[00:16] *is hit with a bowling ball* FINLAND!!!! [02:11] hello [02:11] Howdy. [02:11] wassup? [02:12] Dunno. [02:12] just barely made it for the meeting, eh? [02:12] Well, I guess that remains to be seen. [02:12] yeah, [02:13] I myself was helping print of directions to Puppetlabs, me not being familiar with portland (save for the route from Salem to OHSU) [02:13] none of the people here are. [02:14] sitting here watching tv waiting for people to start this thing. [02:15] I would have expected bkerensa, since he sent out a reminder. [02:15] yeah, he may be running late. I myself am a newcomer here. [02:16] hey we're supposed to be having a meeting [02:16] do you use Pidgin? [02:16] yep [02:16] wow ok [02:17] i'm gonna call bkerensa [02:17] jvlb, do you use Pidgin? [02:18] ok then, went to Voice Mail [02:18] hmmmm, looks like something came up with him? [02:18] if he doesn't answer something soon i'm gonna post his number here we can all call it [02:18] I'm using ChatZilla. [02:18] XChat FTW [02:19] Hunh? [02:19] ah, cool, I myself am using Pidgin, all my IM and chats combined into one app. [02:19] I tried using Pidgin [02:19] for IRC [02:19] it was aweful [02:19] awful* [02:19] really slow [02:19] always locked up [02:19] then i found XChat [02:22] ohh kay he's not showing up [02:22] so i'm calling the meeting to order [02:22] I should probably have reviewed what i'm supposed to do [02:22] oh well [02:23] I have the agenda up in firefox now [02:23] as do I [02:23] cool [02:23] the agenda, for those that don't know, is located at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OregonTeam/Meetings/11August31 [02:23] If you have any last minute additions please bring them up at the end [02:24] I'll leave time for that [02:24] Ok [02:24] Item #1 [02:24] Moving team meeting information to Loco.Ubuntu.com [02:24] it appears that ben moved the info to loco.ubuntu.com [02:24] or maybe he wants to? [02:24] i'm not reallys ure [02:24] thoughts on this? comments? suggestions? [02:25] I say the move, if it hasn't already happened, should [02:25] jvlb, any opinion? [02:25] if only for the sake of convenience. [02:25] Tar baby don't say nothin' [02:25] alrighty [02:25] anyone else have anything to say? [02:26] there are 20 people in this channel [02:26] are 17 of them really idling? [02:26] it's not unheard of. [02:26] true [02:26] alright [02:26] Item #2 [02:26] Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs [02:26] We're holding the Ubuntu Global Jam at PuppetLabs in Portland this Saturday [02:27] comments, questions, suggestions, etc? [02:27] on that subject, I have this to say, I'll be bringing a couple of packages of cookies. [02:27] cool [02:27] cookies are good [02:27] Is there anyone from Salem wishing to carpool? [02:27] mainly because I haven't seen them brought up as being brought [02:28] I would offer to carpool if I had say in that, but I'm being drivin by my guests. [02:28] I have no car, nor license. [02:28] I have a car and one empty seat. [02:28] let me see if I can get them to carpool [02:29] No big. Just thought I throw that out. [02:29] that'd be cool. Carpooling is always good [02:29] if we do anything not in Portland I'll probably carpool there [02:30] alright [02:30] do you wanna work out the car pooling thing? [02:30] ok, I have a maybe on the carpool, I can give you a yes or no later. [02:30] cool [02:30] we have to ask the driver who is driving us, and that's one we have to call. [02:31] alright [02:31] everyone saw the swag that Ben sent a picture of out? [02:31] It'll likely be tomorrow you get an answer. [02:31] I saw it, that stuff looks sweet. [02:31] yeah [02:31] I've also got a box of various Ubuntu stuff [02:31] also, a question on that, [02:32] yes? [02:32] can I get some of that for my guests? [02:32] i don't see why not [02:32] cool [02:32] like I have said before, this is going to be one of the highlights of my weekend. [02:33] this is going to be the only thing happening over my weekend [02:33] :| [02:33] Have we finished with item 2? [02:33] um [02:33] yes [02:33] Item #3 [02:33] Oneiric Release Party Planning [02:34] this is totally up to Ben [02:34] I'm not even gonna be there [02:34] so [02:34] Call it a party and I'll show up. [02:34] does anyone have any ideas, suggestions, etc related to that [02:34] alright [02:34] anything else? [02:35] I'll have to plan ahead for the release party, but if it's on a weekend, I should be able to make it. [02:35] ok [02:35] alright [02:35] Is it expected that it will be held at Puppet Labs. [02:35] I have no idea [02:35] I blame school for that restriction on my time [02:36] fair enough [02:36] jvlb, I know there was discussion of holding some of the release parties in different cities [02:37] The Biblical 7-day week may be implicated, as well. [02:37] yep [02:37] ok [02:37] Item #4 [02:37] Ubuntu