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doctormoHey jono00:03
doctormoOur LoCo meeting, we're having a talk about Canonical. Some people are wondering what's going on at Canonical these days, non technical stuff.00:04
doctormoWhat do you think?00:04
jonodoctormo, what do I think about what?00:06
doctormojono: What stuff is happening at Canonical, things like advertising campaigns, deals with OEMs, interesting other stuff to conquest bug #1.00:08
ubot2`doctormo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug)00:08
jonodoctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that?00:08
jonoor are you asking me to comment on some things?00:08
doctormojono: Yes00:08
jonoerm00:08
jonowhich question was that an answer to00:09
jono?00:09
jono<jono> doctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that?00:09
jono or are you asking me to comment on some things?00:09
doctormoor are you asking me to comment on some things? Yes00:09
jonowell I haven't got time right now, but feel free to send me a bunch of questions and I can follow up via email00:09
doctormojono: No problem, the meeting will be over soon. Post some more interesting stuff to your blog. :-)00:10
jonook00:10
jonogotta run, laters!00:10
doctormolaters00:12
jcastrohey00:50
jcastropopey: or AlanBell00:50
jcastroor I guess doctormo too, since you're english00:50
doctormojcastro: Ello, ello, what's awl this then.00:50
jcastroproper00:51
jcastroso hey are you into dr. who?00:51
mhall119who?01:51
akgranerjcastro, you still around?02:42
akgranerI replied to your email - once the official countdown banners are announced we'll add one to the fridge - if you all want we can pull the natty one until the official ones have been released02:43
dpmgood morning all06:45
dpmAlanBell, o/06:45
dpmjust swapped your UADW session so that is on Monday, as discussed yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable06:46
dholbachgood morning07:26
AlanBellgreat, thanks dpm07:46
dpmAlanBell, no worries, thank you for running the session :)07:50
dpmhey dholbach07:51
dholbachhola dpm07:51
nigelbMornign folks!08:17
huatsmorning !08:19
kim0Morning all08:20
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nigelbwow, this is awesome. http://nightly.mozilla.org/10:08
nigelbI vote we have something like that for our beta pages10:08
czajkowskiALOHA!10:17
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mhall119morning14:05
nigelbMorning!14:06
nigelbmhall119: congrats on getting that release out.14:06
mhall119nigelb: thanks14:07
cjohnstonjamming in Orlando14:08
nigelbOOH RIGHT.14:08
nigelbI'll be joining you folks14:08
cjohnstonyou gonna work on our projects?14:10
cjohnstonjcastro: there is an empty seat at the jam table for you14:10
jcastroMy wife is at work.14:11
nigelbcjohnston: I'm gonna work on summit.14:11
jcastroand she has the car14:11
jcastrowait, I did tell you this right?14:11
nigelbYeah :P14:11
nigelbI remember.14:11
nigelbcjohnston: did you guys already start?14:12
cjohnstonya14:12
mhall119jcastro: are you remote jamming with us today?14:15
jcastromhall119: where are you guys at?14:16
mhall119#ubuntu-website14:16
cjohnston/14/1514:19
cjohnston514:19
cjohnstonuggh14:19
nigelb414:19
Picils14:19
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dholbachhey jono14:56
jonohowdy dholbach14:56
jonoabout set for the call?14:56
dholbachjono, yep14:57
dholbachjono, I started a hangout15:00
jonodholbach, lets do skype15:00
czajkowskiAloha folks15:01
dholbachjono, ok15:01
dholbachjono, just call when you're ready15:01
czajkowskitis friday :) weekend of UGJ :)15:01
dholbachyooohoo! :)15:01
paultagdoctormo: howdy doodie15:02
mhall119it's friday, friday, gotta Ubuntu Jam on friday15:02
cjohnstonczajkowski: we've been jamming for like 2 hours15:02
czajkowskicjohnston: sweet15:02
paultagI'm at work jamming to radiohead15:02
czajkowskiwas on a train jyself, then grocery shopping15:02
paultagsadly, not an ubuntu jam :(15:02
mhall119course, we haven't actually been working yet15:02
czajkowskibut will do some tomorrow15:02
