[00:03] Hey jono [00:04] Our LoCo meeting, we're having a talk about Canonical. Some people are wondering what's going on at Canonical these days, non technical stuff. [00:04] What do you think? [00:06] doctormo, what do I think about what? [00:08] jono: What stuff is happening at Canonical, things like advertising campaigns, deals with OEMs, interesting other stuff to conquest bug #1. [00:08] doctormo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 (Not reporting large bug) [00:08] doctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that? [00:08] or are you asking me to comment on some things? [00:08] jono: Yes [00:08] erm [00:09] which question was that an answer to [00:09] ? [00:09] doctormo, I don't understand what you asking what I think about though - do you mean is it good that the team are discussing that? [00:09] or are you asking me to comment on some things? [00:09] or are you asking me to comment on some things? Yes [00:09] well I haven't got time right now, but feel free to send me a bunch of questions and I can follow up via email [00:10] jono: No problem, the meeting will be over soon. Post some more interesting stuff to your blog. :-) [00:10] ok [00:10] gotta run, laters! [00:12] laters [00:50] hey [00:50] popey: or AlanBell [00:50] or I guess doctormo too, since you're english [00:50] jcastro: Ello, ello, what's awl this then. [00:51] proper [00:51] so hey are you into dr. who? [01:51] who? [02:42] jcastro, you still around? [02:43] I replied to your email - once the official countdown banners are announced we'll add one to the fridge - if you all want we can pull the natty one until the official ones have been released [06:45] good morning all [06:45] AlanBell, o/ [06:46] just swapped your UADW session so that is on Monday, as discussed yesterday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek/Timetable [07:26] good morning [07:46] great, thanks dpm [07:50] AlanBell, no worries, thank you for running the session :) [07:51] hey dholbach [07:51] hola dpm [08:17] Mornign folks! [08:19] morning ! [08:20] Morning all === ara_ is now known as ara [10:08] wow, this is awesome. http://nightly.mozilla.org/ [10:08] I vote we have something like that for our beta pages [10:17] ALOHA! === daker_ is now known as daker [14:05] morning [14:06] Morning! [14:06] mhall119: congrats on getting that release out. [14:07] nigelb: thanks [14:08] jamming in Orlando [14:08] OOH RIGHT. [14:08] I'll be joining you folks [14:10] you gonna work on our projects? [14:10] jcastro: there is an empty seat at the jam table for you [14:11] My wife is at work. [14:11] cjohnston: I'm gonna work on summit. [14:11] and she has the car [14:11] wait, I did tell you this right? [14:11] Yeah :P [14:11] I remember. [14:12] cjohnston: did you guys already start? [14:12] ya [14:15] jcastro: are you remote jamming with us today? [14:16] mhall119: where are you guys at? [14:16] #ubuntu-website [14:19] /14/15 [14:19] 5 [14:19] uggh [14:19] 4 [14:19] ls === salgado_ is now known as salgado [14:56] hey jono [14:56] howdy dholbach [14:56] about set for the call? [14:57] jono, yep [15:00] jono, I started a hangout [15:00] dholbach, lets do skype [15:01] Aloha folks [15:01] jono, ok [15:01] jono, just call when you're ready [15:01] tis friday :) weekend of UGJ :) [15:01] yooohoo! :) [15:02] doctormo: howdy doodie [15:02] it's friday, friday, gotta Ubuntu Jam on friday [15:02] czajkowski: we've been jamming for like 2 hours [15:02] cjohnston: sweet [15:02] I'm at work jamming to radiohead [15:02] was on a train jyself, then grocery shopping [15:02] sadly, not an ubuntu jam :( [15:02] course, we haven't actually been working yet [15:02] but will do some tomorrow [15:02] just fixing cjohnston's home network [15:03] I need to finish the doc I was working on before I left [15:06] mhall119: if we had it here I have a nice cache of the archive .... [15:06] and other amenities [15:07] jcastro: what archives? [15:07] the ubuntu one [15:08] I have a nice PXE installer set up too. The ideal location for your next Jam Party. [15:08] * jcastro sounds like a commercial [15:09] mhall119: THERE'S STILL TIME. DRIVE TO jcastro'S PLACE! [15:10] jcastro: we're hacking on websites here [15:10] nigelb: that's 2 hours away, so no [15:10] I thought it was closer to 3.5 hours [15:10] depends on how long it takes to get cjohnston's network up. [15:10] I forgot to mention I have like 22mbit business class internets [15:10] jcastro: cjohnston drives the fire truck... [15:11] traffic clears for him [15:11] jcastro: oh right, i'm thinking statik is 2 hours away [15:54] jono: kim0: call in 5? [15:55] I'm here [15:55] jcastro, kim0 yup [15:55] jono: hey so g+ now works now that the multiarch thing is sorted [15:58] jcastro, kim0 bear with me, need to wrap something real quick before our call [16:06] jcastro, kim0 lets do skypew [16:06] jcastro, kim0 lets do skype [16:06] okey [16:06] ugh [16:06] I