[01:39] <pace_t_zulu> Reminder that we have a meeting tomorrow night ~23 hours from now
[01:44]  * cyberanger enables the annoyobot
[01:45] <Unit193> :D
[02:24]  * wrst installs the daily oneric or however you spell it
[02:48] <Unit193> Oneiric. Ubuntu? (As in, not X/K/L)
[02:53] <wrst> yep Unit193 its really looking much better
[02:56] <Unit193> Tried Lubuntu and Xubuntu earlier this week, LightDM/Ubuntu isn't so nice to Xubuntu :P
[02:56] <Unit193> Lubuntu Software Center isn't looking too bad for a software center!
[02:58] <chris4585> they really labeled it as Lubuntu Software Center?
[02:59] <wrst> the redo of the software center does look nice
[03:15] <Unit193> chris4585: LSC is the pre-name. This is some random person that wanted to do it, not the devs of lubuntu
[03:16] <Unit193> I've not seen the "Ubuntu Software Center"
[03:28] <chris4585> ah
[14:58] <pace_t_zulu> morning fellas
[15:01] <wrst> morning pace_t_zulu
[15:21]  * cyberanger waives
[15:22] <cyberanger> hey pace_t_zulu & Xpistos
[15:23] <Xpistos> what up big pimpin/
[15:24] <cyberanger> not much
[15:42] <pace_t_zulu> morning wrst cyberanger Xpistos
[15:43] <Xpistos> hey pace_t_zulu
[15:43] <wrst> morning
[15:43] <wrst> and hello Xpistos, average_guy
[15:44] <Xpistos> Capo
[15:44] <average_guy> Hey wrst. How r yu today?
[15:44] <wrst> doing good average_guy how is your expirement going?
[15:45] <average_guy> I aborted for now
[15:45] <average_guy> need to read sum more
[15:45]  * cyberanger facepalms
[15:46] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: I'm missing this meeting (got something every thursday now, the conflict with our meetings didn't occur til now)
[15:47] <cyberanger> well, shouldn't say I'm missing it, event starts at 7, seems to end by 8:30, so it's just a matter of how late I am
[15:50] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no worries
[15:50] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: how long will this conflict last .... indefinitely?
[15:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: Xpistos average_guy reminder that we have a meeting at 7:30 pm Central tonight ... if you can make it :)
[15:51] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: will do my best still moving cleaning etc etc i may be in and out
[15:51] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: I can't I am recording tonight
[15:51] <Xpistos> sorry
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: no worries
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: what are you recording?
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: i'm not sure we
[15:53] <Xpistos> podcast
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: i'm not sure we've actually met before
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> but i recognize your name in the channel
[15:53] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: i'm john
[15:54] <Xpistos> average_guy: pace_t_zulu is the HGIC!
[15:54] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: HGIC?
[15:54] <pace_t_zulu> head geek in charge?
[15:54] <Xpistos> PING!
[15:54] <wrst> what does he win Xpistos?
[15:55] <pace_t_zulu> based on other parlance i wont repeat....
[15:55] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos' respect ... finally
[15:55] <pace_t_zulu> ;)
[15:55] <Xpistos> ouch
[15:56]  * Xpistos wonders if anyone can reach that knife in his back
[15:56] <Xpistos> do any of you use Libre or Openoffice base?
[15:57] <wrst> Xpistos: isn't that kinda like access but worse?
[15:58] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: potentially, yes, but too soon to do anything decisive atm
[15:58] <Xpistos> wrst: well for what I use it for it is fine
[15:59] <Unit193> I've used LibreOffice
[15:59] <Xpistos> But I think I may want it to do something It can't
[16:05] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: knife?
[16:05] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: well keep us posted
[16:05] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: is it a thursday night thing? or a night thing or what?
[16:06] <Xpistos> it was a joke
[16:06] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: doesn't matter whatever it is ... just trying to figure out the extent on your schedule
[16:07] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: we won't be moving our meeting time ... but worth considering if you will be unable to attend indefinitely - seeing as how active you are in the LoCo
[16:07] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: as well as the fact that your are East TN PoC
[16:07] <pace_t_zulu> *you are
[16:07] <cyberanger> thursday evening, every week
[16:08] <cyberanger> but no saying how many will make me late, might be that I get on a minute later than everyone else for all I know
[16:11] <Xpistos> Can you edit a query?
