/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/02/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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nigelbshadeslayer: ping06:42
bulldog98_apachelogger: ok08:07
bulldog98_apachelogger: would it be ok to put series as first argument to kgetsource, since you can do better completion than?08:08
apacheloggerbulldog98_: quite honestly, if you do completion, just drop the stable/unstable altogether08:09
apacheloggersimply query stable/ and unstable/ build a superset of results that match ^\d\.\d\.\d$ and complete with those08:09
apacheloggersince you know out of which set a complete version comes you can auto decide what path to use08:10
apacheloggerincidentially enough that also makes the command more accessible, even without completion08:10
bulldog98_apachelogger: the problem is completion is an other process than kgetsource, so we can’t notify kgetsource which set to use08:12
apacheloggersure, write a helper script that can be used by both kgetsource and the autocompleter08:12
bulldog98_apachelogger: the helper script should give out something like version series and in the completion you can prase out series08:13
apacheloggerautocompleter asks that thing for set of valid versions and autocompletes -> kgetsource kdelibs 4.5.0 -> kgetsource in turn uses the helper script to get a full path for kdelibs version 4.5.008:13
apachelogger(that said helper script might be a bit of a bogus word ... a file with shell functions ... might be better)08:13
apacheloggerthat way you simply need to source it and it will work like a library08:14
bulldog98_It would be better to have version first, since we than can complete also the names, if there should be new names08:14
bulldog98_so kgetsource 4.5.0 kdelibs would be used08:15
apacheloggerbulldog98_: no, two functions get_versions() which returns a list of versions in both stable and unstable, get_full_path(name, version) which returns the ftpmaster url for that version (be it stable or unstable)08:15
apacheloggerbulldog98_: no goody08:15
apacheloggerthat makes it less usable when not using autocompletion08:15
apacheloggerand 90000% of the time one will not autocomplete a name one knows anyway and can type faster than the helper could get the information from ftpmaster08:16
bulldog98_apachelogger: you can cache that information08:16
apacheloggereven so08:17
apachelogger.08:17
bulldog98_that’s what I’m doing with kbzr08:17
apacheloggerapp thing version is the most logical thing08:17
apacheloggerthen you can also at some point drop the version altogether and app thing will fetch thing with the latest versio available08:17
bulldog98_apachelogger: that would be best I think08:18
apacheloggerstill explicit versioning must be support08:18
apacheloggerplus mind you, doing a comparision on 3-component strings in bash is likely a bit of a pain in the behind08:19
apacheloggerlike the only save way to do it that comes to mind would be regexing the string and then comparing the 3 components individually08:19
bulldog98_apachelogger: grep ^\d\.\d\.\d$ works, doesn’t it?08:21
apacheloggergrep?08:21
apacheloggerwtf08:21
apacheloggerbulldog98_: shell surely has builtin regex support08:22
apacheloggerI know bash has08:22
Riddellso, Oneiric Beta, all good to upgrade to?08:22
apacheloggerRiddell: mostly08:23
apacheloggerdepends on your graphics card, as always ^^08:23
apacheloggerfrom the KDE POV it should be good though08:23
* apachelogger wonders how to get to the airport08:23
* bulldog98_ found a way to get the version08:35
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bulldog98apachelogger: how do I make an array out of an command output in bash?08:38
apacheloggerit is by default08:41
apacheloggeryou can iter on a space or tab or newline separated list without doing anything08:41
bulldog98apachelogger: so stable_version=$(command) gives you an array with that?08:45
apacheloggeryup08:47
bulldog98apachelogger: the array is already sorted, because ls -c sorts08:47
bulldog98can I use versions+=$unstable_versions in bash?08:49
apacheloggerwell08:50
apacheloggeryou need to program shell I recon08:50
apacheloggerso that no issues between zsh and bash arise08:50
DarkwingDuckhey guys08:50
apacheloggerso a string concat certainly would be savest08:50
Riddellwhenever I tend to find myself going "can I do X in bash" I usually decide it's time to switch to a real programming language08:50
apacheloggerversion = "${stable_versions} ${unstable_versions}"08:50
apacheloggerRiddell: bash is a real programming language :P08:51
RiddellOneiric Beta is looking good08:51
bulldog98apachelogger: I also could write that stuff in ruby08:51
apacheloggerRiddell: it even can do pointers :P08:51
apacheloggereven if the eval expression is like a line long or so ^^08:51
DarkwingDuckIt's running well, I've been using it since A2 and I like where it's going.08:51
Riddellapachelogger: so is sed, but I don't write anything over 1 line in it08:51
apacheloggerbulldog98: whatever you deem most sensible08:51
* bulldog98 is now learning ruby :)08:52
* apachelogger likes to keep simple things bash08:52
apacheloggeractually I like to keep most scripts bash08:52
apacheloggerlike kde-l10n-common's build ^^08:52
DarkwingDuckapachelogger, why bash when you can perl?08:52
apacheloggerRiddell: well, sed is vastly more cumbersome than sh though IMHO :)08:52