mhall119just fixing cjohnston's home network15:02
czajkowskiI need to finish the doc I was working on before I left15:03
jcastromhall119: if we had it here I have a nice cache of the archive ....15:06
jcastroand other amenities15:06
mhall119jcastro: what archives?15:07
jcastrothe ubuntu one15:07
jcastroI have a nice PXE installer set up too. The ideal location for your next Jam Party.15:08
* jcastro sounds like a commercial15:08
nigelbmhall119: THERE'S STILL TIME. DRIVE TO jcastro'S PLACE!15:09
mhall119jcastro: we're hacking on websites here15:10
mhall119nigelb: that's 2 hours away, so no15:10
jcastroI thought it was closer to 3.5 hours15:10
nigelbdepends on how long it takes to get cjohnston's network up.15:10
jcastroI forgot to mention I have like 22mbit business class internets15:10
nigelbjcastro: cjohnston drives the fire truck...15:10
nigelbtraffic clears for him15:11
mhall119jcastro: oh right, i'm thinking statik is 2 hours away15:11
jcastrojono: kim0: call in 5?15:54
kim0I'm here15:55
jonojcastro, kim0 yup15:55
jcastrojono: hey so g+ now works now that the multiarch thing is sorted15:55
jonojcastro, kim0 bear with me, need to wrap something real quick before our call15:58
jonojcastro, kim0 lets do skypew16:06
jonojcastro, kim0 lets do skype16:06
jcastrookey16:06
jcastrough16:06
jcastroI have to reinstall it16:06
jcastrosec, there's some problem with it in beta16:06
jcastrough, skype is uninstallable for me16:08
jonook lets try G+16:09
jonojcastro, you on as Jill?16:10
nigelbheh16:10
jcastrojono: yeah, just call that account16:10
czajkowskijcastro: you running OO ?16:18
jcastroyeah16:20
czajkowskiall running smoothly16:21
czajkowskisetting off an upgrade before I head out16:21
jonoczajkowski, working well for me16:22
czajkowskijono: coolio,16:22
czajkowskihopefully come back to a nice working OO lappy16:22
nigelbjcastro: do you use the x220?16:22
nigelbs/use/own16:22
jcastroyeah16:24
jcastroworking fine on X22016:24
nigelbShould. Resist. Buying.16:25
czajkowskikicking off now :)16:25
czajkowskion Cypher my tosh16:25
czajkowski not the mini 9 just yet though16:25
paultagmini 9 rulez16:25
czajkowskipaultag: yup, but it runs really well under natty16:26
paultagI wouldn't know :)16:26
czajkowskiand I also need to buy more space in it tbh16:26
paultagthat's my (only) debian machine16:26
czajkowskiit's just easy to throw in handbag when hopping on a plane16:26
czajkowskihmm16:26
czajkowskiseems it's having a problem with my mirror16:26
paultagczajkowski: yar, it fits in the small bit of my backpack - I got the double size battery, it lasts ~6 hoursish16:27
paultagif I'm not doing something nuts16:27
czajkowskinods16:27
czajkowskiI used to get 3.5hr outta the batter16:27
paultagyar, that was about right16:27
czajkowskibut now only about an hr or so16:27
paultagczajkowski: yeah, there was a kernel issue that caused that, you know16:27
paultagczajkowski: you might be able to revert it with a magic patch16:27
czajkowskioh16:28
czajkowskihmm16:28
czajkowskithought it was because I bought it back in 0816:28
paultagyeah some idiot screwed something up last I checked16:28
paultagin like 2.6.someodd later16:28
paultag2.6.3816:28
czajkowskihow about not calling the person that :) these things happen16:28
paultagubuntu 11.0416:28
paultagczajkowski: from this page (because of an upstream linux isssue) - Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat gets over two hours more battery life than Natty Narwhal16:29
paultagczajkowski: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTU2MA16:29
czajkowskihmm16:30
czajkowskilocolint is causing my upgrade to stop16:30
czajkowskias is the patch to stop my machine from randomly restarting16:30
czajkowskibugger16:30
paultagczajkowski: wait, what?16:30
paultagczajkowski: locolint? Oh, is it because of a dep on 2.6?16:31
paultagif that's it, I'll fix that later on tonight, but yeah, apt-get purge that for now16:31
paultagactually, speaking of purging, I need to eat16:32
paultagI'll ttyl, lunch time!16:32
