for three dungeon tile sets and a couple sets of dice.  :P
[17:22] <nhaines> (I did source the dice locally though.)
[17:23] <MarkDude> Dice are awesome
[17:24] <akk> Sometimes it's hard to support local stores. We were pretty surprised when a new *lawnmower* was way cheaper on amazon than locally (and free shipping!)
[17:24] <MarkDude> I mean I want a whole case of them
[17:24] <MarkDude> A few people bring theirs to Super Nerd Night
[17:35] <kdub_> i now understand why microsoft's products are the way they are... #msvisualstudio
[17:47] <nhaines> kdub_: why's that?
[17:57] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines, SCaLE is in Jan 2012... Did you want to do another Ubucon?
[18:20] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: yes, I've been telling Gareth that since April.  :)
[18:21] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines, I'll make sure you get in... I volunteered to help this year.
[18:21] <DarkwingDuck> With SCaLE that is.
[18:22] <DarkwingDuck> This is my first bit, working on more graphics now. http://people.ubuntu.com/~david.wonderly/SCaLE10/scale_10x_banner_penguin.png
[18:24] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: Gareth and Ilan pretty much assured me a place in SCaLE10X.  They've been nothing but extraordinary from the time Amber Graner approached us and even throughout last Ubucon on short notice.  :)
[18:24] <pleia2> nhaines: I met Ilan!
[18:24] <DarkwingDuck> Yup, Been talking to and working with Ilan online
[18:25] <nhaines> pleia2: Ilan is pretty awesome.  :)
[18:25] <pleia2> he was at the linux picnic, we went all sysadmin geekout
[18:25] <pleia2> I didn't realize who he was until later :)
[18:25] <nhaines> Haha.  :)
[18:25] <pleia2> (this is normal for me, I never know who I'm talking to)
[18:25] <nhaines> (me either, but what's worse is when they all seem to know you!)
[18:26] <pleia2> haha, yeah
[18:26] <nhaines> I'm actually recognized a lot, which baffles me a little but I guess it's a good thing.  :)
[18:26] <pleia2> he asked if I was going to speak at ubucon again
[18:26] <pleia2> wait, you know who I am? neato!
[18:27] <nhaines> haha!  :)  They know everyone and I have no idea how.
[18:27] <nhaines> I just preordered Artificial Heart from Jonathan Coulton.  And I mean I ordered the $100 superfan package.
[18:28] <nhaines> I also got an email with a digital download link with a HUGE album cover image, and then links for the album in 1) lossless AAC, FLAC, 329k MP3, VBR MP3, and Ogg Vorbis.
[18:28] <nhaines> Oh and a link to md5sums!  :D
[18:29] <pleia2> sweet
[18:30] <nhaines> I already have all of his music and mostly for free, so superfan pack seemed the right thing to do.
[18:30] <nhaines> Also now he's going to send me a USB flash drive with all his music.
[18:31]  * nhaines continues waiting patiently for Beta 1.
[18:31]  * pleia2 has xubuntu release announcement at the ready
[18:31] <pleia2> now? now? how about now?
[18:31]  * pleia2 waits
[18:50] <bkerensa> now
[19:29] <MarkDude> Coulton +1
[19:37] <bkerensa> Hmmm 99 cent store is selling Philips 22" flat screen for 99cents in Cali
[19:37] <bkerensa> damn
[19:45] <aaditya> Really?
[19:55] <DarkwingDuck> What?
[19:58] <DarkwingDuck> Yup. http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/408615
[20:00] <aaditya> Damn.
[20:00] <aaditya> wow.
[20:35] <kdub_> DarkwingDuck: /me is trying to think of a scale talk topic
[20:46] <nhaines> kdub_: SCaLE talk topic for you: global asynchronous kernel locks-friend or foe?
[21:04] <nhaines> Oneiric Ocelot Beta 1 was just released! \o/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1
[21:20] <nhaines> Server images seem to be missing this time around though...
[22:44] <akk> Hmm, the release notes mention xubuntu having the onboard keyboard in the menus now, but there's no mention of it for regular ubuntu.
[22:44] <akk> No joy for tablet users yet?
[22:47] <DarkwingDuck> I've used kubuntu on a tablet and it has an on-screen keyboard. I'm saving money for an EXOPC tablet
[22:48] <akk> I have a meego exopc, and you can't use it with a natty livecd without a keyboard attached. Didn't think to try kubuntu -- didn't know it was good for tablets!
[22:49] <DarkwingDuck> The Plasma netbook worked well on the 3 hybred tablets I've used.
[22:49] <DarkwingDuck> I need to get an exopc
[22:51] <akk> cool, I'll have to try plasma netbook some time.
[23:31] <nhaines> akk: It seems to have received a big shrug again this cycle.
[23:31] <nhaines> Although there was a bug or two they squashed.
[23:34] <akk> darn
[23:34] <nhaines> akk: yeah, disappointing.