| valorie | that's very disappointing | 00:37 |
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| valorie | I did suspect something was wrong when they didn't hire you, Pendulum | 00:38 |
| valorie | or make charlie-tca full-time a11y | 00:38 |
| valorie | or something | 00:38 |
| Pendulum | valorie: charlie-tca isn't a Canonical employee. TheMuso is and they've contracted work out to API, but that's it for people getting paid to work on a11y for Unity/Ubuntu as far as I know | 01:32 |
| Pendulum | it's slightly more complicated in that I know a lot of the Unity devels who aren't specifically a11y have worked on aspects of it, but AFAIK there is no one being paid to coordinate/work on a11y fulltime | 01:33 |
| TheMuso | One of the biggest problems with unity and a11y IMO is the constantly changing state of unity itself. | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | Unity-2d has been better for the most part, since unity-2d uses QT, and QT a11y is coming along swimmingly. | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | So there is no constantly changing frameworks underlying unity-2d to be affected. | 01:35 |
| TheMuso | However, there are several bugs I filed against unity-2d for a11y issues that have yet to be fixed. | 01:36 |
| valorie | are you working with fregl on those? | 01:36 |
| TheMuso | valorie: They are not QT issues, they are to do with unity-2d itself. | 01:37 |
| valorie | ah | 01:37 |
| TheMuso | Personally, I feel I could focus much more on a11y if I was doing a11y full time, but that is currently not the case. | 01:37 |
| valorie | I wish I had time to be more of an advocate/tester/etc. | 01:37 |
| valorie | it's so important | 01:38 |
| TheMuso | AlanBell: Oneiric has some new functionality in ubiquity that now allows us to launch profiles from the first installer screen. | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | This works, but playing a sound at that screen still appears to be broken, something I need to fix. | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | I also haven't widely announced it, and the orca install test instructions will need to be updated. | 01:39 |
| TheMuso | Beta 2 should have a much better experience. | 01:39 |
| AlanBell | TheMuso: so will it still display access.pcx in gfxboot and expect you to hit a key when you see it? | 07:53 |
| TheMuso | AlanBell: None of that has changed. | 08:33 |
| TheMuso | AlanBell: So I guess long term, we should completely ditch the accessibility options in gfxboot. | 08:33 |
| AlanBell | so with the ubiquity stuff can you just put the disk in, leave it for sufficient time then hit a key to start orca? | 08:34 |
| AlanBell | I don't mind a lack of a beep if it will sit there forever | 08:35 |
| AlanBell | the problem is hitting a key in a small time window with no audio cue | 08:35 |
| === API is now known as Guest88782 | ||
| === Guest88782 is now known as apinheiro | ||
| AlanBell | well my attempts to do the orca install are not going well | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | it wouldn't start ubiquity properly, when selecting the screen reader profile | 18:50 |
| AlanBell | now installing with eyes and will try just getting around the desktop with orca | 18:51 |
| AlanBell | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/c2h40a8 | 22:51 |
| AlanBell | \o/ \o/ | 22:51 |
| Pendulum | :) | 23:02 |
| * AlanBell should really go to bed now | 23:06 | |
| AlanBell | night all o/ | 23:06 |
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