[00:16] <C_Smith> *is hit with a bowling ball* FINLAND!!!!
[02:11] <C_Smith> hello
[02:11] <jvlb> Howdy.
[02:11] <C_Smith> wassup?
[02:12] <jvlb> Dunno.
[02:12] <C_Smith> just barely made it for the meeting, eh?
[02:12] <jvlb> Well, I guess that remains to be seen.
[02:12] <C_Smith> yeah,
[02:13] <C_Smith> I myself was helping print of directions to Puppetlabs, me not being familiar with portland (save for the route from Salem to OHSU)
[02:13] <C_Smith> none of the people here are.
[02:14] <C_Smith> sitting here watching tv waiting for people to start this thing.
[02:15] <jvlb> I would have expected bkerensa, since he sent out a reminder.
[02:15] <C_Smith> yeah, he may be running late. I myself am a newcomer here.
[02:16] <thefinn93> hey we're supposed to be having a meeting
[02:16] <C_Smith> do you use Pidgin?
[02:16] <C_Smith> yep
[02:16] <thefinn93> wow ok
[02:17] <thefinn93> i'm gonna call bkerensa
[02:17] <C_Smith> jvlb, do you use Pidgin?
[02:18] <thefinn93> ok then, went to Voice Mail
[02:18] <C_Smith> hmmmm, looks like something came up with him?
[02:18] <thefinn93> if he doesn't answer something soon i'm gonna post his number here we can all call it
[02:18] <jvlb> I'm using ChatZilla.
[02:18] <thefinn93> XChat FTW
[02:19] <jvlb> Hunh?
[02:19] <C_Smith> ah, cool, I myself am using Pidgin, all my IM and chats combined into one app.
[02:19] <thefinn93> I tried using Pidgin
[02:19] <thefinn93> for IRC
[02:19] <thefinn93> it was aweful
[02:19] <thefinn93> awful*
[02:19] <thefinn93> really slow
[02:19] <thefinn93> always locked up
[02:19] <thefinn93> then i found XChat
[02:22] <thefinn93> ohh kay he's not showing up
[02:22] <thefinn93> so i'm calling the meeting to order
[02:22] <thefinn93> I should probably have reviewed what i'm supposed to do
[02:22] <thefinn93> oh well
[02:23] <C_Smith> I have the agenda up in firefox now
[02:23] <thefinn93> as do I
[02:23] <C_Smith> cool
[02:23] <thefinn93> the agenda, for those that don't know, is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/11August31
[02:23] <thefinn93> If you have any last minute additions please bring them up at the end
[02:24] <thefinn93> I'll leave time for that
[02:24] <thefinn93> Ok
[02:24] <thefinn93> Item #1
[02:24] <thefinn93> Moving team meeting information to Loco.Ubuntu.com
[02:24] <thefinn93> it appears that ben moved the info to loco.ubuntu.com
[02:24] <thefinn93> or maybe he wants to?
[02:24] <thefinn93> i'm not reallys ure
[02:24] <thefinn93> thoughts on this? comments? suggestions?
[02:25] <C_Smith> I say the move, if it hasn't already happened, should
[02:25] <thefinn93> jvlb, any opinion?
[02:25] <C_Smith> if only for the sake of convenience.
[02:25] <jvlb> Tar baby don't say nothin'
[02:25] <thefinn93> alrighty
[02:25] <thefinn93> anyone else have anything to say?
[02:26] <thefinn93> there are 20 people in this channel
[02:26] <thefinn93> are 17 of them really idling?
[02:26] <C_Smith> it's not unheard of.
[02:26] <thefinn93> true
[02:26] <thefinn93> alright
[02:26] <thefinn93> Item #2
[02:26] <thefinn93> Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs
[02:26] <thefinn93> We're holding the Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs in Portland this Saturday
[02:27] <thefinn93> comments, questions, suggestions, etc?
[02:27] <C_Smith> on that subject, I have this to say, I'll be bringing a couple of packages of cookies.
[02:27] <thefinn93> cool
[02:27] <thefinn93> cookies are good
[02:27] <jvlb> Is there anyone from Salem wishing to carpool?
[02:27] <C_Smith> mainly because I haven't seen them brought up as being brought
[02:28] <C_Smith> I would offer to carpool if I had say in that, but I'm being drivin by my guests.
[02:28] <C_Smith> I have no car, nor license.
[02:28] <jvlb> I have a car and one empty seat.