dholbachalright my friends - I call it a day - have a great WE everyone!16:38
* dholbach hugs you all16:38
nigelbg'nite dholbach16:40
czajkowskidholbach: bye16:41
jonoczajkowski, you have time for a quick call?16:43
czajkowskiskype ?16:44
jonoczajkowski, yes please16:44
czajkowskigimmie 5 need to find machine16:44
jononp16:44
czajkowskiwhen you sign  in16:44
czajkowskiyou'll knw16:44
jonoczajkowski, ready when you are16:46
jonodpm, still alive? lol16:48
dpmheya jono, at the airport now, going back home :)16:55
jonodpm, good week?17:04
dpmjono, yeah, got quite a bit done and everything on track :)17:04
jononice!17:07
jcastrohttp://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/17:36
jcastropaultag: upboat, tell a friend17:36
paultagjcastro: msg a mod and verify the post17:36
paultagjcastro: then you can get it confirmed17:37
jcastroalready on it yo17:37
paultagw0rd17:37
jcastrojust need your upboat17:37
paultagjcastro: 'twas already done17:37
jcastrojono: can you tweet this pls: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/17:39
jonojcastro, done17:40
AlanBellso you need a reddit account to ask questions?17:45
paultaghey jcastro / jono : do you know who was doing the Google Summer of Code stuff?17:48
jcastrono clue17:48
jcastroAlanBell: yeah17:48
paultagjcastro: I kinda need it - is there any way you can find out?17:49
jcastrono clue17:49
jcastroafaik we haven't done gsoc stuff in a long time17:49
paultagjcastro: we need an approved org that might be able to take fluxbox in to file the PO for the summer work under17:49
jcastromaybe jono knows17:49
paultagjcastro: yeah, sure, but since we don't have some things, we were told to find an org that might act on our behalf17:49
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jcastroAlanBell: nice question!18:02
AlanBellapparently I have had a reddit account for 5 years18:02
jcastroheh18:02
AlanBellcan't say I am impressed with it as a platform for this, but I guess there are people who use reddit and don't know about Ubuntu who might get involved18:04
paultagAlanBell: the average redditor is a college aged nerd who's majoring in CS at a private university18:05
paultagAlanBell: who enjoys dick jokes18:05
paultagAlanBell: the ubuntu usage on reddit is 4% of the userbase18:05
paultagnot bad for a site that's in the top percect of sites hit on the internet18:06
jcastroI think reddit is perfect for this18:06
jcastrothe humor-style is awesome18:06
AlanBellyou have to keep refreshing the page and it won't allow more than one comment every 10 minutes18:07
paultagAlanBell: if you have a short history18:07
jcastrothe reddit code is oss btw.18:07
paultagexcept for spam detection18:08
jonopaultag, at Google?18:10
AlanBellwe are due a new release name from sabdfl, the last .10 announcement was on 17th August18:14
AlanBell.04 announcement I mean18:14
jcastroyeah I was just wondering that myself18:15
AlanBellperfect penguin has to be high up the list18:19
paultagjcastro: no, @ canonical / ubuntu (whoever)18:19
paultagerm jono *18:19
paultagsorry jcastro18:19
jcastroAlanBell: nah, too obvious18:27
jcastroalso, naming anything "perfect" would be a bad idea18:27
AlanBellwell it is an LTS18:28
jcastroI am hoping for "peregrine" for the animal18:29
jcastroit's the perfect hunter18:29
jcastrothe fastest thing in the sky18:29
AlanBellwell the orca install of B2 is a complete and utter failure18:31
jcastroAlanBell: do you know the a11y guy? he's on #ayatana sometimes18:32
jcastroit's the guy from imendo18:32
AlanBellLuke?18:32
AlanBellthemuso?18:32
jcastrohe does alot of it but there's like another dedicate guy18:32
jcastronot luke18:32
jcastroone sec, let me look him up18:32
jcastrohttps://launchpad.net/~apinheiro18:33
jcastroah sorry, that should have been igalia not imendo18:33
AlanBellAPI from gnome a11y works for Canonical?18:37
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jcastroOH MAN.19:10
jcastroGuess what I just remembered19:10
jcastroMonday is a holiday! \o/19:10
mhall119yup19:12
jcastrojono: hey did the ubuntu tweak guy ever respond back?19:32