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: cause perl aint on the cd no moar :P08:52
DarkwingDuckAbout time! :P08:53
Riddellit is08:53
apacheloggerwoohooo, I have a way to get to the train station08:53
DarkwingDuckI've actually given up on it.08:53
apacheloggeron perlz?08:54
DarkwingDuckAye08:54
apacheloggerbecause you failed to hack the kdesrc-build? :P08:54
Riddellperl seems to be mostly around due to KDE bits08:54
apacheloggerperl is most universal08:54
DarkwingDuckWell, every time I tried to hack it, it failed out. 08:54
apacheloggerthe meta-repository management script for Qt5 is also perl IIRC08:55
DarkwingDuckPython seems to be a good replacement. 08:55
apacheloggernono08:55
apacheloggerphp08:55
apacheloggerwe should write some php scripts for kubuntu-dev-tools really08:55
DarkwingDuckYeah, learning that.08:55
Riddellamarok-common and kde-runtime both depend on perl08:55
* apachelogger hasn't done php in ages anyway08:55
apacheloggerRiddell: amarok-common? :O08:55
apacheloggeroh, perhaps because of kconfig_update08:56
apacheloggerthose scripts are mostly perl08:56
DarkwingDuckWhat do we need to write/re-write for kubuntu-dev-tools and what is it currently in?08:56
apacheloggerthen again I could not remember amarok ever transiting configs properly so that dep might be bogus08:56
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: bzr branch lp:kubuntu-dev-tools :P08:56
apacheloggerI'd like to have a script that playz 8bit music encoded in plaintext inline in php 08:57
apacheloggerfor in-development entertainment08:57
DarkwingDuckWhy not write it in HTML5? Simplier.08:57
DarkwingDucks/Simplier/Simpler/08:58
kubotuDarkwingDuck meant: "Why not write it in HTML5? Simpler."08:58
apacheloggercauz html5 is a markup language08:58
apacheloggerthat aint suitable for scripts08:58
DarkwingDuckTrue...08:58
Riddellhmm, search doesn't work in Muon08:58
* apachelogger looks for a bag to throw stuff in for paris08:59
* DarkwingDuck raises an eyebrow08:59
apacheloggerRiddell: which muon?08:59
DarkwingDuckRiddell, worked for me yesterday...08:59
Riddellsoftware centre08:59
apacheloggerWFM08:59
Riddellfresh install, can't find anything when doing a search, although it lists everything08:59
apacheloggeroh, it might be waiting for xapian update08:59
DarkwingDuckRiddell, worked for me...08:59
bulldog98apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/680387/08:59
bulldog98apachelogger: better idea09:00
apacheloggerRiddell: better report a bug so that jon the taco can look at it09:00
apacheloggerbut I am reasonable certain it might simply be that the xapian index is not yet built09:00
apacheloggerwhich should probably be reflected in the UI somehow09:00
* apachelogger points out that silly ubuntu software center also fails to display waiting for xapian09:00
DarkwingDucklol09:01
* apachelogger considers software that cant play prn a failure anyway09:02
apacheloggerblimey09:02
apacheloggerthe mooing also does not work09:02
apacheloggerthat is weird09:02
bambeemorning09:07
Riddellguten morgen bambee09:08
Riddellbambee: tu est francais oui?09:08
bambeeRiddell: yes I am09:10
Riddellbambee: si je loue un cololocation qu'est-ce que c'est un "F3"?09:11
Riddellpour example http://www.leboncoin.fr/colocations/230081894.htm?ca=23_s09:15
bambeeRiddell: F3 veut dire , 3 pièces (ou 3 salles) dont 2 chambres 09:23
bambeeF3 = usually means, 3 rooms and 2 bedrooms09:23
bambeethis one :   area => 61 m²09:24
Riddellbambee: is there a key to that?  I see other terms like T3 too09:26
rbelemmorning09:26
* rbelem pokes Quintasan_ 09:27
bambeeRiddell: T3 and F3 means the same thing => 3 rooms, in these 3 rooms you can have 2 bedrooms and 1 sitting room for example09:31
bambeeor 1 bedrooms and two other rooms09:31
bambeeTN = N means the number of rooms , usually everything is explained in the description , for this one it's a F3/T3 with 2 bedrooms and 1 sitting room  (the sitting room, the kitchen are in the same room) 09:32
bambeewarning: no internet09:33
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bambeeRiddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/680421/09:39
bambee(I translated it for you)09:39
Riddellbambee: so what's the difference between F3 and T3?09:45
bambeeRiddell: it's the same thing09:47
Riddelltrès déroutant :)09:47
* bambee wonders if his translation is understandable :\\09:48
bambeeRiddell: do you learn french ? :)09:48
Riddellbambee: I hope to move to guadeloupe to learn it09:49
bambeewoo!09:49
shadeslayernigelb: pong11:05
shadeslayeri be packaging :D11:05
ScottK!ninjas11:08
ubottuNinja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger, yofel11:08
ScottK4.7.1 tarballs wanting packaging ....11:08
shadeslayeryus11:11
* bulldog98 will push my new helper script and then I’m till round 9 UTC11:19
* bulldog98 will do some packaging this evening, tomorrow I won’t have time the garden needs some love and my parents kill me if I don’t help them11:21
=== bambee changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Feature Freeze in effect - 11.10 Beta 1 Released | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html  | TODO: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
shadeslayerhuh weird11:51
shadeslayermy system doesn't start swapping after it runs out of memory on tempfs11:51
James147shadeslayer: if i remember right by default tmpfs mounts with a size of half your max ram ^^11:55
shadeslayerah ..11:56