[02:28] <C_Smith> let me see if I can get them to carpool
[02:29] <jvlb> No big. Just thought I throw that out.
[02:29] <thefinn93> that'd be cool. Carpooling is always good
[02:29] <thefinn93> if we do anything not in Portland I'll probably carpool there
[02:30] <thefinn93> alright
[02:30] <thefinn93> do you wanna work out the car pooling thing?
[02:30] <C_Smith> ok, I have a maybe on the carpool, I can give you a yes or no later.
[02:30] <thefinn93> cool
[02:30] <C_Smith> we have to ask the driver who is driving us, and that's one we have to call.
[02:31] <thefinn93> alright
[02:31] <thefinn93> everyone saw the swag that Ben sent a picture of out?
[02:31] <C_Smith> It'll likely be tomorrow you get an answer.
[02:31] <C_Smith> I saw it, that stuff looks sweet.
[02:31] <thefinn93> yeah
[02:31] <thefinn93> I've also got a box of various Ubuntu stuff
[02:31] <C_Smith> also, a question on that,
[02:32] <thefinn93> yes?
[02:32] <C_Smith> can I get some of that for my guests?
[02:32] <thefinn93> i don't see why not
[02:32] <C_Smith> cool
[02:32] <C_Smith> like I have said before, this is going to be one of the highlights of my weekend.
[02:33] <thefinn93> this is going to be the only thing happening over my weekend
[02:33] <thefinn93> :|
[02:33] <jvlb> Have we finished with item 2?
[02:33] <thefinn93> um
[02:33] <thefinn93> yes
[02:33] <thefinn93> Item #3
[02:33] <thefinn93> Oneiric Release Party Planning
[02:34] <thefinn93> this is totally up to Ben
[02:34] <thefinn93> I'm not even gonna be there
[02:34] <thefinn93> so
[02:34] <jvlb> Call it a party and I'll show up.
[02:34] <thefinn93> does anyone have any ideas, suggestions, etc related to that
[02:34] <thefinn93> alright
[02:34] <thefinn93> anything else?
[02:35] <C_Smith> I'll have to plan ahead for the release party, but if it's on a weekend, I should be able to make it.
[02:35] <thefinn93> ok
[02:35] <thefinn93> alright
[02:35] <jvlb> Is it expected that it will be held at Puppet Labs.
[02:35] <thefinn93> I have no idea
[02:35] <C_Smith> I blame school for that restriction on my time
[02:36] <thefinn93> fair enough
[02:36] <thefinn93> jvlb, I know there was discussion of holding some of the release parties in different cities
[02:37] <jvlb> The Biblical 7-day week may be implicated, as well.
[02:37] <thefinn93> yep
[02:37] <thefinn93> ok
[02:37] <thefinn93> Item #4
[02:37] <thefinn93> Ubuntu Hour
[02:37] <jvlb> I'm in Salem; it's pretty different.
[02:37] <thefinn93> yeah
[02:37] <jvlb> What is Ubuntu Hour?
[02:37] <thefinn93> Good question
[02:37] <thefinn93> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[02:37] <thefinn93> that's what I know
[02:38] <thefinn93> I haven't heard anything about this
[02:38] <thefinn93> any thoughts?
[02:39] <bkerensa> hi all
[02:39] <bkerensa> :D
[02:39] <jvlb> Sounds a bit nebulous.
[02:39] <thefinn93> bkerensa, glad you could join us
[02:39] <bkerensa> Sorry for my tardiness.... I was talking to a realtor/solar company owner
[02:39] <bkerensa> :P
[02:39] <thefinn93> you're only 40 minutes late
[02:39] <thefinn93> ah
[02:39]  * bkerensa slaps thefinn93
[02:39] <bkerensa> ok so where are we?
[02:39]  * thefinn93 demands that bkerensa explain Ubuntu Hour
[02:39] <C_Smith> I can, for one hour, give out Ubuntu CD I make (it'll be a limited amount) if that would count, I can also help other users with their Ubuntu troubles to the best of my ability
[02:40] <C_Smith> gotta love Lightscribe.
[02:40] <bkerensa> ok
[02:40] <C_Smith> I still would have to figure out where I would do this.
[02:40] <bkerensa> So Ubuntu Hour is a event that most locos hold
[02:41] <thefinn93> what does it entail?
