[04:49] <superfly> sp
[05:17] <Langjan> Hi to the boffins. Is there a way to sort out this update glitch? http://slexy.org/view/s2j10QHhI0
[05:30] <Kilos> morning superfly and others though i am sure you are the only one awake
[05:30] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[05:30]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[05:30] <superfly> heya Kilos
[05:30] <superfly> hi Langjan
[05:30] <Kilos> morning Langjan 
[05:32] <Langjan> Hi Kilos and superfly, are you well?
[05:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[05:37] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[05:37] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[05:37] <Kilos> i fine ty
[05:46] <Langjan> This update problem is persevering, any suggestions? http://slexy.org/view/s2j10QHhI0
[05:52] <superfly> Langjan: run "sudo dpkg --configure nvidia-current"
[05:55] <superfly> Langjan: can you see where the error is?
[05:57] <Langjan> No superfly, I have no idea. This is the outcome of your input: http://slexy.org/view/s2oisgE4xr
[05:58] <superfly> Langjan: what can you see in the output of my command?
[05:59] <Langjan> Superfly, see http://slexy.org/view/s2oisgE4xr
[05:59] <superfly> no Langjan, I'm asking you what YOU can see
[05:59] <superfly> Langjan: I'm not going to solve your problem for you, you need to learn
[06:00] <Langjan> OK I agree, thanks but I don't understand. What do I see where?
[06:01] <superfly> Langjan: look at the output of my command, and see if you can find an error message
[06:02] <Langjan> superfly, alternative link /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so is already managed by _gl_conf.
[06:02] <superfly> Langjan: yep, that's the error
[06:03] <superfly> Langjan: now go back to your update output, and see if you can find that error in there
[06:05] <Kilos> oh my. still that one
[06:05] <Langjan> superfly, it started here: Setting up nvidia-current (280.04-0~maverickubuntu3) ...  
[06:06] <superfly> Langjan: yep, that's right... now look at the line just below the error message. what does it say?
[06:07] <Langjan> update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so is already managed by _gl_conf.
[06:07] <superfly> Langjan: and the line after that
[06:07] <Langjan> dpkg: error processing nvidia-current (--configure):
[06:08] <superfly> Langjan: yes, that's it. do you see why I told you to run that other command?
[06:09] <Langjan> yes I do, thanks this makes sense. Now I must try to see why did it not work?
[06:09] <Langjan> update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so is already managed by _gl_conf.
[06:09] <superfly> Langjan: well, it told you why it didn't work, that's the error message, but I am thinking that we might be able to force it to run
[06:13] <superfly> Langjan: try "sudo dpkg --configure --force-overwrite nvidia-current"
[06:15] <Langjan> Same result superfly...
[06:15] <superfly> hrm
[06:16] <Langjan> update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.so is already managed by _gl_conf.
[06:18] <Kilos> this is an ugly one hey
[06:18] <Langjan> looks like.
[06:19] <Langjan> strange thing is everything seems to be working ok
[06:19] <Kilos> but i am learning with you two as you go. it will be fixed
[06:19] <Kilos> oh
[06:20] <superfly> Langjan: yes, it's just nvidia-current, bumblebee and bumblebee-ui that are not configured properly
[06:21] <superfly> Langjan: do me a favour, run this command: "ls -l /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.*"
[06:21] <Langjan> Ok
[06:21] <Kilos> superfly, what would happen if jan purges nvidia-current and then installs it again?
[06:22] <Kilos> for my info only
[06:22] <superfly> Kilos: I''m not too sure, but if I can avoid the purging, I would rather
[06:22] <Kilos> ok ty
[06:22] <Langjan> No such file or directory
[06:23] <superfly> show me the output?
[06:23] <Langjan> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia: No such file or directory
[06:24] <Langjan> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libvdpau_nvidia.*: No such file or directory
[06:25] <superfly> Langjan: weird
[06:26] <Langjan> Thinking maybe I should upgrade to 11.04 but no time for it at present
[06:27] <Langjan> update manager says all updates are done...