shadeslayerJames147: can i override it with a max size in fstab?11:56
shadeslayerssh 11:56
James147shadeslayer: with size=xG option i think11:56
shadeslayerwhoops11:56
shadeslayerright11:56
James147shadeslayer: you can also use size=x%  :)11:57
shadeslayerwhat does that do?11:58
shadeslayerah11:58
James147% of physical ram11:58
shadeslayerJames147: percentage of my RAM?11:58
shadeslayeryeah11:58
shadeslayeri gave it 2.5 gigs now11:58
shadeslayershould be enough11:58
ScottKsteveire: Could you have a look at Bug #707878, it seems to be piling up duplicates, so something must be up ...11:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 707878 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "akonadi_agent_launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in QThreadStorage<QFontCache*>::deleteData()" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70787811:59
shadeslayertmpfs + icecc = build output flying off the screen12:00
steveire_ScottK: Ok12:01
shadeslayerJames147: it should start swapping once it reaches a critical limit right?12:03
* James147 dosnt know... he has never tested it to its limit12:03
James147^^ but I dont see why not12:04
shadeslayerwell : tmpfs                 2.6G  1.8G  793M  70% /var/cache/pbuilder/build12:04
Quintasan_first day in school == three tests next week12:32
Quintasan_wtf12:32
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shadeslayerQuintasan: i hear ya12:34
bambeeQuintasan: seriously? teachers suck... o.O12:34
shadeslayerschool sucks :P12:35
bambee+112:35
ryanakcaScottK: Sorry, never checked IRC yesterday. Thanks to whoever took care of the Beta1 announcement though12:35
shadeslayerbambee: i can haz meta kde?12:36
steveire_How do I link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/707878 to its upstream bug?12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 707878 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "akonadi_agent_launcher crashed with SIGSEGV in QThreadStorage<QFontCache*>::deleteData()" [High,Confirmed]12:36
Quintasansteveire_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/707878/+choose-affected-product12:37
bambeeshadeslayer: already pushed to ninjas12:37
shadeslayeralright12:37
bambeebuilding12:37
bambeedoes anyone have random mouse freezes ?12:39
steveire_Quintasan: 'Launchpad does not recognize the bug tracker at this URL.'12:40
steveire_http://bugs.kde.org/26178812:40
ubottuKDE bug 261788 in general "akonadi_agent_launcher segfaults when stopping the Akonadi server" [Crash,New]12:40
shadeslayerhmm12:41
Quintasanwtf12:41
shadeslayerany ideas if i can install ubuntu core on a system12:41
shadeslayerlike .. is there a ISO somewhere?12:41
shadeslayerall i need is a installer and a base system for a offline install12:43
ScottKryanakca: No problem (it was me - I've got the passwords stored more than one place now, so I can find them.)12:43
ryanakcaHehe :)12:44
QuintasanScottK: Can you enlighten me and steveire_ how to link to bug reports in foreign bug trackers in LP?12:44
* ScottK looks12:45
shadeslayer!find xine.pm12:45
ubottuFile xine.pm found in libxine-dev12:45
ScottKQuintasan: Open the > by Akonadi (not akonadi(Ubuntu)) and paste the b.k.o URL into the URL box under remote watch.12:47
ScottKsteveire: ^^^12:47
QuintasanThere is 1 error in the data you entered. Please fix it and try again.12:47
Quintasan^_^12:47
* ScottK tries.12:47
shadeslayerlunchpad does not want to hold hands with b.k.o :P12:47
QuintasanIt's the other way around12:48
ScottKNo.  Apparently apachelogger needs to configure something.12:49
ScottKQuintasan: Ask in #launchpad.  I'm not sure why that doesn't work.12:49
shadeslayerQuintasan: steveire_ ScottK fixed12:59
shadeslayeryou need the XML link to the bug12:59
ScottK?12:59
ScottKXML12:59
shadeslayerhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?ctype=xml&id=261788 << this one12:59
shadeslayerthe one that displays XML info12:59
ScottKI see.12:59
shadeslayerthats what LP parses iirc12:59
ScottKLP should know how to get that from the regular URL.  12:59
ScottKshadeslayer: Would you file a bug against LP about that?13:00
shadeslayeryes, quite weird that it didn't know how to do that13:00
shadeslayerScottK: sure13:00
ScottKThanks.13:00
Quintasanbbl13:01
shadeslayeri'll just try and fix it as well13:02
didrocksScottK: ok, I'm pushing the new Qt to a ppa, I'll open the FFe and assign it to you rather than the release team? (also a question on bug #602913), it's the new appmenu which fixes it, isn't it? (that's what the plasma is using?)13:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 602913 in plasma-widget-menubar (Ubuntu) "Doesn't work with applications started from a saved session" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60291313:04
ScottKdidrocks: Go ahead and subscribe the release team, but I'll look at it.13:05
didrocksScottK: ok, will do13:05
ScottKThe issue you pointed me to yesterday sounded like the same issue p-w-menubar was having in that bug.  I'd have to ask agateau which package the fix would actually be in.13:05
ScottKdidrocks: Will you also take care of the FFe for the new appmenu-qt?13:06
shadeslayerbug 83954313:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 839543 in Launchpad itself "Launchpad cannot track bugs.kde.org reports anymore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83954313:06
didrocksScottK: ok, I won't upload before Monday anyway, so I'll chat with him.13:06