[02:41] <bkerensa> its a social hour on a monthly basis that usually includes going to a bar/restaurant/cafe and socializing and talking linux
[02:41] <thefinn93> huh
[02:41] <thefinn93> ok
[02:41] <thefinn93> cool
[02:41] <thefinn93> what did you have in mind for us?
[02:41] <bkerensa> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FHour&ei=4vBeTuDvH4_ViAKOvNTJDg&usg=AFQjCNF4eEN27l86bm-7RJRbvp9Bw_97Fw
[02:41] <C_Smith> well, if I were to attend, It would have to be from the Salem/Keizer area, I have no way to make it up to Portland for that,
[02:41] <jvlb> The description makes it sound a bit presentational, like for the broader public.
[02:41] <bkerensa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[02:42] <bkerensa> thats the wiki for Ubuntu Hour
[02:42] <thefinn93> yeah
[02:42] <bkerensa> C_Smith we will definately look at doing Ubuntu Hour's in Keizer/Salem if there is the demand
[02:42] <C_Smith> being as I am 19, I can't walk into a bar legally.
[02:43] <thefinn93> Same
[02:43] <thefinn93> well
[02:43] <thefinn93> 18
[02:43] <bkerensa> C_Smith well we can go to a restaurant/bar
[02:43] <bkerensa> or even a cafe
[02:43] <bkerensa> its open to our loco's discretion where we hold it
[02:43] <C_Smith> if it helps, I could scope out places in Salem for that.
[02:43] <thefinn93> that'd be awesome
[02:43] <C_Smith> brb
[02:44] <C_Smith> darned dog
[02:44] <thefinn93> :D
[02:44] <C_Smith> too afraid to go out the doggy dorr
[02:44] <C_Smith> *door
[02:44] <thefinn93> alright, anything else on the Ubuntu Hour?
[02:45] <thefinn93> 3
[02:45] <thefinn93> 2
[02:45] <thefinn93> 1
[02:45] <C_Smith> I'll scope out places tomorrow, It'll take me a while, but I should be able to find a place
[02:45] <thefinn93> cool
[02:45] <thefinn93> alright
[02:45] <thefinn93> thanks
[02:45] <thefinn93> ok, last scheduled item
[02:45] <thefinn93> Finding a place in the Willamette Valley for members to hang out at (such as in Salem/Keizer)
[02:46] <bkerensa> C_Smith: I'm unsure if their are internet cafes in Keizer or Salem but that might be a place to start
[02:46] <thefinn93> i guess that's what we're talking about
[02:46] <thefinn93> lol
[02:46] <bkerensa> =o
[02:46] <C_Smith> also, we should revisit item 3
[02:46] <C_Smith> I'll look for those.
[02:46] <thefinn93> yes, now the bkerensa showed up we should
[02:46] <thefinn93> ok
[02:46] <thefinn93> Item #3, this time with bkerensa
[02:46] <thefinn93> Oneiric Release Party Planning
[02:46] <bkerensa> Yes
[02:47] <thefinn93> do tell
[02:47] <bkerensa> So I'm thinking we might have this at Backspace although if PuppetLabs were up to it we could do it there again depending on them
[02:47] <bkerensa> Backspace is nice but I have hit roadblocks making arrangements with them
[02:47] <thefinn93> what about theos?
[02:47] <thefinn93> that's where 2600 meets, it's right next door and much quieter
[02:48] <bkerensa> They always give me a generic response of "Uhh we have lots of concerts and e-mail us" I e-mail and they never respond
[02:48] <C_Smith> I'll have to plan ahead myself, but I'm looking forward to this, if Guests are welcome, I'll have 1-2 other people with me,
[02:48] <thefinn93> cool
[02:48] <bkerensa> I'm unsure if we want to meet at a spot that 2600 meets
[02:48] <bkerensa> jk
[02:48] <bkerensa> :)
[02:48] <thefinn93> it's not like we're gonna over lap
[02:48] <C_Smith> 2600?
[02:48] <thefinn93> http://2600.net/
[02:48] <bkerensa> Theo's is definitely an option
[02:48] <thefinn93> ok
[02:49] <thefinn93> glad to hear
[02:49] <C_Smith> hmmm, I remember seeing that logo somewhere.
[02:49] <thefinn93> yeah
[02:49] <thefinn93> it's a magezine
[02:49] <thefinn93> and monthly meeting
[02:49] <C_Smith> ok
[02:49] <thefinn93> and they all use ubuntu, so, again, no reason we can;t borrow their meeting place
[02:50] <C_Smith> true.