[16:18] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: is anyone else in east tn active?
[16:24] <average_guy> pace_t_zulu:Hello John :)  I'm Rob in Knoxville
[16:36] <cyberanger> hey average_guy, that's right, we do have another member again
[16:36] <cyberanger> in east tenn.
[16:37] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: this hasn't even started on thursday yet (something similar has on sunday, this is the first thursday, one planned last week was canceled)
[16:39] <cyberanger> so if I miss this one, so be it, but I think as it gets going, worst case is 10 minutes late, I don't see a youth group meeting beyond 1h 30m, (and 10 minutes to walk, under a minute to drive)
[16:39] <cyberanger> you know me, I step down when I see an issue (I've proven it too) this maybe isn't an issue, but I'm advising you of it in case it is
[16:47] <average_guy> hello cyberanger
[16:48] <cyberanger> average_guy: Cleveland & Maryville myself, glad we're getting some east tn members again
[16:48] <cyberanger> bbiab
[16:48] <cyberanger> errands to be done for the day
[16:53] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i have no doubt that you'll do the right thing ... you always have
[16:54] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: hi rob, nice to proper introductions finally :)
[16:54] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: how long you been stopping in #ubuntu-us-tn
[16:59] <average_guy> pace_t_zulu: not too long, and I'm kinda in and out. It's good ppl with similar intersts tho. Gotta like that..
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: that's what it's all about here
[17:03] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: and we're not going to crucify you for talking about things non-ubuntu
[17:04] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy: we spend plenty of time "off-topic" in here :)
[17:04] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: we spend most time "off-topic" it seems :)
[17:05] <average_guy> lol
[17:08] <wrst> but on topic I tried out the daily of 11.10 last night, its looking good, even unity is not dog awful
[17:08] <wrst> i woudl even say its looking decent
[17:08] <wrst> *would
[17:15] <average_guy> My machine is too old for unity
[17:23] <wrst> ahh :\
[17:23] <wrst> unity 2d isn't bad
[17:24] <Unit193> That would be kinda funny and sad to try Unity on this one...
[17:26] <average_guy> I don't really need/want all the eye candy
[17:28] <Unit193> In my mind they all have eye candy, just Kubuntu has the most
[18:35] <cyberanger> average_guy: and if you want proof about non-ubuntu & anti-ubuntu, ask wrst why he really likes arch & ask me why I'm into debian lately
[18:36]  * wrst nods
[18:37] <cyberanger> he'll prove we do like other distros too & I'll prove some of us actually hate (hate is a such a strong word, fitting since I have such a strong dislike) recent versions of ubuntu
[18:37] <wrst> cyberanger: I think I'm finally getting to a level of understanding that they are all linux at the core its just a matter of what they distros put on top to make things work how they want them to work
[18:38] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah it really is implementation of the kernel that starts the differences (and builds from there)
[18:39] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: yeah, that's the idea, make the right call, at the right time & follow through
[18:40] <wrst> yes cyberanger i'm not to that point yet but i'm down to config files at least :)
[18:41] <cyberanger> wrst: not sure you wanna be at that point, your not doing anything that custom
[18:41] <wrst> no cyberanger I really don't want to be, I have used a couple of custom kernels the RT (real time) for audio and I got worse performance in audio editing using it
[18:42] <cyberanger> even I am barely doing custom work that warrents it (becuase it's literally custom gear, special ordered chips on special ordered boards)
[18:43] <cyberanger> compile squid with extra flags, special wifi patches for custom atheros chips, literally no way around it (some contract work that'll pay off in mutiple ways
[18:46] <wrst> greetings chris4585
[18:47] <average_guy> I'm ok with Ubuntu.  It is a good linux to learn on.  The support community is strong and the interface is windows-like enough for those who don't remember DOS.