didrocksScottK: is a FFe needed for appmenu-qt? It's only bug fixing13:07
didrocksah, the alt13:07
didrocksyeah, indeed, will take care of that13:07
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ScottKdidrocks: I was thinking of libdbusmenu-qt.  0.9.0 is out and in Debian and we only have 0.8.3.13:14
ScottKI guess ask agateau if we want that too or it that's intended for KDE 4.8?13:15
didrocksScottK: I pushed it already, he asked me to push it yesterday13:15
didrocksit's needed for the new appmenu anyway (2 additional symbols)13:16
ScottKOh.13:16
ScottKWhere was the FFe for this?13:16
ScottKAlso, why not take from Debian?  Is their package different?13:17
didrocksScottK: there was no changelog, I didn't see the feature scanning it (anyway, the symbol isn't called until the appmenu lands)13:17
ScottKOK.13:17
didrocksScottK: the package is different, seems that debian didn't take Riddell's work13:17
didrocks(it has never been merged)13:18
ScottKSeems like he wouldn't have done 0.8.3 -> 0.9.0 without adding features ...13:18
ScottKOK.  Then we should look at merging next cycle.  Thanks for checking.13:18
didrocksScottK: well, the 0.1.2 -> 0.2 bump for appmenu was licence fix only, so I didn't rely on it, sorry for the oversight13:18
didrocksyeah, merging would be nice13:19
didrocks(was just a little bit too late on the cycle to start with that, changing packaging and such)13:19
ScottKAgreed.13:20
shadeslayerhuh wat13:20
* shadeslayer sees new symbols13:20
ScottKdidrocks: A good clue for it needed an FFe would have been (from the 0.8.3 -> 0.9.0 diff):13:23
ScottK-set(dbusmenu_qt_lib_API_VERSION 5)13:23
ScottK+set(dbusmenu_qt_lib_API_VERSION 6)13:23
didrocksScottK: yeah, but I'm so used to the API addition for unity/nux (and some GNOME components) to fix actual bugs that I didn't stopped on that, sorry about it, will take more care next time (the new API isn't used until the appmenu release go in anyway)13:25
didrockswill try to take more care for Qt thing which are more logical, seems with the time, my habits are twisted :)13:25
ScottKdidrocks: Qt FFe is approved.13:30
didrocksScottK: oh great, thanks! if you want to take a look at the appmenu one: bug #73741913:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 737419 in Unity Foundations "FFe: Add support for the show-now-changed signal" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73741913:31
didrocksScottK: I still prefer waiting on Monday for Qt (buildling on the ubuntu-desktop ppa right now), as I won't be online this week-end, I prefer to avoid breaking the world before leaving :)13:31
ScottKdidrocks: I figured Monday would be the P in ASAP.13:31
didrocksScottK: heh, ok :-)13:32
ScottKdidrocks: There's no Ubuntu bug there.  Those are all upstream tasks.13:32
didrocksScottK: argh, seemed launchpad timeouted :/ fixed now13:33
ScottKdidrocks: Done.13:37
didrocksScottK: great, thanks13:37
shadeslayeruh13:42
shadeslayerwhat do i do with these new symbols in kdelibs13:42
Riddellshadeslayer: check if they are ABI breaks13:42
Riddellis rekonq not working with forms known?13:42
shadeslayerRiddell: but its a bug fix release, so shouldn't that be bad?13:43
shadeslayerRiddell: try out newer webkit from my ppa13:43
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental << this one13:43
Riddellshadeslayer: yes if they are ABI breaks that's a release critical bug which you should report to KDE.  if not it's all good13:43
shadeslayerRiddell: and how does one check that if its a ABI break13:44
Riddellah, that's fiddly13:44
Riddellyou have to look at the source code that made the symbols and work it out based on the (often weird) c++ binary compatibility rules13:44
Riddellusually adding symbols is ok, but not always13:45
Riddellusually removing symbols is bad, but not always13:45
Sputor just ask Thiago :)13:47
shadeslayerhaha :D13:48
bambeewhy the hell doesn't pbuilder use /etc/pbuilderrc ? o.O13:59
Riddellshadeslayer: yay, your qtwebkit sorts it14:04
shadeslayer\o/14:04
shadeslayerwe need to get that into the archive after the freeze is over14:04
ScottKshadeslayer: Freeze is over.14:10
shadeslayeroh14:10
ScottKRead /topic.14:10
shadeslayerright, didn't read that14:10
shadeslayerQuintasan: yofel can either of you upload qtwebkit?14:11
shadeslayeri'm heading out for a couple of minutes, bbl14:11
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QuintasanScottK: Do you have any problems with rbelem's new branches?14:45
rbelemheya Quintasan 14:49
Quintasanrbelem: \o14:49
rbelemQuintasan, did you see my latest dent?14:49
Quintasanrbelem: not really, I didn't have time to look at dents today14:50
rbelemQuintasan, i made really nice command in vim to fix the -data-active.install :-)14:51
QuintasanOh, my, really? That's interesting14:52
rbelemQuintasan, s:\(debian/tmp-kde-runtime-active/\)\(.*/\)\(.*\)$:\1\2\3 \2:14:52
rbelem:-D14:52
Quintasanohshi-14:53
Quintasanrbelem: Actually, did you testbuild those packages before commiting?14:54
QuintasanScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/7373814:56
Quintasanrbelem: https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde4libs-active-4.7/+merge/7373914:56
QuintasanI'm not entirely sure what you did there14:56
shadeslayerooh14:56
shadeslayerthere's this thing called c++filt14:56
shadeslayerit de mangles all these symbols14:56