[02:50] <bkerensa> Lets revisit this Oneirc planning at Global Jam
[02:51] <bkerensa> that way I can ponder and we can make some calls
[02:51] <bkerensa> :D
[02:51] <C_Smith> cool, I'll be sure and try to be a part of that.
[02:51] <thefinn93> cool
[02:51] <bkerensa> I have one thing to note.... Finn how many ppl are you bringing? Can we count on any 2600 people? anyone else bringing guests? Also I thought there were five people here finn
[02:51] <C_Smith> and that way I can try and get some of my planning I need done
[02:52] <thefinn93> ok, do we want to discuss the Willamette Vally people meeting some more?
[02:52] <bkerensa> C_Smith: Could you make the Oneiric party if we did it in Portland this time?
[02:52] <C_Smith> I'm bringing probably 4 other people
[02:52] <bkerensa> thefinn93: We will defer on Willamette Valley so C_Smith can get leads
[02:52] <thefinn93> ok
[02:52] <thefinn93> oh and I might bring one person
[02:52] <C_Smith> like I said, I would have to plan it out, but I'd like to make it there. so I'll do my best to make it.
[02:53] <thefinn93> she's not sure if she'll be available
[02:53] <bkerensa> thefinn93: Make it happen :)
[02:53] <thefinn93> working on it
[02:53] <C_Smith> but since it's so far in the future, I might have to say for sure at another time
[02:53] <C_Smith> but what day is it on?
[02:53] <bkerensa> In closing does anyone have any final questions for purposes of the meeting?
[02:53] <bkerensa> C_Smith: OCt 13 or so
[02:53] <C_Smith> k
[02:54] <bkerensa> Any final questions, comments or concerns?
[02:54] <bkerensa> Going once
[02:54] <bkerensa> Going twice
[02:54] <C_Smith> yeah, my foster parents don't plan 2 months ahead.
[02:54] <bkerensa> Sold to the Tux penguin walking out the door :)
[02:54] <thefinn93> wat
[02:54] <C_Smith> xD
[02:54] <thefinn93> ok </meeting>
[02:54] <C_Smith> moce
[02:54]  * bkerensa hereby adjourns this meeting
[02:54] <C_Smith> good
[02:54] <jvlb> Ta.
[02:55] <bkerensa> feel free to talk :)
[02:55] <thefinn93> bkerensa: you gotta do notes this time
[02:55] <bkerensa> I encourage everyone to idle on IRC
[02:55] <thefinn93> cuz I actually showed up
[02:55] <bkerensa> thefinn93: I will
[02:55] <thefinn93> cool
[02:55] <C_Smith> I did have something that was really not that important.
[02:55] <bkerensa> later even
[02:55] <thefinn93> oh?
[02:55] <thefinn93> do tell
[02:55] <bkerensa> C_Smith: feel free to add
[02:55] <C_Smith> but might help other people, making something like a podcast for the team
[02:55]  * bkerensa isnt gonna do meetings till late tonight so
[02:56] <bkerensa> C_Smith: Me and Finn are in the works of that.... It will be called Linuxified
[02:56] <bkerensa> Podcast/UStream even
[02:56] <C_Smith> cool
[02:56] <C_Smith> this would make it easier for members to stay up to date.
[02:56] <thefinn93> yeah
[02:57] <thefinn93> bkerensa, is this gonna be an official Ubuntu Oregon podcast?
[02:57] <bkerensa> Additionally... I'm working on getting a server for the loco for BNC so people can idle easier on irc here
[02:57] <thefinn93> cool
[02:57] <jvlb> So, did you hear what happened when Sarah Palin was told she needed to have a password with eight characters?
[02:57] <bkerensa> thefinn93: It will be a "friends of the loco" cast that way we can do what we choose versus CoC and other rules
[02:58] <thefinn93> ah
[02:58] <bkerensa> jvlb: She said Thomas Jefferson told her 4 was ok?
[02:58] <thefinn93> ok
[02:58] <jvlb> She got a puzzled look on her face, then blurted out, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs."
[02:58] <bkerensa> ;p
[02:58] <thefinn93> :D
[02:59] <jvlb> Good night, all.
[02:59] <C_Smith> when it IS made, please post a link on the wiki, and
[03:00] <C_Smith> and I would like to help there, but I'd need some teaching about Wiki editing.