Hour [02:37] I'm in Salem; it's pretty different. [02:37] yeah [02:37] What is Ubuntu Hour? [02:37] Good question [02:37] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour [02:37] that's what I know [02:38] I haven't heard anything about this [02:38] any thoughts? [02:39] hi all [02:39] :D [02:39] Sounds a bit nebulous. [02:39] bkerensa, glad you could join us [02:39] Sorry for my tardiness.... I was talking to a realtor/solar company owner [02:39] :P [02:39] you're only 40 minutes late [02:39] ah [02:39] * bkerensa slaps thefinn93 [02:39] ok so where are we? [02:39] * thefinn93 demands that bkerensa explain Ubuntu Hour [02:39] I can, for one hour, give out Ubuntu CD I make (it'll be a limited amount) if that would count, I can also help other users with their Ubuntu troubles to the best of my ability [02:40] gotta love Lightscribe. [02:40] ok [02:40] I still would have to figure out where I would do this. [02:40] So Ubuntu Hour is a event that most locos hold [02:41] what does it entail? [02:41] its a social hour on a monthly basis that usually includes going to a bar/restaurant/cafe and socializing and talking linux [02:41] huh [02:41] ok [02:41] cool [02:41] what did you have in mind for us? [02:41] http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwiki.ubuntu.com%2FHour&ei=4vBeTuDvH4_ViAKOvNTJDg&usg=AFQjCNF4eEN27l86bm-7RJRbvp9Bw_97Fw [02:41] well, if I were to attend, It would have to be from the Salem/Keizer area, I have no way to make it up to Portland for that, [02:41] The description makes it sound a bit presentational, like for the broader public. [02:41] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour [02:42] thats the wiki for Ubuntu Hour [02:42] yeah [02:42] C_Smith we will definately look at doing Ubuntu Hour's in Keizer/Salem if there is the demand [02:42] being as I am 19, I can't walk into a bar legally. [02:43] Same [02:43] well [02:43] 18 [02:43] C_Smith well we can go to a restaurant/bar [02:43] or even a cafe [02:43] its open to our loco's discretion where we hold it [02:43] if it helps, I could scope out places in Salem for that. [02:43] that'd be awesome [02:43] brb [02:44] darned dog [02:44] :D [02:44] too afraid to go out the doggy dorr [02:44] *door [02:44] alright, anything else on the Ubuntu Hour? [02:45] 3 [02:45] 2 [02:45] 1 [02:45] I'll scope out places tomorrow, It'll take me a while, but I should be able to find a place [02:45] cool [02:45] alright [02:45] thanks [02:45] ok, last scheduled item [02:45] Finding a place in the Willamette Valley for members to hang out at (such as in Salem/Keizer) [02:46] C_Smith: I'm unsure if their are internet cafes in Keizer or Salem but that might be a place to start [02:46] i guess that's what we're talking about [02:46] lol [02:46] =o [02:46] also, we should revisit item 3 [02:46] I'll look for those. [02:46] yes, now the bkerensa showed up we should [02:46] ok [02:46] Item #3, this time with bkerensa [02:46] Oneiric Release Party Planning [02:46] Yes [02:47] do tell [02:47] So I'm thinking we might have this at Backspace although if PuppetLabs were up to it we could do it there again depending on them [02:47] Backspace is nice but I have hit roadblocks making arrangements with them [02:47] what about theos? [02:47] that's where 2600 meets, it's right next door and much quieter [02:48] They always give me a generic response of "Uhh we have lots of concerts and e-mail us" I e-mail and they never respond [02:48] I'll have to plan ahead myself, but I'm looking forward to this, if Guests are welcome, I'll have 1-2 other people with me, [02:48] cool [02:48] I'm unsure if we want to meet at a spot that 2600 meets [02:48] jk [02:48] :) [02:48] it's not like we're gonna over lap [02:48] 2600? [02:48] http://2600.net/ [02:48] Theo's is definitely an option [02:48] ok [02:49] glad to hear [02:49] hmmm, I remember seeing that logo somewhere. [02:49] yeah [02:49] it's a magezine [02:49] and monthly meeting [02:49] ok [02:49] and they all use ubuntu, so, again, no reason we can;t borrow their meeting place [02:50] true. [02:50] Lets revisit this Oneirc planning at Global Jam [02:51] that way I can ponder and we can make some calls [02:51] :D [02:51] cool, I'll be sure and try to be a part of that. [02:51] cool [02:51] I have one thing to note.... Finn how many ppl are you bringing? Can we count on any 2600 people? anyone else bringing guests? Also I thought there were five people here finn [02:51] and that way I can try and get some of my planning I need done [02:52] ok, do we want to discuss the Willamette Vally people meeting some more? [02:52] C_Smith: Could you make the Oneiric party if we did it in Portland this time? [02:52] I'm bringing probably 4 other people [02:52] thefinn93: We will defer on Willamette Valley so C_Smith can get leads [02:52] ok [02:52] oh and I might bring