have to reinstall it [16:06] sec, there's some problem with it in beta [16:08] ugh, skype is uninstallable for me [16:09] ok lets try G+ [16:10] jcastro, you on as Jill? [16:10] heh [16:10] jono: yeah, just call that account [16:18] jcastro: you running OO ? [16:20] yeah [16:21] all running smoothly [16:21] setting off an upgrade before I head out [16:22] czajkowski, working well for me [16:22] jono: coolio, [16:22] hopefully come back to a nice working OO lappy [16:22] jcastro: do you use the x220? [16:22] s/use/own [16:24] yeah [16:24] working fine on X220 [16:25] Should. Resist. Buying. [16:25] kicking off now :) [16:25] on Cypher my tosh [16:25] not the mini 9 just yet though [16:25] mini 9 rulez [16:26] paultag: yup, but it runs really well under natty [16:26] I wouldn't know :) [16:26] and I also need to buy more space in it tbh [16:26] that's my (only) debian machine [16:26] it's just easy to throw in handbag when hopping on a plane [16:26] hmm [16:26] seems it's having a problem with my mirror [16:27] czajkowski: yar, it fits in the small bit of my backpack - I got the double size battery, it lasts ~6 hoursish [16:27] if I'm not doing something nuts [16:27] nods [16:27] I used to get 3.5hr outta the batter [16:27] yar, that was about right [16:27] but now only about an hr or so [16:27] czajkowski: yeah, there was a kernel issue that caused that, you know [16:27] czajkowski: you might be able to revert it with a magic patch [16:28] oh [16:28] hmm [16:28] thought it was because I bought it back in 08 [16:28] yeah some idiot screwed something up last I checked [16:28] in like 2.6.someodd later [16:28] 2.6.38 [16:28] how about not calling the person that :) these things happen [16:28] ubuntu 11.04 [16:29] czajkowski: from this page (because of an upstream linux isssue) - Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat gets over two hours more battery life than Natty Narwhal [16:29] czajkowski: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTU2MA [16:30] hmm [16:30] locolint is causing my upgrade to stop [16:30] as is the patch to stop my machine from randomly restarting [16:30] bugger [16:30] czajkowski: wait, what? [16:31] czajkowski: locolint? Oh, is it because of a dep on 2.6? [16:31] if that's it, I'll fix that later on tonight, but yeah, apt-get purge that for now [16:32] actually, speaking of purging, I need to eat [16:32] I'll ttyl, lunch time! [16:38] alright my friends - I call it a day - have a great WE everyone! [16:38] * dholbach hugs you all [16:40] g'nite dholbach [16:41] dholbach: bye [16:43] czajkowski, you have time for a quick call? [16:44] skype ? [16:44] czajkowski, yes please [16:44] gimmie 5 need to find machine [16:44] np [16:44] when you sign in [16:44] you'll knw [16:46] czajkowski, ready when you are [16:48] dpm, still alive? lol [16:55] heya jono, at the airport now, going back home :) [17:04] dpm, good week? [17:04] jono, yeah, got quite a bit done and everything on track :) [17:07] nice! [17:36] http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/ [17:36] paultag: upboat, tell a friend [17:36] jcastro: msg a mod and verify the post [17:37] jcastro: then you can get it confirmed [17:37] already on it yo [17:37] w0rd [17:37] just need your upboat [17:37] jcastro: 'twas already done [17:39] jono: can you tweet this pls: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/ [17:40] jcastro, done [17:45] so you need a reddit account to ask questions? [17:48] hey jcastro / jono : do you know who was doing the Google Summer of Code stuff? [17:48] no clue [17:48] AlanBell: yeah [17:49] jcastro: I kinda need it - is there any way you can find out? [17:49] no clue [17:49] afaik we haven't done gsoc stuff in a long time [17:49] jcastro: we need an approved org that might be able to take fluxbox in to file the PO for the summer work under [17:49] maybe jono knows [17:49] jcastro: yeah, sure, but since we don't have some things, we were told to find an org that might act on our behalf === salgado_ is now known as salgado [18:02] AlanBell: nice question! [18:02] apparently I have had a reddit account for 5 years [18:02] heh [18:04] can't say I am impressed with it as a platform for this, but I guess there are people who use reddit and don't know about Ubuntu who might get involved [18:05] AlanBell: the average redditor is a college aged nerd who's majoring in CS at a private university [18:05] AlanBell: who enjoys dick jokes [18:05] AlanBell: the ubuntu usage on reddit is 4% of the userbase [18:06] not bad for a site that's in the top percect of sites hit on the internet [18:06] I think reddit is perfect for this [18:06] the humor-style is awesome [18:07] you have to keep refreshing the page and it won't allow more than one comment every 10 minutes [18:07] AlanBell: if you have a short history [18:07] the reddit code is oss btw. [18:08] except for spam detection [18:10] paultag, at Google? [18:14] we are due a new