[03:01] <thefinn93> oh i saw a good guide to that
[03:01] <thefinn93> wiki markdown
[03:01] <C_Smith> the only thing I did to edit the Wiki entries I did, was copy and paste and edit what was needed.
[03:01] <thefinn93> lemme find it
[03:01] <thefinn93> ok
[03:02] <thefinn93> C_Smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page
[03:03] <C_Smith> thank you. that should help out a lot, if needed, using that, I might be able to help with the team Wiki page. can't say for sure, though
[03:03] <thefinn93> cool
[03:03] <C_Smith> just gimme a hollar if you need help with that, and I'll see if I'm feeling confident enough to try
[03:04] <thefinn93> we do
[03:04] <thefinn93> go for it
[03:04] <thefinn93> please
[03:04] <C_Smith> cool, I'll just need to know what needs to be edited ahead of time.
[03:04] <C_Smith> one thing I noticed that was outdated was the team meeting notice.
[03:05] <thefinn93> so update it
[03:05] <bkerensa> Ok guys I gotta run and fix a DOS printing issue... yes I said DOS
[03:05] <thefinn93> DOS
[03:05] <thefinn93> not Denial of Service
[03:05] <bkerensa> C_Smith: Will you be here in a hour or two I can go over the wiki with you then or sometime tomorrow even?
[03:06] <bkerensa> Finn give him my gtalk and FB info if he needs it
[03:06] <bkerensa> ttyl
[03:06] <thefinn93> ok
[03:06] <C_Smith> I'll likely be here for a few hours from now, I stay up at times until 11PM
[03:06] <thefinn93> alright
[03:07] <thefinn93> i'll be here until much too late
[03:07] <thefinn93> ie. 3am
[04:20] <C_Smith> meh, got an automessage and accidentally closed Pidgin.
[04:25] <C_Smith> gah, sound system went missing!
[04:32] <C_Smith> there's my sound.
[04:49]  * bkerensa is back
[04:52] <C_Smith> hey, there.
[04:52] <C_Smith> had to restart several things..... including the whole system
[04:53] <C_Smith> oh, well, everything is working as it should be now! :D
[04:54] <C_Smith> also, I added you in my Email, G+ and Facebook in case you need to get a hang of me, Email so that Thunderbird won't junk it, which is unlikely anyway.
[04:54] <bkerensa> kk
[04:54] <C_Smith> also, you needed to talk to me about something?
[04:54] <bkerensa> as for wiki I wanna wait to after global jam so I can meet with finn friday to discuss a new structure
[04:55] <C_Smith> cool, well, let me know whenever, I'll be sure and have a notepad open when you tell me, curse my horrid memory.
[04:56] <C_Smith> is OSCON usually held around July?
[04:57] <bkerensa> yep
[04:59] <C_Smith> cool, I might have to go there next year,
[05:00] <C_Smith> I gotta get up early tomorrow, gotta go to an appointment that's not for me.
[05:00] <bkerensa> kk
[05:00] <C_Smith> so I'd better get off.
[05:01] <C_Smith> I'll try to find a WiFi cafe tomorrow, though. might do a bit of searching online tonight
[05:01] <C_Smith> have a nice night!
[19:13] <C_Smith> g'day
[19:13] <thefinn93> g'day
[19:13] <thefinn93> want to send someone some lube?
[19:13] <thefinn93> http://www.wetsynergy.com/tryfree.php
[19:13] <thefinn93> they verify the email tho
[19:14] <C_Smith> ummm, no, that's okay.
[19:14] <thefinn93> lol
[19:14] <thefinn93> i sent some to a bunch of my friends
[19:15] <C_Smith> anyway, the reason I came on is a question regarding Oneiric, is the beta relatively safe to install, if I don't care about support? or should I wait for the stable release?
[19:15] <C_Smith> as you probably know, it went beta today.
[19:15] <thefinn93> oh
[19:16] <thefinn93> i wasn't actually aware that it went beta
[19:16] <thefinn93> i imagine it's safe to install
[19:16] <thefinn93> but i don't really know
[19:16] <thefinn93> i have a server in the basement running it
[19:16] <C_Smith> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/ubuntu-11-10-beta-released-reviewed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29&utm_content=FaceBook that
[19:16] <C_Smith> s where I read it.
[19:17] <C_Smith> OMG! Ubuntu has been a fairly reliable source for Ubuntu news.
[19:17] <thefinn93> yeah
[19:17] <C_Smith> but to be safe, I'll install it on a VM first.