Quintasanrbelem: Please recheckout kdelibs branch and commit those changes you wanted since something strange happened there14:59
bambeeparallel build with pbuilder is totally borked o.O15:00
shadeslayerok ... new symbols look alright15:03
shadeslayeroh oh15:05
shadeslayermaco: belated happy birthday :)15:05
macothanks :)15:06
rbelemQuintasan, i tested build kde-runtime. i did manage to finish the test build for kdelibs, power failure15:13
rbelem*did not15:14
shadeslayeruh15:17
shadeslayerquestion15:17
shadeslayerwhy do have kde-runtime as one binary package but kdebase-runtime-dbg as the debug package?15:17
shadeslayerah nvm15:18
shadeslayerbtw kdebase-runtime-dbg does not depend on kdebase-runtime for some reason15:18
shadeslayeris that intentional?15:18
shadeslayeraha ..transitional package15:19
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime] Rohan Garg * 228 * debian/control Bump kde-sc-dev-latest to 4:4.7.115:27
bambeeQuintasan: around ? could you check and confirm something for me ?15:36
bambeebuild a package with "debuild -j$(getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN 2>/dev/null || echo 1)" and looks how many jobs it uses, even debuild is borked here15:38
bambeeit's just impossible to build kde-workspace o.O15:38
shadeslayerbambee: push the packaging, i'll build it for you15:40
shadeslayerright after runtime15:41
shadeslayers/runtime/baseapps15:44
bambeeactually nothing has really changed... I cannot even know if symbols have changed :'(15:45
transitloggerjussi: btw it appears you sent a test sms to moi ealier today15:46
transitloggeralso I have an algorithm for you spell checking bug15:47
transitloggerin case you moved that report to kde yet :P15:47
shadeslayertransitlogger: the one where krunner crashes when you press the backspace key?15:49
transitloggerno15:49
transitloggera feature reuqest15:49
shadeslayerah ok15:49
Quintasanbambee: looking at it15:49
* transitlogger aint caring about plasmaware15:49
shadeslayernew file : -./usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/dolphin/toolbar.png15:49
Quintasanbambee: Check buildlog for "jobserver"15:51
transitloggershadeslayer: did you card also get locked?15:51
shadeslayerlol15:51
transitloggershadeslayer: did you ask for a replacement card?15:51
transitloggerI hear you need a replacement card if your card was locked15:52
shadeslayerxD15:52
transitloggerbut beware, it takes up to half a year to get the new card15:52
QuintasanWhat the hell is transitlogger talking about?15:52
transitloggerby that time someone will have hacked your account15:52
shadeslayertransitlogger: i did lock my card at DS15:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: questions on the GSoC Mailing List15:52
transitloggershadeslayer: did you request a replacement card then?15:52
shadeslayerabout locked cards and allegations that unicorns don't exsist15:53
shadeslayertransitlogger: nope, i was sane enough to call them and have the issue fixed15:53
ScottKQuintasan: I didn't look yet.  Looking now.15:53
transitloggershadeslayer: what? no! s'impossible!!!!15:53
shadeslayerhaha :P15:53
QuintasanScottK: The libs merge is somehow broken, I presume rbelem will fix it today15:54
transitloggerI did not read that on the list15:54
transitloggershadeslayer: others deserve to know that you can call numbas to have locking fixed, my oh my15:54
transitloggerhad I know, I would not have sued google for withholding monies :S15:54
ScottKQuintasan: The runtime one seems odd too.  Like it starts from an older version of our packages.15:54
shadeslayer^_^15:55
Quintasanrbelem: PING15:55
rbelemQuintasan, pong15:55
shadeslayeraw ffffffuuuuuu15:56
transitloggerso, there is this really stylish person, silver headphones with an orange cord, birght green tshirt and super light blue jeans sort of pants15:56
ScottKtransitlogger: Would you have a look at Bug #832864 - It seems likely there is some confusion between phonon headers and the cmake checks in pyside that make the configure test find phonon in Debian and not in Ubuntu.15:57
ubottuLaunchpad bug 832864 in pyside (Ubuntu Oneiric) "pyside version 1.0.4-1 failed to build in oneiric" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83286415:57
transitloggerto complete the picture the orange cord of course builds the nicest color combo with the green shirt15:57
transitloggerlooks like a unicorn barfed all over him15:57
rbelemScottK, should i bump the pkg version in -runtime?15:57
* transitlogger likes aiports :D15:57
bambeeQuintasan: I don't see "jobserver"15:58
ScottKrbelem: Start with the version that we already uploaded and diff from that with a new version.15:58
bambee:\15:58
transitloggerScottK: I am about to board, so it better be quick15:58
bambeeQuintasan: I am talking about a local parallel job, not through icecc15:58
ScottKtransitlogger: I think the relevant infos are in the bug.15:58
Quintasanbambee: >implying I am using icecc15:58
rbelemScottK, i thought that the version that i appended was not uploaded, thats why i just append15:59
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-baseapps] Rohan Garg * 187 * debian/ (6 files) New upstream release15:59
transitloggerScottK: supposedly the cmake part is broken15:59
Quintasanrbelem: You need to base on kde-runtime branch for example16:00
transitloggerpeople always write bogus cmake stuff16:00
transitloggerit is like qmake really16:00
Quintasankbzr branch kde-runtime16:00
Quintasanmake changes16:00