[06:30] <Kilos> maybe it is already configured but through that _gl_conf instead of where dpkg wants to do it
[06:30] <Langjan> Tried to reinstall packages: E: nvidia-current: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[06:30] <Langjan> E: bumblebee: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:30] <Langjan> E: bumblebee-ui: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[06:32] <Kilos> Langjan, is there a reason you use bumblebee
[06:33] <Kilos> is there nothing in the repos that will work instead
[06:34] <Langjan> My virtualbox seems to be dependent on it
[06:34] <Kilos> what virtual box software are you using
[06:35] <Kilos> not the virtualbox in synaptic
[06:35] <Langjan> virtualbox OSE
[06:35] <Kilos> this is out of my league so dont listen to me , i am just trying to figure out why it gives probs every update with bumblebee
[06:37] <Langjan> Yes Kilos it was installed via Ubuntu software mgr
[06:37] <Kilos> and bumblebee?
[06:37] <Kilos> i dont see it anywhere
[06:39] <Langjan> 0.9-1~maverickubuntu6 (bumblebee-ui)
[06:39] <Langjan> Kilos, if you search bumblebee on software centre it will show
[06:40] <Kilos> oh. i only use synaptic. software centre is way too slow here
[06:40] <Kilos> does it show in your synaptic
[06:41] <Langjan> superfly, lets leave it for the moment, everything seems to be working fine.
[06:41] <Langjan> Yes Kilos it does
[06:42] <Kilos> try in synaptic then to reinstall it and nvidia-
[06:42] <Langjan> I did, no luck
[06:42] <Kilos> eish
[06:43] <Langjan> OK, am going to love and leave you for now, enjoy a blessed day
[06:43] <Kilos> you too Langjan 
[06:43] <Langjan> thanks kilos
[07:20] <Kilos> sorry superfly i wasnt trying to take over from you. but getting info for me
[07:46] <marcog> tumbleweed: can you send reminders about the global jam to the mailing list and fb event?
[07:50] <superfly> Kilos: no problems, I was busy - had a couple of meetings
[07:50] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[07:51] <Kilos> hiya marcog morgs 
[07:51] <Kilos> lo sdehaan 
[07:59] <morgs> morning
[08:01] <superfly> hiya morgs
[08:01] <morgs> hey superfly 
[10:21] <Kilos> nuvolari, is jy ok seun
[10:24] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[10:25]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[10:25]  * Kilos tries xubuntu 11.04
[10:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[10:29] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[10:29] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[10:31] <nuvolari> lo oom Kilos 
[10:31] <nuvolari> net-net oom
[10:32] <Kilos> ek sien jy nogal besig
[10:39] <Kilos> hi packetboy 
[10:39] <packetboy> sup
[10:40] <Kilos> your first time here?
[10:40] <packetboy> yip
[10:40] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[10:41] <packetboy> ubuntu sounds like a bushman
[10:41] <Kilos> what OS are you using
[10:42] <packetboy> ubuntu
[10:42] <packetboy> u-bun-two
[10:42] <Kilos> thats good and are you happy with it
[10:43] <packetboy> no problems with any os
[10:43] <packetboy> like to learn them all
[10:44] <Kilos> thats good. you one of the clever guys
[10:44] <packetboy> no
[10:45] <Kilos> must be if you dont have probs with windows
[10:45] <Kilos> hehe
[10:45] <packetboy> what problems do you have with windows?
[10:45] <Kilos> oh , actually clever guys dont use windows
[10:46] <packetboy> huh?
[10:46] <Kilos> lol
[10:47] <Kilos> i gave it up coupla years ago because of virusses and lost programs and lotsa srtupid things
[10:47] <Kilos> like not seeing the cdrom at times
[10:47] <packetboy> how did you get a virus?
[10:48] <Kilos> with music one of the times
[10:48] <packetboy> did you play whack-a-mole?