[19:17] <thefinn93> alright
[19:17] <C_Smith> now for lunch
[19:18] <thefinn93> damn
[19:18] <thefinn93> no i386 server images
[19:20] <bkerensa> you can always upgrade and then downgrade
[19:20] <bkerensa> same install
[19:46] <C_Smith> hmmmm, well, either way, I'll install it in a VirtualBox (one of the reasons I always have the software handy)
[19:48] <C_Smith> meh, gotta go help someone move at around 3.....
[19:50] <C_Smith> hey, Ben, are you using the Beta?
[19:54] <tgm4883> Beta FTW
[19:57] <C_Smith> yeah, I'm looking into it myself, I'm gonna see how many programs I have installed via repos currently can be installed on Oneiric (Virtualbox will help a lot here)
[19:58] <C_Smith> doubt many of the PPAs I have are upgraded for it.
[20:00] <tgm4883> C_Smith, depending on the program, they may not need to be
[20:01] <C_Smith> cool
[20:01] <C_Smith> there'll likely be at least one, though, I have a lot of PPAs added.
[20:02] <tgm4883> really? what for?
[20:02] <C_Smith> almost all my software not included with Ubuntu is from a PPA, such as Super Boot Manager, Ubuntu Tweak, etc
[20:02] <C_Smith> and Cairo Dock
[20:03] <C_Smith> and a bunch more
[20:04] <C_Smith> I can easily get 2 lists of different PPAs list (excluding the default repos) in the default size of the list in the other software tab.
[20:05] <C_Smith> a lot of my stuff came from browsing Linoob.com and OMG! Ubuntu.
[20:07] <C_Smith> Jono has done it again! what a guy. http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/01/loco-team-portal-gets-blogging-support/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[20:07] <C_Smith> looks like this might be a good change.
[20:08] <tgm4883> Anyone know if the UDS sponsorship list has been sent out yet?
[20:08] <tgm4883> bkerensa, didn't you review an ideapad?
[20:08] <C_Smith> I've no clue.
[20:09] <C_Smith> and unfortunately for us in the LoCo team blog page, they need the team to be approved, and I don't believe we are....
[20:09] <bkerensa> tgm4883: I have one but I probably wont review it for a month.... I got it for two months and got to many other things I gotta review
[20:10] <tgm4883> is that the 7 in for 199?
[20:13] <bkerensa> umm no
[20:13] <bkerensa> the one I got is $499 I think
[20:14] <tgm4883> ah
[20:14] <tgm4883> looking at the specs for the 7in, i'm not as excited as I once was
[20:23] <C_Smith> lol, Dane Cook
[20:27] <bkerensa> The one I have is epic nice
[20:27] <bkerensa> better than a iPad imho
[20:32] <C_Smith> bah, the beta doesn't have CDs....
[20:36] <C_Smith> meh, might as well upgrade.
[20:48] <C_Smith> bah, the upgrade failed..... >.<
[20:49] <C_Smith> oh well, guess I'll wait.
[21:19] <tgm4883> C_Smith, the beta doesn't have CD's?
[21:19] <C_Smith> not on the beta page, the daily build page, does, though.
[21:21] <C_Smith> the Beta page only has DVD images,
[21:25] <tgm4883> C_Smith, where is the beta page?
[21:26] <tgm4883> I'm just looking at the Wiki and it seems fine there
[21:36] <C_Smith> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ <- the page I looked at.
[21:38] <C_Smith> what's the page you were looking at?
[21:40] <tgm4883> C_Smith, the non-dvd page
[21:41] <tgm4883> C_Smith, from here  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1
[21:42] <tgm4883> C_Smith, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/
[21:42] <C_Smith> k
[21:42] <C_Smith> yeah, that had the images I was looking for,
[21:52] <C_Smith> wow.... the upgrade manager finally worked. on the 3rd try
[22:01] <C_Smith> bkarensa, are you waiting for 11.10 to go stable, or are you using the new beta?
[22:07] <bkerensa> I use Natty not sure what im gonna do for oneiric
[22:26] <C_Smith> hmmmm, well, I'm gonna try installing Oneiric Beta 1, if it doesn't go well, I can always go back to Natty.
[22:31] <tgm4883> I use 11.10 with gnome 3
[22:33] <C_Smith> I might have to do that myself, only one of the indicators I use (battery-status) works on Unity.
[23:27] <C_Smith> meh, my connection must not be as good as I thought, several hours to update.