ScottKOr something changed in phonon that shouldn't have.16:00
Quintasancommit and push somewhere16:00
rbelemoki16:00
shadeslayertransitlogger: btw lunchpad does not want to talk to b.k.o it seems16:01
shadeslayertransitlogger: how does one fix that in lunchpad16:01
transitloggerScottK: nope16:01
transitloggerunless you lot patched my software16:01
Quintasanshadeslayer++16:01
transitloggerwhich you have16:01
transitloggerand you did not send patches upstream16:01
transitloggerI should give you all a spanking for that at some point16:01
transitloggershadeslayer: it better not16:02
transitloggershadeslayer: why would it?16:02
shadeslayertransitlogger: remote bug tracking in ad16:02
transitloggershadeslayer: lunchpad would only break bko16:02
shadeslayers/ad/lunchpad/16:02
Quintasantransitlogger: Why don't you send them upstream yourself?16:02
kubotushadeslayer meant: "transitlogger: remote bug tracking in lunchpad"16:02
transitloggershadeslayer: we do nto do remote bug tracking for 99% of all bugz16:02
transitloggerthy shalt not send bugs upstream16:02
transitloggerthe reporter should16:02
shadeslayertransitlogger: still .. for the remaining 1% we need that feature16:02
transitloggerit has no sense whatsoever to upstream stuff16:02
transitloggeryou are not the person who has a problem16:03
transitloggerhence you are not the person to talk to16:03
transitloggerhence you reporting a bug that is not your bug is rather pointless16:03
shadeslayertransitlogger: ScottK Quintasan and steveire_ had that problem :P16:03
transitlogger+ if a person does not care enough to report the bug to the right party then clearly the bug is not important enough16:03
transitloggershadeslayer: so bug reportery16:04
transitloggerto the lunchpad16:04
shadeslayertransitlogger: already did16:04
transitloggerdear madam or sir, I wish to complain in the storngest possible terms about you eating my time :P16:04
shadeslayerheh16:04
* Quintasan blames transitlogger for all madness here16:04
ScottKtransitlogger: The only phonon patch we have that touches includes is from Debian, so I think that's not it.16:04
ScottKQuintasan: That's a given.16:04
transitloggerScottK: perhaps it was dropped then16:04
shadeslayerhmm16:05
* transitlogger throws netbook after staff so they start boarding already16:05
transitloggeroh16:06
transitloggerit worked16:06
transitloggerwohooo16:06
* transitlogger shall report tomorrow from the paris16:06
shadeslayertransitlogger: going to wave the phonon and kubuntu flags from the Eifel tower?16:07
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Rohan Garg * 10 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release16:25
shadeslayeralright, last package for tonight16:26
bambeeQuintasan: you was right16:26
bambee"warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1.  Add `+' to parent make rule."16:26
bambeeit does make sense now16:26
* bambee asks google16:27
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/okular] Rohan Garg * 11 * debian/changelog Fix release pocket and version16:29
rbelemQuintasan, i'm gettings this error on kdelibs /usr/bin/xmllint: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libncurses.so.5: file too short16:33
rbelemo.O16:33
Quintasanbambee: were right* and I googled for it too but nothing comes up16:34
bambeethe message comes from make itself16:34
rbelemQuintasan, aham! apt-get dist-upgrade Get:1 http://localhost/ubuntu/ oneiric/main libncursesw5 i386 5.9-1ubuntu3 [170 kB]16:39
Quintasander16:39
Quintasanp16:39
yofelevening16:46
yofelbambee: if you find out what's broken you get cookies from me. For me this only happens with oneiric + kde-workspace16:49
bambeehttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/2942465/cmake-and-parallel-building-with-make-jn16:50
bambeeinteresting16:50
bambeeit *might* a cmake problem16:50
bambeemight be *16:50
bambee(not sure yet)16:51
yofelQuintasan: got time to look at opencv?16:52
Quintasanyofel: well, I'm playing Harvest Moon but I can take a look :P16:54
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdepimlibs] Rohan Garg * 140 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release16:55
yofelQuintasan: someone needs to fix up bug 324523 or demote digikam and kipi-plugins to universe if we want 2.0.017:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 324523 in opencv (Ubuntu) "Main inclusion request for OpenCV" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32452317:00
Quintasanyofel: I can't fix it. We probably will have to demote it17:03
QuintasanIt's not like we include it in default install, do we?17:04
yofeldon't think so, although I'm not sure re kipi and dvd17:04
QuintasanWell, I'm not able to fix that one17:04
mgraesslinwhy does Kubuntu 11.10 not follow the upstream default of one desktop?17:16
ScottKDid the default change in 4.7?17:17
mgraesslinyes17:17
mgraesslinthe default is one desktop and the pager hides automatically if there is only one17:17
ScottKWhy?17:17
ScottKPeople seem to like multiple desktops.17:17
mgraesslinbecause desktops are an advanced feature17:17
mgraesslinso the people who need or want desktops can easily change the number17:18
ScottKOK, but the default panel picked up a default activity chooser too.17:18
mgraesslinyes that's true17:18
ScottKThat's an even more advanced feature.17:18
ScottKSo I think it's an inconsistent view.17:18
mgraesslinno, I think activities are easier to understand by inexperienced users17:19