one person [02:52] like I said, I would have to plan it out, but I'd like to make it there. so I'll do my best to make it. [02:53] she's not sure if she'll be available [02:53] thefinn93: Make it happen :) [02:53] working on it [02:53] but since it's so far in the future, I might have to say for sure at another time [02:53] but what day is it on? [02:53] In closing does anyone have any final questions for purposes of the meeting? [02:53] C_Smith: OCt 13 or so [02:53] k [02:54] Any final questions, comments or concerns? [02:54] Going once [02:54] Going twice [02:54] yeah, my foster parents don't plan 2 months ahead. [02:54] Sold to the Tux penguin walking out the door :) [02:54] wat [02:54] xD [02:54] ok [02:54] moce [02:54] * bkerensa hereby adjourns this meeting [02:54] good [02:54] Ta. [02:55] feel free to talk :) [02:55] bkerensa: you gotta do notes this time [02:55] I encourage everyone to idle on IRC [02:55] cuz I actually showed up [02:55] thefinn93: I will [02:55] cool [02:55] I did have something that was really not that important. [02:55] later even [02:55] oh? [02:55] do tell [02:55] C_Smith: feel free to add [02:55] but might help other people, making something like a podcast for the team [02:55] * bkerensa isnt gonna do meetings till late tonight so [02:56] C_Smith: Me and Finn are in the works of that.... It will be called Linuxified [02:56] Podcast/UStream even [02:56] cool [02:56] this would make it easier for members to stay up to date. [02:56] yeah [02:57] bkerensa, is this gonna be an official Ubuntu Oregon podcast? [02:57] Additionally... I'm working on getting a server for the loco for BNC so people can idle easier on irc here [02:57] cool [02:57] So, did you hear what happened when Sarah Palin was told she needed to have a password with eight characters? [02:57] thefinn93: It will be a "friends of the loco" cast that way we can do what we choose versus CoC and other rules [02:58] ah [02:58] jvlb: She said Thomas Jefferson told her 4 was ok? [02:58] ok [02:58] She got a puzzled look on her face, then blurted out, "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs." [02:58] ;p [02:58] :D [02:59] Good night, all. [02:59] when it IS made, please post a link on the wiki, and [03:00] and I would like to help there, but I'd need some teaching about Wiki editing. [03:01] oh i saw a good guide to that [03:01] wiki markdown [03:01] the only thing I did to edit the Wiki entries I did, was copy and paste and edit what was needed. [03:01] lemme find it [03:01] ok [03:02] C_Smith, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:How_to_edit_a_page [03:03] thank you. that should help out a lot, if needed, using that, I might be able to help with the team Wiki page. can't say for sure, though [03:03] cool [03:03] just gimme a hollar if you need help with that, and I'll see if I'm feeling confident enough to try [03:04] we do [03:04] go for it [03:04] please [03:04] cool, I'll just need to know what needs to be edited ahead of time. [03:04] one thing I noticed that was outdated was the team meeting notice. [03:05] so update it [03:05] Ok guys I gotta run and fix a DOS printing issue... yes I said DOS [03:05] DOS [03:05] not Denial of Service [03:05] C_Smith: Will you be here in a hour or two I can go over the wiki with you then or sometime tomorrow even? [03:06] Finn give him my gtalk and FB info if he needs it [03:06] ttyl [03:06] ok [03:06] I'll likely be here for a few hours from now, I stay up at times until 11PM [03:06] alright [03:07] i'll be here until much too late [03:07] ie. 3am [04:20] meh, got an automessage and accidentally closed Pidgin. [04:25] gah, sound system went missing! [04:32] there's my sound. [04:49] * bkerensa is back [04:52] hey, there. [04:52] had to restart several things..... including the whole system [04:53] oh, well, everything is working as it should be now! :D [04:54] also, I added you in my Email, G+ and Facebook in case you need to get a hang of me, Email so that Thunderbird won't junk it, which is unlikely anyway. [04:54] kk [04:54] also, you needed to talk to me about something? [04:54] as for wiki I wanna wait to after global jam so I can meet with finn friday to discuss a new structure [04:55] cool, well, let me know whenever, I'll be sure and have a notepad open when you tell me, curse my horrid memory. [04:56] is OSCON usually held around July? [04:57] yep [04:59] cool, I might have to go there next year, [05:00] I gotta get up early tomorrow, gotta go to an appointment that's not for me. [05:00] kk [05:00] so I'd better get off. [05:01] I'll try to find a WiFi cafe tomorrow, though. might do a bit of searching online tonight [05:01] have a nice night! === leguin.freenode.net changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-or to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Oregon Local Community (LoCo) Team! | Webpage: http://ubuntu-oregon.org (has links to mailing list, forum, and more!) | Ubuntu Global Jam: Saturday, Sept 3rd, 2:00PM at PuppetLabs | Next IRC Meeting: Wednesday, August 31st, 7:00pm PDT, agenda is at http://j.mp/njHtzb - feel free to edit and add your own items | This channel is publicly logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com [19:13] g'day [19:13] g'day [19:13] want to send someone some lube? [19:13] http://www.wetsynergy.com/tryfree.php [19:13] they verify the email tho [19:14] ummm, no, that's okay. [19:14] lol [19:14] i sent some to a bunch of my friends [19:15] anyway, the reason I came on is a question regarding Oneiric, is the beta relatively safe to install, if I don't care about support? or should I wait for the stable release? [19:15] as you probably know, it went beta today. [19:15] oh [19:16] i wasn't actually aware that it went beta [19:16] i imagine it's safe to install [19:16] but i don't really know [19:16] i have a server in the basement running it [19:16] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/ubuntu-11-10-beta-released-reviewed/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG!+Ubuntu!%29&utm_content=FaceBook that [19:16] s where I read it. [19:17] OMG! Ubuntu has been a fairly reliable source for Ubuntu news. [19:17] yeah [19:17] but to be safe, I'll install it on a VM first. [19:17] alright [19:17] now for lunch [19:18] damn [19:18] no i386 server images [19:20] you can always upgrade and then downgrade [19:20] same install [19:46] hmmmm, well, either way, I'll install it in a VirtualBox (one of the reasons I always have the software handy) [19:48] meh, gotta go help someone move at around 3..... [19:50] hey, Ben, are you using the Beta? [19:54] Beta FTW [19:57] yeah, I'm looking into it myself, I'm gonna see how many programs I have installed via repos currently can be installed on Oneiric (Virtualbox will help a lot here) [19:58] doubt many of the PPAs I have are upgraded for it. [20:00] C_Smith, depending on the program, they may not need to be [20:01] cool [20:01] there'll likely be at least one, though, I have a lot of PPAs added. [20:02] really? what for? [20:02] almost all my software not included with Ubuntu is from a PPA, such as Super Boot Manager, Ubuntu Tweak, etc [20:02] and Cairo Dock [20:03] and a bunch more [20:04] I can easily get 2 lists of different PPAs list (excluding the default repos) in the default size of the list in the other software tab. [20:05] a lot of my stuff came from browsing Linoob.com and OMG! Ubuntu. [20:07] Jono has done it again! what a guy. http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/01/loco-team-portal-gets-blogging-support/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter [20:07] looks like this might be a good change. [20:08] Anyone know if the UDS sponsorship list has been sent out yet? [20:08] bkerensa, didn't you review an ideapad? [20:08] I've no clue. [20:09] and unfortunately for us in the LoCo team blog page, they need the team to be approved, and I don't believe we are.... [20:09] tgm4883: I have one but I probably wont review it for a month.... I got it for two months and got to many other things I gotta review [20:10] is that the 7 in for 199? [20:13] umm no [20:13] the one I got is $499 I think [20:14] ah [20:14] looking at the specs for the 7in, i'm not as excited as I once was [20:23] lol, Dane Cook [20:27] The one I have is epic nice [20:27] better than a iPad imho [20:32] bah, the beta doesn't have CDs.... [20:36] meh, might as well upgrade. [20:48] bah, the upgrade failed..... >.< [20:49] oh well, guess I'll wait. [21:19] C_Smith, the beta doesn't have CD's? [21:19] not on the beta page, the daily build page, does, though. [21:21] the Beta page only has DVD images, [21:25] C_Smith, where is the beta page? [21:26] I'm just looking at the Wiki and it seems fine there [21:36] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/oneiric/beta-1/ <- the page I looked at. [21:38] what's the page you were looking at? [21:40] C_Smith, the non-dvd page [21:41] C_Smith, from here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 [21:42] C_Smith, go to http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ [21:42] k [21:42] yeah, that had the images I was looking for, [21:52] wow.... the upgrade manager finally worked. on the 3rd try [22:01] bkarensa, are you waiting for 11.10 to go stable, or are you using the new beta? [22:07] I use Natty not sure what im gonna do for oneiric [22:26] hmmmm, well, I'm gonna try installing Oneiric Beta 1, if it doesn't go well, I can always go back to Natty. [22:31] I use 11.10 with gnome 3 [22:33] I might have to do that myself, only one of the indicators I use (battery-status) works on Unity. [23:27] meh, my connection must not be as good as I thought, several hours to update.