[18:48]  * cyberanger remembers MS-Dos, FreeDos, WinDOS & Mac
[18:49] <wrst> I agree average_guy
[18:50] <average_guy> I'm ready for a rolling distribution though
[18:51] <average_guy> been messing with arch
[18:51] <wrst> average_guy: not a real easy to use rolling distro out there, linux mint debian edition probably would be the closest
[18:51]  * wrst thinks its in effect rolling
[18:52] <average_guy> yeah, I ran mint for a while
[18:52] <wrst> average_guy: i like mint sorta but its just a little much fluff for my liking
[18:53] <average_guy> mint 8 is the only version of linux I can get to work on my wife's laptop. No other distro or version.  Anything besides mint 8, and the keyboard no worky
[18:53] <cyberanger> wrst: a little much fluff, I expected that from my mouth, not yours ;-)
[18:54] <wrst> cyberanger: I start out witha  command prompt when i install a system too :P
[18:54] <average_guy> never did figure out why
[18:55] <average_guy> she thinks we're all computer dorks anyway
[18:55] <average_guy> she rocks win7
[18:56] <cyberanger> wrst: thing is, you then toss in compiz & kde, I stay there a bit ;-)
[18:57] <wrst> ha ha no compiz or kde
[18:57] <wrst> not on what I actually use
[18:57] <wrst> its gnome-shell and clutter ;)
[19:01] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: as far as i'm concerned you're still the best man for east tn poc
[19:02] <cyberanger> wrst: sorry, wrong clutter then ;-)
[19:02]  * wrst agrees big time with pace_t_zulu
[19:03] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: glad you think so
[19:03] <cyberanger> wrst: glad you agree
[19:04] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no doubt ...
[19:05] <cyberanger> I do serously think this is a two month concern at worst, once this thing is estlabished, the time it takes will drop some, not many youth groups run longer than an hour, if this runs over an hour & a half for the next 4 weeks, then there will be a reason to think a little harder about what needs to happen
[19:05] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: and rest assured that if i have any concerns - i'll express them to you without hesitation
[19:05] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: privately - of course
[19:06] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: two months is not a significant concern for team meetings
[19:06] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: as you've done before, no doubt about it, we know how to keep snags from holding things back now on
[19:06] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: this time it is, it's two in a row, with a release in oct.
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i just that you inform us on your input (if you have any) for agenda items ahead of the meeting ... as well as read the scrollback from the meetings you miss
[19:07] <cyberanger> but it's two meetings in a row, I can always proxy a concern to you for the meeting
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: that'd be the best way to stay involved given your situation
[19:07] <cyberanger> not two months gone
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: does that sound agreeable?
[19:08] <cyberanger> yeah, and idk if I'm actually gonna wind up missing meetings, or just be a few minutes late (I think 10 minutes late is the more likely senario)
[19:09] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: speaking of which, the cd pool item on the adgenda, if I'm not here, table it for next meeting (unless you wanna go over it) it's gonna be more critical after 11.10's release
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: we can table it
[19:10] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: and just let me know if you have any 11.10 release party plans
[19:11] <cyberanger> atm I do not (well, none that's been gone over with others in the region)
[19:12] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: that's ok ... i understand
[19:12] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: let me know if you have any potential conflicts in case there is some east tn guys keen on a release party so i can give them some tentative help
[19:12] <cyberanger> the first weekend in Nov. has a big confrence in Nashville, PhreakNIC, was thinking that same weekend at first, but kinda nice to go to a confrence at some point this year
[19:12] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: as well as what potential meeting locations youd have
[19:13] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i want to attend that ... its put on by 2600, right?
[19:13] <cyberanger> yeah, well, nashville 2600 (loosely affilated to 2600)
[19:14] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: maybe Ubuntu Tennessee could have a PhreakNIC shindig
[19:14] <cyberanger> not a bad idea
[19:14] <pace_t_zulu> unrelated to the 11.10 release
[19:15] <cyberanger> we have a perkins that seems to be easy to find that knoxville has used for 3 or 4 events now
[19:15] <pace_t_zulu> but rather meant as a means to connect to the local computing community
[19:15] <cyberanger> that would be a likely location, as long as there isn't a more popular request
[19:15] <cyberanger> I agree, best to have some connections to the local hacking & security community
[19:16] <cyberanger> I'm hoping after two years of conflicts (and one car wreak on the very day I was to drive there) I can finally get there
[19:23] <pace_t_zulu> i need to grab a bite
[19:23] <pace_t_zulu> afk
[23:35] <pace_t_zulu> hi chris4585
[23:38] <chris4585> hey pace_t_zulu
[23:38] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585, you know we've got a meeting in  <1 hour?
[23:45] <pace_t_zulu> average_guy cosmicpizza cyberanger excid3 Juzzy orias Svpernova09 twayneprice Unit193 wrst .... reminder that our September meeting is in ~45 minutes at 7:30 pm central