ScottKOK.  Maybe I'm too experienced then.  I couldn't figure out a use for them in my normal workflow.17:19
* mgraesslin neither17:19
ScottKI like multiple activities in situations like the plasma-netbook layout, but I don't see them as an end user feature.17:19
ScottKWe've had multiple desktops ~forever, so I don't know why we'd want to change it.17:20
mgraesslinask the plasma devs - I didn't do the change ;-)17:21
ScottKOK.17:21
mgraesslinbut I understand that new users might find virtual desktops extremely confusing17:21
ScottKBTW, I am reminded I had a question for you ...17:22
ScottKIn 4.7 if I run Kubuntu in a live session on my Dell mini10v there's no effects by default, but after install they are on by default.  Any idea why that might be?17:23
mgraesslinno, but I just noticed that in the livecd (in virtualbox), too17:23
eMyllerhi all17:45
=== eMyller is now known as eMyller_
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eMyllertask manager widget doesn't work properly here17:47
eMyllerkde sc 4.7.00 on natty17:48
eMylleranyone experiencing issues?17:48
yofeldefine doesn't work properly17:57
bambeeyofel: it's definitively a problem with cmake, I think18:21
bambeesee http://www.gnu.org/s/hello/manual/make/Error-Messages.html18:21
bambeethe last warning18:21
yofelI know that page, and since it's cmake that generates the code I would agree18:21
yofelI'm clueless how to fix it though18:22
bambeeI have discussed with david faure (a rocking french guy) and it's not a problem in kde-workspace18:22
ScottKmgraesslin: Would http://paste.debian.net/128209/ be useful in a bug report for you?18:22
bambeeyofel: I have also asked on #cmake18:22
bambeeno answers :\18:22
bambee(also it's friday...)18:22
yofeltrue18:23
bambee(they're probably drunk... who knows :P)18:23
yofelheh18:23
* bambee is totally drunk18:23
mgraesslinScottK: crashes in the driver18:23
bambeewhisky <318:23
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release18:29
ScottKmgraesslin: Thanks.18:30
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/oxygen-icons] Philip Muškovac * 84 * debian/changelog New upstream release18:32
eMylleryofel: weird behaviors18:45
eMyllerempty spaces (ghost tasks?), unresponsive clicks (it doesn't freeze, certain tasks just don't respond)18:45
eMylleri noticed that the smooth tasks widget also suffer the same issues, so i think it might come from "above"18:46
eMyllerbelow, whatever. lol18:46
rbelemScottK, lp:~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde4libs-active-4.7 is ready :-)18:47
ScottKOK.  It'd probably be best to integrate it with the 4.7.1 upload.18:47
ScottKWho's doing that?18:47
yofeleMyller: I think the empty spaces should be fixed in 4.7.1, as for the unresponsive tasks I noticed that only once here18:48
eMylleryofel: is it about libtaskmanager?18:48
yofelwell, the default one, yes18:49
eMylleralso, the tasks widget (the default only) wraps the tasks into two lines even i don't allow it to18:49
eMyllerit's really annoying :\18:50
eMyller* even if18:50
bulldog98is meta-kde finished?18:50
eMyllerif i restart plasma, the problem is solved. temporarily.18:50
yofelbulldog98: it is, see wiki page18:51
bulldog98yofel: ok I took kate18:51
yofeleMyller: can't find anything in the git log about the taks lines, make sure there's a bug for it18:53
yofel*task18:53
yofelbulldog98: k, when you're done, please file a merge request for the bzr changes and mark the package as ppa/merge18:54
eMyllerwill check after work18:54
bulldog98yofel: ok18:54
* eMyller is afraid of bugs.kde.org18:54
yofeleMyller: 4.7.1 is scheduled for release on tuesday if you want to wait for it first18:55
yofeler, thursday18:55
eMylleryofel: would there be a chance for the fix to be included in 4.7.1?18:55
bulldog98eMyller: 4.7.1 is already taged so no18:56
eMyllermeh. :\18:56
yofelonly if it's already fixed in git. There's a bunch for task manager fixes for 4.7.1, so maybe I just overlooked it18:56
yofel*bunch of18:56
yofeltypoday--18:56
eMyllerwoot18:56
eMyllertask manager the widget or the lib?18:57
yofelone of them, I didn't look at the commits that closely18:57
bulldog98yofel: btw what’s the workflow kgetsource, build source, test build binary?18:59
yofelmy workflow: get source, build source package, pbuild it, upload, commit to bzr19:00
yofelbulldog98: the rest of the workflow is on the wiki19:00
yofeldon't forget to bump kde-sc-dev-latest19:01
bulldog98yofel: do you mean that? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/ReleasePackaging19:06
yofelah, not that, that's junk, need to rewrite that someday19:07
yofelbulldog98: I meant the plan on the packaging page19:07
yofelwe don't really have a detailed workflow doc right now19:07
bulldog98ok19:07
bulldog98shadeslayer: what have you done, so that icecc works for you?19:17
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen] Philip Muškovac * 10 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) (log message trimmed)19:33
CIA-89* New upstream release - fix smokegen_load_system_defines.diff - add simplified19:33
CIA-89version of string.h to smoke-dev-tools.install [ Pino Toscano ] * Make19:33
Quintasanyofel: More like "We don't even have a working script for a workflow19:34
yofelQuintasan: rather that everyone has a different workflow so there's hard to make one..19:36
yofel*it's19:36
* yofel is tired...19:36