release name from sabdfl, the last .10 announcement was on 17th August [18:14] .04 announcement I mean [18:15] yeah I was just wondering that myself [18:19] perfect penguin has to be high up the list [18:19] jcastro: no, @ canonical / ubuntu (whoever) [18:19] erm jono * [18:19] sorry jcastro [18:27] AlanBell: nah, too obvious [18:27] also, naming anything "perfect" would be a bad idea [18:28] well it is an LTS [18:29] I am hoping for "peregrine" for the animal [18:29] it's the perfect hunter [18:29] the fastest thing in the sky [18:31] well the orca install of B2 is a complete and utter failure [18:32] AlanBell: do you know the a11y guy? he's on #ayatana sometimes [18:32] it's the guy from imendo [18:32] Luke? [18:32] themuso? [18:32] he does alot of it but there's like another dedicate guy [18:32] not luke [18:32] one sec, let me look him up [18:33] https://launchpad.net/~apinheiro [18:33] ah sorry, that should have been igalia not imendo [18:37] API from gnome a11y works for Canonical? === daker is now known as daker_ [19:10] OH MAN. [19:10] Guess what I just remembered [19:10] Monday is a holiday! \o/ [19:12] yup [19:32] jono: hey did the ubuntu tweak guy ever respond back? [19:32] seems like that whole thing fizzled [19:33] jcastro, I haven't heard from him for a while [19:33] I posted to the list but got nothing but crickets [19:34] * AlanBell is finding B2 too crashy to test [19:36] which part is crashy? [19:36] fresh clean install and the first thing it does is pop up that it detected a system problem [19:36] then the global menus flash on and off every second [19:38] oh, with the first one that always happens to me [19:38] and then I get sick of it and turn off apport some days [19:38] the bottom row of expanded categories doesn't display so lenses are screwed [19:38] global menu seems to have given up crashing now and decided to be global [19:39] oh hey [19:39] did you upgrade today? [19:39] but alt+f doesn't let me navigate the file menu [19:39] there was a unity update [19:39] clean install of the B2 iso [19:39] but I will update [19:40] global menu doesn't actually appear to be a menu that is navigable [19:42] so global menus can't be used with the keyboard /o\ [22:42] AlanBell, I updated and had to run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^' before I rebooted - I still got the detected a system problem error and filed that bug but other stuff seems to be working [22:52] I have it running reasonably well in virtualbox [22:52] it seems more crashy with orca running, which would turn on the at-spi2 stuff [22:53] mhall119, cjohnston would you mind adding the new feeds on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds ? [23:01] jcastro, someone should tell the people in London that - I have calls all morning on Monday :-/ (ok so I completely forgot it was a holiday so I guess that's my fault) [23:04] * AlanBell agrees, Monday should be a holiday [23:36] jono: who's supposed to be decided what gets added and what doesn't? [23:36] mhall119, if they are an approved loco and it looks like the feed has loco content then it is a +1 [23:36] the wiki isn't write-restricted, so anybody can add their feed to that list [23:36] that's all [23:36] yeah, anyone can add, just a cursory check to see if they are approved and are posting loco content [23:37] are there any loco-council people online? [23:37] mhall119: yeah [23:37] mhall119: next time a ping will get a faster response :) [23:37] paultag: hey, have you tried getting to the loco-directory's admin to add feeds? [23:38] paultag: ping [23:38] paultag: ping [23:38] paultag: ping [23:38] you said faster [23:38] mhall119: no, would you like me to try? I hit it unauth'd at work and it came up with the django menu [23:38] paultag: you'll have to log in with sso before going to /admin/ [23:38] mhall119: Aye, that's what I said [23:38] :) [23:39] so are you trying again? [23:39] mhall119: I asked if you'd like me to try :) [23:39] mhall119: shall I? [23:40] mhall119: just did, it works :) [23:40] yes please [23:40] paultag: would you be so kind as to add feeds from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoPortalFeeds that meet the criteria jono mentioned? [23:40] mhall119: I'm busy now, but I'll test one now [23:40] mhall119: do you guys have rights? [23:42] mhall119: just added ubuntu-uk OBO AlanBell [23:42] mhall119: it went through [23:42] many thanks paultag [23:43] jono: sure thing [23:44] mhall119: I added a processed column on the table. I'll work through it when I'm not programming [23:45] paultag: cjohnston and I have permission, yes, but I'd prefer that the loco-council make the decisions that are based on merit [23:46] thanks paultag [23:46] mhall119: sure. All the feeds on there look good, except for Sergio Meneses [23:47] but that's just by URL and because I don't know him [23:47] so I'll just have to look @ content and who he is [23:47] but I'm sure it's fine