[10:48] <Kilos> and  in mails other times
[10:48] <Kilos> huh?
[10:49] <Kilos> gotta run. be back a bit later
[15:46] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[15:47] <Kilos> you well?
[15:47] <nlsthzn> Hey Uncle Kilos :) Weather a bit better in SA on this Spring day?
[15:47] <Kilos> lol. yeah it be very kiff to have sun that actually warms you
[15:47] <nlsthzn> Oh, I could complain... But it would be unfair in the bigger scheme of things...
[15:48] <Kilos> hehe
[15:51] <Kilos> google what is the ubuntu maverick file manager
[15:52] <Kilos> eish
[15:52] <Kilos> ek sukkel partykeer
[15:52] <nuvolari> Kilos: dis nautilus oom
[15:53] <nuvolari> :P naughtylust *cough*
[15:53] <Kilos> Clol its audacity hey?
[15:53] <nlsthzn> sorry... @ work so I am up and down from infront of the PC... lol @ nuvolari 
[15:53] <Kilos> oh my
[15:53] <nuvolari> Kilos: audacity is an audio editor
[15:53] <nuvolari> lo nlsthzn 
[15:54] <nuvolari> ok, I'm off
[15:54] <nuvolari> cheerz
[15:54] <nlsthzn> nuvolari: bai
[15:54] <Kilos> what is audacity for?
[15:54] <Kilos> aw dankie nuvolari 
[15:54] <Kilos> mooi loop
[15:56] <nlsthzn> it is a application used to work with sound files...
[15:56] <nlsthzn> editing them etc.
[15:57] <Kilos> lol. i get mixed up with all the funny names
[15:57] <nlsthzn> :)
[15:57] <Kilos> hard work to edit music methinks
[15:58] <nlsthzn> As hard as most things in life that are hard before they become easy...
[15:58] <Kilos> hehe
[16:00] <nlsthzn> Also, in most applications you can check in help/about what the name is and version etc...
[16:01] <Kilos> didnt even think of that nlsthzn trying to find why things are opening slow here
[16:02] <Kilos> since the power cuts and the grub recovery giving up the ghost
[16:03] <Kilos> i read that fsck and tried from cd but not sure of what all to put in the command and it kept asking "is it mounted"
[16:03] <Kilos> so i getting closer to a clean install
[16:04] <Kilos> i even install xubuntu onna small drive today to check it out
[16:07] <nlsthzn> Cool... Xubuntu is pretty good... however, if Ubuntu ran OK before, then there is another issue, which is either something to do with what is installed now or a problem with the hardware... if it is hardware related then installing another distro isn't going to help... 
[16:08] <nlsthzn> BTW, if there is a way for me to download all the required repo's etc. and burn them to DVD I will be happy to do this periodically and send disc's to SA to help where bandwidth is an issue...
[16:08] <Kilos> i prefer ubuntu. dont like the close minimise buttons on the right like windows
[16:09] <Kilos> Maaz, google where to download ubuntu repos
[16:09] <Maaz> Kilos: "Repositories/Ubuntu - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu :: "Ubuntu -- Ubuntu Packages Search" http://packages.ubuntu.com/ :: "AptGet/Offline/Repository - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Offline/Repository :: "Medibuntu - Community Ubuntu Documentation" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu :: "Off-line custom repository [Archive] - Ubu
[16:10] <Kilos> but they too big nlsthzn . like 20g i think
[16:12] <Kilos> just send dates 
[16:12] <Kilos> but not with ahab chicks
[16:13] <Kilos> those you chew on
[16:14] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[16:14]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[16:16] <nlsthzn> :) 20GB sounds like 5 or 6 DVD's... easy as pie... as long as there is an easy way to do it :p You like dates Mr. Kilos?
[16:16] <Kilos> hehe i dont remember
[16:18] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[16:18] <Kilos> Maaz, dankie man
[16:18] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[18:03] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[22:03] <Squirm> fp