bulldog98yofel: should I place UNRELEASED into the changelog I want to merge?19:42
yofelyep19:42
bulldog98yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/kate/+merge/7388120:02
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 7 * debian/ (5 files) (log message trimmed)20:08
CIA-89* New upstream release - drop reduced-linking.diff, applied upstream - require20:08
CIA-89smoke-dev-tools >= 4.7.0, and make libsmokeqt4-dev depend on it * Add patch20:08
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokeqt] Philip Muškovac * 8 * debian/changelog fix changelog20:08
yofelbulldog98: see comment20:15
bulldog98yofel: worked in i38620:16
yofelbulldog98: well, it won't make the build fail, or did you get no diff at all?20:17
bulldog98yofel: no changes at all20:19
* yofel scratches head...20:19
bulldog98yofel: where should the diff be located?20:19
yofelbuildlog20:19
yofelbulldog98: see http://paste.kde.org/11748120:20
yofeler, that's junk20:20
yofelsec20:20
bulldog98yofel: sorry got one20:21
bulldog98we need a hook or something to autodetect that20:21
yofelit's easy to find once you know where in the build log you need to look20:23
bulldog98yofel: fixed20:25
yofelbulldog98: can you just rename 'KateDocument::setDocName(QString)' into 'KateDocument::setDocName(QString const&)' whithout causing any breakage?20:31
yofels/rename/change20:31
bulldog98yofel: where?20:31
yofelbulldog98: that's the missing symbol20:31
yofeland the one that's added below it20:32
bulldog98yofel: so I need to rename that in the source code?20:32
yofelbulldog98: no, it was renamed and now the library ABI has changed, read pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html20:32
yofelhttp://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html20:33
bulldog98yofel: so I should delete the missing?20:35
yofelbulldog98: is it *safe* to just remove it? i.e. won't removing it break any application that uses the library without rebuilding the app?20:35
yofelplease find that out first20:36
bulldog98yofel: so I need to rebuild it without the missing line and install it and test some app with libkdeedu?20:36
yofelbulldog98: wait, we're still talking about kate20:37
bulldog98s/libkdeedu/kate/20:37
kubotubulldog98 meant: "yofel: so I need to rebuild it without the missing line and install it and test some app with kate?"20:37
bulldog98yofel: yes20:37
bulldog98yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/libkdeedu/+merge/7388320:37
bulldog98yofel: so I rebuild it without the #MISSING stuff and install libkatepart on my sys?20:38
yofelbulldog98: wait, do you know what happens when you break the library ABI?20:38
bulldog98yofel: no20:38
yofelbulldog98: if a symbol goes missing, and you try to run an application that expects the symbol to be there you'll see it fail with 'missing symbol in ...'20:39
bulldog98yofel: so I need to test kate and kwriter?20:40
yofelbulldog98: well, since katepart seems to be the only thing that uses libkatepartinterfaces4 this isn't that much of an issue right now20:44
bulldog98yofel: so I can simply remove that missing stuff?20:44
yofelbulldog98: probably20:44
yofelbulldog98: how did you update the file btw.?20:45
bulldog98yofel: manually20:45
yofelbulldog98: wrong, read the debian page again20:45
bulldog98yofel: but I saw I can patch it with the build log20:45
yofelbulldog98: yes you can, by using pkgkde-symbolshelper20:46
rbelemQuintasan, ScottK, lp:~rbelem/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7 is ready, but i'm not sure if debian/changelog is ok20:46
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/libkdcraw] Philip Muškovac * 16 * debian/ (changelog control) New upstream release20:55
bulldog98yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/konsole/+merge/7388520:56
yofelbulldog98: about https://code.launchpad.net/~bulldog98/kubuntu-packaging/kate/+merge/73881, how *exactly* did you update the symbols file?20:59
yofelit's still wrong, should look like this: http://paste.kde.org/11751121:00
bulldog98yofel: I’ll make it right now (at least I hope so)21:00
yofelbulldog98: read the debian page again, it's a bit tricky at first21:01
yofelbulldog98: tip, I used:21:01
yofelpkgkde-symbolshelper batchpatch -v 4:4.7.1 /var/cache/pbuilder/oneiric-ninja-amd64/result/kate_4.7.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.build21:01
yofelinside kate-4.7.1/21:01
bulldog98yofel: yes ok21:01
bulldog98yofel: now it should be the right way21:06
bulldog98yofel: somehow pbuilder is doing something wrong if I build i386 on amd64 the build log gets _amd64.build is that normal? 21:10
yofelbulldog98: line 59/60 in the launchpad diff look wrong...21:10
yofelbulldog98: uh yeah, that's normal, I'm not sure where that gets set21:10
bulldog98yofel: kate diff?21:11
yofelbulldog98: yep21:11
bulldog98yofel: have a look at the other merges21:11
yofellater, need to finish something else first.21:12
bulldog98ok21:12
bulldog98yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/680864/21:18
yofelare you trying to patch the file you already patched? I don't think that's possible21:19
yofelI usually only update on amd6421:19
bulldog98yofel: so this is now down with your tip and a fresh symbols file21:25
CIA-89[lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kate] Philip Muškovac * 41 * debian/ (4 files) * New upstream release - update libkatepartinterfaces4.symbols21:41

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