jcastroseems like that whole thing fizzled19:32
jonojcastro, I haven't heard from him for a while19:33
jcastroI posted to the list but got nothing but crickets19:33
* AlanBell is finding B2 too crashy to test19:34
jcastrowhich part is crashy?19:36
AlanBellfresh clean install and the first thing it does is pop up that it detected a system problem19:36
AlanBellthen the global menus flash on and off every second19:36
jcastrooh, with the first one that always happens to me19:38
jcastroand then I get sick of it and turn off apport some days19:38
AlanBellthe bottom row of expanded categories doesn't display so lenses are screwed19:38
AlanBellglobal menu seems to have given up crashing now and decided to be global19:38
jcastrooh hey19:39
jcastrodid you upgrade today?19:39
AlanBellbut alt+f doesn't let me navigate the file menu19:39
jcastrothere was a unity update19:39
AlanBellclean install of the B2 iso19:39
AlanBellbut I will update19:39
AlanBellglobal menu doesn't actually appear to be a menu that is navigable19:40
AlanBellso global menus can't be used with the keyboard /o\19:42
akgranerAlanBell, I updated and had to run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^' before I rebooted   -  I still got the detected a system problem error and filed that bug but other stuff seems to be working22:42
AlanBellI have it running reasonably well in virtualbox22:52
AlanBellit seems more crashy with orca running, which would turn on the at-spi2 stuff22:52
jonomhall119, cjohnston would you mind adding the new feeds on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds ?22:53
akgranerjcastro, someone should tell the people in London that - I have calls all morning on Monday :-/ (ok so I completely forgot it was a holiday so I guess that's my fault)23:01
* AlanBell agrees, Monday should be a holiday23:04
mhall119jono: who's supposed to be decided what gets added and what doesn't?23:36
jonomhall119, if they are an approved loco and it looks like the feed has loco content then it is a +123:36
mhall119the wiki isn't write-restricted, so anybody can add their feed to that list23:36
jonothat's all23:36
jonoyeah, anyone can add, just a cursory check to see if they are approved and are posting loco content23:36
mhall119are there any loco-council people online?23:37
paultagmhall119: yeah23:37
paultagmhall119: next time a ping will get a faster response :)23:37
mhall119paultag: hey, have you tried getting to the loco-directory's admin to add feeds?23:37
mhall119paultag: ping23:38
mhall119paultag: ping23:38
mhall119paultag: ping23:38
mhall119you said faster23:38
paultagmhall119: no, would you like me to try? I hit it unauth'd at work and it came up with the django menu23:38
mhall119paultag: you'll have to log in with sso before going to /admin/23:38
paultagmhall119: Aye, that's what I said23:38
paultag:)23:38
mhall119so are you trying again?23:39
paultagmhall119: I asked if you'd like me to try :)23:39
paultagmhall119: shall I?23:39
paultagmhall119: just did, it works :)23:40
mhall119yes please23:40
mhall119paultag: would you be so kind as to add feeds from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds that meet the criteria jono mentioned?23:40
paultagmhall119: I'm busy now, but I'll test one now23:40
paultagmhall119: do you guys have rights?23:40
paultagmhall119: just added ubuntu-uk OBO AlanBell23:42
paultagmhall119: it went through23:42
jonomany thanks paultag23:42
paultagjono: sure thing23:43
paultagmhall119: I added a processed column on the table. I'll work through it when I'm not programming23:44
mhall119paultag: cjohnston and I have permission, yes, but I'd prefer that the loco-council make the decisions that are based on merit23:45
mhall119thanks paultag23:46
paultagmhall119: sure. All the feeds on there look good, except for Sergio Meneses23:46
paultagbut that's just by URL and because I don't know him23:47
paultagso I'll just have to look @ content and who he is23:47
paultagbut I'm sure it's fine23:47

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